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Hi All!
I'm newbie here. Please, don't beat me for my question .
I've got Qtek 9100, and now want to play with ROM. BUT! I read a lot of here, and haven't found the Full ROM Backup programm. Is it possible? Or, the only way to backup my original ROM partly, using aWizard?
Thanks for any help.
The aWizard tools do Backup all of the rom except bootloader.
BUT: The ExtROM is backuped in single files which is a problem when you want to insert the ExtROM back into the Wizard: because with the newer ROMs (1.6.x) the ExtROM can only be made visible (and stays read-only).
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addr You can backup full ROM to SD card, and then to your PC.
Click my signature to get the tool.
Ah, great!
That's the very thing i was looking for!
Thanks Button!
addr said:
... i can't upload my ROM to SD Card, after entering r2sd all i got:
Cmd>r2sd all
***** user area size = 0x1E980000 Bytes
R2SDBackup() - Download type = 6
usTotalBlock = 1 sizeof(SDCARD_SIGNATRUE_TABLE)=512
You didn't get the proper security level to download a specific image
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Sorry, it was a bug in my command file, so CID-unlocking was failed.
Now everything works fine. Please, re-download the tool (click my signature).
I tried using your backup for my ROM, because I was going to upgrade. I'm definitely a newbie at ROM upgrading and backing up...
After running the backup utility, my Qtek won't see my mini-sd card anymore. Do you know how I can make it see my card again? Did the process reformat my card or is there another problem?
Thanks!
Joe
lanerebel said:
I tried using your backup for my ROM, because I was going to upgrade. I'm definitely a newbie at ROM upgrading and backing up...
After running the backup utility, my Qtek won't see my mini-sd card anymore. Do you know how I can make it see my card again? Did the process reformat my card or is there another problem?
Thanks!
Joe
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the data backup in your mini-sd-card is not FAT compliant. but it's OK for restoring using Qtek's rom-flash procedure.
in another way, you can use tools like WinHex to view,edit or save your mini-SD to a PC as a raw binary file.
lanerebel said:
I tried using your backup for my ROM, because I was going to upgrade. I'm definitely a newbie at ROM upgrading and backing up...
After running the backup utility, my Qtek won't see my mini-sd card anymore. Do you know how I can make it see my card again? Did the process reformat my card or is there another problem?
Thanks!
Joe
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If you have already saved your ROM image to PC (myrom.bin file), you can format SD card, and use it as always.
Um, I have a noobie question as well...
Will a full ROM backup take a backup up of everything installed after being shipped from the manufacturer, i.e. programs, reg settings etc., or will it only backup the basic ROM and extended ROM, i.e. what you're left with when you hard reset your device?
the_invisigoth Yes, only ROM, not installed apps.
Hi Button,
Does your program backup the whole ROM (ie OS + Extended) or just the OS??
Is there a way to backup the OS only so that I can backup the latest Qtek OS part only. Reload my T-mobile extended ROM then restore the Qtek OS only ROM, giving me the latest OS with my T-mobile customisation??
Cheers
John
odyseus said:
Hi Button,
Does your program backup the whole ROM (ie OS + Extended) or just the OS??
John
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It backups Full ROM = OS+ExR+Radio+SPL/IPL+Splash..
Use aWizard to backup your ROM partly.
I needed Button's program before I updated to 2.8.7. I have a cingular 8125 I upgraded to 2.8.7 it overwrote my extended ROM, when I flashed everything back from awizard I relaized my extended ROM was not restored, so I flashed to 1.5.4 so I could access the extended ROM, but it downgraded my IPL and SPL to 1.?? from 2.??. So once I restored my extended ROM in 1.5.4 I upgraded just the OS to 1.8.11 from my original backup, and now when I do a hardreset it locks up during extended ROM installation. Unless I can find a way to edit the extended ROM on 2.8.7 I wont be able to restore my unit to original specs. Unless someone uses Buttons program on a Cingular 8125 and uploads it somewhere for me. I am gonna return this unit to frys and purchase it at the cingular store for a bit cheaper price. So I was hoping to restore it to orignal specs so the next helpless frys customer dosent get stuck wth a funky unit. Thanks all!
@Button,
would this method allow me to replace my 8125 to its original state including the bootloader flash screen ? i am needing to put my 8125 to its original state prior to returning.
I have a new 8125 that i could take a backup of and want to load it onto the one that i am returning. would this work ? thank you
Yes it should work.
Button,
does your program also perform restoral of ROM and all its content from the backup it's made ?
thanks for your help.
FarSeide said:
Button,
does your program also perform restoral of ROM and all its content from the backup it's made ?
thanks for your help.
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It can backup only 'clear' ROM, without programms that you have installed manually.
THANK YOU BUTTON !!!!
I was able to FULLY RESTORE my Cingular 8125 to its OEM Spec including the first boot splash screen !!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!
I spoke too soon.
Here's what happens...
After 8125 has been booted up, on the screen it says, "Data Crashes. Please contact your service Provider". And if you see on the top left corner, it says SIM LOCK. It will not let me reload the image again from the SD card from the bootloader. When I press the Voice Dial, it says, No Update Allow!.
I've tried to run the aWizard and Lokitz tool to unlock again but to no avail.
Have you seen thsi before ?
First, try to flash an old rom (from bootloader mode), - run any ruu. Then, unlock SIM and CID, if it is need. And then use SD card to restore your original rom.
Hope you guys can help me out. I disassembled my Cingular 8125 to try and improve the earpiece speaker. I put the device back together and turned it on and it sticks on the boot screen.
When I try to do a hard reset, I get to the point where I have to press send (green button), but then displays the following for a second and then goes back and freezes on the boot loader screen:
format FAT partition
format is complete
I've read some stuff about being able to recover from this using the SD card, but I'm not sure how to do it. If it is possible to recover from SD card, can someone please upload the appropriate files to the ftp site?
Please HELP!!! My ROM versions are below:
IPL: 2.16
SPL: 2.16
GSM: 02.07.10
OS: 2.16.9.1
Thanks!!!
Update:
I'm able to get to the mutli-colored screen by holding the Camera Button prior to starting the Wizard back on. I plug in my USB to my computer, but my computer says "USB Device Not Recognized". How can I get a new ROM on to my device? I tried running the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from a ROM, but it obviously wouldn't work because my computer doesn't see my phone. Please help!!
Thanks!!
Update #2:
When connected to the computer, I got to device manager and see an unknown device under USB. I uninstall the device and do a scan for hardware changes. This finds the phone, but it still shows up as an unknown device. It does say that device is ready to use, but when i try to run the ROM update utility, it still cannot find my phone.
Do I need special USB drivers for the phone to be recognized?
Please guys, any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!!!
you shouldnt need any special driver for your computer to connect to Wizard.
did you install ActiveSync at all ? perhaps its using the driver from that installation....
What OS are you using ?
Yes, I've previously installed ActiveSync 4.1. I am using Windows XP. Would it help to try to uninstall/reinstall ActiveSync? I may give that a try. Will keep you posted. Any other suggestions?
EDIT:
Just tried to uninstall/reinstall ActiveSync and it still says USB device not recognized
it looks like a dead ROM, hope it has nothing to do with the hardware.
Anyway, you try looking through this forum, there are some people who've got stuck on the boot screen, and did a flash (via the bootloader screen, e.g. the multi colour one) on the ROM and seems to fix the problem. Probably you want to put this option last. Mean while, wait for others to repsond, and you may well start looking on how to flash the ROM from bootloader screen.
hanmin said:
it looks like a dead ROM, hope it has nothing to do with the hardware.
Anyway, you try looking through this forum, there are some people who've got stuck on the boot screen, and did a flash (via the bootloader screen, e.g. the multi colour one) on the ROM and seems to fix the problem. Probably you want to put this option last. Mean while, wait for others to repsond, and you may well start looking on how to flash the ROM from bootloader screen.
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Thanks for responding. I'm ok with having to reflash, but the problem is that my computer doesn't seem to recognize my device when i'm at the multi color screen.
Isn't there a backup battery in these devices? I had my Wizard disassembled for 4 hours. I guess the backup battery could have died during this span, but even if it did, what implications would that have?
You still have hope
Get it to the bootloader screen. Connect via USB to your PC (make sure you have active sycn installed) and run an RUU to replace your ROM. I had to do this after trying to downgrade to the original Cingular ROM on my 8125. Scared the S*!T out of me when it hung on the Splash screen and wouldn't load. I thought it was toast but using the Bootloader and an RUU it put it back to normal again.
It won't look like the PC is recognizing the device but it will as long as its in Bootloader.
Let us know if you get it fixed.
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hellomoto_25 said:
Get it to the bootloader screen. Connect via USB to your PC (make sure you have active sycn installed) and run an RUU to replace your ROM. I had to do this after trying to downgrade to the original Cingular ROM on my 8125. Scared the S*!T out of me when it hung on the Splash screen and wouldn't load. I thought it was toast but using the Bootloader and an RUU it put it back to normal again.
It won't look like the PC is recognizing the device but it will as long as its in Bootloader.
Let us know if you get it fixed.
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Thanks for the reply. The problem is that when I plug the device into my computer, I get a USB device not recognized error. I try to proceed with ROMUpdateUtility.exe anyways, and get this error:
"The update utility cannot connect to your PDA phone..."
Seems like updating via USB is not going to work for me. Can I write a backup to the SD card from the PC, put the SD card in the phone, and then boot from there? I've read some posts along these lines, but detailed steps would be very helpful. THANKS!!!
You need an SD card dump image.
This is NOT a file in the sense of a file on the SD card. Its a RAW image. You need someone who has dumped their firmware in that fashion to send you the SD image.
You then write it onto the SD card using something like "psdwrite" (which will, by the way, DESTROY the filesystem on the SD card - don't have anything on there you care about!) and then insert it into the phone with the power off. Hold the CAMERA button and turn it on; when it asks if you want to restore the image, hit VOICE.
Note that for 1.x IPLs/SPLs the backlight will be OFF during this procedure, so you have to pay attention and/or have a good flashlight handy.
Genesis3 said:
You need an SD card dump image.
This is NOT a file in the sense of a file on the SD card. Its a RAW image. You need someone who has dumped their firmware in that fashion to send you the SD image.
You then write it onto the SD card using something like "psdwrite" (which will, by the way, DESTROY the filesystem on the SD card - don't have anything on there you care about!) and then insert it into the phone with the power off. Hold the CAMERA button and turn it on; when it asks if you want to restore the image, hit VOICE.
Note that for 1.x IPLs/SPLs the backlight will be OFF during this procedure, so you have to pay attention and/or have a good flashlight handy.
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Genesis3,
Thanks for your wonderful insight. I really appreciate your help.
Now can someone help me with getting an SD image? What constitutes an image file? Is it simply the .nbf file? Do I just use psdwrite and copy the nbf file onto the card? Is there something on the FTP site I can use? My configuration as mentioned in the original post is:
IPL: 2.16
SPL: 2.16
GSM: 02.07.10
OS: 2.16.9.1
I had a similar problem and reflashing the rom using the usb is possible. Don't use a flasing utility, though.
Find a self contained rom upgrade from the FTP. As long as you see USB on the bottom left side of your screen, it should work. After that, reflash with whatever rom you want. Hope it works. Nothing worse than an the feeling you have holding an expensive paper waight.
wireless_one said:
I had a similar problem and reflashing the rom using the usb is possible. Don't use a flasing utility, though.
Find a self contained rom upgrade from the FTP. As long as you see USB on the bottom left side of your screen, it should work. After that, reflash with whatever rom you want. Hope it works. Nothing worse than an the feeling you have holding an expensive paper waight.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure what you mean by "self contained rom". In the past, I've used K-JAM_WWE_216901_2169101_020710_ship.zip from the FTP site, and ran the ROMUpdateUtility.exe without any problem. Now, since I cannot make a connection to the computer via USB, I am unable to run ROMUpdateUtility.exe. Is there an alternative "self contained" file I can use that will work in spite of the unknown USB device message?
Thanks in advance...
try to DL this file: RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe. Its on the FTP. Follow this link:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site
click on the FTP Root link, navigate here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Qtek/ and download the file. Put the phone in bootloader, attach to PC (make sure the phone has USB shown in the bottom left corner, and run the file.
Ignore any references to ActiveSync or any connections period. Just run it all the way through the installation process. When all is done, you can upgrade, down grade, etc using the appropriate method (I use aWizard) Let me know if this helps.
Wireless One
wireless_one said:
try to DL this file: RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe. Its on the FTP. Follow this link:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site
click on the FTP Root link, navigate here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Qtek/ and download the file. Put the phone in bootloader, attach to PC (make sure the phone has USB shown in the bottom left corner, and run the file.
Ignore any references to ActiveSync or any connections period. Just run it all the way through the installation process. When all is done, you can upgrade, down grade, etc using the appropriate method (I use aWizard) Let me know if this helps.
Wireless One
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Thanks for your reply. I've tried the course of action that you've suggested, but i cannot get through the installation process because of inadequate connectivity between the phone and my PC. I see the USB in the bottom left hand corner, plug into the PC, and immediately see a USB Unknown device error. I ignore that and try to run the ROM anyways and it fails and I get an Update Error:
"The Update Utility cannot connect to your PDA Phone. Please check that your USB/cradle is connected..."
That's why I think I got to go the SD card route, so anyone with an image file that i can put on my SD card, I really could use the help!
It is NOT a NBF file.
The problem with the 8125 is that if you are somehow not CID unlocked the wrong SD image will actually hurt you more than it helps.
You need to find someone with a Cingular 8125 SD image - I have one for the T-Mobile MDA but not for the Cingular "as-shipped" ROM.
Genesis3 said:
It is NOT a NBF file.
The problem with the 8125 is that if you are somehow not CID unlocked the wrong SD image will actually hurt you more than it helps.
You need to find someone with a Cingular 8125 SD image - I have one for the T-Mobile MDA but not for the Cingular "as-shipped" ROM.
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Genesis3,
Thanks for confirming it's not a NBF file. I had previously CID unlocked using awizard and then installed a newer IMATE ROM:
IPL: 2.16
SPL: 2.16
GSM: 02.07.10
OS: 2.16.9.1
I did not install the IMATE Extended ROM or Cingular customizations after upgrading to the IMATE ROM. Do I still need a Cingular 8125 SD image, since i've already upgraded my ROM, or do I now need an IMATE SD image to match my current configuration? Or does the type of image file really not matter?
Thanks in advance!
I really hate to beg, but I am desparately seeking an SD image file backup. I'm going out of town in a couple of days, and would love to have a working wizard for my trip.
Can any one of you kind souls please upload your SD image file backup to the FTP site? It really is my last ditch effort before having to send the phone back.
I truly appreciate all the help and all the responses I have received to date.
THANKS!!!
sunil23 said:
I really hate to beg, but I am desparately seeking an SD image file backup. I'm going out of town in a couple of days, and would love to have a working wizard for my trip.
Can any one of you kind souls please upload your SD image file backup to the FTP site? It really is my last ditch effort before having to send the phone back.
I truly appreciate all the help and all the responses I have received to date.
THANKS!!!
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Sunil,
i apologize for not responding your PM sooner but wasnt available due to travel plans.
I am trying to upload the files to the Upload folder now and i iwll let you know when i am done.
Thanks
getting permission denied when i tried to upload the documents.
is there another password i should be using besides xda/xda ?
Hi,
Can I install a new ROM via my SD card because I cannot connect to Active Sync? I've been searching for hours but still can't fix my problem.
I tried to upgrade the radio rom only, but after that there is no radio version, no phone or internet, system on MDA is VERY slow, and I can't connect to active sync.
I can get bootloader up, but I cannot install the stock rom I downloaded from this site, because i can't connect with active sync. I've tried to copy it to an SD card and install from there, but that doesn't work either. In bootloader I do not have USB at bottom left on my screen.
only
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.03
Any help would be MUCH appreciated.
Thanks in advance!!!!!
I have the same problem :-(
It would be very nice if there´s a solution for this problem
Thanks a lot
Daniel
You don't need activesynce
You just need to get into bootloader search for it then run the RUU.
kyphur said:
You don't need activesynce
You just need to get into bootloader search for it then run the RUU.
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If USB is not showing up in the bootloader (rainbow screen) then the only known way to backup is via SD card. The RUU cannot be used in this case.
You'll want to dig out the original backup that you made when you first got the phone and do a restore boot. Restore the image from the SD card.
If you want the improved radio ROM, I'd suggest restoring from SD card, CID unlocking the device, upgrading to an AKU 2.x ROM (so you've got a 2.x bootloader) and then applying the 2.x radio ROM upgrade.
sd card
Check this
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=151
I installed a back up rom on my SD card with another phone of a friend of myne
same problem; wizard_radio version-2.25.11
will follow link in above post and see hoe it goes; anyone got any other comments?
no SD backup
well, funnily enough I ran the ROM backup as a precaution, but it seems a. not to have worked and b. to have wiped my SD card, so am buggered whichever way you look at it.
Does anyone have a backup image they could email/FTP to me so I can at least get to USB in bootloader?
THanks,
Jolyon
the CURE
ok, thanks to the tip from a99tandem.
Reset, holding down the camera button, allows you to go into boatloader, and you can flash a ROM from the PC using RUU. Bootloader comes up with 'USB' in the corner.
Thank god for that; that's 5 hours wasted...
My wizard (Cingular 8125) becomes unstable recently so I decide to reflash. Due to my stupidity, my laptop went to sleep mode while flashing. I thought I bricked my phone but it seems semi-bricked. After looking around, I try to fix using bootloader mode (holding the camera button while turn on) and I can get to the bootloader mode but my Window refuse to connect.
I'm running Vista and it doesn't connect. Try killing Mobile Device Center thread and changed the PPC driver and still not connect. Try the "vista flash guide" sticky above but doesn't work....
So, is it possible to do this via miniSD? I don't have any backup. My previous ROM was original Faria WM6 rom (old one, not his recent one)......
Help needed.....
Well,I wud like to advise you to first try to reflash with pc running winXP,as it's highly recommended,as win Vista still has many issues.
Secondly,to flash through MiniSd,your phone must be CID unlocked and a working Rom is already backed up on a MiniSd card.
I already have the phone CID-unlocked before my previous flash. I have been using Faria ROM for about a year but it's just start having problem recently.
I do not have access to XP machine that I can mess with now. It would be great if I could have some vanilla ROM updated via SD while I'm waiting....
i would like to know how to flash via SD also my usb port is broken and haven't been able to update my rom for months now
Keland44 said:
i would like to know how to flash via SD also my usb port is broken and haven't been able to update my rom for months now
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If the phone is CID unlocked and you already have a backup of the rom on a Minisd card,Yes! its possible using the MTTY 'rs2d.all' command.Read here how to do it:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963
i am problem whit my qtek 9100 (htc wizard)
my qtek is flashing whit rom win-mobile v4 , and the os is very slow, wifi is not work , usb too, the bluethoo is ok is working im sync on my computer whit bluethoo but the upgrade tool on www.qtek.nl , for the original updated rom windows m 5 is not work, error message is , problem communication whit computer and pocket pc, but the pocket pc is sync whit my computer...
i need help for the ultimate method for flashing whit a bluethooth method , im repeat usb is not working , please i need help or the qtek is go to trash... snif
os 1.5.4.2 wm 5
ipl 1.01
spl 2.17
g3
thanks for your helping
my mail is [email protected]
Hi pretty sure you can't flash over bluetooth. If you know someone else with a wizard they could back up there rom onto an SD card which could then be loaded onto your device. Hope this helps
Hi pretty sure you can't flash over bluetooth.
f you know someone else with a wizard they
could back up there rom onto an SD card
which could then be loaded onto your device.
Hope this helps
hi, i have same problem with htc wizard, ipl 1.01 spl 2.17 os 1.5.4.2, and it is stuck in startup, i can`t make hard reset, i cant backup rom to sd because cid is locked. So i have to find who has same phone ant ask to send me rom backup to me?
sorry, my english is not very good...