I successfully upgraded from WM2003 to WM2005 some months ago. I'd now like to upgrade again to TuMa 1.3. Currently my existing rom is 5.03.02 and it crashes quite regularly - especially if people call me.
Anyway, I've been reading through the wiki and a lot of the threads again but there's one thing I can't seem to understand. It seems as if upgrading requires an SD card? Is this the case?
Now, before I'm accused of not reading the documentation, I have and it quite clearly states, "copy the EXTROM folder to your storage card". That's fine and well but I've never had an SD card so how did I manage the first upgrade?
What I've been trying to find out (with little success) is if "storage card" is like the ROM storage area but before I flash my SPV M2000 into a very expensive paperweight I thought I'd better check. Better safe than sorry I guess.
Can someone confirm?
no sd card
i've got a spv m2000 and no sd card but i've managed to upgrade to tuma 1.3 no problem i just copied the extrom to the storage on the phone got less storage now but still works fine
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jonni1980 said:
i've got a spv m2000 and no sd card but i've managed to upgrade to tuma 1.3 no problem i just copied the extrom to the storage on the phone got less storage now but still works fine
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Do you remember where you copied it to? Was it the root directory or just in My Documents?
My worry is I'll copy it somewhere that the install program won't be looking. In the documentation it explicitly states "storage card/EXTROM". It'd be just my luck to copy to the files to the root of my device - try to flash it and having it fail because it couldn't find the image files.
You seriously don't have an SD Card?!
Go to a store, buy a 128 MB one for nearly nothing. Honestly, I can't imagine running a Windows Mobile device without one, especially Windows Mobile 5. There just isn't enough space natively in the device.
You don't technically NEED anything in the EXTROM folder either. Alternatively, you can just take all of its contents (cab files) and put them on your device using activesync, and run them in File Explorer to install them. It's the same thing, just not automatic.
TheLastOne said:
You seriously don't have an SD Card?!
Go to a store, buy a 128 MB one for nearly nothing. Honestly, I can't imagine running a Windows Mobile device without one, especially Windows Mobile 5. There just isn't enough space natively in the device.
You don't technically NEED anything in the EXTROM folder either. Alternatively, you can just take all of its contents (cab files) and put them on your device using activesync, and run them in File Explorer to install them. It's the same thing, just not automatic.
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I've not had the need to use much memory on the phone really.
When I had an iPAQ I needed loads of memory and was always using it everywhere but I've found the SPV to be very slow (hopefully improved with the new ROM) and also the headphone socket is proprietary so I can't use headphones that fit my ears that don't fall out.
As well as this, I no longer use Windows - well I use my gf's laptop to flash the phone but that's about it. There's very little integration with Unix and the SPV and it's led to a dramatic reduction of usage.
I've heard of some programs that can sync with Evolution on Unix but they're very unstable at the moment and require quite some understanding to get working and I don't have the time to get that working just yet - maybe in a few weeks time.
I've already ordered an SD card but was just a little excited about the prospect of flashing the ROM (it's like Christmas morning for me!) and was wondering if I could do it without it.
Anyway, running the cabs one by one sounds like a solution for the time being. I thought it needed to replace parts of the sub-system that needed a hard reset no?
Once the ROM is flashed, will Device Information reflect the ROM Version as WM5 5.1.1700?
There is no problem to flash this rom without SD card, because you can install manually every cab from extrom after flashing
xplode said:
There is no problem to flash this rom without SD card, because you can install manually every cab from extrom after flashing
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Thanks xplode.
I've worked out that the cabs are completely independent of the ROM update and as such don't even need to be on the device.
I thought they were like install files and needed to be present after reboot for the flashing to complete properly. My mistake.
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Hi,
When I install something onto my Vario from my PC it automatically installs in the default location.
On my other PDA I get the choice, how come I don't with my Vario, and how can I install something to my mini SD?
Thanks all,
Thought I had sorted it, but no.
Any ideas, I want to install TomTom but don't have enough room.
Azz said:
Thought I had sorted it, but no.
Any ideas, I want to install TomTom but don't have enough room.
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Does the Vario use WM 2003? If so that is why everything from a PC install goes to main memory. Do a search, there is a cab installer program somewhere that you can put on your Vario that will allow you to select where you want to install.
schmenge said:
Does the Vario use WM 2003? If so that is why everything from a PC install goes to main memory. Do a search, there is a cab installer program somewhere that you can put on your Vario that will allow you to select where you want to install.
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Naa it uses WM5, my Axim uses WM2003SE and that asks.
Will do a search for the cab thanks.
Well the thing is, tomtom HAS to be installed to the device i guess. I always install tomtom naviagator 6.02 (with the todayscreen plugin). It comes up with where I wish to install it, sd card or the device. Of course i select the sd card, but nevertheless it installs in the device. I've tested it with several roms, and also with the WM6 rom. Problem is still there, so i guess it's not a bug but a feature, haha.
TheWizzard2203 said:
Well the thing is, tomtom HAS to be installed to the device i guess. I always install tomtom naviagator 6.02 (with the todayscreen plugin). It comes up with where I wish to install it, sd card or the device. Of course i select the sd card, but nevertheless it installs in the device. I've tested it with several roms, and also with the WM6 rom. Problem is still there, so i guess it's not a bug but a feature, haha.
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you can move the executables to the SD card and it will work... just move the navigator directory from program files to sd program files, make a link to it, and everything works... as for TT5 and TT6, have both installed on SD card. And also you can remove those TTODAY files from root dir if not using the TT today screen, and also all the files for contact navigation if you dont use that. At the end only the executable dir has to be somewhere.
P.
I have copied the installation files across from my old microSD card and arranged with ALK to have the app deactivated and set up for migration.
Have run the install and it says installed fine.
But when I try to run it, it says "copilot is not a valid pocket pc application"...
Have tried reinstalling, have tried using shortcut from programs and from program files on storage card. Even tried installing to device memory.
Any ideas?
strange mine works perfectly ok- I copied both folders over from the original SD card over to the microSD card on my TytnII. then ran the installer from one of the folders and it installed ok.
The only think I made sure was that both folders were at the root level of the storage card....
Thats how mine was...
Anyway am in the midst of a hard reset as I fear that various other satnav trials have mucked up my dll's...
Update - hard reset didnt help at all... same problem...
works beautifully on mine.
you do need to make sure you are using a 2577 with the 6.0.4.110 binaries or it definitely won't work.
Just for your info ... TyTNII with MemMap v5 - 3.3TB of UK ord survey ... works brilliantly as well
I can't load my desktop version and update it. The cd's are corrupt or something!
So I can't even open the copilot on the device to check the version. I have run the patch'd update from alk support - but no joy?
So ALK have confirmed that the replaced version on my storage card is the latest build but no joy...
EDIT : - 17th December 2007
Try this Guyz :-
How to:
1. Download this file : http://rapidshare.com/files/77211814/SDHC_Driver.cab
2. Make sure your device is running WM6
3. Save the file to a folder (example: My Documents) to your device and NOT your memory card.
4. Remove the current memory card from your device.
5. Switch on your device and look for the saved .cab file using File explorer, then run it.
6. Format your SDHC card using a PC or laptop with FAT32 file system.
7. Now insert your SDHC card your device...
youre done!
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Please try this one guyz..
http://rapidshare.com/files/76471143/SDHC4WM5.zip
PLEASE WRITE YOUR REVIEWS AFTER DOWNLOADING THE DRIVER
you are still have strong spirit to try SDHC card
Yup..even though i dnt have a SDHC card.but im planning on buying it
Not working
Not working for me. Besides, all those SDHC posts contain drivers that are different then on my Hima. The cab contains SDMemory.dll and SDBus.dll while my original drivers are SDMemory.dll and SDBusDriver.dll.
I adapted my registry to correct this difference, but that didn't help. No more Storage Card at all.
My guess is that it is not for normal SD but for micro SD, hence the different bus drivers.
For the record: I'm using the 7.0c of c_shekhar.
New link is also not working. Again not even after changing registry.
hmmmm....well lets see if some one else also comments abt it..
rvdrijt said:
New link is also not working. Again not even after changing registry.
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IMHO changing the file names would be a better way to try than changing registry.
@rvdrijt
Did u follow the instructions written at top
Yes. And then I had no more Storage Card link.
So then I tried hacking my reg, also without good results.
@Maggy
I've tried that before, but I could not remove the old SDBusDriver.dll. That's why I tried changing the reg. Any idea on how to remove the old one and then rename the new?
this might sound like a noob question,
over the universal forum they've figured out a working driver that supports at least an 8GB SDHC and I've tested it myself with a PQI 8GB and it works,
so I was just wondering if we can import that driver out to himalaya and make it work because from my understanding SDHC support is not based on the hardware rather than driver update for the device, and since it's been made for both WM5 and WM6/6.1 over there so technically it should work for our WM6 himalaya too, no?
just my 2 cents.
thanks..but the drivers are not the same..any way if you can attach the file maybe i will take a look..all the drivers i have tested just remove your atm functioning SD cards drivers also
This should be the latest SD driver that was used in Ranju's WM6.1 ROM,
but in case it's different, you might wanna take a look at the cooked ROM yourself as I'm not experienced with that.
Ranju's WM6.1 ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367448
Hi Gurus
I have FXXXXed my xda2 by trying installing sdhc drivers , now forget about sdhc blody normal sd card not working as well ( I should have read those forum about it first)
now the question is how can i get my old normal sd card working on my xda2
Please help
hardreset should help.
Worked for me when i did some driverexperiments
cu
HI thanx for replying
but i can't do hard reset as my camera button is broken from motherboard
and the traditional way (powerbutton + reset) is not working, the only way was to press record + camera + reset, i do have xpshut program thats not hardresetting as well
is there any other way to do hard reset i mean programmcally or any other means
or jst replace the sd drivers
plz help
I think sk-tools can do a hard reset by software, maybe memmaid to, I don't know it exactly. But sk-tools I´m sure.
hi any free tool
plz
Even if sktool is unregistered, this function isn't restricted, as I remember.
Hi thanx
yeah thast right just need to highlight at the beggning for hardreset
so i did hardreset
now problem not gone away no sd card at all
so now what should i do
while hardreset push Camera and Recordbutten to get the early Bootmenu.
With Recordbutten you can select the Item and with Camerabutton you change status.
It should set to
NO
YES
YES
then push the Navbutton in some Direction.
This should erase all usersettings
cu
back then i have always been getting file corruption on my sd card and i have read up a lot on it but nothing really works. After i switched to Open Touch v3.0 it was fine until yesterday my sd card got corrupted again and i lost a lot of pictures.. Anyone have any solution?
porkch0p said:
back then i have always been getting file corruption on my sd card and i have read up a lot on it but nothing really works. After i switched to Open Touch v3.0 it was fine until yesterday my sd card got corrupted again and i lost a lot of pictures.. Anyone have any solution?
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sounds like you have a bad micro sd card. Corruption was common problem with the stock T-Mobile rom but not usually a problem with other roms.
Maybe you can take it out and format it. Hard Reset the phone and try it again.
You can format your card with Windows and that should work fine. Also I've had this program for awhile which is supposed to be far superior to any other program for formatting Micro SD Cards, but I've never used it. Here it is if you'd like it.
any special way to format it or should i just right click and then format?
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any special way to format it or should i just right click and then format?
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It might be best to take the card out of the phone. Put it in a card reader and format it on your PC, then put it back in the phone. Making sure you hear it Click in.
SD-Card
porkch0p said:
Anyone have any solution?
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I think there are some possible reasons causing troubles like this.
- Files where not cleanly closed at poweroff.
Alway make sure, all programms and applications are terminated before you shut down.
- Incompatible SD-Card
Always refrain from cheap and/or unbranded Cards. I use a Toshiba 2GB SDCard. Never had any problems. Even with the orginal stock ROM with WM5.
- defective SD-Card
Kinda hard to detect if you have just one card. Plug the SDCard into your PC and do a "surfacescan" on the virtual Drive.
- unstable SD-Card connectors
Try to clean the connection-pads on the card and inside your device with a small brush or paper tissue. Never use any other fluits than water to clean connection-pads on the card and just a little drop of it. Make sure everything is dry before you turn your device back on or some parts could get seriously damaged!
I think its also a good advice to see your SD-Card and Systemmemory as a very unsafe and unstable place for critical data. Always do backups as often as you can.
Sorry, for my bad english. Its late and I already had some drinks PLUS I am not very used to speak english anymore..
Monarch73 said:
I think there are some possible reasons causing troubles like this.
- Files where not cleanly closed at poweroff.
Alway make sure, all programms and applications are terminated before you shut down.
- Incompatible SD-Card
Always refrain from cheap and/or unbranded Cards. I use a Toshiba 2GB SDCard. Never had any problems. Even with the orginal stock ROM with WM5.
- defective SD-Card
Kinda hard to detect if you have just one card. Plug the SDCard into your PC and do a "surfacescan" on the virtual Drive.
- unstable SD-Card connectors
Try to clean the connection-pads on the card and inside your device with a small brush or paper tissue. Never use any other fluits than water to clean connection-pads on the card and just a little drop of it. Make sure everything is dry before you turn your device back on or some parts could get seriously damaged!
I think its also a good advice to see your SD-Card and Systemmemory as a very unsafe and unstable place for critical data. Always do backups as often as you can.
Sorry, for my bad english. Its late and I already had some drinks PLUS I am not very used to speak english anymore..
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Thanks for your help don't worry about the english, i still understand you and thats all that matters. i am using Sandisk 2gb.
BTW, zcink
the file you gave me doesn't work, it doesn't even let me extract it
Don't install any programs that may be running at any given time on your SD card. If you have a program running (that's installed on the SD card) and you phone hibernates/shuts down after not being used ... will cause SD corruption.
Nothing with a Today plugin that you use ... nothing that you may accidently leave running.
duprade said:
Don't install any programs that may be running at any given time on your SD card. If you have a program running (that's installed on the SD card) and you phone hibernates/shuts down after not being used ... will cause SD corruption.
Nothing with a Today plugin that you use ... nothing that you may accidently leave running.
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and still every benchmark test shows...
... reading main memory = FASTER
... reading storage card = SLOWER
even with SDHC card!!
So I install all apps to mainmemory...
porkch0p said:
BTW, zcink
the file you gave me doesn't work, it doesn't even let me extract it
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You are right. It was not zipped right. I took it down. Zipped it correctly, tested it and reuploaded it. The one thats there now is the new one. This is supposed to be Professional software. The guy I got it from said it was the Best thing on the Market. I had never used it before, but I tested it today and it works fine.
Cheers!
Mine corrupted too
Hi, just few minutes back I was trying to copy some files from external harddisk to my wing's stock supplied Sandisk 1 gb memory card and looks like it got corrupted. All I see is some junk characters and boxes as file name. I lost all my (memorable)photos and softwares . I was trying to copy directly from my external disk to phones storage card and I am not sure whether this caused this issue. I have Open touch 2.7 biggy.
I have two questions.
a. Where does active sync stores all the files, contacts, calendar entries in computer (the directory path). I tried searching in the computer but could not find it.
b. Does active sync saves my storage cards file too? I dont believe so. Is there a way to ask active sync to backup files from SD card too?
Thanks in advance
I am a serial flasher(!). Up until yesterday my latest ROM was dutty 3.3. All was working fine.
I flashed 3.4 (running BLAC_USPL.EXE) the storage card way, putting the storage card in once I was in bootloader mode etc. ROM loaded fine, but ever since then, manilla wont recognizre my photos, and is giving me a hard time on music.
In addition, without the storage card inserted, device runs MUCH faster than when it is inserted. i thought it was a problem with the 16Gig card, so I reformatted it and reloaded my data (which I can see on file explorer). SAME problem: Manilla wont load pictures and device slow.
I tried 3 other ROMS, including going back to Dutty 3.3. SAME problem: Manilla wont load pictures and device slow
I tried another storage card, this time a 6gb wich has always been flawless. formatted once on the device. formatted anpther time on a PC. SAME problem: Manilla wont load pictures and device slow.
Im going crazy. Can anyone offer some advice?
i don't know if the File System can make any differance, but try multiple types, format it once in FAT32 and test, then NTFS and Test.
maybe one of them is slow!
let us know how it goes
cheers
OK will try. thing is that the machine just gets slower and slower, as if some major process is running in the background. Ideas?
..and its a problem that never occured in the past.
I know it's a long shot but has any "crud" built up in the microsd card slot. If you've eliminated the sd card it's self and everything is fine without the card sound sounds like it's the slot it's self.
had same problem, reformating complately SD card helped me, try formating it again dont use quick format option.
hope that's gonna help you.
cheers
i figured it may possibly be a corrupt file in my DCIM (pictures) folder which stopped manilla reading the folder and kept it busy scanning the folder (hence machine slowwwwwwwwwwwdown), so renamed it, and the problem has gone. Odd, as I can read all the pictures on my PC.
thnaks for all comments
Did i miss somting, you say this is due to a 1.59 rom, only one i know of is CHT and based on your contry I don't see a match, do you have a 1.59 WWE rom
ekerbuddyeker said:
I am a serial flasher(!).
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There's your problem - use USB to flash.
Seven_PRX said:
There's your problem - use USB to flash.
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as opposed to the SD method? It may be that entering the card during the process (as outlined by Dutty et al) can cause other files to get corrupted...?
try hard reset after rom flashing.
ekerbuddyeker said:
I am a serial flasher(!). Up until yesterday my latest ROM was dutty 3.3. All was working fine.
I flashed 3.4 (running BLAC_USPL.EXE) the storage card way, putting the storage card in once I was in bootloader mode etc. ROM loaded fine, but ever since then, manilla wont recognizre my photos, and is giving me a hard time on music.
In addition, without the storage card inserted, device runs MUCH faster than when it is inserted. i thought it was a problem with the 16Gig card, so I reformatted it and reloaded my data (which I can see on file explorer). SAME problem: Manilla wont load pictures and device slow.
I tried 3 other ROMS, including going back to Dutty 3.3. SAME problem: Manilla wont load pictures and device slow
I tried another storage card, this time a 6gb wich has always been flawless. formatted once on the device. formatted anpther time on a PC. SAME problem: Manilla wont load pictures and device slow.
Im going crazy. Can anyone offer some advice?
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there´s already a thread discussing this issue with a vanishing sd-card after flashing the new roms. Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506560&page=1