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If what I have been reading is true, then TMobile USA is replacing the MDA with the Wing. I am dissappointed in this . From the specs I have seen and the overall look there really isn't much of a difference. I would like to see a Hermes type device or something "new" in the lineup. Looking on their website and not seeing (currently) a full WM device is a little strange. Also seeing both the SDA and Dash on there at the same time is a little strange IMO.
Anyonce else feel the same way?
I have htc touch diamond 2 but its look different because there is no front(little) camera ...whats that mean, its that a bad fake or maybe older model or something else?
thanks people
djolebl said:
I have htc touch diamond 2 but its look different because there is no front(little) camera ...whats that mean, its that a bad fake or maybe older model or something else?
thanks people
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this thread is for Touch Diamond DIAMx00
but, i think that is FAKE phone, so you don't want to flash it with custom ROM(may brick that brick)
My Diamonds (aka Dopod S900) are without front cam as well and neither WiFi nor 3G ...
This is the only "official" version of the Diamond you can get in some parts of the world ... still works fine with the custom-ROMs, though.
Hello guys, I am going to buy a new phone and I want either lg g flex or lg g3. My questions or doubts are as follows
Is the 720p resolution noticeable in such a big screen? I think 1440p is a total overkill for such a small display
Are the colours better in LG G flex? How is battery duration?
Is LG G flex TOO big? Is it comfortable? would you buy it again?
Last but not least, What would you pick?
I have a flex. I like the size but the lg software is a little behind say htc's. For instance, if your out and about, talking on the phone and need to look something up on the internet real quick, unless your connected to wifi you cannot access the web. For some reason, the lg software doesn't allow you to use your lte whilst on a call. It's a little getting at times. The pictures it takes are lacking as well. There is no stabilizer on the camera so you have to hold it very still when taking pics otherwise it's blurry. With a phone this size it makes taking "one-handed" pics a little hard. I hope this helps a little. If there's anything else you wanna know just ask. Thanks
How sharp is the screen? can you tell that it is 720p?
You really can't tell it's 720p. Nice crisp and bright. Sharp
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You really can't tell it's 720p. Nice crisp and bright. Sharp
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I agree and disagree. If it's your only phone and you have no reference you can't "really" tell. Hold it next to any 1080p screen, Note 3 for example and it becomes pretty apparent. That being said, I love the Flex.
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Desertio said:
I have a flex. I like the size but the lg software is a little behind say htc's. For instance, if your out and about, talking on the phone and need to look something up on the internet real quick, unless your connected to wifi you cannot access the web. For some reason, the lg software doesn't allow you to use your lte whilst on a call. It's a little getting at times. The pictures it takes are lacking as well. There is no stabilizer on the camera so you have to hold it very still when taking pics otherwise it's blurry. With a phone this size it makes taking "one-handed" pics a little hard. I hope this helps a little. If there's anything else you wanna know just ask. Thanks
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That actually has nothing to do with the software what-so-ever. The problem you describe is a network band issue. CDMA is notorious for this limitation and several phones on the CDMA network got around it by adding a separate radio specifically for data paths. S3 and I think the S4 and the older WiMAX phones like the Evo and such, but once they went to the "Tri-band" or Spark which is how Sprint wants to spin it (G2, G3, Flex, HTC M8, S5, etc etc.) They ditched the ability to talk and surf at the same time.
This isn't an issue on AT&T or T-Mobile because they are on GSM which supports dual modes regardless of the phone.
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That actually has nothing to do with the software what-so-ever. The problem you describe is a network band issue. CDMA is notorious for this limitation and several phones on the CDMA network got around it by adding a separate radio specifically for data paths. S3 and I think the S4 and the older WiMAX phones like the Evo and such, but once they went to the "Tri-band" or Spark which is how Sprint wants to spin it (G2, G3, Flex, HTC M8, S5, etc etc.) They ditched the ability to talk and surf at the same time.
This isn't an issue on AT&T or T-Mobile because they are on GSM which supports dual modes regardless of the phone.
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Correctomundo. No GSM phone ever has issues doing both. This is not a "Flex" or even an "LG" issue. Gosh I don't miss VZW.
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manupa14 said:
Hello guys, I am going to buy a new phone and I want either lg g flex or lg g3. My questions or doubts are as follows
Is the 720p resolution noticeable in such a big screen? I think 1440p is a total overkill for such a small display
Are the colours better in LG G flex? How is battery duration?
Is LG G flex TOO big? Is it comfortable? would you buy it again?
Last but not least, What would you pick?
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Many of your questions are really matters of opinion. If you think a super high res screen is overkill on a phone then why are you considering a G3?
- battery life on the flex is fantastic. Amongst the best I've ever used.
- colors...the G3 screen is better. It just is. Especially since you can adjust it in stock settings. Anyone saying otherwise is really just trying to justify their purchase. I'm not saying the Flex screen is bad, because it's not...it's just not better.
- is the flex too big? Only you can answer that. I dunno if you have Andre the Giant sized hands or hands the size of a lawn Gnome's. The Flex's size was fine for me but I have large hands. I use a Nexus 6 just fine when many think that is too big.
- should you get it? Honestly? If it comes down to cost and you can find one cheap enough the Flex is a great phone. I picked one up just the other day for under $200. But, price aside, I'd go with the G3. Replaceable battery, SD card support, better screen, better camera with OIS (optical image stabilization) and it's more future proof. Both phones are getting replaced but the G3's specs are closer to today's market. Good news is you can't go wrong with either.
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manupa14 said:
Hello guys, I am going to buy a new phone and I want either lg g flex or lg g3. My questions or doubts are as follows
Is the 720p resolution noticeable in such a big screen? I think 1440p is a total overkill for such a small display
Are the colours better in LG G flex? How is battery duration?
Is LG G flex TOO big? Is it comfortable? would you buy it again?
Last but not least, What would you pick?
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If its in your price range, G Flex 2 would be an awesome middle ground.
1080p on a 5.5", SD810 makes it faster than G Flex even though higher resolution.
Havent seen any battery tests, but has to be better than G3, but maybe not as awesome as G Flex.
I've played around with the g3 for a little bit. It's a very nice device, and has a lot going for it. It's got a nice crisp screen, SD card support, removable battery, and a much better camera.
But, the g3 just does not perform well in regards to battery life. My flex can easily get me through the day with heavy usage. I'm talking Bluetooth media streaming, YouTube videos, a whole bunch of web browsing, some pictures, and your other daily stuff.
If you looking to buy out right the flex is not a bad choice, considering that you can find it for under 250 right now. But if you're looking for a little more support especially here on XDA, getting the g3 now or waiting for the GF2 are definitely not bad choices either.
And if you're into benchmark scores, I've got mine rooted with exposed and I'm easily pulling 42000 in antutu. That's easily on par with the g3 and the HTC One m8.
Thank you all for answering, you have cleared my doubts, I decided to go for the OnePlus One in the end
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Thank you all for answering, you have cleared my doubts, I decided to go for the OnePlus One in the end
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Can't go wrong. 1+ is a great phone, one of my personal favorites.
ATB
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Upgrade from Nexus 4
I was looking for a phone to upgrade to from my Nexus 4 for under $250 and this seems to be the best option. Thoughts? I'm on AT&T network so I was looking at D950 version.
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I've played around with the g3 for a little bit. It's a very nice device, and has a lot going for it. It's got a nice crisp screen, SD card support, removable battery, and a much better camera.
But, the g3 just does not perform well in regards to battery life. My flex can easily get me through the day with heavy usage. I'm talking Bluetooth media streaming, YouTube videos, a whole bunch of web browsing, some pictures, and your other daily stuff.
If you looking to buy out right the flex is not a bad choice, considering that you can find it for under 250 right now. But if you're looking for a little more support especially here on XDA, getting the g3 now or waiting for the GF2 are definitely not bad choices either.
And if you're into benchmark scores, I've got mine rooted with exposed and I'm easily pulling 42000 in antutu. That's easily on par with the g3 and the HTC One m8.
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What is the Antutu score with stock rom? What is "exposed"? Is it a custom rom?
My scores are on stock ROM D95020b, rooted, debloated, with xposed framework.
The only other ROM out there is an unfinished cm11... And I'm not touching it until sound and calls work, if it ever will.
After all this debate on whether this thing has WiFi support or now, I decided to tear mine apart to provide some better shots of the internals than the crap iFixit teardown.
Tonight, I'll be seeing someone to see if we can get that metal shroud off without damaging the board.
Disassembly Album
Edit: Updated the album with closeup shots of the ICs
Current parts list:
SK Hynix H9TU32A4GDMC-LRKGM - PoP 512 MB LPDDR2 + 4 GB eMMC (same as G Watch)
Qualcomm PM8226 - Power Management IC (same as G Watch)
Qualcomm WCD9302 - Audio Codec (not in G Watch?)
AKM AK8963 - Compass IC (same as G Watch)
Synaptics S3526B - Touch controller (different model in G Watch)
InvenSense MPU-6515 (?) - 3 axis gyro and accelerometer (same as G Watch)
Broadcom BCM4343WKUBG - Bluetooth 4.2 and WiFi b/g/n (different from G Watch)
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After all this debate on whether this thing has WiFi support or now, I decided to tear mine apart to provide some better shots of the internals than the crap iFixit teardown.
Tonight, I'll be seeing someone to see if we can get that metal shroud off without damaging the board.
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Thats awesome man! Looking forward to the pics.
I got the shielding off and as LG claimed, the Broadcom chip (BCM4343WKUBG) supports WiFi. Pics are in my album.
It's also very likely that their "no antenna" excuse is total BS. Given that this specific BCM4343 SKU is specifically designed for WiFi+BT in wearables, Broadcom would be stupid to require 2 antennas in such a small device when 1 would suffice.
Adding further evidence for WiFi support is commits from LG employees working specifically on BCM4343 WiFi support in Android 5.1:
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...an/+/1a8bf7a905f23a1f2948dcbc6a101b443233917e
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...an/+/69ffc0b6785198631bf617a6bad44c51c997fd49
Good job!
Yet LG are still denying that the R is capable of utilizing wifi at all. I guess if it is just LG dragging their feet and the hardware is all there, hopefully someone will port the Urbane kernel for us. Fingers crossed.
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Yet LG are still denying that the R is capable of utilizing wifi at all. I guess if it is just LG dragging their feet and the hardware is all there, hopefully someone will port the Urbane kernel for us. Fingers crossed.
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Actually theyve yet to come with an official answer. Which is weird.
I've said it once and I'll said it again, none of the LG customer service reps know the answer to the wifi question. You can call and ask and get a different answer everytime. If the hardware does in fact exist, as the evidence does indicate, then either LG is purposely disabling it to push sales of their watch urbane or we will get the update. We will find out soon enough. If it turns out that WiFi support is purposely omitted then I trust the hive mind that is XDA will figure out how to get it working.
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I've said it once and I'll said it again, none of the LG customer service reps know the answer to the wifi question. You can call and ask and get a different answer everytime. If the hardware does in fact exist, as the evidence does indicate, then either LG is purposely disabling it to push sales of their watch urbane or we will get the update. We will find out soon enough. If it turns out that WiFi support is purposely omitted then I trust the hive mind that is XDA will figure out how to get it working.
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Apparently LG has tweeted about it not having the correct hardware. But i agree with you. These people are probably regular everyday idiots hired just to tweet or answer phones and they have no idea what theyre actually saying. Anyway, i just made this post in another thread about this: forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60384338&postcount=65
Google are responsible for all current software on Wear devices, LG shouldn't have anything to do with whether the update has wifi or not, if the hardware is capable.
very good job
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Google are responsible for all current software on Wear devices, LG shouldn't have anything to do with whether the update has wifi or not, if the hardware is capable.
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Nope, lg can retouch the update a bit before releasing it!
Great thread - the news we've been hoping for!
Very good job !!
thx cgutman :good:
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Nope, lg can retouch the update a bit before releasing it!
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A bit, doesn't mean remove features.
In a frustrated attempt at an explanation regarding wifi capability of R, one of LG's European workers, when confronted with the FCC report that says the clock has everything you need for wifi, it said that there are differences between the US and european versions and in particular one of the differences would be even wifi (how convenient)!
So the question is ...
Can anyone confirm if there really is a difference between the versions!
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In a frustrated attempt at an explanation regarding wifi capability of R, one of LG's European workers, when confronted with the FCC report that says the clock has everything you need for wifi, it said that there are differences between the US and european versions and in particular one of the differences would be even wifi (how convenient)!
So the question is ...
Can anyone confirm if there really is a difference between the versions!
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Bs on bs, that's what i think!
This is definitely the last LG product I will purchase. It's complete and utter BS that they can't get this right.
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Bs on bs, that's what i think!
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Totally agree with you! However in the end it will be the LG that will decide whether appeals to customers who purchased the Watch R or will be greedy and will want to foist the same device but masi polished for another 100 euros / dollars!
However should be aware that displease old customers will not certainly draw new or maintain they already have !!!
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This is definitely the last LG product I will purchase. It's complete and utter BS that they can't get this right.
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Did you buy the watch on the promise that it would some day support WiFi? probably not..
Do you expect these customer support people that you've been contacting to really have a clue as to what the future plans of LG are concerning this watch?
Is LG being unusually quiet about this? Yes! But they are probably just taking the "safe" approach.
People complain about features they were never even promised. I can only imagine the feedback they'd get if they made a statement that they couldn't back up.
Just my opinion...
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Did you buy the watch on the promise that it would some day support WiFi? probably not..
Do you expect these customer support people that you've been contacting to really have a clue as to what the future plans of LG are concerning this watch?
Is LG being unusually quiet about this? Yes! But they are probably just taking the "safe" approach.
People complain about features they were never even promised. I can only imagine the feedback they'd get if they made a statement that they couldn't back up.
Just my opinion...
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The question is...
If the Watch R really haves the capability of Wi-Fi, why LG don't allow? What they earn? People with a 6 months old device leave it and buy almost the same but more expensive? I don't believe!
But in other hand if the watch really don't have the capability... then bad luck!
The problem is that according with a lot of information and even the Watch release presentation that don't seems to be the case! And like others brands (LG is not alone in this behavior) they are being grief!
LineageOS apparently de-certified the H811 build of LOS 14.1 in late November because of some bug(s) in that series. The last available nightly is dated 2017-11-28.)
But I can't figure out where to go to find out what the problem was or what the status is. Any pointers would be appreciated, thanks.
(My G4 has run flawlessly with absolutely no bootloop or hardware failure of any kind, ever, so I'd really hope it will continue to be supported in LOS)
I think I found the reason for the cessation of builds for h811 at the moment - a bug with storage encryption on at least 2 variants of LG G4:
https://jira.lineageos.org/browse/BUGBASH-498
Perhaps I should start a thread in the LOS section to track the status? Don't really want to have to create an Lineage dev account just to track this bug...
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LineageOS apparently de-certified the H811 build of LOS 14.1 in late November because of some bug(s) in that series. The last available nightly is dated 2017-11-28.)
But I can't figure out where to go to find out what the problem was or what the status is. Any pointers would be appreciated, thanks.
(My G4 has run flawlessly with absolutely no bootloop or hardware failure of any kind, ever, so I'd really hope it will continue to be supported in LOS)
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You can use my unofficial LOS on h811 since today
To put it simply, the G4 sucks. No one is interested in developing or fixing bugs for such an unpopular and buggy device that few still use or buy. The main issue here is the bootloop caused by poorly assembled motherboards. The emmc and RAM/Qualcomm Snapdragon CPUs were not well soldered onto the motherboard, and/or overheated and expanded. LG has neglected to fix their defective G4, V10, and Nexus 5x (deplorable that a Google phone has to be significantly defective) beyond their warranty period, given this issue they should extend it. And finally LG's stupid bootloader locks on anything but the H815 and H811 models. Why does AT&T and Verizon get to decide the software that's loaded onto my device? Heck, my ISP in the forseeable future won't require my computer to have a locked bootloader. Why are Mobile Network providers raping consumers and becoming more than a service provider? They're becoming hardware and software manufacturers, it's not a good thing for them to step in like that. IMO a community developed ROM will always be better than anything LG could ever make, their ROMs are and will be forged by us. Last time I remembered, ALL G3 variants were bootloader unlocked with the stock 10a/b/c/d/x firmwares, and can be modded out-of-the-box. I also promise that LG and all carriers will no longer provide security updates to the G3, G4, and V10. Verizon and AT&T's phones will not get nougat as promised. blobs
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To put it simply, the G4 sucks. No one is interested in developing or fixing bugs for such an unpopular and buggy device that few still use or buy. The main issue here is the bootloop caused by poorly assembled motherboards. The emmc and RAM/Qualcomm Snapdragon CPUs were not well soldered onto the motherboard, and/or overheated and expanded. LG has neglected to fix their defective G4, V10, and Nexus 5x (deplorable that a Google phone has to be significantly defective) beyond their warranty period, given this issue they should extend it. And finally LG's stupid bootloader locks on anything but the H815 and H811 models. Why does AT&T and Verizon get to decide the software that's loaded onto my device? Heck, my ISP in the forseeable future won't require my computer to have a locked bootloader. Why are Mobile Network providers raping consumers and becoming more than a service provider? They're becoming hardware and software manufacturers, it's not a good thing for them to step in like that. IMO a community developed ROM will always be better than anything LG could ever make, their ROMs are and will be forged by us. Last time I remembered, ALL G3 variants were bootloader unlocked with the stock 10a/b/c/d/x firmwares, and can be modded out-of-the-box. I also promise that LG and all carriers will no longer provide security updates to the G3, G4, and V10. Verizon and AT&T's phones will not get nougat as promised. blobs
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No one buys any smartphone more than 12-18 months after its introduction today because that's about the market lifespan of a smartphone now. (With the possible exception of Apple) So people not buying them any more isn't really the reason one older device gets more support than another older device.
Yes, I recognize that LG had production problems with the G4 but the one I'm typing this on atm has been 100% flawless for at least 9 months now and I'm not even the original owner.
Re: locked bootloaders and carrier control over software, little to none of that is LG's fault, talk to your politicians about having created a business-environment in the USA that panders to corporations and sticks it to the customers.
Re: your PC, I suggest you learn about Microsoft's "secure boot" swindle that is part of most PCs sold retail in the US these days if you really think Wintel boxes are a fountain of user freedom, lol.