Please whats the best solution to making the wizard with G4 chip cid unlock ?
is it by going to http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php or
something else?
thank you very much in advance to those who know or can help
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moyofalaye said:
Please whats the best solution to making the wizard with G4 chip cid unlock ?
is it by going to http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php or
something else?
thank you very much in advance to those who know or can help
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hy
Search the forum for "lokiwiz " (sorry, i dont have the thread) v. 2b should be able to unlock the CID. There is also version 3 available but i guess any will do.
You have to be logged in to be able to download it.
Good luck
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Nextasy said:
moyofalaye said:
Please whats the best solution to making the wizard with G4 chip cid unlock ?
is it by going to http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php or
something else?
thank you very much in advance to those who know or can help
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hy
Search the forum for "lokiwiz " (sorry, i dont have the thread) v. 2b should be able to unlock the CID. There is also version 3 available but i guess any will do.
You have to be logged in to be able to download it.
Good luck
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thank you very much. I have gone through if not all the threads about upgrading. I noticed that people who had the G4 chip had problems upgrading . and some people have also said that you cant unlock the cid of the G4 (spl/ipl with .001 at the end).
I am looking for how to acheive the unlocking of the cid, hence i will be able to do upgrades and downgrades as i wish.
I think http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php is good & cheaper for cid unlock, as compare to other method. The JAxxx method will cost you around EURO 85 to buy the dongle & 1 unlock credit & you have to wait for the dongle to arrive.
If you just want flashing PDA into other language on G4 PDA, you can use update_utility_no_id , no need cid unlock. Search this xda-developers.com forum for the tool.
Even after CID unlock, Downgrade a g4 rom to a g3 rom, from my experience, the radio will not run properly. A G4 PDA can only use a G4 rom. A G3 PDA can use a G4 rom , because the G4 shipped rom has 2 IPL & SPL, will fit both e.g. 2.21 IPL & 2.21.0001 IPL
Currently you are right - A G4 rom cannot be unlocked free via any software available on this site. If you truly want to unlock you're phone, you're going to have to pay.
That noted, you will always have to make sure that the ROM you're flashing will not replace your bootloader (which is a safe way to go anyway) or flash with a newer bootloader than what you have (which is the IPL/SPL 2.x). Do not ever go backwards (1.x bootloaders) because you will brick your device.
The only saving grace you can give an attempt to is the lokiwizMSL03a or lokiwiz03a programs by machinagod. I cannot confirm if these have or have not worked with a G4 chipset wizard.
Safe bet currently for G4 wizard owners - pay to get the thing unlocked; you won't brick your device.
mengesb said:
Currently you are right - A G4 rom cannot be unlocked free via any software available on this site. If you truly want to unlock you're phone, you're going to have to pay.
That noted, you will always have to make sure that the ROM you're flashing will not replace your bootloader (which is a safe way to go anyway) or flash with a newer bootloader than what you have (which is the IPL/SPL 2.x). Do not ever go backwards (1.x bootloaders) because you will brick your device.
The only saving grace you can give an attempt to is the lokiwizMSL03a or lokiwiz03a programs by machinagod. I cannot confirm if these have or have not worked with a G4 chipset wizard.
Safe bet currently for G4 wizard owners - pay to get the thing unlocked; you won't brick your device.
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Ok so if i was to use the http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php to cid unlock the g4 wizard, i wont need to worry about what rom im flashing, i wont need to worry about the spl/ipl ? So basically your saying all the flexibility of the G3 will be available for the G4 ?
Thanks again to everyone.
moyofalaye said:
Ok so if i was to use the http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php to cid unlock the g4 wizard, i wont need to worry about what rom im flashing, i wont need to worry about the spl/ipl ? So basically your saying all the flexibility of the G3 will be available for the G4 ?
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Wrong.....
The Custom "Cooked" Roms on this site only contain the IPL/SPL for G3 as that is the most common chip.
Also 1.x Roms have no G4 bootloaders.
Even CID unlocked you will be limited to "Official" Roms or "Cooked" Roms either missing Bootloader or specifically with G4 Bootloader.
kyphur said:
moyofalaye said:
Ok so if i was to use the http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php to cid unlock the g4 wizard, i wont need to worry about what rom im flashing, i wont need to worry about the spl/ipl ? So basically your saying all the flexibility of the G3 will be available for the G4 ?
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Wrong.....
The Custom "Cooked" Roms on this site only contain the IPL/SPL for G3 as that is the most common chip.
Also 1.x Roms have no G4 bootloaders.
Even CID unlocked you will be limited to "Official" Roms or "Cooked" Roms either missing Bootloader or specifically with G4 Bootloader.
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thanks that clears up alot of questions, one more thing i need to know, cause i have started working on the wiki. the G4 and the G3 versions, are they limited only to the tmobile vario or all types of wizards. ?
moyofalaye said:
thanks that clears up alot of questions, one more thing i need to know, cause i have started working on the wiki. the G4 and the G3 versions, are they limited only to the tmobile vario or all types of wizards. ?
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It can be any descendant of the Wizard from what I hear, either a model 100 or 200, be it a Cingular 8125, or a T-Mobile MDA. Always check your SPLs before flashing. The phone you save just may be your own.
mengesb said:
Safe bet currently for G4 wizard owners - pay to get the thing unlocked; you won't brick your device.
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Why pay for something you can have: free, better, safer???
Don't CID unlock your device, it's a waste of time and money. The best solution is, IMHO, to remove the IPL/SPL parts from the ROM you want to install: it'll take you only 2 minutes! This solution is also better than CID unlocking in three aspects:
- It's free. No need to comment on this
- It's better: in a CID unlocked G4 phone, you cannot install the home-made ROMs you find in this forum (like summitter's ones or MrClean). If you cook your own ROM, on the contrary, you can install whichever 2.x ROM you like
- It's safer: if you correctly remove the IPL and SPL parts from the ROM you want to install, the event of a major damage (bricking) is highly unlikely. Even if your PC crashes or there's a power outage in the middle of the upgrade you will still be able to boot your device and to repeat the upgrade!
To remove IPL/SPL from a ROM of your choice, you can follow this tutorial i wrote: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088
Bye
Cool. It is exactly that, what I wont know !!
So Can I cook my own ROM for G4 and G3 device (I have Extension ROM and Splash screen). It is be sufficient translate the ROM in "nb2nbf_tornado.exe"?
For example aku 3.2 Os and my own Extended ROM and Splash Screen.
Johnnnnnnnnnny said:
Cool. It is exactly that, what I wont know !!
So Can I cook my own ROM for G4 and G3 device (I have Extension ROM and Splash screen). It is be sufficient translate the ROM in "nb2nbf_tornado.exe"?
For example aku 3.2 Os and my own Extended ROM and Splash Screen.
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Yes!
Cool 2: :lol:
So I will make that ROM when I will have my device again. Perhaps I will share it if will work done
Need I the file enterbootloader.exe if I dont want to flash IPL/SPL ?
Johnnnnnnnnnny said:
Cool 2: :lol:
So I will make that ROM when I will have my device again. Perhaps I will share it if will work done
Need I the file enterbootloader.exe if I dont want to flash IPL/SPL ?
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You need all the files in the RUU archive. Just follow the tutorial i told you about. bye
Also: CAN YOU PLS CHANGE THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD??? IT SEEMS THAT YOU HAVE A WORKING SOLUTION BUT ACTUALLY IT IS THE OPPOSITE: YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT. ADD A "?" IN THE TITLE!
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Hi,
a few days ago i wrote on this forum that i had been able to install an italian ROM on a G4, CID-Locked Wizard. Since then, i've received several mails and PM from users asking me how i did. Instead of replying each one, i though it was better to write a tutorial and post it here for everyone to read/comment/correct it.
Here it is. Together with the tools you'll need to perform the update.
PS: in this tutorial i'm not explaining how to CID-UNlock a G4 or G3 (>= 2.21) phone. There is not yet a way to CID unlock these phones. I'm just describing how to circumvent the CID-lock problem by installing a ROM deprived of the IPL and SPL parts.
DISCLAIMER: THE PROCEDURE I’M GOING TO EXPLAIN DEALS WITH ROM ‘COOKING’ AND THUS IT MAY CAUSE SEVERE DATA LOSS OR EVEN IRREMEDIABLY DAMAGE YOUR DEVICE!
THE AUTHOR, NOR EVERY OTHER PERSON INVOLVED (E.G. THE ROM TOOLS DEVELOPERS), SHALL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY MALFUNCTIONS OR DAMAGES THIS PROCEDURE MAY CAUSE.
By following this tutorial, you're removing both the bootloaders (IPL and SPL) from a rom of your choice. This means that, if you don't make errors while 'cooking' the rom, you cannot completely destroy (brick) your phone. Sure, you could end up with a non-booting rom but, as long as you can get to the three colors screen (the bootloader screen) you'll always be able to install a different (or your previous) working rom.
On the other hand, messing with IPL and SPL (i.e. installing a rom containing IPL and SPL in a CID locked device) is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS and MUST be avoided in most cases!!!
Installing a 2.xx rom without messing with your phone's IPL and SPL is exactly what this tutorial tries to explain.
NEVER INSTALL ROMS OR FOLLOW TUTORIALS IF YOU'RE NOT SURE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!!
ALWAYS ASK BEFORE PROCEEDING! A SIMPLE QUESTION MAY SAVE YOUR PHONE FROM DEATH!
Worked perfect!
Thank you very much for the clear explanation!!! 8)
HI,
Have I to introduce on nb2nbf SW the ITA language without CID??
squarna said:
HI,
Have I to introduce on nb2nbf SW the ITA language without CID??
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Leave the CID field empty and specify the language you're installing (ITA for italian, WWE for english).
Hi,
I have installed this SW on my MDA T-mobile:
IPL:2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM:2.19.11
OS:2.21.2.6
EXROM:2.21.2.109
What is the best Italian ROM to flash inside?
squarna said:
Hi,
I have installed this SW on my MDA T-mobile:
IPL:2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM:2.19.11
OS:2.21.2.6
EXROM:2.21.2.109
What is the best Italian ROM to flash inside?
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This is quite Off Topic here, anyway you can use K-Jam 2.18 italian ROM (find it here: ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/K-JAM_ITA_2180901_21809104_20710_ship.zip)
German to WWE
Worked perfect, no glitches! Thanks for the help!
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
minirx7 said:
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
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You CAN install MrClean AKU2.3 ROM BUT only if you first modify it following my guide: you cannot touch the IPL/SPL parts!!!
There are two reasons for not installing the original, unmodified MrClean ROM:
1) G4 phones cannot be CID unlocked. This means that you can replace their original IPL/SPL ONLY with a newer version made by the very same operator: e.g. if you have a 2.21 WWE T-mobile ROM then you can ONLY update this rom with a version > 2.21 made by T-mobile!!! You CANNOT use any other language nor any other operator's ROMs (cingular's, qtek's, etc).
2) MrClean ROM, as all the other home made ROMs you'll find in this forum, can be installed ONLY in G3 models because it contains only IPL and SPL version 1.0 (G4 phones need version 2.0)
Basically then, you have only 3 choices:
a) Follow my tutorial and be able to install every 2.x ROM you like (both stock ROMs and home made ones, every language, every operator). The only limitation is that you cannot install 1.x ROMs!
b) Install ONLY ROMs that are the OFFICIAL update to the one you have currently installed (e.g. if you have cingular 2.25 WWE rom then you'll be able to update it only when and if, a new, official, wwe, cingular ROM will be released). You won't be able to install a different language ROM nor a ROM made by a different operator, nor a home made ROM (like MrClean).
c) you can CID unlock your G4 wizard using some online service but: it will cost you money and you won't still be able to install home-made ROM 'cos they contain only IPL/SPL version 1.0 (you'll still need IPL/SPL version 2.0)
That said, i strongly suggest you solution (a)! It's free, it's very simple (it may seem complex but after the first time it'll be straight forward), it's the safest (because you don't replace the boot loader IPL and SPL) and it let you install whichever 2.x ROM you like!
Bye
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
risidoro said:
minirx7 said:
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
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You CAN install MrClean AKU2.3 ROM BUT only if you first modify it following my guide: you cannot touch the IPL/SPL parts!!!
There are two reasons for not installing the original, unmodified MrClean ROM:
1) G4 phones cannot be CID unlocked. This means that you can replace their original IPL/SPL ONLY with a newer version made by the very same operator: e.g. if you have a 2.21 WWE T-mobile ROM then you can ONLY update this rom with a version > 2.21 made by T-mobile!!! You CANNOT use any other language nor any other operator's ROMs (cingular's, qtek's, etc).
2) MrClean ROM, as all the other home made ROMs you'll find in this forum, can be installed ONLY in G3 models because it contains only IPL and SPL version 1.0 (G4 phones need version 2.0)
Basically then, you have only 3 choices:
a) Follow my tutorial and be able to install every 2.x ROM you like (both stock ROMs and home made ones, every language, every operator). The only limitation is that you cannot install 1.x ROMs!
b) Install ONLY ROMs that are the OFFICIAL update to the one you have currently installed (e.g. if you have cingular 2.25 WWE rom then you'll be able to update it only when and if, a new, official, wwe, cingular ROM will be released). You won't be able to install a different language ROM nor a ROM made by a different operator, nor a home made ROM (like MrClean).
c) you can CID unlock your G4 wizard using some online service but: it will cost you money and you won't still be able to install home-made ROM 'cos they contain only IPL/SPL version 1.0 (you'll still need IPL/SPL version 2.0)
That said, i strongly suggest you solution (a)! It's free, it's very simple (it may seem complex but after the first time it'll be straight forward), it's the safest (because you don't replace the boot loader IPL and SPL) and it let you install whichever 2.x ROM you like!
Bye
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minirx7 said:
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
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Bootloader and ROM version numbers usually are the same (so ROM 2.24 should have IPL/SPL 2.24) but they can be different. I've used IPL/SPL 2.21.001 with both 2.18 and 2.24 ROMs.
Maybe newer ROMs, greater than 2.24, will require an updated IPL/SPL so you'll be obliged to CID unlock your phone. By then however, i hope there'll be a free CID unlocking tool for G4.
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Thank you risidoro!! I was regretting getting my O2 miniS G4, in place of my broken Qtek 9100 G3.
I will give it a shot tonight. I noticed that the 2.24 ROM was much faster when I used it on my Qtek, over any other ROM.
Regards
risidoro said:
minirx7 said:
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
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Bootloader and ROM version numbers usually are the same (so ROM 2.24 should have IPL/SPL 2.24) but they can be different. I've used IPL/SPL 2.21.001 with both 2.18 and 2.24 ROMs.
Maybe newer ROMs, greater than 2.24, will require an updated IPL/SPL so you'll be obliged to CID unlock your phone. By then however, i hope there'll be a free CID unlocking tool for G4.
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THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED MR. CLEAN 2.24A ON MY G4 DEVICE!!!!
THe ROM is so much faster and smoother than the OE 2.21 ROM!!! tahnks again!
risidoro did you SIM unlock your G4 phone ? If yes what tool and version did you use to do that ?
jeegnesh said:
risidoro did you SIM unlock your G4 phone ? If yes what tool and version did you use to do that ?
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My two phones were both factory simunlocked but i heard that some people is successfully using LokiwizMSL 0.3a to sim unlock G4 wizards.
Just follow the author's instruction. The procedure is staightforward.
Find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768&highlight=lokiwiz
Bye
Thanks for the superfast reply, actually waiting for someone to get me this phone, hopefully this week, wil try it out once I get it.
Using Clean ROM, does it just improve startup time, or does it improve performace of the phone in general ?
Do you have to re-install software after ROM update ?
jeegnesh said:
Thanks for the superfast reply, actually waiting for someone to get me this phone, hopefully this week, wil try it out once I get it.
Using Clean ROM, does it just improve startup time, or does it improve performace of the phone in general ?
Do you have to re-install software after ROM update ?
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Upgrading the OS part of a ROM cause your phone to hard reset, so yes, you'll have to reinstall everything. If, on the other hand, you upgrade any other part (GSM, Splash, ExtROM, HTC) but not the OS then you won't loose your data.
MrClean ROM and Summitter's ROM are both very fast. The latter contains cingular's customizations in extROM (they don't slow down the phone, they're mainly registry settings), some ringtones and compact framework 2.0 in ROM. If you're not a cingular user then i suggest you take the OS part from summitter's rom and the extrom from the MrClean. Then join the two parts with nb2nbf and flash to your device.
Bye
Any reason to take Summitter's OS is it faster or something then Mr Clean ?
jeegnesh said:
Any reason to take Summitter's OS is it faster or something then Mr Clean ?
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No. Both summitter and mrclean use the same OS ROM (2.24.10 AKU2.3) hence they have the SAME, IDENTICAL speed.
The difference is that Summitter manually edited the original ROM and added a lot of ringtones, themes and, most important, the .net compact framework 2.0. If you install Summitter OS, then, you'll have the same mrclean basic OS plus a lot of goodies that don't take any space in storage since they're in ROM (compact framework 2.0 alone would take about 5mb of your precious storage if you installed it on mrclean).
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This thread needs to be a sticky!!
all famous coockers just jumping around abt this issue, but no one tells an exact answer, is there any posibility to unlock G4 2.xx.0001. But main thing that pisses me off that if any of them will lose thier phones, they never will get a G3 device, cuz there's no vendor who manufacturing this version phones anymore. and after that they will focus on coocking ROMs so they can be puted to G4 wizards. this address : http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ only do sim unloking for G4. but some ppl claim that there is a way to unlock but no1 start a thread abt it.
and the question: were's a truth ? were's a information for ppl to whom u do this work that brings no money?
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all famous coockers just jumping around abt this issue, but no one tells an exact answer, is there any posibility to unlock G4 2.xx.0001. But main thing that pisses me off that if any of them will lose thier phones, they never will get a G3 device, cuz there's no vendor who manufacturing this version phones anymore. and after that they will focus on coocking ROMs so they can be puted to G4 wizards. this address : http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ only do sim unloking for G4. but some ppl claim that there is a way to unlock but no1 start a thread abt it.
and the question: were's a truth ? were's a information for ppl to whom u do this work that brings no money?
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If it is really possible, we won't have so many people complaining about their G4 being bricked... so no, we haven't found a way to CID unlock G4s as of now...
G4 Unlock sucessfully
I unlock my Wizard (G4) using this procedure, Yesterday. Now I'm able to install any ROM including the greatest Faria(3.0.0.0) ROM.
I like to thanks the support and effort of our cookers.
Millions Thkx
i found about 4 ppl here who break G4 device, including me . i think this is a big number. but anyway all we have to do is wait , maybe some1 will turn his knowledge into this problem. and we'll unleash the power of this masterpiece device
let me be clear once for all
the only place that you g4 can be CID UNLOCKED IS HERE
http://www.imei-check.co.uk/
its been tried and tested hence why g4 can install my rom.this does not mean that you can install other rom cookers rom.i have a way of cooking roms that are compatible with g4.
but you will atleast be able to to flash any provider rom.make sure it is above aku2.never try to install a rom with ipl/spl 1xxxx in a g4.you will brick it,even if it has been unlocked.
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i found about 4 ppl here who break G4 device, including me . i think this is a big number. but anyway all we have to do is wait , maybe some1 will turn his knowledge into this problem. and we'll unleash the power of this masterpiece device
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pearhaps i'm the 5th person who break his G4 they change it to me and they gave me one with SPL/IPL 2.21 no 000 neither 0001 i think it's G3 i'm i wrong ?
hica said:
pearhaps i'm the 5th person who break his G4 they change it to me and they gave me one with SPL/IPL 2.21 no 000 neither 0001 i think it's G3 i'm i wrong ?
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IT's G3 all right...
ok now i'm sure i have a G3 with Molski2.26 SPL/IPL 2.26
can i downgrade it and CID unlock it without probleme ? because i remember SPL / IPL = or >2.21 can not be CID unlocked using Lockwiz2b !!
if no can i install Faria 3.00 ROM and return back to any rom 2.xx ?
2.17.0001 (G4) unlocked
I unlocked mine at imei-check yesterday and upgraded to the latest Faria ROM no problem.
40$ for unlocking at http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ is not much but still the money
I'm surprised no-one has found a free way of doing it yet, clearly it's possible, hopefully someone in the know will get lumped with a G4 and be forced to find a way
I have no programing knowledge, but it seems like someone who does and has a G4 should be able to reverse engineer that utility that imei-check uses to figure out what they are doing?
You guys that have unlocked your G4, are you able to do a ROM backup to the SD card?
Me too yesterday did CID unlock my G4 in imei-check.co.uk and flashed Faria's ROM. Now I can install any AKU 2.X / 3.X rom (shipped/custom) without IPL/SPL.
Nishad
Once a G4 has been CID unlocked, can you flash a ROM with an IPL/SPL in it, as long as its not a 1.xx?
Basically can a G3 IPL/SPL be put onto a G4 device after the G4 has been CID unlocked, or will G4 users always have to use ROMs with the IPL/SPL removed from them?
d0ug said:
Basically can a G3 IPL/SPL be put onto a G4 device after the G4 has been CID unlocked, or will G4 users always have to use ROMs with the IPL/SPL removed from them?
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THAT's what you CAN'T do. Don't use a G3 ROM on a G4 device. It's not the IPL/SPL that's the problem. It's the bootloader. If you flash with a rom that's not compatible with a G4 device, and your G4 is unlocked, it will flash. But the next time you try to boot it it will not boot. That's because the bootloader for a G4 is different than a G3.
I paid imei-check to unlock my G4. I thought like you did, that I could now flash any rom. So I did. Then I bricked it because I flashed a G3 rom with a G3 bootloader. Silly me.
don't mix g3 & g4
I understand from reading this forum that G3 devices can have their IPL/SPL changed whereas the G4 devices cannot. I am a bit unclear if G4 devices can upgrade updwards (someone please confirm) but I know they cannot go down to IPL 1.xx
So the difference between G3 & G4 updates is that G4 updates do not have IPL/SPL components. I have taken a G3 Mr Clean update, unpacked it and repacked it without the IPL/SPL and it worked without any problems on my G4. Details on how to do this are in this forum.
Ok I am stuck for sure. I have Cingular 8125 with stock ipl/spl 2.25. I wanted to install faria Aku 3.2 rom and followed the instructions to a T. I downgraded to "CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE," Then CID unlocked my phone with Lockwiz 0.2 by placing enablerapi.cab in phone and executing it. All went well. Then I upgraded to Moleski's "RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2," and then tried to upgrade to Faria's "FARIA-HTC-WIZARD -3.2-RC1-8MB Rom." (Even removed sim, and hardreset as per instructions) Everything seem like it was going smooth. After installation, the only thing that changed was the flash screen nothing else. So I tried to flash back to the stock ipl/spl 2.25 and I get an error message regarding the nk.nbf file. Now, no matter what rom I try to install it stays at ipl: 1.01, spl: 2.26, GSM: 1.12.10, OS:1.5.4.2. Where did i go wrong.
d0ug said:
I have no programing knowledge, but it seems like someone who does and has a G4 should be able to reverse engineer that utility that imei-check uses to figure out what they are doing?
You guys that have unlocked your G4, are you able to do a ROM backup to the SD card?
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Trust me, there are people working on this ;-)
joshnat said:
THAT's what you CAN'T do. Don't use a G3 ROM on a G4 device. It's not the IPL/SPL that's the problem. It's the bootloader. If you flash with a rom that's not compatible with a G4 device, and your G4 is unlocked, it will flash. But the next time you try to boot it it will not boot. That's because the bootloader for a G4 is different than a G3.
I paid imei-check to unlock my G4. I thought like you did, that I could now flash any rom. So I did. Then I bricked it because I flashed a G3 rom with a G3 bootloader. Silly me.
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IPL/SPL is the bootloader and bootloader is the IPL/SPL.
Hi,
I have a dutch HTC wizard/qtek 9100, with the AKU 2 NLD ROM.
I tried CID unlocking but noticed that didn't work with AKU 2,
Is it possible my phone isn't cid-locked? Is there a quick way to check?
How can I downgrade to an older rom version and what file should I use,
I tried this one: "RUU_Prodigy_1030710_110_10410_Qtek_NLD_Ship.exe"
but after restarting my wizard and loading the bootloader the update program gave an error claiming that it can only UPgrade to newer versions...
I suppose I cant use the wwe version or can I?
well, thanx in advance,
Bonusbartus
As written before, u need AKU 1 to CID unlock your phone..the only way to be sure is to unlock again. Use buttons rom.. downgrade to that... unlock the phone.. install the rom again so the IPL and SPL are the same..then you can switch to whatever rom you want. How ever, you havent shown what type of Wizard you have whether its a G3 or a G4..the above method is what i used for my G3 Wizard
I have a g3 wizard,
so I can use that rom, I don't need a dutch version or something else?
Bonusbartus said:
Hi,
I have a dutch HTC wizard/qtek 9100, with the AKU 2 NLD ROM.
I tried CID unlocking but noticed that didn't work with AKU 2,
Is it possible my phone isn't cid-locked? Is there a quick way to check?
How can I downgrade to an older rom version and what file should I use,
I tried this one: "RUU_Prodigy_1030710_110_10410_Qtek_NLD_Ship.exe"
but after restarting my wizard and loading the bootloader the update program gave an error claiming that it can only UPgrade to newer versions...
I suppose I cant use the wwe version or can I?
well, thanx in advance,
Bonusbartus
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1. Thank-you for posting in a new thread and not in a ROM release thread.
2. Do you have a G3 or G4 (what is your IPL/SPL?)
2a. If you have a G3 read the Sticky post The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards.
2b. If you have a G4 log onto the IMEI pay site (links all over the place) and pay to get your phone unlocked.
3. IF you have a G3 rom you must downgrade to CID unlock. It isn't possible to CID unlock from AKU2 or higher (read the sticky, it tells you what you need to do)
4. The best thing to do if you are unsure is to just repeat the unlock procedure. It won't hurt a thing if you are already unlocked, but will unlock you if you are locked.
5. Don't do anything flash related until you know for sure, beyond a doubt which version of Wizard you have (G3 or G4) If you have a G4 and use G3 procedures you WILL most likely ruin your device.
6. You won't get this error if you follow the steps in the correct order from the upgrade guide.
7. Good Luck
Bonusbartus said:
I have a g3 wizard,
so I can use that rom, I don't need a dutch version or something else?
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With your G3 just follow the steps, in order, from the sticky and you should be able to end with whatever ROM you choose. Some of the steps may not make sense but, they are necessary and prevent common issues if followed correctly.
Well, I do have a G3 so I can follow the tutorial,
ipl and spl are 2.18,
only question left, CAN I downgrade to the wwe rom in the tutorial? that's what I wanna know, because I now have a nld rom, can I flash to the wwe rom in the tutorial without CID-unlocking?
well I think I just try
thanx
oh btw, any recommendations on which rom to flash to after unlocking? and I saw something about radio only roms and page-pools what would u recommend there?
i want to flash the Molski.Biz AKU3.3 Crossbow Style Edition Rom...i have a IPL/SPL both of 1.05....and the phone is unlocked....am i ready to flash this rom ?? if not what pther things must i do first....i have read through all the threads but the IPL/SPL part is confusing me
first is to determine wether your device is G3 or G4..
in your case.. you have a G4 device.. (i just sense it with my 3rd eye..lol)
because looking at your IPL/SPL version.. you have 1.05 meaning G3..
For me.. You are now ready to upgrade.. BUT! YOU"RE NOT READY to upgrade any radio rom that has version 2.xx, you can only have radio version that has 1.xx version..
becouse your bootloader is 1.xx
Upgrdae your IPL/SPL version to something 2.xx to be able to upgrade your radio rom to 2.xx
Do i make my statement clear?
double_ofour said:
in your case.. you have a G4 device.. (i just sense it with my 3rd eye..lol)
because looking at your IPL/SPL version.. you have 1.05 meaning G3..
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is my device a G4 or a G3 ? u kinda contradicted urself accidently in ur post....iam guessing its a G3...am i right ?
double_ofour said:
Upgrdae your IPL/SPL version to something 2.xx to be able to upgrade your radio rom to 2.xx
Do i make my statement clear?
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ok now this part i DONT get...how do i upgrade the IPL/SPL ?? is there a special ROM for that ?
ooppss.. sorry..
i was in a hurry typing thats why i typed it misspeled..
YOU HAVE A G3 DEVICE..
regarding to your second question..
i myself dont have much knowledge about IPL/SPL..
but as far as i know..
newer IPL/SPL version are already included in some ROM.. like underground?.. (i think)
and.. for that to work.. you must first have your CID Unlocked..
(Correct me if im wrong experts.. but thats what i know..)
Dr puttingham said to me before that..
"I suggest the T-Mobile 2.26. In my tutorial you'll find the working link."
He said that to me if you want to upgrade your IPL/SPL..
you have to be CID Unlock first..
double_ofour said:
Dr puttingham said to me before that..
"I suggest the T-Mobile 2.26. In my tutorial you'll find the working link."
He said that to me if you want to upgrade your IPL/SPL..
you have to be CID Unlock first..
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but doesnt the fact that i have a 1.05 SPL/IPL mean that my CID is unlocked ??
ranasrule said:
but doesnt the fact that i have a 1.05 SPL/IPL mean that my CID is unlocked ??
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ok my device IS CID unlocked....bnecause i can use any SIM i want...just tried 3 different company's SIMs
OK SO NOW THE QUESTION IS....which ROM to i install to upgrade the IPL/SPL and is this even necessary if i want to flash the Molski.Biz AKU3.3 Crossbow Style Edition Rom
CID is not SIM
ranasrule said:
ok my device IS CID unlocked....bnecause i can use any SIM i want...just tried 3 different company's SIMs
OK SO NOW THE QUESTION IS....which ROM to i install to upgrade the IPL/SPL and is this even necessary if i want to flash the Molski.Biz AKU3.3 Crossbow Style Edition Rom
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I don't want to confuse you, but SIM unlocked is not the same as CID unlocked. Please check one of the sticky posts for ways to CID unlock your phone!
mr-who said:
I don't want to confuse you, but SIM unlocked is not the same as CID unlocked. Please check one of the sticky posts for ways to CID unlock your phone!
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ok thanks fior the info.....so is there any way to verify weather my device is CID unlocked ? what if i try to unlock an already unlocked device ? will that leave me with a very expensive brick ?
Unlocking again doens't hurt
ranasrule said:
ok thanks fior the info.....so is there any way to verify weather my device is CID unlocked ? what if i try to unlock an already unlocked device ? will that leave me with a very expensive brick ?
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AFAIK there is no easy way to tell whether you have an CID unlocked phone. But the good thing is, you will NOT brick you device by unlocking an already unlocked phone. So just give it go!
Succes!
yup yup..
i agree..
Hey, ive been reading for a while but i still dont know exactly what to do to upgrade my tmobile mda. im pretty sure its the vario one. and it's image version is 1.8.10.104. its ipl and spl are both 1.08 so i think that means itsa g3 chip. I tried downloading a different rom but it just didnt work.
I just want the newest version. I have bluetooth stereo headphones and i would love to use them with this phone. Any help with be much aprreciated
jawnsixteen said:
Hey, ive been reading for a while but i still dont know exactly what to do to upgrade my tmobile mda. im pretty sure its the vario one. and it's image version is 1.8.10.104. its ipl and spl are both 1.08 so i think that means itsa g3 chip. I tried downloading a different rom but it just didnt work.
I just want the newest version. I have bluetooth stereo headphones and i would love to use them with this phone. Any help with be much aprreciated
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read the Sticky for the definitive guide to CID unlocking and upgrading G3 wizards.
If you follow every step in that tutorial you will:
a. have a CID unlocked wizard capable of being flashed with any wizard rom, custom or otherwise
b. you will KNOW that you device is CID unlocked because you did it yourself
c. ROM's will actually flash because your CID is unlocked.
NOTE: you currently have a 1.08 bootloader. You cannot flash a 2.xx custom rom until you upgrade your bootloader to 2.xx. The easiest way of doing this is flashing the much promoted T-Mobile 2.26 rom. Of course if you follow all the steps in the unlocking tutorial you will end up with IPL/SPL 2.26 and be CID unlocked.
ok, thank you
it says that it voids the warrenty
But i thought it was a made-by-tmobile download?
And can't i just reboot it to the original version i have right now if there are any problems or anything? Will the notice? is it possible?
jawnsixteen said:
ok, thank you
it says that it voids the warrenty
But i thought it was a made-by-tmobile download?
And can't i just reboot it to the original version i have right now if there are any problems or anything? Will the notice? is it possible?
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If you want WM6 you will be voiding your warranty as you won't be able to flash it unless you are CID unlocked.
There currently is not and most likely NEVER will be an official WM6 carrier rom for the Wizard.
If all you want is the latest carrier rom from your carrier then all you have to do is go to their website and download it and follow the instructions. You won't have to worry about CID or warranty voiding.
As for them noticing, maybe, maybe not. It really depends on who you talk to. If you stay with roms only made and released from your carrier you won't have anything to worry about as you can flash them without doing anything that will void your warranty.