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I have been pulling my hair out trying to figure out what the heck is going on my my MDA's and hope someone here can help.
A few weeks ago my MDA (8 months old) started to only connect to Cingular's cellular system and would actually make a phone call 1 out of 5 attempts. When trying to dial a number it would drop all signal and then go into a searching loop for a few minutes before connecting back to Cingular. This was with the 2.26 custom ROM from this forum.
I called tech support from Tmobile and they sent me a replacement. This unit came with 1.08 and worked for maybe two days before starting the same problem. I then tried the custom 2.26 ROM and the official 2.26 from Tmobile with no luck. Last week I went to a Tmobile store and explained my situation and the store manager gave me a brand new MDA (G3). Everything worked great until I decided to flash to the Tmobiles 2.26 ROM yesterday and all hell broke loose. My the MDA connects to Cingular again and can go hours just searching for signal.
My wife has a MDA with the custom 2.26 ROM and does not have any issues. I can switch SIM's and the problem stays with the MDA. The only thing is I can not go into the phone settings and manaully connect to Tmobile. When it works (doesn't tell me it can find a network and to disconnect the data connection even though there isn't one) I see two Cingulars in the network selection box.
Has anyone else experienced this problem or is something getting screwed up when I CID unlock the phone?
No one has experienced this problem? I have a third MDA on its way but interested in finding out the actual problem.
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Have you looked at the selection?
Settings/Connections/Connections/Advanced/Select Networks
Is T-Mobile there? Is Cingular ahead of it? If not, does it have the problem in other areas? It may be connecting to Cingular because it is stronger.
One other thought, try the 2.47 radio rom. My MDA (which doesn't have your difficulty) has worked much better. It won't overwrite your files to flash it.
I have had the same MDA for about 6 months, unlocked twice, with the older 1.8, and the newer 2.26 T-Mobile ROM's.
That's just odd, it must be some problem with the unlocking.
I have used various of customized wizard roms and have been pretty ignorant to the missed phone calls and no voicemail notification problem until recent(about 2 weeks ago) when I suddenly received a notification of 22 missed calls and 15 unheard voice messages. I think this is a fundamantle problem to any phone/ROM so we really need to get to the bottom of this. Does any one out there also have this problem? Please share your carrier and settings. Or better yet, please throw in a couple of ideas.
I have CINGULAR 8125 G3 and use CINGULAR as my carrier.
Here is my sympton:
1. intermittently miss phone calls, with no notification (missed call; voice mail) afterward. It might be related to intensively use some application like PIE or total-commander but I don't have solid data point to prove that. To proved it will need a pretty exhaustive testing being performed.
2. sometimes when trying to make calls, the sound quality was really bad and the call was dropped very shortly after making connection. However after a soft reset of the phone I could call out again with decent connection quality. Again this is really intermittent and not easily reproduced. However I suspect when the phone could not call out it probably couldn't receive calls either. So this issue could be related to the first issue.
First question is: Is this due to the new AKU3.2 rom? I am not sure about this because for once or twice with my phone flashed with 2.26 rom I still experience the problem that the phone couldn't call out until soft reset.
My other suspect is the omapclock overclocking. Because if the CPU being overclocked, maybe the cpu core that is in charge of the phone operation will get overclocked it cannot work properly when overclocked?
As you can see I am only shooting in the dark. Therefor any ideas will be welcomed/appreciated.
I read a lot about people missing phone calls and such when using the AKU 3.2 rom which is why I won't touch those roms anymore. There were even more problems with those roms on cingular, such as not being able to hang up without resetting the phone. You might want to do a quick search or scan thru the AKU 3.2 threads and take a look.
OK. Let me change to a different question: does any one has the same issue with a AKU2.x ROM? I am asking this because I am not sure if this is a AKU3 ROM problem.
How do I make a fancy poll in the beginning of this thread?
Same as above. You'll get a lot more out of reading the AKU 2 threads that are already have (and have been for some time) than by starting yet another poll few will answer. I've not heard of such a problem, nor have I ever experienced it. The AKU 2.3 roms seem pretty stable these days. I think, for the most part, this is a great example of "newer isn't always better".
Thank you Mark for sharing your thoughts and your experience. Which carrier and phone are you using? I have noticed that the cituation varies among different carriers also.
I have been using my cingular phone with both AKU3.2 and AKU2.26 and I have had at least 1 incident of phone not able to establish a steady call until a soft reset. And that's why I am trying to gather other people's data point.
Well I have the same problem with the following configuration:
MDA Vario - T-Mobile, Netherlands
IPL 2.26
SPL 2.26
Radio 2.47.11
OS 2.26.10.2 (AKU 2.3 based)
The problem of the missed calls came to my attention (via my girlfriend) when I was running a AKU2.3 based rom. At this moment I am still running the same ROM and frequently have this problem.
Hopefully this data will help analyse the problem. If I can help in any way, please let me know.
well i noticed an odd one with my kjam when i received it back from repair, it was using the latest imate rom which ever that was and it wasnt giving me the voicemail notification... it was just messaging telling me i have a sms waiting for me but i cannot download it because my phone is apparently full.. kept getting that all day, even though i deleted all of the 10 sms i had in there.
turns out it was a voicemail message. :|
There is a topic that makes clear that this happens on the dutch T-Mobile network too. I downgraded my radio rom to the original 2.19.11 and it solved my problem.
You can try disabeling the USSD service as it seems to help some people on Faria's 3.2 rom.
I have a suspect that overclocking of the CPU using OMAPCLOCK might be related to this problem. The problem to verify this is that I need a sequence with which I can constantly reproduce the miss call problem. Then I can perform further test with different combination of ROMs, applications, CPU speed configuration etc. I will definitely keep reporting my progress. Does any one have any suggestions/ideas?
Here is the testing schem I have designed:
I asked my wife and my son to call my CELL every 30min-1hr, leave voice message if they were redirected to the answer service. Then I can have a record and a clear indication on how many calls I have missed. Here is the current configuration I am using:
Cingular Plan with GPRS data package.
Molski AKU2.26 release ROM
2.47.11 Radio
No overclocking(195MHZ for 8125)
I will get a call hit/miss ratio after a day or two. Then I will switch to different setup(CPU Clock, AKU, Radio ROM etc.). Hopefully I can determine which is the determining factor in causing this missing call issue.
If you are interested in this test. Please join me and feel free to define your test scheme so we can have a broader test coverage. If eventually this turns out to be a Carrier problem, then we would have more data point to push the carriers to fix this.
Your participation would be greatly appreciated.
USA Cingular missed call possible solution
Like many USA Cingular customers with Faria's excellent 3.2 rom I started to miss calls and voicemail alerts. I would miss calls in places with great reception for no apparent reason, not just in places with spotty reception. I think I may have a solution to the problem.
Cingular has been giving customers a new 64k orange colored sim card to replace the older 32k black colored sims. I went to cingular to get my new card and I also received horrible reception at my house. After replacing the card several times the reception did not get any better.
I was able to speak with one of the upper level techs, and here is what was explained to me:
Cingular is in the process of combining all of it's network with the former AT&T network here in the US. Cingular has 2 networks each color coded "Orange" and "Blue". Cingular Orange is the original Cingular network from the time when SBC and BellSouth merged their wireless units. Cingular Blue is everything that Cingular got through the AT&T merger in 2003. This includes all AT&T Wireless GSM 850/1900 licenses, markets and network assets (i.e. towers etc). When I changed my sim, I also changed my primary network from Orange (registered on my old sim) to Blue. To remedy my spotty coverage at my house the tech switched me back to Orange.
Ever since I've been back on the Orange network I have not missed a call or voicemail, and it's not because I get better reception. I have been testing for 2 weeks now, and everthing is been going great! I have had the USSD service disabled, I just started the service again and will test with USSD on auto, but I'm guessing it will work. I will report back later.
This would confirm that it is a network issue, and not an issue for all users. Give Cingular a call and ask to change to the Orange network, you can always call to change it back!
Intesesting.... In addition to the missed calls and voicemail issues, did you have the phone buttons not responding issues? For instance, with any AKU 3.2 ROM, after a day or three, when I hit the "7" key to delete a message I see the & register on the screen but the phone's not aware. Or I can't hang up the phone and either have to wait or reset ...
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Sorry Dr. P, but I never had any of the button press issues.
I have been having this problem for about 6 months. On top of the problems of missing calls (I can call myself and while the landline I'm calling from will ring the whole time, the cell never wakes up or rings) I'm also having problems where I sometimes can't hang up a phone call or when I press a button in the middle of a call (like punching in my VM password) it doesn't register.
I'm also on Cingular.
I'm using a K-Jam using the last K-Jam FW. The only thing I have done is added A2DP using the patch (which I have since uninstalled). I'm not overclocking
If I soft reset my device, the problem goes away.
The only thing I noticed that was odd, is it seems to only happen when I've regsitered on a tower close to my office. It never happens when I'm anyplace else. Once I register on that tower, I have problems until I soft reset my device. If I never go to work, I don't have it. Could be a coincidence but I don't know.
If it's not a carrier problem, my thought is it's a system resource problem where something is dragging the memory down or conflicting.
More info (since I'm running a clean stock ROM):
I'm not running any today plugins that aren't standard (email, tasks, calendar, etc) EXCEPT I am running the wireless hack in the registry where it shows your carrier plus wireless info. I'm also unning PHM Tray Launch and sometimes when I soft reset my device, it won't display until I come back to the Today Screen a few times.
Other than that, I don't have a lot of SW installed on my device.
Hope this helps...
-Mc
I also have the button press issues. I can try to delete a message and while I hear the DTMF, the network does not.
I'm using the standard K-Jam FW on my K-Jam. No customized ROM here with the exception I loaded the A2DP patch.
-Mc
OK, I'm confused with my SIMs.
I have 2:
1.) 64k Cingular with green back. I originally got it from when I switched from AT&T wireless, 2 years ago, January. And it worked, so I continued to use it in my new phones. (Including my Wizard.)
2.) 64k Cingular with blue back. I got this one when I got a warranty replacement phone over the summer. (Says 3G, and has a different arrangement of contacts.)
I have to assume that I skipped over these orange SIM cards that keep getting mentioned.
Any confirmation or further info?
I would say for those who are on Cingular and having problems should post up which Cingular SIM card they have... That may cut through the possibility that the SIM may be the cause of most problems.
I used an AT&T Wireless (Cingular Blue) customer who was given the white SIM card with the black text and blue logo; I used to have lots of problems with reception and dropped calls with it and it didn't matter which phone my SIM card was in. I was told that if I migrated over to Cingular (Cingular Orange) that their new 64K SIM card could resolve my reception problems...
I currently use a Cingular 64K SIM (Orange and white color with 64K text) and it has resolved issues I used to have with previous phones. My unlocked T-Mobile MDA using the Radio ROM included (I believe it's the iMate Radio ROM) with Molski's new AKU 3.2 ROM has had no problems with reception or missed calls.
For those with problems with the ROM, I would possibly try to get a hold of a Cingular Radio ROM from the FTP server. I know that when my phone still had the default T-Mobile 2.26 G3 ROM, my reception was a little bit fuzzy on calls.
blazoner said:
OK, I'm confused with my SIMs.
I have 2:
1.) 64k Cingular with green back. I originally got it from when I switched from AT&T wireless, 2 years ago, January. And it worked, so I continued to use it in my new phones. (Including my Wizard.)
2.) 64k Cingular with blue back. I got this one when I got a warranty replacement phone over the summer. (Says 3G, and has a different arrangement of contacts.)
I have to assume that I skipped over these orange SIM cards that keep getting mentioned.
Any confirmation or further info?
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Yeah, it looks like you skipped over the orange 64K SIM's and got a 3G 64K instead.
Kudos to FunkyB! I always suspected there is something fishy in the network itself. Here is my test result so far:
Molski 2.26 ROM
2.47.11 Radio
No overclocking
Received: 11 calls
Missed: 1 calls + No voice message notification
2 extra findings:
If I press "ignore" immediately after hearing the ringtone, the other end will get busy tone.
If I press "ignore" after at least 2 rings, the other end get the voice mail
Navizon doesn't work on Molski's latest 2.26 ROM! (I found out this when I am trying to run every bit of apps I could find during the testing).
So here is another factor into my testing: Cingular BLUE or Cingular Orange. Is there any easy way for me to determine my network?
PS. I concour to Mr. McHale's finding also.
deathMiata said:
I would say for those who are on Cingular and having problems should post up which Cingular SIM card they have... That may cut through the possibility that the SIM may be the cause of most problems.
I used an AT&T Wireless (Cingular Blue) customer who was given the white SIM card with the black text and blue logo; I used to have lots of problems with reception and dropped calls with it and it didn't matter which phone my SIM card was in. I was told that if I migrated over to Cingular (Cingular Orange) that their new 64K SIM card could resolve my reception problems...
I currently use a Cingular 64K SIM (Orange and white color with 64K text) and it has resolved issues I used to have with previous phones. My unlocked T-Mobile MDA using the Radio ROM included (I believe it's the iMate Radio ROM) with Molski's new AKU 3.2 ROM has had no problems with reception or missed calls.
For those with problems with the ROM, I would possibly try to get a hold of a Cingular Radio ROM from the FTP server. I know that when my phone still had the default T-Mobile 2.26 G3 ROM, my reception was a little bit fuzzy on calls.
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My Sim Card is orange color. Is it possible that Cingular still put you on BLUE when you have a orange colored Sim? I used to be AT&T but I switched my SIM about 6 months ago.
Folks,
(I've searched around a bit and seen some reference to this problem but no definitive discussion. I apologize in advance if I missed anything and humbly request a pointer to the existing info if so.)
Just got a Tilt last weekend. On 3 occasions so far I looked at the screen and noticed that the phone had no signal (triangle with ! next to it). So for several hours each time, no one could call me. Going into comm mgr, the phone radio was still on.
This was in an area with no signal problems; soft reset or pulsing the phone radio in comm mgr would restore functionality with 3-4 bars. I finally nailed this down to having been in an area in the center of the building where I work, where signal gets lost. It appears that my Tilt never automatically recovers from a lost signal.
I saw this problem on the ROMs that came with the device and now it also continues with the new one that was just released by HTC a couple of days ago. In case it matters the phone is unlocked (using jump_spl and the other related tools and procedures found here, thanks).
Do I just have a defective Tilt? I mentioned this to others in my office and a few folks also claim to see this, and like I said I have seen *some* mention of this on the internet... I'd be astounded if this were really a problem endemic to all Tilts -- would people really put up with this?
Anyone have any additional insight?
It used to happen with me when I had the stock AT&T rom. I flashed the stock HTC rom and I don't recall ever having that problem, and now I've flashed SNE v2.5 and I don't have that problem.
My suggestion is to flash a new rom and see if that helps, and to make sure you're using a correct radio.
where do I get official htc radio and rom downloads?
hi folks,
where can i get official HTC radio and ROM downloads? I have an HTC TYTN II (acquired in Hong Kong) with ROM 1.56.721.3, Radio 1.27.12.11 & Protocol 22.45.88.07H just last month and already I'm encountering problems with the phone just losing the signal and staying lost and I'm considering upgrading however since my phone is brand new (practically), i want an "official" upgrade so as not to void the warranty. any help would be appreciated.
thanks and best regards...
I'll have to decide whether I have the cohones to flash an HTC ROM. Might at least be worth a try.
try this, go into comm manager, than settings for the phone (right soft key), than over to the Band tab, if I select the network type as GSM and leave the band on auto mine will contstantly serch for signal. i know this because my office is as close to a bomb shelter as they come and it never stops searching.
another good to this is battery life is improved
the BAD, if you want to use 3G you have to turn network back to auto and band to auto. not really a big deal cuz i dont have 3G here (yet).
a little workaround that works for me.
Thanks for that... I am running an AT&T ROM and even though I've supposedly turned on the Band tab in phone settings via KaiserTweak, I do not see a band tab. Should I?
I have almost this same exact problem! As of two weeks ago, my tilt started not allowing me to make calls
I then realized that it was also sending all my calls to voice mail. Thing is, the phone says that I have signal and has the Edge connection sign at the top. Whenever I try to make a call, the phone says "operation cannot be completed" or it will simply beep at me as if the call ended, right after it started.
A soft reset allows this to work. I've had this problem even happen right after hanging up with someone, and then trying to redial another number 5 seconds later. I doubt the phone really lost the signal.
Any ideas?
Hello
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367355
Thanks
I had the same problem with my O2 XDA Stellar, it was fine for a couple of months, then I could hardly call out on it, email wouldn't send, could rarely go online etc etc. It seemed to be better on GSM/GPRS than 3G, HSDPA etc. I assumed it was a harware problem & as it was under warranty I got a replacement from O2 & it's been fine so far.
AT&T replaced the SIM card in my phone and I believe this has fixed the problem. I have lost signal many times (elevators, garages, etc) and it recovers each time.
Hi guys,
Yesterday morning, I went to use my Kaiser to find that it said there was no service. I had left it on through the night, and had not made any changes to it in months. I restarted it, hard-reset it, and even a little while ago reflashed it to Dutty's newest Diamond rom (w/ 1.65.16.25 radio).
All the results are the same, it never picks up any network. I know the SIM card is fine because I tried it in my old phone.. no problems. I am on AT&T, I'd appreciate any advice.
What area do you live in? bad storms recently?
i work 5 miles from DC, I have service with all 4 major carriers here.. all of them have been in & out over the last week since that big storm..
T-Mobile was out for 2-3 hours this morning in my area... AT&T was down for a few hours last week...
I don't generally use verizon, but my buddy told me they reported signal but couldn't do any calls.. same thing AT&T did at times..
Cell towers aren't perfect, storms still screw em up.. and they aren't terribly redundant in most areas
smithy^ said:
All the results are the same, it never picks up any network. I know the SIM card is fine because I tried it in my old phone.. no problems. I am on AT&T, I'd appreciate any advice.
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What model is your old phone? It is possible that an issue has developed with your TyTn II with certain GSM bands. For example, AT&T uses the 850/1900 bands primarily in the Philadelphia area. If a hardware issue with my radio prevented communication over the 850 band, then I would have issues getting/holding a signal.
Have you tried turning off 3G and seeing if you can get a signal using good ol' Edge? I would also try flashing a new radio. The NIKI radio listed in my signature is compatible with Dutty's latest ROM (I'm running it also), so give that one a try.
Will the Kaiser work with Verizon ???
Same thing happened on mine this weekend. I had error reporting turnied on and it came up with an error about "device.exe".
Only way round it I found was to do a hard reset and re-install/resync. I've reloaded all my software with the exception of 1 program which possibly caused the problem - WisBar Advance. I've downloaded the latest version for WM6 as I was running an old 2003 version - hopefully get it installed later today.
Just bought a kaiser, flashed 3.29Hard2, HyperDragon IV IOLITE and I unlocked it using OliPro's tool. Problem is my O2 sim doesn't work, I've tried a Virgin and Orange sim and they both work fine.
hi there, i have been having a similar problem, i get a signal very rarely with o2 i was told the solution was a different radio.
do you happen to know what radio that would be? I've tried 2 different radio's that come on Orange ROMs and the one that came with HyperDragon IV ROM. I might try a newer sim card, mine is pretty old.
did u find a solution, i have the same problem, a rare signal on o2, no one replied to my thread, maybe u have found one that works not to bad ?
well so far i have managed to get a signal elsewhere bar my house and my gfs, i flashed it with a new rom, she has the phone the now but ill let u know what radio and rom that is in it
Hope i'm ok? Just ordered an 02 simcard as contract on Vodaphone about to run out and 02 offer the best data bolt on for the price.
Mind you i'll spend all day flashing every Radio available if i end up with a signal issue
My nightmare carrier has been 3 so far.... It'll all depend on carrier signal masts... As Radio's can just be flashed and still not help if the carrier is not giving out a good signal in your area.....
My problem was exactly what I thought, my old sim card. I went to the O2 store today and got a replacement sim (had to ring customer service's to keep old number) and it works now. It has to be a 3G sim.
To check if your sim is 3G, it should have a serial number on it, if the last line starts with 3G then it is.
Btw I'm now using the radio that came with HyperDragon IV which would be 1.65.24.36.
If any of you get good signal with another rom/radio please do tell!