AKU2 (Server Sync) vs BB Connect - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

I know, this is probably a n00b question.
I have downgraded my phone for BB Connect and actually gotten it to work against my work's BES. However, the ROM is UK and has issues when I want to go online for web browsing (you must suspend BB Connect first). Beyond that, it seemed ok. I wasn't a big fan of the ROM and I guess it has stability issues.
I upgraded to an AKU2 rom and I am running it. In the server sync option in ActiveSync, it offers an option to sync to my Webmail at my work. It seems to work pretty well.
I have an unlimited data plan with TMobile, so I am not worried about data transfer amounts.
Beyond that, what are the real differences between the two methods of push mail?

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Strange problem when upgrading Blueangel

1.40.00 with radio 1.12.00 (This was actually whay my device was shipped with. I chose the wrong version when downgrading from wm5.
Anyway, my problem is that with old version of 1.22 I was able to use the internet using t-mobiles proxy settings of 216.155.165.50 port 8080. I made the exact same changes to my settings in the upgraded OS but I cannot browse anywhere. The only thing I can do is use AIM on port 25 but want to be able to access the internet.
Any idea on what's going on? Because I don't want to downgrade again because I want to keep Media player 10 and have mp3 ringtones.
phone support!
Hi, I just phoned support (which is 2828 for t-mobile-Business customers don't know whats yours). And they just gave me some settings I had to make (including atwo letter password) and it worked out fine (sorry Ive not got my blueangel here by now, cause its in the IT-Dept for setup of "messaging and security services" for pushmail with Exchange 2003SP2 - so I can not tell you the settings from my mda and I also have not memorized them in a way to tell them from mind).
Actually I did NOT tell the support that I flashed anything, but told them that my settings got lost.
So I'm now using Ivans ROM with some additions from TuMa1.4 and still have GPRS-Internet-Connection. The Internetconnection through Active-Synch (for e.g. AvantGo) works as well (but the latter did also without asking support)
I have upgraded my active synch to the 4.2 beta and even that works better than ever.
So I can just recommend "ask support"
I tried asking support. As usual, instead they just said it cannot be done and that I would have to upgrade to the 29.99 package which I am definitely not doing. I really need to find those setting you received.
Do you need to use the proxy on T-Mobile? If you are getting AIM through then you have connectivity to the net. The only thing holding you back would be if they blocked port 80 outbound and forced you through a proxy. My Orange GPRS doesn't need one.
Have you checked the "programs connect to the internet / work using:" settings? AIM probably ignores them, so that might be an issue.

Cingular ROM that Allows for Blackberry Use

With all of the concerns over electronic devices and air travel, I'm starting to consider a blackberry device. However, I love my Cingular 8125. I've read in other forums that it's feasible to get blackberry software to run on a Wizard. It would be great if a ROM could be developed for Cingular that allows for the use of Blackberry software.
Still no way to run Blackberry on an 8125 - But here's a question - Are you already getting email on your 8125 (e.g., with Direct Push)? If so, how would having a Blackberry client help??
I need the blackberry for work. Otherwise, I would use the push e-mail solutions that exist out there.
There is a separate post on this (Blackberry Connect on Wizard).
It should work now (both AKU1 and AKU 2 roms)
I was able to install the Vodaphone Blackberry software using my existing Cingular ROM. I had failed before using the T-Mobile Blackberry software. Now all I have to do is get it configured to work. One step at a time.
If you install the proper rom and BB Connect client, you can get the BB Connect to work on the 8125, but not using Cingular as a carrier, only T-Mobile since supposedly the gateway is hard-coded in the client to point to T-Mobile.
-Keith
You do not have to change to T-Mo. BB connect on 8125 should work with Cingular network. I just installed BB Connect 2.1.2.16 onto my 8125 with 2.17 ROM, simply put official Cingular SIM with unlimited BB plan, and it immediately started receiving BB mails. I only tried BIS but not BES, though.
I'm still waiting to get my e-mail account set up on our corporate blackberry system to try this out on my 8125. All of the preliminary installation and setup work seems to have worked so far, but until I get this turned on I won't be able to validate this. The reason that I originally posted this was that I couldn't even get the software to install when I tried the T-mobile version. After checking out the blackberry message on the Wizard forum, I found the link to the Vodaphone software and it installed the first time.
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i have a stock 8125 rom wise besides the newest cingular released update, and i use the push email form my works exchange server and its 10xs faster than my bb so i sold my berry and im using this but my bb addy email i cant get so i was looking into getting bbconnect werking i installed it fine got a pin associated with my device synced with windows mobile desktop bb thing but the network doesnt become avail i always get blocked radio in use..one day somone will figure it out.....but the push got my attn on the 2125 and i sold that and got the 8125 and its been much better than my berry, u cant stream howard stern on your bt hedset while emailing and surfing on a berry well u can surf and email but no stern and no windows, im calling the new rom for wm0 the bb killer if u can use exchange email then your set, i get me emails on my devie b4 my work computer..its great
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seankk said:
i have a stock 8125 rom wise besides the newest cingular released update, and i use the push email form my works exchange server and its 10xs faster than my bb so i sold my berry and im using this but my bb addy email i cant get so i was looking into getting bbconnect werking i installed it fine got a pin associated with my device synced with windows mobile desktop bb thing but the network doesnt become avail i always get blocked radio in use..one day somone will figure it out.....but the push got my attn on the 2125 and i sold that and got the 8125 and its been much better than my berry, u cant stream howard stern on your bt hedset while emailing and surfing on a berry well u can surf and email but no stern and no windows, im calling the new rom for wm0 the bb killer if u can use exchange email then your set, i get me emails on my devie b4 my work computer..its great
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Man you talk fast in one sentence! Scared to death if you get that HS live streaming to work!!!
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Thanks in advance for any help.
Sean

AT&T 8925/Tilt will have Blackberry Connect

Credit Paul at Mocaco for finding this on the HTC America web site.
http://www.america.htc.com/connect/8925/
http://www.america.htc.com/mobile/connect/8925/
I've never used a Blackberry before. Is there an advantage to using this instead of the usual Windows Mobile methods for email? Would this allow me to have push email if my company doesn't have an exchange server?
KCMatt said:
Credit Paul at Mocaco for finding this on the HTC America web site.
http://www.america.htc.com/connect/8925/
http://www.america.htc.com/mobile/connect/8925/
I've never used a Blackberry before. Is there an advantage to using this instead of the usual Windows Mobile methods for email? Would this allow me to have push email if my company doesn't have an exchange server?
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At least the name, AT&T Tilt, is now 100% confirmed!!!
Gr8 to see that my next phone also supports Blackberry Connect. I am using it on my Wizard for some months and id rather not live without it.
Basically BBC has similar functionality as WM Push-email. BBC is of most use when your company has chosen for Blackberry instead of MS Exchange push technology.
Im wondering what the advantages of BBC 4 are as compared to the old version 2 (afaik there is no BBC version 3)
I'd be interested in hearing if people have an opinion of a BB server vs. Goodlink on this device. My company has both. Thanks
BB Connect vs GoodLink on Kaiser
matt sb said:
I'd be interested in hearing if people have an opinion of a BB server vs. Goodlink on this device. My company has both. Thanks
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I am using GoodLink on my kaiser and it is HORRIBLE!! For the past few ROMs, GoodLink has all but crippled my device when i am composing or replying-to a message. It is real jerky when typing and sometimes the device briefly locks up.
I have been told that Version 5 of GoodLink works better on WM6 & this device but I can't get my hands on it because it has not been certified in our production environment. (The lab guys use Exchange Push and i am trying to get my mailbox moved there.)
I am about to pull down BB Connect and give it a go until I can get on the Exchange Push servers. The drawback to BB Connect is that only Mail & Calendar are sync'd wirelessly. Notes, Contacts, Tasks have to be sync'd manually though the BB Desktop Mgr.
im waititng for my kaiser. I have been a longtime user of Goodlink on Palm treos- i think Goodlink is significantly better than any other mail app out there. I contacted Good regarding support for WM6 and Kaiser. they said that Good 5 supports WM6 but the kaiser is not listed as a supported device (yet?).
After my experiences of Good on a WM Treo750 (disasterous) i will stick with the WM mail / contacts apps for now.
Q for the person who put good on his / her kaiser: did contacts searching etc still work properly?
BB4 syncs contacts tasks 7 notes
Hello I would be interesyed in hearing if the BB connect version from for the tilt works on the HTC branded kaiser.
I have headr that with blackberry connect 4 you can now sync email,calendar,contacts, and tasks wirelessly AND use the MDS service even for the pocket explorer, google maps, etc.
Since I couldn't get bbc to work on my universal, if this works on the kaiser I will give it a go... I certainly would drop my 8800 blackberry for the kaiser.
thanks
Vinny
I have now installed Good on the Kaiser and it worked perfectly. Exactly like on the Hermes. We are running v4.9.3.21_EN
BB 4 advantages
edsub said:
Gr8 to see that my next phone also supports Blackberry Connect. I am using it on my Wizard for some months and id rather not live without it.
Basically BBC has similar functionality as WM Push-email. BBC is of most use when your company has chosen for Blackberry instead of MS Exchange push technology.
Im wondering what the advantages of BBC 4 are as compared to the old version 2 (afaik there is no BBC version 3)
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One of the nices things about BB 4 is that now you can connect to the internet through the MDS service, without having to disconnect from the blackberry connection to go to your ISP connection. It also supports wireless activation as well as better security policies among other things.
Ha one of the lucky kaiser owners actually tested this? I would like to know if this will also work on the HTC branded Kaiser or just on the AT&T Tilt.
thanks!!
Vinny
Can someone educate me on the difference between Blackberry Enterprise Service and Activesync? Why would one choose the BES over Activesync. I believe they both are push email services with syncing of calendar, contacts, and notes as well. What are the benefits or are they exactly the same except for personal preferences?
I have just installed it on the HTC TyTN II. I am using FIDO in Canada which uses BB Connect and it works very well.
Thanks,
my company uses Good and a BB server. I got BBC to install on the Tytn II but I switched back to Good within a few days. BBC on a Pocket PC is not great. It slows the device down terribly. Also Good synched much faster. The attachment handling is bad and very limiting. I think Good 5.0 due out this month should be even better. Just my 2 cents.
Thx a lot it works fine in T-Mob Hungary with Tytn II. saved my new tool you did!
Hello I've installed the BB Connect software and got a pin, I also get connection to the network and a IP Address, but whenever I try to activate i get errors, if I do it via USB I get a success message but my BBC destop says PIN unknown, the I tried to do a wireless activation ang got a an error saying that I should contact my administrator.
Can this have something to do with the Enterprise server? supposedly my company doesn't support BBC devices, is there a way they can know this is not a BB?
I'm in MExico using Telcel carrier.
Thanks!!
Works for me too
Tytn 2 (from orange uk - on orange uk) running bbconnect 4.0.84 against my works bes
used the desktop config tool once installed (unconnected to pc - see below) and all fine
*note
If you install bbconnect when attached to your pc it hangs and doesn't install properly so you have to remove / reinstall
Installed BB Connect yesterday on an AT&T Tilt. Account is on the company BES server. Working well so far.
jvloyola said:
Hello I've installed the BB Connect software and got a pin, I also get connection to the network and a IP Address, but whenever I try to activate i get errors, if I do it via USB I get a success message but my BBC destop says PIN unknown, the I tried to do a wireless activation ang got a an error saying that I should contact my administrator.
Can this have something to do with the Enterprise server? supposedly my company doesn't support BBC devices, is there a way they can know this is not a BB?
I'm in MExico using Telcel carrier.
Thanks!!
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This sounds like the problem I had. It's related to the policies on your company's BES. I found the solution in the RIM knowledgebase:
http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/sear...Public&dialogID=31123659&stateId=0 0 31125133
Unfortunately, it requires action by a BES admin. I hope you can sweet talk an admin into doing it.
Wifi?
Can any of you using this confirm if it works or not via wifi?? Can you sync with the bes or bis with out a data connection only using wifi???
Thanks.
Jeff
so bb connect includes bb messenger? i cant find it, maybe im not seeing it correctly..
There is no blackberry messenger client in blackberry connect at this time.

Major email problems, my phone doesn't like smtp

Firstly I hope i haven't messed this up by fiddling about with installing manila 2D because it did seem to work fine, i've taken it off since to see if it makes a difference but of course Noooooooo.
Vodafone UK are being pretty useless about this because the handset is no longer on their list for support...typical.
I use my Tytn2 tilt as my alround comms device, it's my phone, my diary, and my modem for my Macbook.
I got the phone last january and after much hassle setting up the bluetooth PAN i got it working sweet.
I have my business NTL email account and my googlemail account on my phone and on my laptop.
I pick up my business emails on my phone as and when i need to. I use the googlemail account on the laptop to send images I take once photoshopped.
this has worked amazingly well for the last 13 months or so. I connect my phone to the internet, then over bluetooth i connect my laptop to the PAN on my phone, I could surf the net, FTP, and email all day long no problem.
recently (about the last two or three weeks) i've found I can't send an email on my laptop via my phone. it comes back with an error saying it can't connect to the SMTP server.
I can still surf the net and still receive emails but I can't send ANYTHING.
I have tried altering account settings but it makes no difference and besides it all works perfectly when I connect to a WIFI point.
On my phone the NTL world account has send.vodafone.net set as the smtp
the googlemail account is set as smtp.googlemail.com (this is temperamental but has worked fine in the past)
on my laptop the NTL world account is set to smtp.ntlworld.com
and the googlemail account is smtp.googlemail.com
these work fine over WIFI. But over the PAN they receive but the outgoing won't connect.
Please could anybody with any ideas help me out, vodafone is a loss, and i'm not due for an upgrade until june, although I'm not ready to give up on this yet, it should still be working as it did a couple of months ago
At the moment I am a little reluctant to do a total hard reset as it took so long to get the phone (with the help of the bluetooth DUNN patch) to get the damn thing to work as a modem in the first place.

Activesync - Waiting for Network

Hmmm, not sure this is the best place, but it is a problem with my TD2 and certainly any searches so far have yielded little in the way of result.
So we begin - I've had my TD2 since May '09 until last weekend it has been recieving outlook items perfectly via GPRS/3G and Wi-fi all through Activesync/Direct Push without any problems. In fact normally quicker than the same item appearing in Outlook on my laptop via the VPN.
Last weekend we changed broadband supplier and upgraded our router at Head Office. Since then updates through Activesync have been sporadic at best but are normally non-existent. This is despite installing the new self-generated certificate for the new VPN/OWA IP number.
When plugged into my laptop and passing through to the Exchange Server via desktop Activesync the items will update on the phone. Unplug from the laptop and use GPRS and it takes an age to synhcronise before finally saying "Waiting for Network" and not actually downloading anything. Equally using the Wi-Fi at home gets similar results, though this is sometimes mixed up with a Server Temporarily unavailable actual error message rather than the meaningless "Waiting for Network".
Our IT support contractor is flummoxed (they got one of their iPhones to access my account and it worked perfectly and timeously). I have even done a hard reset of the TD2 and rebuilt the settings from scratch and we're still back to the same place.
I can only assume that it is something server side that is upsetting the process, but don't know what. Really annoying as it has all worked perfectly for 11 months and has now stopped working without me actually changing the device settings in any way whatsoever.
I went with a WM over an iPhone to get best MS integration, so why should this wobble give my phone problems when an iPhone can work away just fine?
So, any ideas from the great XDA font of knowledge of all things WM?
Many thanks,
Niall
Turns out the new router that was part of the broadband upgrade didn't have Port Routing configured correctly. One tick of a box and all is sorted for OTA syncing.
Still not working over Wi-Fi at home though so some work still needed somewhere.
Niall
If only it was that easy. Still get the Waiting for Network error.
I even did a hard reset, again, and got the "Waiting for Network" error on the first sync.
Only way to solve it seems to be to turn off SSL, but even that falls down after a while stating that:
Exchange Activsync has encountered an error. If this condition persists, please contact you Exchange Administrator.
Support Code 0x80830002
If I then desktop sync the device to Activsync on the laptop via USB (which passes through to our server Exchange anyway) it seems to "reset" the sync and OTA syncing will work again - for a time, normally failing sometime between 5 and 7am in the morning when I check Activsync on the TD2.
Our IT support contractor has washed their hands of it saying it must be the phone because they've had it working fine for several days on an iPhone and old WM6.1 HTC device syncing with SSL to my account. Having not changed anything on the device I don't understand what is wrong with it to behave so differently. Given that the phone is only 12 months old this a real downer.
Prior to the hard reset I was having intermittent filesys.exe crashing errors but these have gone now. Could it be related?
Flummoxed.
Niall
The IT bods have lent me the WM6.1 device (a Touch HD - man I love Sense 2.5 over Touchflo 3D.....). I have swapped SIMs so my TD2 is temporarily on Vodafone whilst the Touch HD has my T-Mobile SIM in it - both are currently syncing. Will see which one stops working first - so for those who are interested, watch this space!
Niall
For those that are interested here's where we are.
Niall M said:
Still not working over Wi-Fi at home though so some work still needed somewhere.
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Got a new router a while back. Opened Port 80 and 443, all sorted. Obviously when the TD2 was working in the past I just wasn't noticing that Activsync wasn't working over WiFi, which is understandable given that Wi-Fi at home is normally for a bit of Facebooking and Casual Web Browsing and wherever the phone had the tiniest bit of T-Mobile signal it would still get push e-mail.
Niall M said:
The IT bods have lent me the WM6.1 device (a Touch HD - man I love Sense 2.5 over Touchflo 3D.....). I have swapped SIMs so my TD2 is temporarily on Vodafone whilst the Touch HD has my T-Mobile SIM in it - both are currently syncing. Will see which one stops working first - so for those who are interested, watch this space!
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This appears to be a carrier problem. After working flawlessy OTA with SSL for 5 days (Wednesday to Monday) the Touch HD finally stopped at "Waiting for Network" whilst my TD2 with SSL carried on fine on Vodafone.
After a rather tiresome call to T-Mobile to try and explain the problem and have them tell me they've downloaded the manual for the TD2 and can I check the Activsync settings, settings, etc, I got put on hold for a while before they came back and said they've enabled Mobile E-mail on my account. They had no explanation as to why this had been disabled.
So the TD2 is back on T-Mobile with SSL. As of yesterday there was no improvement in that it would still fail. However I do appreciate that it can take a while for settings to take effect and so far "touch wood" today all is working as it should following a "Wi-fi reset" yesterday afternoon. Will probably update the thread further to confirm all is well or moan!
So in my case this was a carrier issue that caused the intermittent functioning of Activesync OTA. Changing to a different connection type e.g. Wi-Fi or Pass through via Desktop Activsync on USB would allow a successful sync and reset the OTA syncing (I guess it cleared the previous "dead/jammed/FUBAR'd" OTA Activesync connection) for a limited period of time. I am surprised that having Push E-mail blocked by the carrier allowed for intermittent functionality rather than a YES/NO it either works or it doesn't result!?!
So the lesson here is that the ability to receive Push E-mail may be a slightly different function from your Phone provider which can fail despite your data connection appearing to work fine (Web Browsing OTA on the TD2 was consistent throughout). I just hope this saves someone 4 weeks of phonecalls and hassle!
Niall
On one laptop I have Office2003 which refuses to sync with my Topaz, just sit there constantly trying to synch. PDA connects to laptop, is visable to edit the storage.
Another laptop has Office2010, this sync perfectly but will not allow checkboxes to be checked for contact, calender etc, only allows Mobile Favourites and OneNote...
Going to try a 3rd laptop [friends] that has Office2007 to see if that will fully sync...
T-Mobile phone monkey lied - Didn't make any difference.
The good news is that the problem is sorted. I've been reliably receiving push-email via Activsync OTA since last Thursday (5 days now).
Again it seems to have been a new router problem server side as we were also starting to experience VPN problems at work. The IT contractors contacted Draytek who told them that in one other instance (also on an LLU line) reducing the MTU value on the router solved the problem. Since doing this (maybe unconnected, the IT bods won't be drawn on it) the connection seems to work again. I've done some googling on MTU and the basic premise of reducing the value seems to make sense to me, smaller packets are harder to drop.
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/MTU.htm
Any super techs that actually understand this stuff like to comment?
I can only hope this record of woes shorterns the inconvenience for others in the future!
Thanks,
Niall

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