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xda/tomtom/gps problem

I need help too...
I have Tom Tom on mmc card but my Gps receiver wont connect. I always get 'no gps device' message although my device is connected. the red light begins by flashing but then stays on constant. (is this relevant?).
My incoming beams box is already unchecked.
I have XDA 2i and would like exact step by step instructions how to get my GPS to work... (I'm a new user - it took me one hour to set a song as my ring tone - so imagine how long this is taking!) I feel like I have tried absolutely everything and its really starting to drive me crazy. All I want is sat nav.
Thanks.....

XDAIIi GPS problem
Chicken,
what version of TT are u using?
what gps receiver?
If it's TT3.x, 4.x, or 5.x (don't know v6 yet), first you'll need to pair your receiver with your XDA. Go to Bluetooth Manager->Tools->Paired Devices. Here (if it's not there already) tap on Add and then tap on search icon (next to Device: field). It will search for any bluetoothdevices in range. Once it finds your GPS receiver, enter the passkey (provided with the receiver, usually 0000) and tap ok. The GPS receiver should be installed.
Start TT, go to Change Preferences and browse to Show GPS Status. Here, tap on Configure, choose your GPS device (I guess it will be Other Bluetooth GPS), click on Select (if prompted for pairing the GPS with PDA just tap on Continue) and choose the port. It'll be one of the bluetooth serial ports (it's COM6 in my case). Make sure that the receiver is still on and bluetooth active and watch the GPS status. If there is No GPS device! message on the top go back to configuration and change to another port.
If still no luck go to your XDA Start->Settings->Connections->Beam, make sure the Receive all incoming beams is not selected. If still no joy, you'll need to test all the connections, check if you can 'see' the receiver with another bluetooth device ez mobile phone, than do the same with your PDA. You can also reset the GPS receiver (check the manual), you can also do it by removing the battery from it and leave it like this overnight...
Good luck!

can you recommend a good GPS receiver?
Hi Robsonix.
Thanks for your reply. I got stuck at the first stage though - but was relieved to find out I'm not a complete dummy as this is what I had already tried - but failed. I cannot get my GPS to pair up with my bluetooth. My phone cannot find it.
I bought my receiver on Ebay. its just a wire thing that connects through my cig lighter to my phone. It didnt come with any instructions!! I think its a little dodgy. Can you recommend a proper one?
I'm not sure what tom tom it is, I think 5?? But actually I havent a clue.
I cant check if the receiver works with another phone as it only has connections for the xda 2i.
Thanks for your help - I hope u can help me some more.....
any recommendations??
Chiken
ha ha. Never mind - I think I've found the problem. I'm such a thicko!! It takes two to tango right? I'm such a thicko...

Port Numbers
chiken said:
I need help too...
I have Tom Tom on mmc card but my Gps receiver wont connect. I always get 'no gps device' message although my device is connected. the red light begins by flashing but then stays on constant. (is this relevant?).
My incoming beams box is already unchecked.
I have XDA 2i and would like exact step by step instructions how to get my GPS to work... (I'm a new user - it took me one hour to set a song as my ring tone - so imagine how long this is taking!) I feel like I have tried absolutely everything and its really starting to drive me crazy. All I want is sat nav.
Thanks.....
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Do you select the correct port number to match your gps port number in the gps setup in TomTom?
DAz

SPV 1500 "Alpine" TT5 with GPS receiver
I've just joined this Forus following the aquisition of an Orange SPV which is now unlocked to run on T-Mobile. I have also used an MDA Compact II (Charmer?) successfully for the past year.
Like this current thread originator "chicken" (and no doubt many others) have had difficulty running my Holox BT-321 BT sat receiver with TT5. It pairs OK, but I TT5 cannot "see" the device, even though I have selected just about every Com device available.
I recently bought a wired sat receiver (just like chicken did), and thought this would work better. However, TT5 will not see this device either!
Can someone tell me how I can check which Com port is active on the PDA, or check if there is an input stream coming in from the sat receiver?
This is getting bloody frustrating now. My old Nokia 6600's worked first time out of the box!
Thanks
Peter (with the Aprilia Falco 1000)

How to set up wired GPS /Tom tom connection

Guys / Gals
I have just picked up a WIRED GPS reciever and want to get it to talk to my XDA11i.
I also have tom tom that I want to use .
Tom tom expects to see the GPS unit on Com 1 ?
How do I set up the XDA to recieve GPS on com 1 (Tried all sorts of things but no joy , didnt believe I was an amateur but seesm I am . I haVE TURNED off " recieve all beams " but still no joy .
Any help greatfully appreciated.
Astro
I do use Pugs rom but have read that it is still possible to link to a wired device ? if not I will have to splash out on a Tom Tom Bluetooth Gps ? or will others do ?

Firstly, I am assuming you have got some way for the wired GPS to connect to your PDA (via car cradle or similar cable).
Ensure GPS unit is switched on & running, and connected to the PDA.
Start TomTom, which will ofc bleat "No GPS device!"
Tap screen, Change Preferences, tap next twice to take you to prefs screen 3, tap Show GPS status, then tap Configure
Tap the left/right arrows until Other NMEA GPS receiver is showing, then tap Select
Accept the default BAUD rate of 4800 for now, and tap Done
Now, you will be presented with a list of the available ports that TomTom can 'see'
You will probably have several COM ports available. (mine showed up with COM2, 4, 5, 6, and 9 available for example, but ymmv)
Checking that your GPS unit is still on, select the first suitable COM port in the list, whatever it is. This will take you to the GPS status screen.
IF you are lucky enough to have selected the correct port for your wired GPS unit first time, you will now see the yellow/black wheel at the top right rotating, which indicates it is receiving data from the GPS unit. (a non-rotating wheel means TomTom can't 'see' any GPS data coming in)
If the wheel is NOT rotating, don't panic, but once again tap the Configure button and repeat the steps, this time slecting the next COM port in it's list.
Repeat this process, moving down through the available list of COM ports until you hit the one where the wheel is rotating: this indicates that TomTom has successfully 'found' the GPS unit and is receiving data from it.
Assuming you DO get a rotating wheel, click done on the GPS Status screen and you will go back to TomTom's main screen, hopefully now with the correct location showing!
Hope this is of some help.
Joe Pinball
P.S. if you have had no joy with this, or dont have/cant find a cable to connect the GPS unit to the PDA/cradle, you may well find a Bluetooth GPS unit is a better way to go (try and get one with the SIRFSTar III chipset, as it's way better performance in marginal conditions): I navigate and leave my BT GPS (GlobalSat BT338) in the car glovebox and STILL get a good signal! - Joe

Wired GPS connection to XDA11i
Joe
Thanks for the info I will try that one out tonight .
To try out the system I have picked up an early Rikaline wired unit which connects directly to the XDA11i socket as well as the car lighter socket to rum them both.
My question was did i need to do any thing to the XDA to tell it to accept the plugged in device ? as you would if you set up a bluetooth system ?
Does the XDA11i automatically SEE the device you have plugged in ?
Duncan

The XDAIIi's socket contains both a USB interface (for the cradle) audio (for in-car sounds/wired handsfree) and a serial port, so as far as I know, once the GPS unit is plugged in (and assuming it outputs the NMEA standard for GPS data, which they all seem to do) all you would need to do would be to configure TomTom with the unit plugged in & working.
Once set up correctly, and you have a decent positional fix, quit TomTom in the normal way, leave it a minute or 2 and then re-start TomTom to check it saved the settings correctly.
If the settings were stored correctly, TomTom should start (can take a while with version 5.XXX, now down to a couple of seconds with V6.XXX) and then a short while later TomTom will announce on-screen "No GPS Device!"
(note: I have a bluteooth GPS and find although TomTom is capable of switching on BT for me, it will never 'see' the GPS this way: I have to switch BT on first, THEN run TT for it to see the GPS. It is entirely possible, that with a wired serial connection, TomTom may well see the GPS data immediately and NOT flash up the "no GPS device!" message, in which case it's win-win for you!)
Be patient at this point and it should soon 'see' the GPS data coming in and get a position up on the map.
Hope this helps
Joe Pinball, now with a fixed screen! yay!

Still not working !! Doooh
Joe
After a frustrating day with the wired device I gave in and picked up a Bluenext BN-806F bluetooth gps unit .
But I am still having problems. I am not sure that the uinit is not faulty as even when paired the status shows NO data going either way . PS when I go to Blue tooth manager and then active connections there is only an outgoing connection set ???
Any chance yo can run through the set up for blue tooth gps and tom tom for me ( I have a copy of tt5.21).
Do I need to set any thing ref the Com ports / beam / baud rate ?
How do I set the time that the XDA11i holds an active connection before it times out ( if no data recieved ) as the XDA breaks the connection after a while of no activity ?
Best regards
Astro1

problem with gps receiver

I connect my alpine to the gps receiver, but after few minutes, the conenction drops. I have not figured any problems with my bt hansfree.
Can anyone help??

turn off bluetooth

dropped connection
I have a similar problem . Alpine and BN806F , It pairs , wont talk then drops out ? I wonder if there is a time out after no activity ?
As my post says I am having a problem getting tom tom to see my gps reciever , do you have the some problem ? what am I doing wrong ?
Astro1

I downloaded a bt patch but the problem remains. I wonder whether it's a software or hardware problem..
Yes, I can't make my navigation program to see the gps receiver and after a while it gets disconnected...

To the OP - you said you cant get your navigation software 'see' the GPS - this is the root of the problem.
If your BT GPS unit doesnt see any requests to send data to the PDA, it will auto-switch off after a set period of time.
Once you can successfully configure your nav software to receive the GPS data, your bluetooth GPS unit will remain powered on.
You should have a software CD that came with the GPS unit (if not there are a number of freely downloadable GPS utilites for PDAs, some of which can scan for the unit to find it)- there's usually some very low-quality GPS checking utility that displays what satellites the unit can see, signal strength and so on: try using these programs to see if you can connect to your GPS, and if the unit than keeps the BT link open.
Maybe finding out which COM port the GPS unit appears on, will allow you to configure your nav software correctly to see the GPS.
Joe Pinball

I managed to connect it succesfully some times. Usually, it connects via bluetooth but it drops until I load navigator ( my navigation program). When I close the program, the bluetooth is off. I tried to search windows for power save settings but I didn't find something that would help.

GPS problems
Joe
Thanks for your advice I am still haviong big problems .
I have managed to get Tom tom to recognise a wired reciever ( but only once , and then when the cigarete lighter plug moved the unit powered down all was lost.
Do you know of any utilities that will show what is connected to what port as I believe this is the real problem . Aparently tom tom has a bad history of hijacking ports ?
It would be good to see what was actually going on .
Astro1

GPS & Bluetoothproblem (newbie)

I have a slight problem with my gps, i've installed TomTom 6 (not the newest ver.) The problem is that i don't get a GPS signal, It just say "No valid GPS signal" and I do choose TomTom Bluetooth GPS reciver. Is that correct?
I do have a problem with my Bluetooth aswell, my Sony Ericsson HBH-PV705 Bluetooth headset (handsfree) doesn't connect to my TyTN II. I belive there might be some kind of setting that i've missed...
It connected nicley with my Samsung that I had before.
And I have downloaded and Installed the HTC hotfix regarding Bluetooth.
I've tried the search, but I couldn't se that there was anyone else with this problem.
Anyone who know what to do??

First off, are you sure you really need to use the Bluetooth adapter for GPS? After all, it comes with a built in one... I'll show you my config to get an idea:
GPS Receiver - Other NMEA GPS receiver
COM Port - 4
Baud Rate - 9600
I recommend you download and run GPS Test if you haven't already. This will tell you what Baud rate and COM port you should be running on.
In regards to your bluetooth Headset, are you sure you're following the correct process for pairing the device? I remember setting mine up, it was a nightmare... until i read the instruction

I just got my tytn II and am having the same problem. I don't have TomTom, but my gps doesn't seem to work, I tried gps test but after 10 minutes it still didn't tell me anything. I can't get my headset to work either, I paired them, the phone recognizes it, but doesn't let me talk on it.
I think me and Lalla have the same problem, I can't figure it out though =/
Thanks in advance.

Lalla said:
I have a slight problem with my gps, i've installed TomTom 6 (not the newest ver.) The problem is that i don't get a GPS signal, It just say "No valid GPS signal" and I do choose TomTom Bluetooth GPS reciver. Is that correct?
I do have a problem with my Bluetooth aswell, my Sony Ericsson HBH-PV705 Bluetooth headset (handsfree) doesn't connect to my TyTN II. I belive there might be some kind of setting that i've missed...
It connected nicley with my Samsung that I had before.
And I have downloaded and Installed the HTC hotfix regarding Bluetooth.
I've tried the search, but I couldn't se that there was anyone else with this problem.
Anyone who know what to do??
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Firstly - have you got a TyTn or a TyTn II (AKA Kaiser)? As another poster says, why are you using bluetooth for GPS. The TyTn II has GPS built in!!!
Again as said above if it's a Kaiser you have use "other NMEA" as the device not bluetooth.
If Tomtom says "No valid signal" then it has found a GPS device but is waiting for a strong enough signal. The first time you set up it may take a long time to connect. Leave it in a place with a clear view of the sky. It will also help if you have run Quick GPS from your programs menu.
Mike

edd1e said:
I just got my tytn II and am having the same problem. I don't have TomTom, but my gps doesn't seem to work, I tried gps test but after 10 minutes it still didn't tell me anything. I can't get my headset to work either, I paired them, the phone recognizes it, but doesn't let me talk on it.
I think me and Lalla have the same problem, I can't figure it out though =/
Thanks in advance.
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Did you change any settings in "External GPS"? This can cause connection problems. (There are fixes for it though).
Mike

mikechannon said:
Did you change any settings in "External GPS"? This can cause connection problems. (There are fixes for it though).
Mike
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Not sure if I changed it but here are the settings:
port: COM4
Hardware port: None
Baud Rate: 4800
manage gps... is checked
Thanks for your quick reply
I tried gps test but it took about 10 minutes to get 3 bars then I lost 2 :/
Maybe I just need to leave it out for a long time?

edd1e said:
Not sure if I changed it but here are the settings:
port: COM4
Hardware port: None
Baud Rate: 4800
manage gps... is checked
Thanks for your quick reply
I tried gps test but it took about 10 minutes to get 3 bars then I lost 2 :/
Maybe I just need to leave it out for a long time?
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Actually, that sounds like it's working OK. You will notice that the Kaiser picks up and drops sats every other second. There is a thread about this someplace. In other words as you move around the sat signal will pick up and drop sats as you move (even if you are standing still) When using Tomtom or the like this does not seem to matter and it works very well.
I have found that when you first switch on the GPS make sure you have a clear view of the sky all around, then you can move to more obscured areas and it will hold a proportion of the signal. If you switch on in an obscured area, then it will take a while to acquire a fix. Running Quick GPS regularly will speed things up.
As a guide, if I switch on indoors it can take ten minutes even near a window. In the car it fixes in less than a minute (normally).
The exception is if I last switched off GPS some miles from my current location. It seems it remembers the sats position from when it was last used so if you switch on later some miles away, it takes longer - presumably 'cos it's looking in slightly the wrong place.
Mike

Ok, I'm trying GPS test right now, seems to working. Thanks for your help.
Any clue why my bluetooth headset doesn't work right? Their paired and the phone recognizes it, but I can't use it in a call.

Thanx for all the help from you all!
I've managed to fix the settings for my GPS so it works fine. But the problem with my Bluetooth is still there...but I won't give up!

go to youre bluetooth devices, find your bluetooth headset from the list and tap it. now check and see if both boxes are ticked, the stereo headset and the handsfree. now go back to the list and long tap on the bluetooth headset and set it to handsfree. that should sort it. if not try repairing it

Didn't work for me. My bluetooth headset only gives me a hands free options but it does not work. I tried it on another phone and it works fine.

GPS help, please

OK, here is the problem.....
I got CoPilot GPS installed on my Gtab. Also BlueGPS app to connect to TomTom MkII. When I try to use copilot, it says: NO GPS FOUND.
A little history: When I bought GPS receiver I was running gADAM 1.1.0, installed BlueGPS and paired the device. It worked fine with Google navigation....
Yesterday finally installed CoPilot Live 8, turned on bluetooth, paired with the receiver, found my device in BlueGPS and turned it on. CoPilot recognized GPS right away and started working (oh, mock location is checked).
It was just one time deal.
Now, no matter what I do I cannot make it work again...
Running TnTL 4.2.5
Any help appreciated.
Update:
Thought crossed my mind that GPS receiver not working.....
D/loaded "GPS for Google Earth" paired with my laptop and got position right away. So, one question is answered: It's not the receiver.

Is your bluetooth on? Check in settings
You need to start Blue GPS each time you use it.

Just a quick update......
Traced all steps I took after installing the CoPilot and successfully connecting GPS.
I d/loaded and installed a widget to turn on/off Bluetooth.
That program probably conflicted with some resources and prevented Bluetooth GPS to work with CoPilot.
After un-installing the widget nothing changed, had to reformat everything and re-install the ROM.
Took me about 30 min, but now I'm enjoying my G-tab as GPS!!!