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PLS forget this, after use BT head set several time, the same problem had been happened! Sorry about this!
BT Head set problem of un-resume with incomming call when the device is suspending. how to fix!
@;Download XDA2s_1-12-178-WWE_UK_Extended_ Rom.zip from below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13072
@And extract the zip and find BA_OEM_PD_BT_Headset.sa.CAB
@Copy&Past BA_OEM_PD_BT_Headset.sa.CAB into Blue Angel and tap it to install.
@Make worm reboot and you can already finish work for replacement the new version of BtCEStack.dll (V1.604)
@@@You can also download same CAB file (but i renamed to BT_Headset.cab) from http://www.asukal.jp/BT_Headset.CAB
Now Blue Angel had became the All Mighty Machine!!!! Enjoy it!
you can see same summary on my Blog
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/1182756.html
Also you can see how to get the missing function of dial network client service on BlueAngel (replacment of the BTWIzardPrifile.dll)
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/1031857.html
Attention for this thread
PLS forget this,
after use BT head set several times, the same problem had been happened!!
(sometimes effective,but sometimes not effective,also sometimes auto resume the device.not sure it`s side effect or natural function of this patch)
If you want to try this, plese dont forget it is your own lisk!
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*for The Guys who already installed and wishes to uninstall due to some side effect. You must delete them manually with following steps.
@If you are using BT function, please turn off the BT, and make worm reboot it.
@Connect IIs to PC with Activesync, and use PC explore (Or use failer which can access dinamic librallies on IIs)and find following 3 files in the windows folder of IIs.
BTAudioGW.dll
BtCeStack.dll
HFPUI.exe
@Rename them to the names to eazy find them in next step（Example;"a" or "1", and make worm reboot again, then you can delete it. You can not delete those 3 files without rename. They were untachable.
@Make it worm reboot again. it have finished already and return to the default!
has anyone found this to work?
Has this worked for anyone? This is the biggest problem with the PDA2K...
Didn't work for me. This BT Headset problem really is a pain.
We were all looking for a solution to the voice dialling problem with the BT Headset on the XDAII and there's no solution to that.
Now a year on, a new 'improved?' model and to cap it all there's no solution to even getting a reliable BT Headset connection!
Now new test of solution
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/1204039.html
Please watch my test!!!! but i am still not sure for myself!
Somebody please post your result with OzBT
Now my bluetooth head set still working with this ozBT.
But i think my result can't say it all for you,guys.
if somebody tried this, pls post your result, worked or not! Please.
After 3 days test, its workable for ME
PLease see folowing new report! seems to be workable!
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/1219842.html
BT headset problem
Thanks vey much for all this work trying to resolve this Blue Tooth problem. However, as a newbie with my Tmobile MDAIII, where can I get official upgrade files, ROMs, etc. unless it is only from this site? In other words,
is there a Blue Angel support site in English anywhere?
Thanks!
I follow instruction of Asukal and now BT headset are usable after standby of pda2k.
Now the only problem I have are that sometimes ppc wake up without motivation. the problem was present also before use ozbt and O2 patch.
Thank you Asukal!
BT headset problem
I've tried and it works fine with jabra 250 and kondor bt 25.
Thanks Asukal you solved my big big problem.
Thanks Again :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Re: After 3 days test, its workable for ME
Asukal said:
PLease see folowing new report! seems to be workable!
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/1219842.html
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Sure it did Asukal :lol: , don't know what to say,
thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaank youuuuuuuuu
works great on my Qtek-9090
good work :wink:
thanks guys!
Appreciated your posting, guys!
since my last post, noboday reported my work was usefull or not.
i have been afraid i am about to become a faker! :wink:
And glad to hear that was worked for you guys!
But please do not forget, sometimes suddenly fail to reconize BT head set.
, then you can re-detect it again, you can use it again.
Do not panish me if that time come please <very little probablity>
Answer to the Mr,Guest>
@this blue tooth patch was downloaded from this forum
@you had better not to inquire anything to the XdaO2IIs support center, they are not specialized mechanics for the PDA, but just a mobile phone serveice center, they will replay you with quite different solutions to your question, it make you worth. this is my suggestion.
Mr,ilvanni> auto wake up without any motivate.
Yes i knew it, but it was not coz of OzBT, but coz of BT patch. before i tried OzBT, it also happened with BT patch. Hope you watch the battery.
--------------other way of solution for this--------------------------
Some Thailand Guy said, use the softoware to turn off the screen(but the windows is runnning), works for this BT head set problem, too.
You can try this,too. (i forget to the name of soft---may be "Screen OFF" or something like that.)
but sorry i didnt try this. need much more attention for the battery.
Re: After 3 days test, its workable for ME
Hi Guys,
I'm a bit new to this pocket pc business. I can see where your coming from, but when I try this my screen, particularly the Todat screen, wont refresh properly, ie you cant read it!
Any ideas?
Sorry i cant catch what you want to say exactly,i guess two situations.
#1;Does it mean today plug-in soft were can`t be appeared aftre wake up?<with using ozBT>
On IIs(or PPC2003) has some non-conpatible with the previouse version of Today Plugs-in Soft<World Today, tAgenda, or exToday,etc>
#2;or does it mean IIs can`t return to windows? some like freeze with susspend? if this case, i have no exipierience about that yet. sorry.
Sorry for not being clear!
What I am saying is that the video display of the "Today Program" ie the start up screen is corrupt. Any window, such as the Bluetooth driver message, stays on the screen. When you press the start button it appears on top of this and the display is corrupt. The device is still working anbnd clicking an any "full screen" application displays normally. The Today screen remains corrupt when you return to it.
Anonymous said:
Sorry for not being clear!
What I am saying is that the video display of the "Today Program" ie the start up screen is corrupt. Any window, such as the Bluetooth driver message, stays on the screen. When you press the start button it appears on top of this and the display is corrupt. The device is still working anbnd clicking an any "full screen" application displays normally. The Today screen remains corrupt when you return to it.
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Switching the Today background to something else, them back again, sorted this for me.
Today programs disapear
Now i got it.
i think it was coz of the New OS, even without those patch, some times happen to me.Or memory condition. Blue Angel lost memory very quick and be stacked easly(too much devise resources--wi-fi,bluetooth,keyboadm many hard bottms--- used i think)
(Himala upgraded with 2003Se is better)
the solution fo this,Mr,Sparkeyxda has right answer, i also try to open option----today---and off/on today plugs in, then return to today. they will come again.
I think it coz of un-compatible of old today programs.
So this moment, i gave up use some of Today programs.
sorry if someboday have better solution, please tell him!
I had the same problem and changing the theme back and forth like sparkyxda solved it for me.
is this worth trying on QTEK9090 ?
The bluetooth problem on 9090 is that whoever calls 9090-user wih BT headset, will hear him/herself really well.. it is as if the audio that is suppoed to get to 9090-user-ear *also* is sent back as if that was somthing 9090 used said. very clear audio loopback
Hi Akusal i wonder if you are working to solve the BT hands free problem & if you need anyhelp testing devices or SW i can do that
I suspect this is as close to the perfect ROM as I can make for you folks, until I find something else universally useful to add..
This ROM has the following characteristics:
-Based on QTek 2.17.7.102
-OS 5.1.195 Build 1487.2.0.0
-Radio 02.07.10
-Protocol 412.1.03
-Includes assorted ringers, themes, OmapClock, and yes, A2DP
- .NET Compact Framework is integrated. It is build 2.0.5238.0
- .NET Compact Framework 1 has been left in. Build 1.0.4292.2
-Did I mention it has A2DP integrated?
-It is not coded to a specific carrier, so theoretically you shouldn't have to CID unlock. HOWEVER, I ask, no, I demand that you CID unlock before installing. Only then will you be allowed to grovel in the forum for help if you run into problems achieving a successful flash.
-Each morning at 7am it will gently vibrate, go start the coffee maker, fetch the newspaper, feed the dogs, and start your bath. Should you leave it at home it's likely to cuddle with your wife...it has no loyalties.
It can be found here until it gets moved:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE_CF2_A2DP.exe
If anyone asks me to make this ROM using 2.08 I'll send my legions of monkeys to harass and belittle you in public.
Thanks man, this is kick ass.
MY HERO!
Dude, you ROCK!!! You have made my decision to get this phone more and more worth it. Thanks again!
A2DP Not Working
So, I CID Unlocked and installed this new ROM successfully. Then I went to the connections screen and enabled bluetooth. Opened up Bluetooth Settings and created a new partnership with my Moto HT820. Went through all the normal steps and it found Hands Free and Wireless Stereo services on my headphones device. I saved the settings.
In 2.08/2.87, at this point I would press the right ear button, which would activate Wireless Stereo mode and I would see a music icon in the top bar. It didn't happen on this new ROM. Another method is to go back to the Bluetooth settings and click&hold on the device and you see a list of services (Hands Free and Wireless Stereo) and then choose Wireless Stereo. On this new ROM, only Hands Free is listed. If I choose to edit the device, it lists that Wireless Stereo is supported on the headphones, but it is not available as a mode on the phone.
I will be going back to 2.08/2.87 for now. Let me know If you happen to figure out what's might be going on.
Thanks!
Hey Summiter .... canyou? .... are you going to? .... I need? .... would you? .... nevermind can't think of anything
A2DP not working with HT820
I've successfully flashed this ROM and tried to pair Motorola HT820 headset but it was not recognized as Wireless Stereo. It was recognized like Hands-free only.
Anyone knows how to make it work? Thanks
Does this ROM still have the issue where the device won't vibrate from standby?
Also... for those of us just tuning in...
What's the benefit of having additional components (like CF) loaded through the extended ROM? When they're installed, will they live in ROM instead of taking up precious storage space? Or is it just the convenience of having everything install from one place?
Maybe Voice Commander in the next release...?
the non-vibrate thing is part of the rom, as MS made it that way. and voice command isn't free, so i doubt he'd include it in the rom.
amg212 said:
Does this ROM still have the issue where the device won't vibrate from standby?
Also... for those of us just tuning in...
What's the benefit of having additional components (like CF) loaded through the extended ROM? When they're installed, will they live in ROM instead of taking up precious storage space? Or is it just the convenience of having everything install from one place?
Maybe Voice Commander in the next release...?
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CF goes to main memory regardless of the settings you choose at installation (you can choose Storage Card >>> it installs w/o error message to main memory).
You can see the appropriate files in the \windows directory. They all start with GACxxxx.
Cheers
hrb
Good Stuff...
One question though. Does this still have the battery indicator moved to the top. I just flashed yesterday without issue but I'm thinking the battery indicator can be optioned. Obviously this is a miniscule issue compared to the other great work you've done. Thanx guy.
J
the battery icon at the top is part of the AKU2.
darkjedi said:
the non-vibrate thing is part of the rom, as MS made it that way. and voice command isn't free, so i doubt he'd include it in the rom.
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I was talking about Voice Commander - not MSVC
Oi Vey!
I'm all settled in on v2.87. everything works, wifi, a2dp, btaudio e.g.
What extras is this going to buy me??
Maybe I'll hold off for a little longer.
Still, thumbs up to Summiter. :wink:
as much as a pain in the ass it is, the 2.17 rom with A2DP is MUCH more stable than the test rom.
Hi Summiter,
I'm set to receive my 8125 this week. I've been doing as much reading and bookmarking as I can until I have the phone in my hands, but I haven't seen this question posted yet.
When a user loads your ROM, does the phone start at the beginning of the customization process (setting time zones, preferences, etc) or do your customizations piggyback as the defaults? What's making me ask is I see you've mapped your camera button to the omap 252 overclock setting and I'm curious what to expect when I load this ROM. Thanks!
100Tbps said:
Hi Summiter,
I'm set to receive my 8125 this week. I've been doing as much reading and bookmarking as I can until I have the phone in my hands, but I haven't seen this question posted yet.
When a user loads your ROM, does the phone start at the beginning of the customization process (setting time zones, preferences, etc) or do your customizations piggyback as the defaults? What's making me ask is I see you've mapped your camera button to the omap 252 overclock setting and I'm curious what to expect when I load this ROM. Thanks!
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Your phone looses all setting and resets as if you just took it out of the box. Its a pain to do over but most of us have become pretty proficient at it with our mulitude of ROM reloads ;-)
Can anyone confirm that they have A2DP working on this ROM?
For folks that have reported not being able to get A2DP working - can you confirm whether the file "bta2dp.dll" exists in your windows directory? It's a hidden file so you'll need to set your file manager to view all files.
Thanks.
Is there an upgrade in one of these ROM versions for the Bluetooth? Im having issues with my 8125 and my BMW hands free car kit. My contact list doesnt show up on my display in the car. I had a SE 710a and it worked perfectly. With my 8125 I cant get the contact list on the hands free.
If you've CID unlocked previously, and you have 2.17 now, can you just use this ROM directly? Or is it necessary to downgrade and then CID unlock again? Sorry for the noob question.
Summiter...
There has been talk and concern about the 8125 erasing data on the sd card if you set your email options to save attachments to it. I was wondering if you knew anything about this and/or the new ROM version might fix the issue.
It seems logout has updated his WM5 ROM.
This is based on TuMa 1.4 but with the pre-installed applications removed to speed things up a bit.
I've no idea what's changed since 5.4.01 as there's no readme/changelog and don't have time to test it right now.
hi have download and tried this rom, but stop im middel off upgrating on my BA stop over 40%
wait for more info..
I upgraded successfully to this ROM just now. I was using the old Logout rom, so I hope this is a bug fixing update.
Will post feedback when I test it out.
WM2K5 V5.4.03.HN (V5.4.02.HN only in Vietnam)
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Updates/Logout/Logout_WM2K5_5.4.03_HN.rar
New:
- RamDisk32 and change some path to RamDisk (IE temp file, Mail attd file ...)
- MS BT Stack. (BT headset didn't test)
- Add sms alert Fix
- Add Disable Cert.
- FlightMode App
- Backup
- Task manager
- SoftKeyEx
- Change reg and replace some file from Hima 2.03 (Thank Bepe, Tofclock)
- Ext_Rom autorun
- And some app from Ext_rom
EDIT MDAIIIUser
Moved file to safe place corrected link
Hi logout,
I have to say you nailed this version nicely. fastest ROM ever.
good work dude. keep it up. thanks you.
imatrix
Agreed. This is a really fast ROM.
Congratulations Logout, you just won the speed crown that used to be held by Ivan v4R2.1.
One bug I've spotted with the inbuilt taskmanager - don't use the "cpu usage" option in the menus. It hardlocks the Today screen, only a reboot returns things to normal. This is not a fault of the ROM though, and I'm otherwise really pleased with this new taskmanager, waaay more detail.
When I use Logout previous version 5.4.01HN, i tryin to use my XDa2s as a USB modem, when i choose wireless modem in program and change connection type from serial to USB like the documentation from wiki, and click start, but its shows error and I cant use my XDA2s as USB modem.
And can you teach me how to connetc internet using incoming and outgoing port on blootoh ini your newest ROM.
Thanks Mr. Logout you the best.
I am testing this ROM and, as the latest one, is really fast. The only problem I've found by now is that the phone suddenly after a soft reset refuses to start. Clicking on the antenna icon shows it is "Out of service", and there is no way to make it work again but hard-resetting the device (losing everything in the process, of course).
Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Can anybody help here?
Anyway, thanks for your work Logout.
thanks a lot
let's enjoy and debug it!!!
Great So Far!
Well, so far:
* excellent speed
* the voice speed dial works great with my Jabra 250 BT, HOWEVER it seems when I'm in a call only the audio out works on the hands free, you have to put your mouth next to the phone mic to have any chance at the conversation. Further testing pending
* active sync worked flawlessly
* Bluetooth still does not remain on during standby :-( ... the never ending curse continues!
that's all the testing I have for now, will try some more, but so far so good!
Thanks... logout ... i love u rom... Great job!
Thanks for Sharing
:evil:
hi, all
i have reflash by ba an d now everything is ok..
just like to say that the speed is fantastic on this rom... thanks
and seens to be very stable.. i will continue test and report if i find a issue.
thanks again.
great ROM, but, after soft reset, it looses the time and settings(various registry changes i make like registering resco explorer and some other apps). WMP10 behaves a little odd in beginning of any song.
But, as said above, the ROM is indeed stable and works like a charm irrespective of the bugs mentioned above
kudos to LOGOUT
thingonaspring said:
Taskmanager - don't use the "cpu usage" option in the menus.
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Task manager I extract from Hima 2.03, maybe CPU USAGE work in BA not well. Download new version & copy to windows\
If use backup built-in to restore data, after restore don't press OK to reboot immediately - wait a few minute to update registry then reboot.
A couple of things that I have noticed...
First of all.. Well done... The Rom seems to be very stgable, and damn fast!
OK.. a couple of bugs... (well.. maybe just me being an idiot!)
First.. I love the way that you have set the Ext_Rom to automatically install.. however.. why have you included the rst command in the config file?? would it not be easier to leave it out, and then power off and soft reset manually?
Second.. MS BT Stack & Wireless Modem.. Works great, about 85% of the time, and then reconnects saying PPP link protocol not connected in Windows.. hmm.. a quick radio reset and then it works again. It even connects WITHOUT the Wireless modem software!! (However, you need a soft reset or to activate flight mode to switch the phone back on!
SPB pocket Plus works fine,
The camera driver seems to work better than other versions i have seen, however i cant play back files that i have previousely recorded. They just show a series of still images!!
I installed a few games and stuff as well.. BTW Netfront 3 didnt work for me!
Keep up the good work!
Greetz from Malta..
Juggles
Soryy, I found another bugs when i tryin WIFI in my class today. When I turn off, it on again, and again.
WiFi
Hi Logout
I installed your new version and started with testing. It's fast (exept PIE, but nothing new) und seems stable.
On my device, I got several problems with wireless:
Cradle-Issiue:
When my device is connected (and running) to the pc and I plug out the usb-cable, wifi won't work. Wireless is connected to my access-point, but no traffic, when trying surfin or sending/receiving.
When I power off the BA and then plug out the cable, wifi will work after powered on the BA. I use these also to prevent a soft-reset when I forgot to power off before unpluging.
Allways resuming:
When the device is powered off, while wifi was enabled, wifi will restart automaticly after power on. When wifi is disabled, it will also be restarted after the next power on.
The work-around for this: Set the "ResetOnResume" (HKLM\comm\tiacxwln1\Parms) Value to 1. For me its working.
Does anybody know, if the new ms-pushmail-service could be added on a BA?
Thanks for your work
Chris
PH20B
ROM: 5.43.HN.WWE
Radio: 1.15.00
Prot.: 1337.45
hi logout..
afther of 1 day off testing, the ongly issues i found is the wifi, afther i put im on, it stays on... . i will trie the solucion off chrischi.
and afther i take out the BA of cradel, i need to close activesync, becouse if i dont do this, afther i clic on power button, he after 1 minute, resumes im self on.
but is very stable, on morning i dont close activesysnc and put my BA on pocket. afther a few minutes i take im and a lot off programs if on i ongly need to close everything and put im again on pocket
i ongly made a soft-reset becouse off wifi..
thanks
Great rom Logout!
I it the fastest ported version, but has some bugs. When you enable speakerphone in phone mode the notification for it stays even after you ended call. I had some problems that i can not enable bluetooth and wifi , then softreset fixed this bug temporary
Crash
After trying to activate or deactivate wireless, my Qtek freezed. I had to softreset the BA:
The phone can't be activated. Also "no service" indicated, when clicking the antenna-icon - the same as bolopez wrote.
Also the Calendar, Contacts & Tasks can't be started (I synched them with the exchange-server). ActiveSync appearing, but not working.
Perhaps the problems could also be caused by activesync. When uncraddling the BA, it allways showed the icon with the two arrows in titelbar like in the state of connected with the pc.
Greetz
Chris
Updates are in BLUE
Okay, time for a long post... (and please remember this is all subjective, and personal experiences, your's may be different!)
Preamble:
I've had my BA for a couple of months now, prior to that it has always been PalmO OS devices which I loved, but I wanted a phone enabled device and the Treo was just too expensive to justify it... so ebay beckoned and £100 later I was a proud owner of an O2 XDA IIs...
I'm a fairly heavy user of my PDA's I use them for all my network admin, work documentation, mail on the move, a heavily laden calendar and everything else a busy professional with a family does... with loads, and loads, of travel!!
First thoughts:
I was, to be honest, dreading the move to M$, I have always been a promoter of opensource, Palm, and anything other than the big M, but I was pleasantly surprised... with relativley little pain I got into the WM2003SE way of things, and after a quick read of the Wiki, I cooked my own ROM and had an O2 device which worked really well... I could use my BT headset as stereo headphones or a headset, while connecting to my GPS, I had my Gmail, O2, Hotmail and other accounts set up, I could chat with Skype, GoogleTalk, MSN and ICQ, I had a WiFi sniffer, and all the other trappings as well as a GPRS connection for TomTom Traffic etc... and the media capability was cool, TCPMP worked really well, and with a 1Gig SD card I could take a couple of movies/TV episodes for the journey... in short, I no longer had to worry about taking a laptop on the road.
But that wasn't enough, I was reading about these WM5 ROMS and felt that, after being pleasantly surprised with WM2003SE, it was worth a shot... over the last few days I have tried several ROM's and they all have up/down sides... what follows is a (not so brief) summary of my experiences...
I load up my BA fairly heavily, and I had specific requirements... speed, callerid, space, preferrably A2DP, and again, speed!!
TuMa 1.4 (MS BT Stack):
Some see this as the 'Daddy' of the WM5 ports and I must admit, with one major bugbear, this is an impressive ROM... it includes a lot of stuff in the build which some might prefer was left out, but for the basic user it's helpful to have some of these...
(A Really COOL Boot Logo!!)
TotalCommander
PocketRAR
Extra Games
Cyberon Voice Dialler
GB-Soft Tweak
vBar
pShutXP
IP Utilities
Pocket FTP
SMS Name Notify
ClearVue PDF
BT Headset Today Plugin
BT Stereo Control
Device Lock Today Plugin
and other bits and bobs...
This may well be considered as a 'bloated' ROM (but remember they are all installed in ROM, so no space is taken up from your 'own' space), there is an Ext_ROM option, from SD Card, in this ROM so the memory works out like this... 60MB Storage (- whatever you set up as an Ext_ROM) and 91MB Program Memory... you also get a 32MB Temp_Drive ( I assume this is like a RAMDISK?)... available on a clean install is:
Storage: 57.62MB
Program: 72.53MB
TEMP_Drive: 31.85MB
Total: 162MB (Storage & TEMP_Disk available for app install = 89.47MB)
Out of the Box:
BT: Works very well... including A2DP, I had no problems, whatsoever with this BT Stack/Setup.
WiFi: Again no problems and no reset once I'd applied the Reg Hack.
Base OS: This is where, for me, it all falls apart... even with eveything else working like a dream, the 'Pictures & Videos' app in this build just does not work, at all! This means that the CallerID functionality is kaput... I can't live with this, I love the ability to 'see' who is calling, I have many, many numbers in the work category, and being able to put a face to a number beats having only a name any day... other than that this ROM works really well, and the additional install space means I can have all my apps installed without the 'critical' low storage warning... in addition to this another glitch I have come across is 'sticky' buttons... both the D-Pad and the hardware keyboard can result in stuck keys/repeated entries... BT Voice Dialling works with Cyberon, and even better with MS Voice Command (if you hack a little), and with the A2DP profile the MS option works through the BT headset rather than the PDA speaker,,,
Ivan V4 R3 (WidComm BT Stack):
Built as a 'clean' ROM, this one really comes with no bells or whistles, included are:
BT Headset Today Plugin
Cyberon Voice Dialler (I Think!)
and apart from the Base OS stuff, that's about it!
This is a relatively speedy ROM on first impressions, but it slows dramatically down when loaded with apps... you can setup an Ext_ROM with this one, or use the full 60MB as storage... there is no Ramdisk or Temp_Drive option so you get 60MB Storage (- whatever you set up as an Ext_ROM) and 123MB Program Memory... available on a clean install is...
Storage: 57.64MB
Program: 98.40MB
Total: 156.04MB (Storage available for app install = 57.64MB)
Out of the box:
BT: works okay, although there is no A2DP functionality,but I can connect to my headset and my GPS... (which is a big thumbs-up for me). I have experienced a few of the system restarting glitches, but not the BT not restarting/dropping out with this ROM so that's an upside.
WiFi: Connectivity is okay (typical BA signal strength) and once you apply the 'ResetOnResume' Reg hack then it works very well, I have had no dropouts or non-restarts with it at all.
Base OS: A big upside for this is the Pictures & Video, it works! This means I can use the CallerID function on the WM5 dialler, which I do, extensively!!
Logout V5.4.03 (WidComm BT Stack):
Read great reviews of this on the forum, so thought I'd give it a bash... included are (if you install the Ext_ROM):
Cyberon Voice Dial
ResInfo
Task Manager
Device Lock Today Plugin
TuMa Keyboard (I think, although it looks nicer!)
Just installed this one today... first impressions weren't very good as many of the apps which were meant to be there couldn't be found on startup... then I realised I hadn't cleaned my Registry Hive before the Flash!! The speed in this one is blinding! Compared to both of the others this one is as fast as 2003SE, again, it uses a Ramdisk so you have added space for installs, and it can also use an Ext_ROM, so you have your choice... so you get 60MB Storage (- whatever you use for Ext_ROM), 93MB Program Memory and a 32MB Ramdisk... available on a clean(ish) install (I installed the MMS/Album/Voice Dial and Resinfo Cabs) is...
Storage: 52.8MB
Program: 71.9MB
RAMDISK: 31.8MB
Total: 156.6MB (Storage available for app install = 84.6MB)
Out of the Box:
BT: What there is available works fine... but no A2DP... not experienced any restart issues yet, but it's ealry days
WiFi: Again, all seems fine
Base OS: As stated above this one is blindingly fast... so much so that I actually forget it's a ported WM5 ROM at times, the Pictures & Videos app works, so that's a biggy on the plus side for me, everything seems to be ticking along quite sweetly...
UPDATE 1: Logout ROM seems to lag for a while after installs of S/W... but it settles down again, had one occurrence of s-s-s-stuttering keyboard, but nothing major, and no 3s delay on phone ring, even without reg hack
Artz (WM5_ArtZ_upgrade_WWE_1.7.1.3400_SDCard)
Iloved this ROM at first sight, it had the Stereo Audio BT profile without any updating, it was clean, smooth and fast, but then I tried using it... I'm not sure what went wrong but it just didn't 'gel':
BT: As stated this looked good from the outside, and it did recognise both my GPS and my headset, and it would connect with both, but, andit's a huge but! It wouldn't get any services from my headset on reconnection, it wouldn't recognise my headset as stereo (even though it though it would recognise the profile?) and as vor a 'normal' BT headset, it just sent my i.Tech headset haywire, beeping, pinging and ringing constantly... I couldn't stop it!
WiFi: Again, issues with this... no matter what I did, this ROM would not reconnect to my AP after a reset or power down...
Base OS: At face value this ROM was excellent, it had all I needed to start setting up my BA, and the option for Ext_ROM from an SD card is great... but with the issues above, and the spped at which it 'slowed down' with apps added it was unworkable
Obviously I will update each of these as I continue to 'tinker'... and wait for Logout 5.4.5 or TuMa 1.5, if either of these fix the little issues I've mentioned (A2DP for Logout and P&V for TuMa) then I'll be in BA WM5 Nirvana!
In summary, heres a little overview (TuMa, Ivan, Logout):
Speed: 3, 2, 1 (And then some!)
Apps: 1, 3, 2
A2DP: Y, N, N
P&V: N, Y, Y
Voice Dial: Y*, Y, Y
Available Mem: 162/89, 156/57, 156/84
*TuMa's is the only ROM I tested with MS Voice command, so BT Mic+PDA speaker for the other two, complete headset for TuMa.
So there you have it... a 'brief' insight into a few days of WM5 experience, personally I'm going to stay with Logout's ROM, the speed is unsurpassed, it has ample space for installs, I get my CallerID due to P&V working, and if there's one thing about TuMa's ROM I could do without it's the 'free' installed apps... I don't use TtlCmd, I don't use Pocket FTP and I don't use Pocket RAR (Resco Explorer covers those 3 and then some), I use Tweaks2k2 to apply most of my hacks, so the GB-Soft Tweak is mostly redundant, and I use Wisbar instead of vBar... but it's a personal preference thing... in the end, it's up to you... (I now use Total Commander loads Thx TuMa)
I'll update this as I try other ROM's or find other benefits/problems/fixes...
*** See my other post in this thread dated 23/06/06 for other issues which I have come across with WM5...***
Logout 5.4.05
I had high hopes for this ROM, 5.4.03 was nearly there, and built on the best of TuMa and Ivan's ROM's...
Out of the Box
An incredibly fast ROM, by far the fastest in basic form compared to all the others available... there are many little tweaks in the software and add-ons included as standard which are useful, such as the SMS Alert Fix etc. It's up to you to make the Ext_ROM, but this is good for 'tweakers' as you can build it to your liking.
BT: Basically, a nightmare! I believe this uses the WidComm stack and as such I can't get the A2DP to work, yes it recognises my Headset, and yes it says there is a 'Wireless Stereo' capability, but when you try to enable that profile it says 'No Device Found'... in addition, and I'm not sure if this is due to the BT switching off fix, my device was switching on at least once every two minutes!!
WiFi: I didn't get round to test this for the reason above, and also the power up issue causing me major headaches.
Issues: I had too many issues with this ROM to detail them all, a short list would be:
No A2DP
Random Power Ons
Software Not Installing Correctly
Software Not Removing Correctly
Software Not Running (Tweaks2K2, WiFiFoFum and others)
BT Dropping Out (While Powered Up)
OS Locks Out (Random, No Common Factor)
And the speed once a few 'heavy' apps are installed deteriorates dramatically...
I have now resorted to TuMa 1.4... I know I have stated previously that I couldn't use it, but I have found a workaround to the Caller ID issue, and the BT works very well (including A2DP), with both 1.13 and 1.15 Radio ROM's, and I have not experienced one unwanted power up, and the BT has stayed on for ages regardless, in addition as long as I don't install WisBar the speed of this ROM beats all the others hands down once all my other apps are loaded. Also, I have had the BA on for 7 hours now, using bluetooth for 1 hour solid in the gym for music, making several calls, setting up my software etc and the battery is still at 75%... not bad at all in my books.
As I said earlier, bring on TuMa 1.5!
Now this is useful! Thanks for sharing and I give my thumbs up for updating the first post as you go on trying.
I'm very happy to read your review.
I'm surprised you did not mention the battery drain (false indications that your battery is dead, when in fact it is not) with TuMa 1.4
Great Work!!!!
G8 work. Good detailed description which i am sure a lot of people will appreciate. i
Logout Rom = Speaker phone icon does not disappear after call
WMP 10 crackling noise for first 30 -60 sec of song
@snapper - Can't say I noticed it, but then again, whenever I sit down for more than 30mins, my brick goes on to power anyhow...
Why does everybody forget about ArtZ's ROM? :/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=48215
Not forgotten, just not used,,,
If you read the last couple of para's I do state that I'll get round to Artz's and update the post...
Yup, missed that (was in hurry, checked only the explicitly enumerated ROMs :| )
The Artz of ROM's
Hmm, d/l'ing this one now... expect an update over the next day ot two... encountered a few 'glitches' with the Logout ROM tday, nothing too major, but enough to get my goat!
Is there any reason why, with certain ROM's, certain apps decide my BA is a VGA device? This has cased me no end of trouble today, and I can't for the life of me, work out the reason...
Anyway, expecting good things from the Artz ROM, just read the forum a few mins ago and notice it's a 'clean' ROM with the BT stack! Could be I get my wishlist... let's just see if P&V works...
Mad props for a very well written article.
I've gone down the wm5 road the last week as well. I tried tuma 1.3, tuma 1.4, ivan, and now i'm on logout. I was wondering how extensively you tested the wifi? I have had problems with it on all the roms.
The issue happens when wifi is ON and the device shuts off after 1 minute. Then the device powers back up when i press the power button and the wifi will continually try to reconnect to the AP that it was just on but will never make a connection. Clearing the settings on the connection doesn't work and it inhibits the ability of the device to detect any new networks.
I was wondering if you had any problems like this and if resetonresume fixes this?
Also i'm a little confused about the location of the storage memory and the programs memory in the file structure of wm5. Could someone explain this or send me in the right direction? (aka. search terms or thread link)
willpower102 said:
Mad props for a very well written article.
I've gone down the wm5 road the last week as well. I tried tuma 1.3, tuma 1.4, ivan, and now i'm on logout. I was wondering how extensively you tested the wifi? I have had problems with it on all the roms.
The issue happens when wifi is ON and the device shuts off after 1 minute. Then the device powers back up when i press the power button and the wifi will continually try to reconnect to the AP that it was just on but will never make a connection. Clearing the settings on the connection doesn't work and it inhibits the ability of the device to detect any new networks.
I was wondering if you had any problems like this and if resetonresume fixes this?
Also i'm a little confused about the location of the storage memory and the programs memory in the file structure of wm5. Could someone explain this or send me in the right direction? (aka. search terms or thread link)
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I had this problem on my BA with 03se just a couple days ago so I don't think its related to just 05. I used the vx ip utility to release and renew the IP and I believe that fixed it.. I think it has something to do with the DHCP reservation
Great guide, very handy for begginers. Should be sticked :idea:
willpower102 said:
Mad props for a very well written article.
I've gone down the wm5 road the last week as well. I tried tuma 1.3, tuma 1.4, ivan, and now i'm on logout. I was wondering how extensively you tested the wifi? I have had problems with it on all the roms.
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Using wifi on my BA for over a wk everyday @ work & home, no such problems faced with Ivans ROM, have not tested logout, but will do that this wkend.
Guess its a hardware issue! again, thats just a guess
Yaantra
Great info!
This is great info and was very useful to me. I am on WM2003 and have not yet upgraded. With 2003, my only issues are that MS voice command won't work via the BT headset, the 80211b wireless requires a reboot to turn on and off, and the phone requires a reboot perhaps once a week. Otherwise it works well and I want my 2005 to be equal or better. I thin TuMA 1.5 will be it.
Has anyone actually got a working MMS Client primarily for Logout's new ROM
WiFi Issues...
@ will...
Yes, I noticed on first flashing that, even though I had entered the settings for my AP, when the system resumed then it would not reconect, after using the resetonresume reg hack all was well...
I also noticed this on Artz's ROM which I will be adding to my first post over the next day or two, as well as a few other points/comparisons...
All I will say at the moment is that all has not been a bed of roses in my WM5 world and backward steps may be ahead... (unless Logout 5.4.0.5 or TuMa 1.5 are here soon... and they deliver on our expectations!!)
Tuma / Logout roms
sounds to me that you will be heading back to wm2003. main reason for saying this is how you use your pda. Your demands are high (as they should be) and you use your pda very heavily (wifi, bluetooth etc) hence functionality and speed are your highest priorities.
having said all this i think and hope tuma/logouts new roms will hit the spot (i have faith).
FYI just upgraded to 1.15 radio and the sound quality is good!!!!!!
Issues, concerns and resolutions...
Well, the first post will be updated later today, but just as a heads up, I experienced BT issues with all ROM's except the TuMa 1.4, and various other 'niggles'... issues which I couldn't live with unfortunately:
BT: I like the A2DP functionality, I use GPS heavily and need them to work every time, with the other 3 ROM's I've tried I experienced various problems such as BT not reconnecting to paired devices, BT connecting but causing mayhem with my headset (in Artz' update later), crackly sound, dropouts, no phone, no voice dial, ad infinitum...
WiFi: This worked fairly well in all the ROMs, I managed to get all 4 tested to reconnect after standby/soft reset/battery change etc.
Battery: The experiences I had with battery life weren't actually that bad, yes it was heavier than 2003SE, but that's to be expected... my main issue was that on a couple of the ROM's I experienced the 'no Radio ROM' syndrome after a battery change, not major, but a pain in the butt anyway!
Usage: These are all ROM's that are designed for 'newer' machines at their hearts, and as such, as soon as you load up some heavy apps the whole system starts to drag, I cannot afford to wait over 1 minute for my PDA to boot after soft reset, or 30 secs for an app to open... and I certainly don't like it to be 'hit or miss' if an app opens when I ask it to!
Summary: I really love the WM5 interface, the smoother way that notifications are dealt with, the 'soft-menu' buttons are a godsend, the built in GPS management, and any of the other 'tweaks' MS have included make it a PDA users dream, unfortunately, at the moment it's just that, a dream... the BA is not 'Designed for Windows Mobile 5' and until TuMa, Logout, or Artz [I believe Ivan has left for a new device ] manage to get it 'right' (and major kudos to them all for their perseverence in what must be a most frustrating endeavour) I, as an everyday, heavy, PDA user will remain with WM2003SE... I'm not happy about it, but needs must
Re: Issues, concerns and resolutions...
spkr4thdd said:
Usage: These are all ROM's that are designed for 'newer' machines at their hearts
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Just FYI that is incorrect, Artz and Ivan's ROMS are based on an actual BA BEAT build of WM5 that was made by microsoft, that has been patched and edited with later versions of the components, whereas TuMa and Logout's Rom are based on a Wizard ROM.
spkr4thdd said:
the BA is not 'Designed for Windows Mobile 5'
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Read up, Basically every WM2003SE device has a WM5 Version made for it, however the operators in thier infinate wisdom decided that they didnt want people having WM5 on thier 'old' phones and would rather that people brought new ones.
Re: Issues, concerns and resolutions...
Midget_1990 said:
Just FYI that is incorrect, Artz and Ivan's ROMS are based on an actual BA BEAT build of WM5 that was made by microsoft, that has been patched and edited with later versions of the components, whereas TuMa and Logout's Rom are based on a Wizard ROM.
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I stand corrected... I was under the impression that all the ROM's were 'ported' from different devices, I believe that was the case originally wasn't it?
Midget_1990 said:
Read up, Basically every WM2003SE device has a WM5 Version made for it, however the operators in thier infinate wisdom decided that they didnt want people having WM5 on thier 'old' phones and would rather that people brought new ones.
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Read my post!! WM5 wasn't released when the BA came out, so it was built around WM2003SE, the fact that a ROM became available, albeit not publicly, doesn't mean they redesigned the handset!
Most of you would have upgraded successfully from WM 2003 rom to various WM5 rom. For me, I started using Helmi's 1.30 rom, 1.32 rom, 1.4 and 1.4 vanilla rom, Xplode AKU 3.3 and 3.5, and just on Tuesday, tried Helmi/Logout rom (I choose to call this rom as such as pointed out by Helmi, Logout had used more than 90% of his work).
All the roms are great, but each had given me some problems, due to the fact that I have many programs installed, nothing to blame Helmi, Xplode or Helmi/Logout. All the roms when freshly installed gave me very stable results, i.e. BT and Wifi on off. From Helmi's 1.4 rom, I got to enjoy A2DP. From Xplode's rom, I got to enjoy clean basic BA WM5 rom. From Helmi/Logout rom, A2DP and stable BT and Wifi on off.
This the experience that I want to share, and I hope you will find this useful.
For all the roms so far, what I did was to hard reset, flashed the rom, test that BT and Wifi can on and off, and start installing all my other apps one after another without soft reset, unless the app asks for it. Along the way, I will find that BT and/or Wifi will not start.
With Helmi/Logout rom, I did the same as above. After a number of apps installed, I experience again either BT and/or Wifi problems. Then something hit my mind! Why don't I do a soft reset after each app installation and after that, check for BT and Wifi power on and off. Guess what, I managed to install majority of the apps to my BA and BT and Wifi still powers on without problem. Here's a list of apps I have:
1. PocketZen Phone
2. Pocket Dashboard
3. GPSGate
4. Mapking 7
5. Garmin Que
6. Spb GPRS Monitor
7. Spb Time
8. Spb backup
9. Spb Imageer
10. Resco Explorer
11. Resco Audio Recorder
12. Virtual Pool Mobile
13. Bubble Buster
14. SKTools
15. XCPUScalar
16. GB-Soft Tweak
17. Tengo Thumb
18. Bejeweled
19. Ezdial
20. Lexisgoo English Dictionary
21. psShutXP
22. Styletap Launcher
23. MS VC 1.6
I still have a number of apps that I had not installed but with 23 in and still running fine with BT and Wifi, I'm very satisfied. So I suggest to those who complain about BT and Wifi problem, or any other problem, try what I had done, i.e. do a soft reset after installation of each app and share with others your success.
Hope all of you will find this useful.
Cheers and thanks to Helmi, Xplode and Logout.
Damn, noone figured that out before, that some apps may screw the settings!! :| Gotta do some tests...
So basically we should not bother with preparing an Ext Rom with all the programes we want, and instead Install and Soft Reset each one seperately?
I'll try it next time i flash my rom, thanks!
That was a good share zard!
WiFi now misses firing up in the helmi/logout ROM when it used to be working fine, unfortunately I didn't know which program I installed when it stopped working.
Just some thoughts, if somehow bluetooth/wifi registry settings gets screwed up after prog installation without soft reset, would it help if we change registry file type from hive to file-based? Registry changes gets written immediately each time with file-based, that is what I read somewhere.
Anyway, I really wouldn't mind doing 20+ soft resets just to get that 100% WIFI/BT powering up!
Thanks again!
Fast Battery Drain Problem found
dear all
we Really appricate your post since i have found AKU 3.5,rom 5.04.10wwe
with extend rom Logout 5.04.10 by helmi.
There is Serious issue i have found,Battery Drains in actual Usages for 8hrs.
but may be some fixes may resolve this issue I hope,This rom Very much Stable as i have not checked only WIFi but other applications and third party Softwares does work fine as till now.
after insatlling standarize2.cab and powermanagementpatch_116.cab still this problem not solved for me.
There is One Extreamly diffrent behavior found back light of BA auto swithon if phone is All Keys locked mode or not ,without touching Ba the lights does shows this behavior.May some people has used this rom found this Unique problem till now.
Other problem I found With MS voice Command 1.06 doesnt work with incoming call aleart<other features works perfectly like MENU- profile- music-and etc
I Am very much statsfied with this Rom The most Successful and Stable rom i found Atlast........Thanks to Helmi
Hi Zard
Hi Zard
Thanks for your information, it is very useful.
I am also running on Helmi's / Logout's rom.
I managed to install a lot of programs without affecting BT/WIFI.
I can turn both on / off without a problem. However, I have problem with BT, I can not have two BT devices connected at the same time. When I have my BT headset connected and I try to connect to my BT GPS receiver, it will not work!!
Do you have this problem or do you have a solution for this issue? I did not have this problem on Helmi's 1.4 rom (did not try vanilla though).
Thanks again.
rhmartin said:
That was a good share zard!
WiFi now misses firing up in the helmi/logout ROM when it used to be working fine, unfortunately I didn't know which program I installed when it stopped working.
Just some thoughts, if somehow bluetooth/wifi registry settings gets screwed up after prog installation without soft reset, would it help if we change registry file type from hive to file-based? Registry changes gets written immediately each time with file-based, that is what I read somewhere.
Anyway, I really wouldn't mind doing 20+ soft resets just to get that 100% WIFI/BT powering up!
Thanks again!
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I don't know about what is the difference between registry file type of hive and file-based but whoever knows and can do something about it would be good. Though it was terrible to do so many resets and I guess its worth it after all.
creations_31 said:
dear all
we Really appricate your post since i have found AKU 3.5,rom 5.04.10wwe
with extend rom Logout 5.04.10 by helmi.
There is Serious issue i have found,Battery Drains in actual Usages for 8hrs.
but may be some fixes may resolve this issue I hope,This rom Very much Stable as i have not checked only WIFi but other applications and third party Softwares does work fine as till now.
after insatlling standarize2.cab and powermanagementpatch_116.cab still this problem not solved for me.
There is One Extreamly diffrent behavior found back light of BA auto swithon if phone is All Keys locked mode or not ,without touching Ba the lights does shows this behavior.May some people has used this rom found this Unique problem till now.
Other problem I found With MS voice Command 1.06 doesnt work with incoming call aleart<other features works perfectly like MENU- profile- music-and etc
I Am very much statsfied with this Rom The most Successful and Stable rom i found Atlast........Thanks to Helmi
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I just tested MS VC 1.6 and the incoming call alert seems to work only when Notifications is set as 'Annouce notifications through device speaker or wired headset only'. Probably, the BT is still not perfect but still, I'm more than satisfied with the BT now since A2DP works for Media Player, Mapking 7, Garmin Que and even voice dial through Mic of BT headset and voice instructions from BT headset when you activate MS VC 1.6 through the hardware button. Voice dial won't work through BT headset if MS VC 1.6 is activated from BT headset. I'm using i-Tech Clip radio BT headset.
just yesterday, i had that same old problem of BT not turning on... after countless soft resets after either turning BT on comm manager or BT settings, it still wont turn on. wifi is ok, just the bt. so i gave up and went on my day without BT. and just now, after reading these latest posts, decided to test BT again. and it works fine again! no new app installed, nothing changed. it had also happened in the past. hmmmm got you all thinking again i wonder
how do u guys manage to install application in Helmi AKU 3.4 v1.4? Using EXE or CAB?
i just flahsed mine yesterday and when i try to install CAB...it seems that the application is NOT installed correctly..
Hi all,
can anyone let me know where i can find this rom (Helmi/Logout) and may be some installation instructions ?
Thanks in advance
Chris
have u checked thru the forum?
the link for logout rom is existed inside helmi v1.4 thread too.