do i need to unlock the extended rom ? - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading

do i need to unlock the extended rom in order to change the bootimage?
it looks not since the post doesn't explict say so. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=66133#66133
very comfused!!!!!
if the new boot images are not write into extended rom, i believe
they will be lost after hard-reset. is not't it? how could i avoid this?/
thanks!

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CE and Radio ROM update only, no extended ROM, how please?

I want to keep all the O2 stuffs intact, is it possible to update only the CE and Radio ROM but not the extended ROM? I know the procedures I think, and I just need to delete ms_.nbf before running BaUpgradeUt? Will my O2 extended ROM stays intact this way?
How much better is 1.06.2 Radio ROM better than 1.02? Is it worth the update?
And after the update, I should just restore DATA but not full restore right?? Also, do I have to disable ActiveSyn before the update? If so, how?
Sorry about so many questions
Think ur ext rom will be blank this way
CL55
My answer to your question would be
Unhide the extened rom as is
unlock extenedrom as is now
make a copy of it as in on your desktop
do the normal upgrade
unlock/unhide the new extended rom
delete the content
copy from the destop your old extenedrom
lock/hide the exteneded rom again
do a cold reset.
this will boot the device, reinstall the os and radio and install the old extenedrom.
Do I think that that is a good idea, NO!! but that is what you want to do.
You need to undersatnd that some of the stuff on extened rom is for the new upgrade such as the patches.
So ... not that you asked ... I think what you want to do is swap only some of the files. but do you know which ones?
Read the bit on unllocking the Imate extenede rom
Read the bit about changing boot imaages.
Think about what you realy wont to do and have fun.
pleun, says:
Think ur ext rom will be blank this way
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but it's not true. I've done that and your Extended ROM is not deleted
so:
1. You chose the ROM you want to use it (and you use xda3nbftool.exe if the ROM comes from another operator than yours)
2. Before launching the ROM installer "BaUpgradeUt.exe", you remove the Extended ROM package which is call "ms_.nbf"
and you update your ROM normally
Only the CE ROM and Radio will be upgraded. Your Blue Angel will keep your old Extended ROM.
And remember: If the ROM you have chosen comes in a package like BA_WWE_BelDT_12200_557_10602_SHIP.exe, you can open the ifile with WinRAR to extract its contents.
Simple solutions for a simple world!
ArtZ
True, only Qestion I have is why did I not Know that before?
Yup its simple and it works.
Now a real qestion for you based on you own knowleage.
Is there any way to add a Romkitchen Exteneded rom to the upgrade?
We seem to have know tools for this er2003edit does not work for me on the blueangle.
I have not been able to find any way of extracting splash screens but am able to replacing then (which is great but I dont have the original splashes)
Things are not only you know, your ways are not always the best.

ERROR: ITWriteDisk - An internal error occurred.

Okay, I have searched the forums, to no avail. I also no longer have the .bin files generated when I first ran lokiwiz, they were accidentally deleted by another individual who rebuilt a box before I had a chance to pull them off.
So basically, I am screwed, every command I try with lokiwiz or awizard results in the following errors
ps, I am trying to restore the original 8125 image, I have a functioning device, but I want to restore it.
...
CopyFileToTFFS(cidunlocked.bin:0, 0, 00010000)
ERROR: ITWriteDisk - An internal error occurred.
result=80072746
[19:15:05.84] Your phone is now CID unlocked....
Store the generated 'lock_backup.bin' file in a safe place. It can help to resto
re your device if anything goes wrong.
* Press [Enter] to continue
I'm having the same issue on a unit with the K-JAM_WWE_216901_2169101_020710_ship ROM....
I'm having the same issue on a unit with the K-JAM_WWE_216901_2169101_020710_ship ROM too.
lot's of people have that problem, whit that specific rom :S
me too, but there does not seem to be a solution yet...
for te topicstarter: flas another rom on your device and lokiwizard will work again
lokiwizard refuses to work, even after flashing the latest imate rom to it (although I am using the imate rom installer application), I guess I could try the ruu tool ..... ??
flash back to t-mobile rom, unlock it an flash back again to imate
I have no problems flashing to the imate rom, thats what I am running at the moment. Using the imate rom, I cannot run awizard or lokiwizard.
Johannus said:
flash back to t-mobile rom, unlock it an flash back again to imate
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Is that possible?
From what I gathered, if you flash it to the iMate rom, the Extended rom portion becomes locked to the iMate Extended rom. You can't even reflash it back. Until someone comes out with a version of the full iMate rom with an unlocked Extended, or breaks up the iMate rom into GSM, OS, and Extended and you do it manually, I think it is impossible.
Or I could be totally wrong.
fuzzycuffs said:
I think it is impossible.
Or I could be totally wrong.
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i think you are... cause i did it myself
and for the topicstarer: i know you cant use awizard nor lokiwiz, but if you flash your original T-mobile rom back, just like i did, then use awizard or lokiwiz to unlock the SIM and the CID. and after that flash the imate rom on your device again, your problem will also be solved!
Johannus said:
fuzzycuffs said:
I think it is impossible.
Or I could be totally wrong.
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i think you are... cause i did it myself
and for the topicstarer: i know you cant use awizard nor lokiwiz, but if you flash your original T-mobile rom back, just like i did, then use awizard or lokiwiz to unlock the SIM and the CID. and after that flash the imate rom on your device again, your problem will also be solved!
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Alright, then answer me this:
Can you take the iMate full rom, do that flash, and just then flash the TMO extended rom on top of that, so upon a hard reset it'll have the iMate GSM and OS roms, but then go through the stock TMO Extended rom updates (one of which will kill wifi)?
If so, that answers my question of going back to "bone stock." That's my concern with flashing to the iMate rom: 1) having a locked extended rom that I may or may not be able to revert back from, and 2) being able to go back to how the phone looked coming out of the box.
fuzzycuffs said:
Johannus said:
fuzzycuffs said:
I think it is impossible.
Or I could be totally wrong.
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i think you are... cause i did it myself
and for the topicstarer: i know you cant use awizard nor lokiwiz, but if you flash your original T-mobile rom back, just like i did, then use awizard or lokiwiz to unlock the SIM and the CID. and after that flash the imate rom on your device again, your problem will also be solved!
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Alright, then answer me this:
Can you take the iMate full rom, do that flash, and just then flash the TMO extended rom on top of that, so upon a hard reset it'll have the iMate GSM and OS roms, but then go through the stock TMO Extended rom updates (one of which will kill wifi)?
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No, but you (1) don't have to and (2) DON'T WANT TO, as some of the T-Mobile CABs will kill things in the new release AND they're inferior anyway (the connection button is one of them!)
In fact, unless you want the OZIm client and the "SMS email triggers" you need to load only TWO of the T-Mo US CABs on top of the Imate ROM (by hand) to get full functionality. No problems with this approach at all (of course you don't get the T-Mo pukie home screen this way, but I don't want it anyway!)
I posted in one of the other threads where you asked this how to accomplish it.
If so, that answers my question of going back to "bone stock." That's my concern with flashing to the iMate rom: 1) having a locked extended rom that I may or may not be able to revert back from, and 2) being able to go back to how the phone looked coming out of the box.
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Going back to how the phone looked out of the box is easy if you have an SD image of the original T-Mobile ROM and an SD card. No problem with that at all - as I've noted here repeatedly I have TESTED this and it works fine.
So let me get this straight, to get past the locked extended rom imate creates, I need to flash to tmobile to be able to flash bac the original cingular rom? Ah well, guess I gan stay with the imate rom till cingular releases an official rom release

Cingular 8125: Unlock / upgrade of rom.

Hello,
Im rahter new to the forums, but ive been reading on this forum, and cingular's, that for Cingular 8125 users with occasional freezes, and minor stability issues, that a rom upgrade seems to fix the problems... Not to mention, the added things such as new com manager, etc... All things i need and want.
My quesiton is this... Im new to unlocking phones, and need to know what to do so that I can unlock, and upgrade my rom.
Is there a decent breakdown on how to do this? I did a bit of looking and I found the common rom that everyone is upgrading too, but i dont see the 'how to unlock' or whatever is necessary to do such..
Help appreciated!
Thanks.
The below URL has all the instructions to unlock your cingular 8125 phone. I hae personally tried it out it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33796&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Okay. Yeah i had found that, but my quesiton entails more of, not so much as how to unlock the CID, but quesitons such as (and its my fault that i didnt explain myself):
Is the CID really necessary to backup? And I need a MiniSD to back it up, correct?
After unlocking, i just run the installer for the new firmware right?
Tnx.
When I ran the unlock utility it created a backup file on the PC rather than the phone, So I dont think we need a SD card.
But was that a CID backup?
Even though i dont think i will ever be restoring it, i sitll want to be safe...
It created two files lock_backup.bin and unlocked.bin. I am asuming lock_backup.bin is the file that has the backup of lock code

Corrupt Extended ROM

My extended ROM has become corrupted somehow and reports that it is filled with files reaching up to 90GB. Is there a way to flash the Extended ROM on its own like you can with radios and if so is there a blank image I could use to flash it with?
I have tried deleting the corrupt entries after unlocking the ExtROM but to no avail. I do not wish to flash an entire new ROM for many reasons.
Actually don't worry, I found an extended ROM and installer on the ftp and used that combined with the Italian flasher as my ROM is WM6. However I'm still curious to know if there is a blank EXTROM available anywhere?
neonkoala said:
Actually don't worry, I found an extended ROM and installer on the ftp and used that combined with the Italian flasher as my ROM is WM6. However I'm still curious to know if there is a blank EXTROM available anywhere?
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Out of curiousity, do you have a G3 or G4 device ? Reason I am asking is as far as I knew, G4 devices never flashed the extended rom due to a security issue.
G4.
I found the cause, it seems to be that I unlock the ROM and it gives it a horrible name with a 2 on the end so I play around with the registry to set it to something nicer and that seems to corrupt the contents.
In answer to my original question about the blank extended ROM I successfully cooked my own using Faria's great tutorial and flashed that. No corruption yet!
neonkoala said:
In answer to my original question about the blank extended ROM I successfully cooked my own using Faria's great tutorial and flashed that. No corruption yet!
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Care to share it ? I have tried several times to clean out my extended rom to no avail.
cptcafne said:
Care to share it ? I have tried several times to clean out my extended rom to no avail.
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if you havent got one yet, let me know and i will send you a blank one.
faria said:
if you havent got one yet, let me know and i will send you a blank one.
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That would be great, but would it load ? You know the issue I have had with getting extended roms to load. (this is also lorddarkshade on MSN)
Here is the completely empty Extended ROM image.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Wizard/Extended_Roms/CompletelyBlankExtROM.rar
neonkoala said:
Here is the completely empty Extended ROM image.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Wizard/Extended_Roms/CompletelyBlankExtROM.rar
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Thanks. I tried loading it, went through to 100%, rebooted and I still have a corrupted ext_rom. 8125 G4 CID unlocked.
Perhaps uninstalling the extended rom unlocker cab then flashing and then reinstalling will decorrupt it.
maybe you have a corrupted partition table of disk1 and bootloader and OS have problems accessing it?
mestrini said:
maybe you have a corrupted partition table of disk1 and bootloader and OS have problems accessing it?
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ERP? And how would one go about fixing this ?
cptcafne said:
ERP? And how would one go about fixing this ?
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Reflash the OS and perhaps bootloader along with an extended rom all in one shot might work.

flashing to a new rom

Hi all i am new to this got my first HTC Touch HD today
looking at the roms theres a few i like just got a few questions.
what is the best to use HSPL or USPL?
will flashing a new rom mess up my sim lock?
When it says donate whast the normal to donate? dont want to give to little
thanks about it
Thanks
Jonathan Hemmings
HSPL sits in ur rom permanently whereas USPL opens the loop once. That means flashing each time u need to use USPL
U need to read this guide fully to understand and make ur choice
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
People donate as low as US$ 5 whereas donating US$ 10 is a good amount to start with. Flash different rom's and make ur choice which author u like more. Then u can donate a higher amount if u like that author's creation. I am a big fan of Energy's pheonix rom.
Regarding SIM lock. Flashing rom doesnt mess with ur SIM lock or unlock feature and if ur sim is locked u can open it with olipro's tool. Try searching it in the forum.
It all depends on u what flashing method u choose, how much u donate and which rom meets ur needs....
Welcome to XDA and have a great time here.
BEWARE: Flashing ur phones makes ur phone look much cooler and sexier and u will madly fall in love with ur Touch HD once u find ur perfect rom
HAVE A GREAT STAY....
Thanks for the info mate
one thing i cant get my head round is the USPL and HSPL it say that HSPL is permanent but then it says once you have done it you can flash as ment times as you like ?? i am a little confused.
with the USPL if the battery dies or you take your battery out will it lose the rom?
Thanks
Jonathan Hemmings
also is there a way of making a copy of the rom that is on my phone now just incase i did not get on with any of them and i wanted to go back to this one?
thanks again
hemmjonny said:
one thing i cant get my head round is the USPL and HSPL it say that HSPL is permanent but then it says once you have done it you can flash as ment times as you like ?? i am a little confused.
with the USPL if the battery dies or you take your battery out will it lose the rom?
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HSPL is one written to the handset. USPL isn't written to the handset, the files are sent to the handset when used and it loads another SPL on top of the existing one which is lost when the handset is rebooted (i.e. when the ROM has been installed).
I personally use USPL so I can keep the stock SPL as installed by HTC. Some prefer the HSPL as they don't have to use USPL everytime they want to flash.
I'd probably start with USPL and if you find you flash more often, change to HSPL. Apparently though, HSPL provides more protection against a bad flash - unsure what it does though as I've never used it
It doesn't matter what SPL you use though, once a ROM is flashed to the phone, it stays there until you flash another.
hemmjonny said:
also is there a way of making a copy of the rom that is on my phone now just incase i did not get on with any of them and i wanted to go back to this one?
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I'm unsure of any way to backup an existing ROM. I'd take a look on HTC's website as they may have an updated stock ROM available for download. I keep that one as my stock ROM to revert to after a couple of custom ROM flashes.
hemmjonny said:
Thanks for the info mate
one thing i cant get my head round is the USPL and HSPL it say that HSPL is permanent but then it says once you have done it you can flash as ment times as you like ?? i am a little confused.
with the USPL if the battery dies or you take your battery out will it lose the rom?
Thanks
Jonathan Hemmings
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Factory SPL is preventing you to flash any ROM made for another region or another language. Sometimes there are specific ROMs, made by HTC for certain providers, and SPL takes care to allow you only to flash an official upgrade for the same provider or the same region.
If you wish to flash a cooked ROM, you need to circumvent this protection in the SPL.
USPL makes a loophole in your existing SPL and it will allow flashing (now I see jonifen has explained it better). However, that loophole will disappear after the hard reset. Whenever you decide to flash another ROM, yo'll have to repeat USPL. The advantage is that you keep your official SPL.
HSPL is completely replacing your SPL with a new one, and the new one is slightly changed by OliNex: it always let you flash any ROM you want.
Hard reset will not affect it, as hard resets do not replace or wipe the ROM, SPL or the radio, they only wipe all your data and all 3rd party applications installed by you.
Thanks for all the info i am now flashing i have gone for HSPL as my phone is out of warranty + its lots easier + more stable from what i have read on here.
Thanks again for all your help
Jonathan

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