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hi i was wondering if there is any way to upgrade my alpine so it can be a 3G phone,thanks
Just as easily as you can upgrade it's camera to a 4.0MP with optical zoom or as easily as you can add FM radio functionality.
...what I'm trying to say is "no." You need different hardware, and that, my friend, is something you can't download and install.
too bad.....
on average how long does it take to install??
Very quick. Five/ten minutes at the most, with the Windows installation app it's really as easy as pie. Stick the phone in the cradle, Run the installation app, it does all the other stuff (it puts your phone into bootloader, flashes each part of the ROM, and then reboots the phone once it's done).
How hard is that! (You say, 'oh, not hard at all,' to which I reply, 'I KNOW!') Understand that it's not some kind of funky custom install, the installation app was one provided for a particular model of HTC by Qtek (I believe), and it was hacked to not look for a particular device ID (allowing use on every phone), and the ROM is just the regular O2 ROM, O2 customised ExtROM and all, just with the upgraded radio stack (unless of course, you download his latest ROMs with the O2 stuff stripped out, which is also possible). The tool will work with any of these roms, all you have to do is follow the step-by-step instructions. Even I could manage it first time round no problems.
My XDAIIi is:
Rom version: 1.11.00WWE
Rom Date: 01/27/05
Radio version: 1.00.00
Protocol version: 1337.39
ExtRom: 1.11.923WWE
If upgrade with pug rom, what difference I will notice from my xdaIIi?
any benefits? where I can download the pug rom?
Thanks I am new to this forum
Well, as you can see from my sig, which is pug's cooked ROM:
Alpine, 1.11.162, 1.04 Radio...
ROM Version: 1.11.00 WWE
ROM date: 01/27/05
Radio version: 1.04.00
Protocol version: 1337.42
ExtROM version: 1.11.162 WWE
That's what you'll get - compare it to what you have at the moment, and you'll see the updates.
The difference in Radio ROM version seems to be just simple upgrades to the sound quality and signal etc. As for the ExtROM, that will depend on which one you choose... some may have just programs/plugins removed (the O2ActiveUI for example) others may have extra program suites added.
If you do upgrade the rom to one of the several cooked ones available on here, go with Pug's ROM which contains the 1.04 radio, the O2 stuff stripped out and the camera 'update' not included - apparently, without the camera update, the picture quality is loads better. I can't be bothered to reflash my 2i all over again and reinstall all my bits and pieces, just to try this out though, but other users report better quality without the O2 'upgrade'.
The O2 stuff is also useless, so get the O2StuffStripped at the very least. The 1.04 radio made a big difference for me (marginal signal before, I had to stand on one leg and put my arm out the window whilst wearing a tinfoil hat to get signal before in my house, but now so long as I'm on the first floor I can get signal! which is a tenfold improvement from before).
I did miss the O2 battery plugin for the Today screen, but I managed to find a seperate install for it on these forums anyway!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26995
That much is true - initially I did too; however, I found that the O2 Plus battery meter is much better (and shows more information in the same pixel space), so I'm happy with that for now.
Whats the difference between the 2 and where would I get the Plus one from? Any chance you could post some screenshots showing the difference?
Would really appreciate it!!!
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O2 Plus battery meter comes part of the O2 Plus application which you can install onto your Alpine (you have to get the patched version which will install on any device as opposed to the device-locked original installer which O2 Asia release for its customers) - just look on the forums for it.
How do you rate the pictures taken by a standart Alpine and by an Alpine using the modified ROM of pug (from 1 to 10, where 10 is the best and say it is a picture taken by a high quality digital camera working at 1.3 Mega pixel)?
If you can reply for indoor and outdoor seperately it will be more helpful.
Cheers.
The first custom rom for the Alpine released onto the forum, and the one I'm using (Modified_XDA_IIi_Upgrade_v1.11.162_Radio_1.04.rar) includes the 'update' which actually makes the camera quality worse. However, once it's on you can't just uninstall it, I found out I'd have to basically hard reset and install the latest ROM which doesn't have the stupid update included.
The ROM you want to use is Alpine_Ext-1.11.162_Radio-1.04_O2stuffstripped_Camera_Fixed.rar - I can't provide you with a quality comparison because I've not used that one (yet), but from what I hear from people who have used it, the quality is much better - much closer to how you'd expect it to be from an (albeit mobile phone, but still) 1.3mpixel camera.
Thank you for the detailed answer.
With all respect, can Pug verify this? Previously it was explained that the only difference between the 2 ROM was one still has O2 stuff in it, the other stripped.
Shouldnt be any difference in camera.
The camera_fixed aspect refers to the removal of a software patch applied to one of the DLLs on the phone used for the camera software - the changes the 'update' makes to the DLL in question actually makes the quality of subsequent images taken MUCH worse. Not installing this patch restores the camera quality to its original (and better) state.
I haven't tried it out myself, this ROM came out just after I'd hard reset and then totally restored my XDA from scratch, and I couldn't be bothered to start over a third time, but from people who have used the camera_fixed ROM, they report that the camera quality is in fact improved.
Alpine_Ext-1.11.162_Radio-1.04_O2stuffstripped_Camera_Fixed.rar by Pug did improve the camera quality, but this only setback was it would downgrade the recording sound quality.
and it didn't strip the O2 stuff imo, still got the o2 logo at start and the GUI thing.
The O2 splash screen can be removed by means of dropping a correctly-formatted image into the root directory of your phone and running a CAB file on your device (again, obtained from this forum) - and bingo, new splash screen.
Because the original image is in the ROM, and nowhere else, I also stripped out the original O2 splash screen from a ROM and posted it on this forum, in case anyone ever wants to sell their device and wipe it clean of all their installed stuff, without having to flash the ROM).
Interesting that you say the O2 GUI stuff is still there... Did you try the corporate install method?
Pug's ROM
I've been reading about pug's ROMs and have found (in the forum) some missing features after installing said ROMs...
These are the band selsctor, and screen rotation icon...
has anybody found out how to restore these?
I haven't tried the ROMs yet because I want to keep these said features after changing the ROM...
regarding the screen rotation icon, is the screenrotate.dll still part of the startup service? Memmaid can show the startup service to check whether it is still there or not. Also, maybe the rotate icon is not showing due to the registry settings?
Has anyone else noticed their wizards missing calls and txts since updating to WM6? It seems to have the same problem that the AKU3.x ROMS have with missed calls, but not as bad. So far I've noticed that I'll miss a call if the phone has been in standby for a couple of hours. Wake it up and phone calls start coming through again. I'm using 2.47 radio from molski's 2.26 final rom, and had no problems with missed calls before I replaced 2.26 with WM6.
WM6 Crossbow + 2.47.11 Radio (Molski.Biz.AKU2.3)
I have on at least one occasion. So I'm not sure if that was a fluke or a similar problem you face. I've got the same setup though, WM6 (Orwells) with the 2.47.11 radio.
I've also noticed weird things with this ROM such as email notifications that are setup to blink the light on the phone amber with no limit and also ding. Sometimes I checked to see that I did get an email according to the Today Screen plug-in, but it never dinged or flashed the amber light. So I will soft reset it and it then it works fine.
Phone did not show missed calls and voicemail indicator does not show either. I called my voicemail and there were a ton on messages.
G3 Tmobile MDA
WM6
2.47.11 Radio Rom
IT HAS BEEN STATED MANY TIMES! That this is a beta rom. There are lots of bugs and problems with these roms. These are not final roms. They were still in testing when they were leaked. From what i have seen and read some people were recommending going with the 2.19 radio rom. i have the 2.26 radio and it works good enough for me here in southern ca. i have had no problems at all. So try flashing with another radio or just switch back to a more stable rom guys. Good luck
Hi
I had same problem but installed 2.19 radio rom and everything is fine. Therefore I say use 2.19 radio rom, works best with AKU 3.3 rom.
FOR ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE USING WM6 !!!! INSTALL RADIO VERSION 2.19 IT IS THE ONLY VERSION THAT WORKS WITH ANY ROM SO DOWNLAOD AND INSTALL IT !!!!! with other radio roms u get missed calls and other problems so the best way to solve is to install radio ROM version 219 this has been discussed in many topics in Farias and molskis ROMS and in WM6 roms threads.
Are you talking about the file "T-Mobile-UK_2.19.11_Radinly.zip" on the FTP site ?
Because I saw indeed strange things with my phone and after reading this post, I checked and saw that I was using radio 2.47.11
i live in an area with a weak signal. in the 2.19 radio my reception is much worse and i have a larger area in which i get no reception at all.
hello, i have the 2.47.11 and no problems. SMS, GPRS, Bluetooth ... Al works perfekt-
regards Sven
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Windows Mobile 6
IPL: 2.26
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 02.47.11
OS: 10.1.0.811 WWE
VPA compact II - vodafone
1x 1GB miniSD
1x 2GB miniSD
Nokia HS-12W A2DP Headset
sreins said:
hello, i have the 2.47.11 and no problems. SMS, GPRS, Bluetooth ... Al works perfekt-
regards Sven
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same with me i think it depends were you live. like me 2.19 doesent work for me i would get dropped calls.
Well. I live in a large metro area so coverage is usually excellent. I don't have problems with missed calls when using AKU2.x ROMs. Its just a prob with AKU3.x and WM6 ROMs. When I played with AKU3.x ROMs, changing the radio ROM didn't make much of a difference. Even so, I went ahead and downgraded the radio to 2.19.11 anyway to see if it makes a difference in WM6. Also, the problem only occurs after the phone has been on standby for a couple of hours or more.
WM6 + 2.19.11 Radio ROM
I wonder if it has to do with GSM 850/1900
I wonder if it has to do w/ different ROM's liking different GSM frequencies. Cingular's (I'm sorry 'the New AT&T') network is so mixed up, it uses a combination of all 3 frequencies. At least T-Mobile's frequencies are consistant throughout their network, but their coverage isn't as good.
grinny11 said:
i live in an area with a weak signal. in the 2.19 radio my reception is much worse and i have a larger area in which i get no reception at all.
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I live in a big city and usually have good coverage. The 2.19.11 radio does have significantly weaker signal reception than the 2.25 or 2.47 radios. Unfortunately I had to make a choice between staying on AKU2.x and using the radio of my choice or going with AKU3.x and sticking with 2.19. Right now I am testing the 2.61 radio and it seems to be working with AKU3.3. I have had 2 calls that went directly to voicemail but I am beginning to think that was just a network fluke and not an issue with the radio. No delayed or missing notifications. All attempts to call my phone are making it to the phone. Testing is still in progress and maybe the issue just hasn't reared its ugly head yet. But I am beginning to be hopeful that I can have my cake (AKU3.3) and eat it too (good radio)
Currently, my radio version is 1.54.07.00.
I tried to flash the other radio rom but the radio version didn't change.
Is there a way to change to 1.54.00 or 1.54.01??
Just curious.
freakmax said:
Currently, my radio version is 1.54.07.00.
I tried to flash the other radio rom but the radio version didn't change.
Is there a way to change to 1.54.00 or 1.54.01??
Just curious.
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Luckily, No
I've used the KaiserCustomRUU (dload from Kaiser thread) and a Hermes Radio ROM (Hermes wiki) and the ones i've tried work fine (the latter ones).
currently using 1.54.30.10 and works a treat (t-mobile uk) - most stable rom i've used on my treo (connectivity/hsdpa).
may sound like a strange way to flash the radio but works for me... (the hermes shares a lot in common with the treo processor/radio wise)
fatality88 said:
I've used the KaiserCustomRUU (dload from Kaiser thread) and a Hermes Radio ROM (Hermes wiki) and the ones i've tried work fine (the latter ones).
currently using 1.54.30.10 and works a treat (t-mobile uk) - most stable rom i've used on my treo (connectivity/hsdpa).
may sound like a strange way to flash the radio but works for me... (the hermes shares a lot in common with the treo processor/radio wise)
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Thanks for the info, i just put in 1.54.30.10 and so far it works, cant tell et if it's an better then the original radio. What do you think? An better better? reception?
is one of the better ones i've tested.
thing is there are so many outside variables (location/time of day/everthing really) that it takes a couple of weeks to fully test the one that suits your area/needs (push mail/hsdpa which I both use heavilly)
have to charge my treo every evening with most of the roms but found the connectivity on this to be the best i've come across - maybe diff in the states.
if only I could go back to GPRS and no push email I could have a battery that lasts 3 days - unfortunately that ain't going to happen..
plus i'm a firm believer of higher version numbers - windows vista excluded
oh yeah,
to answer your question - find reception and data better...
I agree the new Radio 1.54.30.10 is not just better but NOTICABLY BETTER. I have been using the old radios versions at my house and I struggle with no signal to 2 bars to no signal again. Now I get 2 solid bars and sometimes 3 bars. The last phone that I had with great signal like that was the Razr V3.
the new Radio 1.54.30.10
Where can i download the new Radio 1.54.30.10 ?
Thanks...
I found it from Hermes - is it the same?
everytime i hit record it stops at 1second.
when i go look for the video in my documents i see a green picture and it wont play. i cant even play videos i had recorded before this problem occur.
any help?
There could be many factors, but there are many posts about Camera issues. One too many as far as I am concerned try this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387057
More info would help alot. Like have you flashed a new ROM? Radio? Have you changed anything before it started happening. Go to start, settings, system, device information and click on the hardware tab. Does it show Qualcomm 7200 or 7201?
KDKobes said:
There could be many factors, but there are many posts about Camera issues. One too many as far as I am concerned try this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387057
More info would help alot. Like have you flashed a new ROM? Radio? Have you changed anything before it started happening. Go to start, settings, system, device information and click on the hardware tab. Does it show Qualcomm 7200 or 7201?
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i flashed it about 2-3 weeks ago to dutty's WM6.1 WWE
radio version 1.58.16.27
it says QUALCOMM 7201..
it takes pictures, sometimes it let me record but it wont play its just green
And it's only 1 second, or are you saying it's just a short recording?
well now for some reason it records more than 1 second..
i was reading that it had something to do with Dutty's rom.
should i just flash to another rom..
what do u recommend?
Your best bet is to read dutty's ROM thread.
so i been reading for hours and can get my camera to work
inow flashed it to [Apr 29] Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700
and my camera now doesnt work at all.i get a black screen and it lags.i was reading that i must downgrade my radio..but how do i know to whic radio i must downgrade?no sound on my phone either
currently
Radio Versiom 1.58.16.27
Qualcomm 7200
HECZAR said:
so i been reading for hours and can get my camera to work
inow flashed it to [Apr 29] Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700
and my camera now doesnt work at all.i get a black screen and it lags.i was reading that i must downgrade my radio..but how do i know to whic radio i must downgrade?no sound on my phone either
currently
Radio Versiom 1.58.16.27
Qualcomm 7200
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Sounds like a radio issue, try flashing the one that is in my signature.
KDKobes said:
Sounds like a radio issue, try flashing the one that is in my signature.
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thanks your a life saver
im back to normal