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New Cing 8125: ipl 2.25 / spl 2.25 - which downgrade works?

The desire is to CID unlock the 8125 so the phone can be Summiter-ized. This was new-in-the-box from Cingular:
ipl 2.25
spl 2.25
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I saw faria's post http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=47848 but it states this won't work above 2.21.
I believe I can downgrade to the 1.08 original stock image posted in the FTP area, but I'm not certain this will work. I read where someone tried downgrading and the spl remain 2.x and things didn't work out so well. This is where I read it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75
The quote directly above is from the lokiwiz0.3 thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768 - but no one's actually confirmed it will unlock Cingular's latest ROM. Folks there just mention up to about 2.21 or so and the thread shifted to talk about the G4 chip and it's challenges.
Has anyone with a new Cingular phone tried lokiwiz0.3? Or how about CID unlocking anything higher than a 2.21 ROM? I'd just try this myself, but I'm stepping a buddy through this remotely. I can carry him all the way with URLs, cool cabs, and tweaks, all I need help with is something I haven't personally had to face - I don't wish to brick his phone.
Thanks for any testimonials!

Is it G3 or G4 phone? If it's a G4 phone then you can not downgrade to 1.x Rom as they don't include G4 bootloader.

kyphur said:
Is it G3 or G4 phone? If it's a G4 phone then you can not downgrade to 1.x Rom as they don't include G4 bootloader.
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It's G3; there's no trailing decimalization on the ipl / spl.

I have the same ipl/spl, and the unlock tool did not work for me, i would also like to know if its possible to downgrade this rom...

Give it a try.
I think you might need to replace one file, "RUUGetInfo.exe".
Try this:
Download the Cingular 1.8 Rom.
Rename it from *.exe to *.rar
Open the rar and extract the files into an empty folder.
Replace the "RUUGetInfo.exe" file with the attached one.
Run RomUpdateUtility.exe
If everything worked it will think you phone has ver 1.2 Rom so it will allow the 1.8 upgrade.
As always, try at your own risk...

Is this the rom i should be using? ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Im having problems finding the original Cingular 1.8 rom anywhere...

virtualsandwich said:
Is this the rom i should be using? ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Im having problems finding the original Cingular 1.8 rom anywhere...
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No.. Not CID unlocked, use the Cingular 1.8:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
before downgrading to a 1.x rom be sure your IPL/SPL version DOES NOT END WITH .0001

kyphur said:
virtualsandwich said:
Is this the rom i should be using? ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Im having problems finding the original Cingular 1.8 rom anywhere...
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No.. Not CID unlocked, use the Cingular 1.8:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
before downgrading to a 1.x rom be sure your IPL/SPL version DOES NOT END WITH .0001
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hi friend...
did you manage to unlocke the pda?

faria said:
hi friend...
did you manage to unlocke the pda?
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If you are asking me, mine has always been CID unlocked, just trying to help the new guys a bit...

kyphur said:
faria said:
hi friend...
did you manage to unlocke the pda?
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If you are asking me, mine has always been CID unlocked, just trying to help the new guys a bit...
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haa.. tough it was you

Alright i got it unlocked without replacing RUUGetInfo.exe, i downloaded the 1.8 rom, the phone took it without problem, then Lokiwiz worked like a charm after downgrading the rom. THANKS!

virtualsandwich said:
Alright i got it unlocked without replacing RUUGetInfo.exe, i downloaded the 1.8 rom, the phone took it without problem, then Lokiwiz worked like a charm after downgrading the rom. THANKS!
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So just to be clear, you had a brand new store bought or telesales Cingular 8125 CID locked with ipl / spl 2.25 and you simply re-flashed it with the stock Cingular 1.08 ROM - and it worked?
If you haven't re-flashed already, would you mind sharing the ipl / spl (and other) versions?

100Tbps said:
virtualsandwich said:
Alright i got it unlocked without replacing RUUGetInfo.exe, i downloaded the 1.8 rom, the phone took it without problem, then Lokiwiz worked like a charm after downgrading the rom. THANKS!
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So just to be clear, you had a brand new store bought or telesales Cingular 8125 CID locked with ipl / spl 2.25 and you simply re-flashed it with the stock Cingular 1.08 ROM - and it worked?
If you haven't re-flashed already, would you mind sharing the ipl / spl (and other) versions?
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humm ....yes... i would like to know that to...

Latest G3 Cingular ROM update worked
It works for me too. I just ran lockwiz3.0a to unlock SIM, than downgraded to ver 1.8. Then run lockwiz 2.0b to unlock CID and then install latest custom AKU3.0 ROM. Thanks everyone contributed to that forum.

Work for me. Here's what i did to my new (warranty exchange) 8125 with IPL/SPL 2.25
- unlock SIM lock with Lokiwiz03a
- downgrade to 1.08 with Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
- it now has IPL 1.08 and SPL 2.25
- unlock CID with Lokiwiz02b
- upgrade to PDAMobiz AKU2.3 v120 (the best ROM i've tried so far)
I believe you could skip SIM unlock with Lokiwiz03a and unlock both SIM and CID with Lokiwiz02b after downgrade to IPL1.08/SPL2.25.
dont know why other people in Lokiwiz03a thread said not to do unlock if IPL and SPL are not the same and will brick the phone. may be he had G4 chip.

kanate said:
dont know why other people in Lokiwiz03a thread said not to do unlock if IPL and SPL are not the same and will brick the phone. may be he had G4 chip.
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G4 phone can't downgrade at all. 1.x Roms do not have G4 Bootloaders.
A few users have had problems when their IPL/SPL versions don't match. So there is the possibility that you will brick your phone.
Did you bother going into the OS on the phone at all after the downgrade to unlock? or did you just connect it to USB and run lokiwiz?

kyphur said:
kanate said:
dont know why other people in Lokiwiz03a thread said not to do unlock if IPL and SPL are not the same and will brick the phone. may be he had G4 chip.
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G4 phone can't downgrade at all. 1.x Roms do not have G4 Bootloaders.
A few users have had problems when their IPL/SPL versions don't match. So there is the possibility that you will brick your phone.
Did you bother going into the OS on the phone at all after the downgrade to unlock? or did you just connect it to USB and run lokiwiz?
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Sure thing, you need to sync and go into the OS to install EnableRapi.cab in order to use Lokiwiz02b anyway.
After it's downgraded to IPL1.08/SPL2.25, I let the phone customized itself with all those cingular things and reboot again and install EnableRapi.cab and run Lokiwiz02b to unlock the CID

I have the IPL/SPL 2.25 version of the 8125 ROM.
For some reason, after unlocking with lokiwiz03a, downloading and unpacking etc the 1.8 ROM, i run it and get an ERROR 202: Connection, that it doesn't find my phone
The phone IS connected, synched etc etc. Could this be a problem because I'm running windows vista?
hmm.
edit: with windows xp, I can begin the flash (my 8125 goes to the tri-color, displays IPL and SPL of 2.25, but then the program throws an ERROR 260: UPDATE ERROR, then tells me the recovery steps (it always jsut boots to WINCE after this.)
Anyone know whats up?

Quote:
"Work for me. Here's what i did to my new (warranty exchange) 8125 with IPL/SPL 2.25"
key words being warranty exchange?
or will this work on a brand new one?
just thought I'd ask
and to Clutch: how's the phone now? How exactly does one know of the Ipl/Spl #'s?

I believe as long as it's G3 chip (IPL & SPL don't end with 0001), it should work.

final solution to cid unlock wizard g4 chip spl/ipl *.001

Please whats the best solution to making the wizard with G4 chip cid unlock ?
is it by going to http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php or
something else?
thank you very much in advance to those who know or can help

Re: final solution to cid unlock wizard g4 chip spl/ipl *.00
moyofalaye said:
Please whats the best solution to making the wizard with G4 chip cid unlock ?
is it by going to http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php or
something else?
thank you very much in advance to those who know or can help
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hy
Search the forum for "lokiwiz " (sorry, i dont have the thread) v. 2b should be able to unlock the CID. There is also version 3 available but i guess any will do.
You have to be logged in to be able to download it.
Good luck

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Nextasy said:
moyofalaye said:
Please whats the best solution to making the wizard with G4 chip cid unlock ?
is it by going to http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php or
something else?
thank you very much in advance to those who know or can help
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hy
Search the forum for "lokiwiz " (sorry, i dont have the thread) v. 2b should be able to unlock the CID. There is also version 3 available but i guess any will do.
You have to be logged in to be able to download it.
Good luck
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thank you very much. I have gone through if not all the threads about upgrading. I noticed that people who had the G4 chip had problems upgrading . and some people have also said that you cant unlock the cid of the G4 (spl/ipl with .001 at the end).
I am looking for how to acheive the unlocking of the cid, hence i will be able to do upgrades and downgrades as i wish.

I think http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php is good & cheaper for cid unlock, as compare to other method. The JAxxx method will cost you around EURO 85 to buy the dongle & 1 unlock credit & you have to wait for the dongle to arrive.
If you just want flashing PDA into other language on G4 PDA, you can use update_utility_no_id , no need cid unlock. Search this xda-developers.com forum for the tool.
Even after CID unlock, Downgrade a g4 rom to a g3 rom, from my experience, the radio will not run properly. A G4 PDA can only use a G4 rom. A G3 PDA can use a G4 rom , because the G4 shipped rom has 2 IPL & SPL, will fit both e.g. 2.21 IPL & 2.21.0001 IPL

Currently you are right - A G4 rom cannot be unlocked free via any software available on this site. If you truly want to unlock you're phone, you're going to have to pay.
That noted, you will always have to make sure that the ROM you're flashing will not replace your bootloader (which is a safe way to go anyway) or flash with a newer bootloader than what you have (which is the IPL/SPL 2.x). Do not ever go backwards (1.x bootloaders) because you will brick your device.
The only saving grace you can give an attempt to is the lokiwizMSL03a or lokiwiz03a programs by machinagod. I cannot confirm if these have or have not worked with a G4 chipset wizard.
Safe bet currently for G4 wizard owners - pay to get the thing unlocked; you won't brick your device.

mengesb said:
Currently you are right - A G4 rom cannot be unlocked free via any software available on this site. If you truly want to unlock you're phone, you're going to have to pay.
That noted, you will always have to make sure that the ROM you're flashing will not replace your bootloader (which is a safe way to go anyway) or flash with a newer bootloader than what you have (which is the IPL/SPL 2.x). Do not ever go backwards (1.x bootloaders) because you will brick your device.
The only saving grace you can give an attempt to is the lokiwizMSL03a or lokiwiz03a programs by machinagod. I cannot confirm if these have or have not worked with a G4 chipset wizard.
Safe bet currently for G4 wizard owners - pay to get the thing unlocked; you won't brick your device.
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Ok so if i was to use the http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php to cid unlock the g4 wizard, i wont need to worry about what rom im flashing, i wont need to worry about the spl/ipl ? So basically your saying all the flexibility of the G3 will be available for the G4 ?
Thanks again to everyone.

moyofalaye said:
Ok so if i was to use the http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php to cid unlock the g4 wizard, i wont need to worry about what rom im flashing, i wont need to worry about the spl/ipl ? So basically your saying all the flexibility of the G3 will be available for the G4 ?
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Wrong.....
The Custom "Cooked" Roms on this site only contain the IPL/SPL for G3 as that is the most common chip.
Also 1.x Roms have no G4 bootloaders.
Even CID unlocked you will be limited to "Official" Roms or "Cooked" Roms either missing Bootloader or specifically with G4 Bootloader.

kyphur said:
moyofalaye said:
Ok so if i was to use the http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php to cid unlock the g4 wizard, i wont need to worry about what rom im flashing, i wont need to worry about the spl/ipl ? So basically your saying all the flexibility of the G3 will be available for the G4 ?
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Wrong.....
The Custom "Cooked" Roms on this site only contain the IPL/SPL for G3 as that is the most common chip.
Also 1.x Roms have no G4 bootloaders.
Even CID unlocked you will be limited to "Official" Roms or "Cooked" Roms either missing Bootloader or specifically with G4 Bootloader.
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thanks that clears up alot of questions, one more thing i need to know, cause i have started working on the wiki. the G4 and the G3 versions, are they limited only to the tmobile vario or all types of wizards. ?

moyofalaye said:
thanks that clears up alot of questions, one more thing i need to know, cause i have started working on the wiki. the G4 and the G3 versions, are they limited only to the tmobile vario or all types of wizards. ?
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It can be any descendant of the Wizard from what I hear, either a model 100 or 200, be it a Cingular 8125, or a T-Mobile MDA. Always check your SPLs before flashing. The phone you save just may be your own.

mengesb said:
Safe bet currently for G4 wizard owners - pay to get the thing unlocked; you won't brick your device.
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Why pay for something you can have: free, better, safer???
Don't CID unlock your device, it's a waste of time and money. The best solution is, IMHO, to remove the IPL/SPL parts from the ROM you want to install: it'll take you only 2 minutes! This solution is also better than CID unlocking in three aspects:
- It's free. No need to comment on this
- It's better: in a CID unlocked G4 phone, you cannot install the home-made ROMs you find in this forum (like summitter's ones or MrClean). If you cook your own ROM, on the contrary, you can install whichever 2.x ROM you like
- It's safer: if you correctly remove the IPL and SPL parts from the ROM you want to install, the event of a major damage (bricking) is highly unlikely. Even if your PC crashes or there's a power outage in the middle of the upgrade you will still be able to boot your device and to repeat the upgrade!
To remove IPL/SPL from a ROM of your choice, you can follow this tutorial i wrote: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088
Bye

Cool. It is exactly that, what I wont know !!
So Can I cook my own ROM for G4 and G3 device (I have Extension ROM and Splash screen). It is be sufficient translate the ROM in "nb2nbf_tornado.exe"?
For example aku 3.2 Os and my own Extended ROM and Splash Screen.

Johnnnnnnnnnny said:
Cool. It is exactly that, what I wont know !!
So Can I cook my own ROM for G4 and G3 device (I have Extension ROM and Splash screen). It is be sufficient translate the ROM in "nb2nbf_tornado.exe"?
For example aku 3.2 Os and my own Extended ROM and Splash Screen.
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Yes!

Cool 2: :lol:
So I will make that ROM when I will have my device again. Perhaps I will share it if will work done
Need I the file enterbootloader.exe if I dont want to flash IPL/SPL ?

Johnnnnnnnnnny said:
Cool 2: :lol:
So I will make that ROM when I will have my device again. Perhaps I will share it if will work done
Need I the file enterbootloader.exe if I dont want to flash IPL/SPL ?
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You need all the files in the RUU archive. Just follow the tutorial i told you about. bye
Also: CAN YOU PLS CHANGE THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD??? IT SEEMS THAT YOU HAVE A WORKING SOLUTION BUT ACTUALLY IT IS THE OPPOSITE: YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT. ADD A "?" IN THE TITLE!

Confused about ROM install

Just after I got my 8125 I upgraded the ROM to 2.25. I didn't unlock anything. Its running fine. Now I'm interested to try a different ROM. I understand I will need to CID unlock my device. Here is where I'm confused, if it is possible or not after upgrading to 2.25? Can I follow the steps to downgrade my ROM and unlock the CID?
I have searched and been reading alot but I'm still a bit confused, so please be gentle as I ask for some guidance. I have experience modifying Motorola phones, but am new to PocketPC. Any help is appreciated.

Good if you can provide info on how you upgraded your unit (e.g. with the providers official ROM or with the software and ROMS in this forum, etc)
And how you intended to down grade your ROM? You also mentioned the 'steps' to follow, of which steps are you refering to?
And, why do you want to have your phone CID unlocked? CID lock will not bug most people unless they are going for a ROM flashing. CID lock is different from `phone lock` or `SIM lock`.
Just incase you are wonder, what is CID, ... don't ask me. I have no idea at all Seriously.

I upgraded a stock 8125 (G3) to the Cingular 2.25 official ROM. I would like to install a summiter or mr. clean custom ROM. Searching through the messages here I'm unable to determine for certain if I'm able to CID unlock from 2.25 on my own (for free), but I get the impression I cannot. I just want to know for sure before attempting anything further.
I won't need step-by-step instruction...just need to know what my options are at this point.
Last nite I tried to install the summiter ROM without the bootloader. And the install went fine and completed 100% without error. But after the reboot I found the flash didn't hold, it was basically like a hard reset.

First download and install the Cingular 1.8 Rom
If that works fine then you should be able to CID unlock.
If not then try downloading and installing the "Button 1.05" Rom.
If either of these dowgrades worked for you, searck for LokiWiz (use ver 0.2 for CID unlock) and follwo the instructions.
Next if you want to SIM Unlock find LokWiz MSL 0.3 as it does a better SIM unlock than the older LokiWiz. Again follow the instructions.
Now you should be good..

Sorry if I wasn't clear, but its the downgrading I am concerned about. I'm not certain if it is possible to downgrade (including bootloader) from 2.25 without the device being CID unlocked..?

Stinkfist said:
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but its the downgrading I am concerned about. I'm not certain if it is possible to downgrade (including bootloader) from 2.25 without the device being CID unlocked..?
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Having a G3 device you can downgrade.
You must downgrade to CID unlock unless you want to pay imei-check $40.00

kyphur said:
Having a G3 device you can downgrade.
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Perfect...I will try it.
You must downgrade to CID unlock unless you want to pay imei-check $40.00
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Yeah, that much I do understand. I definately want to avoid paying to unlock.
Thanks for your help! I'll let you know how it goes.

Success! SIM/CID unlocked.
IPL 2.24
SPL 2.24
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.24.10.1
Thanks kyphur, for taking a moment to point a noob down the right path.

kinda brick need to upgrade rom!

ok so i kinda f'ed up my phone..
the specs are
IPL:1.08
SPL:1.08
OS:1.8.11.1
and i decided to flash the radio rom 2.47.11 and now it freezes when i try to enter in my password at start up..i read that what i need to do is get it into bootloader and flash a 2.x rom on it but when i try to pres the reset button and the 2 buttons on the right side it just normally starts up..also how would i upgrade to a 2.x rom..or is there any way to downgrade back to the stock radio rom? also my phone is unlocked
thanks
keith
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could i downlod the RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship.exe rom and flash that onto my phone and have it work...still cant figure out how to get the bootloader screen to come up

yes after doing some more reading i realized i had to hold down the camera button and the start button until the bootloader came up..then i just pluged it in and ran the radio rom of 1.x and it worked yea!! mbe later i will try to upgrade the rom lol

CID unlock it while it is still working with your current ROM
IPL:1.08
SPL:1.08
OS:1.8.11.1
Then stick Molskis G3 ROM on it and you will be sorted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274316
for more info.

woudl i be able to go to htc.com and upgrade do the rom upgrade there without havin to cid unlock?

Yes, you can upgrade a Cing 8125 with the officially released Rom (as posted on HTC's Website) without CID unlocking your device.

i do not need to upgrade the IPL/SPL first since i have 1.08?

keith1569 said:
i do not need to upgrade the IPL/SPL first since i have 1.08?
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Official Rom Updates include the IPL/SPL. If you download and flash the Cingular 2.25 Rom you will have IPL/SPL 2.25 after the flash.

is that good or would i want to cid unlock my phone first?

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is that good or would i want to cid unlock my phone first?
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Keith,
If you plan to install cooked Roms then you should CID unlock your phone. Technically CID Unlocking voids your warranty (though I had no problems getting warranty exchange on two previous phones that were CID unlocked).
The main reason to CID Unlock is that you can then install most (generally all) Roms that exist for your device. The only exception would be a G4 only Rom (which has the G4 IPL/SPL only) as your phone is a G3.
If you don't CID unlock then you can't install non-cingular Roms that include IPL/SPL so basically you would have to cook your own Rom if T-Mobile released an OS update that you wanted to use.
I would suggest you do some more reading before you CID unlock or flash anything else to your device.

ok bro thanks for the detailed explanation. I will.def do a lot more reading before I flash my phone or cid unlock it..this is a great forum full of useful information

keith1569 said:
yes after doing some more reading i realized i had to hold down the camera button and the start button until the bootloader came up..then i just pluged it in and ran the radio rom of 1.x and it worked yea!! mbe later i will try to upgrade the rom lol
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Where did you get the radio rom from ????? Do you have a link ????

just type in 2.47 radio rom in a search

keith1569 said:
just type in 2.47 radio rom in a search
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Ok i'll search for it thought maybe you had a direct link lready ....

Listen, im sorry but i need help

Hey, ive been reading for a while but i still dont know exactly what to do to upgrade my tmobile mda. im pretty sure its the vario one. and it's image version is 1.8.10.104. its ipl and spl are both 1.08 so i think that means itsa g3 chip. I tried downloading a different rom but it just didnt work.
I just want the newest version. I have bluetooth stereo headphones and i would love to use them with this phone. Any help with be much aprreciated

jawnsixteen said:
Hey, ive been reading for a while but i still dont know exactly what to do to upgrade my tmobile mda. im pretty sure its the vario one. and it's image version is 1.8.10.104. its ipl and spl are both 1.08 so i think that means itsa g3 chip. I tried downloading a different rom but it just didnt work.
I just want the newest version. I have bluetooth stereo headphones and i would love to use them with this phone. Any help with be much aprreciated
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read the Sticky for the definitive guide to CID unlocking and upgrading G3 wizards.
If you follow every step in that tutorial you will:
a. have a CID unlocked wizard capable of being flashed with any wizard rom, custom or otherwise
b. you will KNOW that you device is CID unlocked because you did it yourself
c. ROM's will actually flash because your CID is unlocked.
NOTE: you currently have a 1.08 bootloader. You cannot flash a 2.xx custom rom until you upgrade your bootloader to 2.xx. The easiest way of doing this is flashing the much promoted T-Mobile 2.26 rom. Of course if you follow all the steps in the unlocking tutorial you will end up with IPL/SPL 2.26 and be CID unlocked.

ok, thank you
it says that it voids the warrenty
But i thought it was a made-by-tmobile download?
And can't i just reboot it to the original version i have right now if there are any problems or anything? Will the notice? is it possible?

jawnsixteen said:
ok, thank you
it says that it voids the warrenty
But i thought it was a made-by-tmobile download?
And can't i just reboot it to the original version i have right now if there are any problems or anything? Will the notice? is it possible?
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If you want WM6 you will be voiding your warranty as you won't be able to flash it unless you are CID unlocked.
There currently is not and most likely NEVER will be an official WM6 carrier rom for the Wizard.
If all you want is the latest carrier rom from your carrier then all you have to do is go to their website and download it and follow the instructions. You won't have to worry about CID or warranty voiding.
As for them noticing, maybe, maybe not. It really depends on who you talk to. If you stay with roms only made and released from your carrier you won't have anything to worry about as you can flash them without doing anything that will void your warranty.