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I am going to switch my hermes into something new, I have the S730, HTC Touch, Touch Dual and Kaiser in my hands right now, and I just cant decide!!
and if that wasn't enough, I also have the Cruise to choose as well.
But which one? I really like the Touch models (leaning toward the Htc Touch and not the Dual) because of their size, they are perfect to just have in your pocket. However, GPS and 3G would be nice! and that has the Kaiser and the Cruise. So there it is just a matter of keyboard and fat or no keyboard and slim.
what should I choose? i don't use the keyboard that much, but hey, it is there waiting for me and it is alot faster typing with the keyboard, but on the other hand, slim is nice too..
what would you have choosen?
Kaiser can do a lot more that the oter phones.
But all of them have 1 problem. VIDEO DRIVERS
Why would you buy from HTC again after this latest debacle? Look at the new imates or the Eten phones.
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Why would you buy from HTC again after this latest debacle? Look at the new imates or the Eten phones.
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first of all we don't have eten or Imates in sweden (as far as I know), second I would like to have the Iphone, which is also not availible in sweden, third, my company has settled for htc as their product of choice. I am aware of the driver problems, but not sure how that inflect with a business phone as kaiser for example.
cause this affects 3d and video performance which is not my first priority (although it certainly is nice to watch videos and play some games once in a while)
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Why would you buy from HTC again after this latest debacle? Look at the new imates or the Eten phones.
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Somebody tell me if I'm wrong here but aren't iMates just re-branded HTC units?? AFIAK...
The only thing they change is the start-up screen and a few app's!!
In fact, the last ROM update I had from them for my iMate JasJam (Wizard) still had the HTC boot screen on it.
Htc diamond is pretty impressive with its 3D touch flo,etc etc however Htc is also about to release the Htc Raphael aka T-Mobile Vario IV which had all the features of Htc diamond PLUS a lot of extras eg...
Sliding qwerty keyboard like Tytn II
Double the ROM from 256mb to 512mb
Double the RAM from 128mb to 256mb
Micro sd card slot(diamond has none)
Cpu clock speed from 400mhz to 528mhz, etc
Details are as below
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1320&view=1
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1306&view=1
Needless to say if u had not committed to buy the diamond yet hold your horses for about 1 month later approximately u can have better value for money in buying the htc raphael instead.
The only con is that the raphael is slightly heavier at 160gm instead of 110gm for diamond
Sliding qwerty keyboard like Tytn II <-- yes
Double the ROM from 256mb to 512mb <-- yes
Double the RAM from 128mb to 256mb <-- diamond has 192mb ram
Micro sd card slot(diamond has none) <-- yes, but no built in 4GB
Cpu clock speed from 400mhz to 528mhz <-- Use same core platform, CPU speed and graphics etc are identical
You forgot
1340 mAh battery (vario) as opposed to the 900 mAh (diamond)
Vario is 17mm thick, Diamond is 11.3 mm thick
Really the BIGGEST plus for diamond is size, and that IS whats going to decide it for most people. There is a significant difference in the volume of the two phones. You will see many people who are more interested in a style phone to show of to their non WM using friends buying a diamond, and more hardcore WM fans buying the vario.
Anyway, everyone knew the Vario was on its way, pictures of both were leaked at the same time.
oh and expect the vario to cost more too.
PS wrong place for this topic.. there's already one about diamond vs raphael (aka vario) in the corect place: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396150
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PS wrong place for this topic.. there's already one about diamond vs raphael (aka vario) in the corect place: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396150
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Not really!
The Raphael and Vario differs in specs and they are not the same.
Read the specs carefully on both of these!
The Vario has better specs!!
Double the ROM from 256mb to 512mb
and the RAM from 128mb to 256mb
The ROM and RAM on Raphael is same as Diamond!
KOR!
Vario vs Diamond
The biggest 2 problems that I can see with the Vario are these... First of all, that sliding keyboard is great... but it has been confirmed that there is NO tilt such as seen on the tytn II!
The other biggest problem is the obvious measly 256 Ram. I know you COULD put a chip in, but be honest... 4gb internal memory is a much better option.
Bearing in mind that i recieve about 200 emails a DAY (IT manager!) the diamond just makes much more sense! I use a universal at the moment, and have pre-ordered the Diamond. That lack of tilit screen convinced me to wait for the "second Gen" versions of this series!
I already carry a "monster" around with me. but now i want something that is both stylish and practical. The diamond simply fits that bill! Smart enough to replace my Uni, and also enables me to do stuff like have email on the go, and super fast browsing and vid conferencing. AND i am getting fed up with people brandashing IPhones and wanting me buy one.. Coz its apple!
You also forgot to mention that this device has a tv-out!
this device?
which one? diamond definitely doesnt
so im guessing you meant raphael
thats a gimmick, ive got it on my athena, and in the box they give you vga out cable, not tv out. tv out costs 15 quid extra.
and i have never used it anyway
Rory
Yeah i mean the VARIO.
Go to a friends place, connect your phone to the tv with the tv out and play movies from your 8gb microsd card (or higher... just takes time.)
Go to work, put your presentation on your phone connect it to the beamer and give your presentation .
If these things are really possible, i'd definitely use the tv-out. I never had a phone with this so i dont know how easy to use it is though...
yeah everybody know, just like iphone 2.5->3G . they alway to limit their best technology to suck our pocket! how come a vga on 2.8" and 900mA battery... is today use,
just the UI
No not 256mb Ram but 288mb Ram
Read here and here and here
and it's 18.05 mm instead of 17mm
Alfredos said:
No not 256mb Ram but 288mb Ram
Read here and here and here
and it's 18.05 mm instead of 17mm
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and also here
regards
What about the Touch Pro? Or is that that HTC Raphael?
Yes, the HTC Touch Pro and the HTC Raphael are one and the same.
I currently own a HTC TyTN II and I want to switch to this phone too.
I've made a nice comparison table. I will now translate it to English (from Dutch) and then I will post it.
Someone from another (german) forum guessed that Diamond and Raphael are the same except keyboard and sd-slot. He found a setting in the registry about tv-out, too.
BTW: The Diamond has 528mhz, too.
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Not really!
The Raphael and Vario differs in specs and they are not the same.
Read the specs carefully on both of these!
The Vario has better specs!!
Double the ROM from 256mb to 512mb
and the RAM from 128mb to 256mb
The ROM and RAM on Raphael is same as Diamond!
KOR!
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That is simply not true. The HTC Raphael (aka Touch Pro) is indentical in spec to the Vario. They are the SAME device just with a slightly different casing and of course the T-Mobile customised ROM.
The Vario IV and the Raphael will both have the same ROM/RAM capacities.
TV-Out
well, as we all know the raph. and the diam. seem to share the same hardware.
so, i was wondering if any of you guys already:
a) either know how the raph. accomplishes that? (extra cable like with iphone) - plugged into what? the usb?
and
b) if there´s any chance to get that working on the diamond too.
anybody able to enlighten me about that?
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well, as we all know the raph. and the diam. seem to share the same hardware.
so, i was wondering if any of you guys already:
a) either know how the raph. accomplishes that? (extra cable like with iphone) - plugged into what? the usb?
and
b) if there´s any chance to get that working on the diamond too.
anybody able to enlighten me about that?
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when at London Diamond launch I seem to remember the Diamond linked live to a video wall unsure if this is only on development platform of the phone, the VGA of this HTC res makes this a more interesting project
someone1234 said:
You will see many people who are more interested in a style phone to show of to their non WM using friends buying a diamond, and more hardcore WM fans buying the vario.
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Not necessarily. Some hardcore WM fans would undoubedly want to make WM seem more stylish, so it becomes more popular and therefore more rapidly, and better, developed.
TarKin said:
well, as we all know the raph. and the diam. seem to share the same hardware.
so, i was wondering if any of you guys already:
a) either know how the raph. accomplishes that? (extra cable like with iphone) - plugged into what? the usb?
and
b) if there´s any chance to get that working on the diamond too.
anybody able to enlighten me about that?
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The HTC specs page seems to imply that the TV Out is through their 'HTC ExtUSB™', which the Diamond has. So, therefore, with the right cable and software, you might be able to get TV Out on the Diamond. However, it probably requires special drivers and stuff that will never be made compatible with the Diamond (otherwise HTC would have put that feature on the Diamond too).
and this is in the diamond rom development because????
RobbinM said:
Yes, the HTC Touch Pro and the HTC Raphael are one and the same.
I currently own a HTC TyTN II and I want to switch to this phone too.
I've made a nice comparison table. I will now translate it to English (from Dutch) and then I will post it.
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Dark Fire said:
The HTC specs page seems to imply that the TV Out is through their 'HTC ExtUSB™', which the Diamond has. So, therefore, with the right cable and software, you might be able to get TV Out on the Diamond. However, it probably requires special drivers and stuff that will never be made compatible with the Diamond (otherwise HTC would have put that feature on the Diamond too).
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You are right in that the connector is the same externally, however internally they are slightly different, and that a few additional discrete passive components are required to enable TV Out.
It is unlikely that these are fitted as default. One thing is clear however that the Qualcomm chip used does support TV out, so if the main PCB tracking is common between the two devices, then there is a possibility that the tracking is already in place for the diamond!
Well what does this mean, well it means that there is a chance is could be made to work on the diamond, but I wouldn’t hold your breath!
Hi.
I need a new phone, as i just lost my motorolla A920, AND permanetely bricked my Universal (very bricked, very dead, no bootloadermode or anything). I was looking for something unlocked, perhaps around the 300-400$ mark.
I want something with an X-scale processor, VGA screen, and perhaps maby a real GPU (useful gpu a.k.a not ATI's imageon(as i have never found one program that actually uses it.)). QWERTY keyboard would be cool, but not vital. Support for SDHC or Compact flash woud be preffered. And windows mobile . And working drivers *Stares at HTC Diamond*. (Isnt it a shame the Axim isnt a phone )
Im in australia, sydney-ish area, incase anyone here wants to sell me one (would only be pickup)
Was looking on eBay, may be possible to pick up a O2 Xda Flame for 400$. Its big but that doesnt bother me (at all), and i could buy a bigger/more batteries, as not hugely concerned about battery life (i can charge it everyday if needed). Must be unlocked, no plan, just buy outright.
Anyone have any suggestions/reccomendations?
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Hi.
I need a new phone, as i just lost my motorolla A920, AND permanetely bricked my Universal (very bricked, very dead, no bootloadermode or anything). I was looking for something unlocked, perhaps around the 300-400$ mark.
I want something with an X-scale processor, VGA screen, and perhaps maby a real GPU (useful gpu a.k.a not ATI's imageon(as i have never found one program that actually uses it.)). QWERTY keyboard would be cool, but not vital. Support for SDHC or Compact flash woud be preffered. And windows mobile . And working drivers *Stares at HTC Diamond*. (Isnt it a shame the Axim isnt a phone )
Im in australia, sydney-ish area, incase anyone here wants to sell me one (would only be pickup)
Was looking on eBay, may be possible to pick up a O2 Xda Flame for 400$. Its big but that doesnt bother me (at all), and i could buy a bigger/more batteries, as not hugely concerned about battery life (i can charge it everyday if needed). Must be unlocked, no plan, just buy outright.
Anyone have any suggestions/reccomendations?
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Visit the marketplace section, you´ll find a large variety of HTC phones for selling, even some members from Australia
Good luck,
Well I'll have you know my next phone is going to be a nokia n82. The thing is blazing fast, it can play quake 3 at 25fps, every game and emulator you can imagine, the camera is great, extremely fast shutter speed, xenon flash.
it's just a basic candybar phone, packed with lots of features.
But as far as windows mobile, I dont know. I've pretty much given up on windows mobile until there is something fast. WM is kind of behind in speed versus other devices and OS's.
Thanks for the increadibly fast replies.
That nokia looks a little too... 'generic nokia' for my taste. The A920, Universal (and that Flame) look better for design (because they do, thats why). And i would prefer WM, none-the-less. Im not concerned about the camera (forgot this part in the first post). it doesnt even have to have a camera, i never used it on the other phones. the phone is not limited to HTC.
Alexandertnt said:
Hi.
I need a new phone, as i just lost my motorolla A920, AND permanetely bricked my Universal (very bricked, very dead, no bootloadermode or anything). I was looking for something unlocked, perhaps around the 300-400$ mark.
I want something with an X-scale processor, VGA screen, and perhaps maby a real GPU (useful gpu a.k.a not ATI's imageon(as i have never found one program that actually uses it.)). QWERTY keyboard would be cool, but not vital. Support for SDHC or Compact flash woud be preffered. And windows mobile . And working drivers *Stares at HTC Diamond*. (Isnt it a shame the Axim isnt a phone )
Im in australia, sydney-ish area, incase anyone here wants to sell me one (would only be pickup)
Was looking on eBay, may be possible to pick up a O2 Xda Flame for 400$. Its big but that doesnt bother me (at all), and i could buy a bigger/more batteries, as not hugely concerned about battery life (i can charge it everyday if needed). Must be unlocked, no plan, just buy outright.
Anyone have any suggestions/reccomendations?
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little off-topic, any chance you selling the uni?
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little off-topic, any chance you selling the uni?
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I would rather get it fixed, but i dont think there is any hope in hell of fixing it without some specialised equiptment or something, it does nothing except for the 2 status lights flash. Tried bootloader/hard reset mode, just doesnt do anything. Would appreciate some help to get it back to life though, its just so cool.
If i could trade it in for another phone (or reduced cost for the phone) than maby.
The flame will work in australia right? If so is it a reliable phone. Im aware of its size.
If it does work in australia and can get it at the right price, i will, but in the (very likely) event that i cant, i would want to know what people would reccomend.
As a backup i was also eyeing a HTC TyTN, perhaps not as powerful, but looks decent. Although if i cant get a flame, i would really want a universal (a working one). Its just so cool full stop.
Also, im also known as bobisgod... if that rings any bells...
Also, im also known as bobisgod... if that rings any bells..
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from IRC?
Tried the universal bootloader again (and again (and again)) and still nothing at all on the screen, only the status lights flash.
Will look at the flame now, or as a backup TyTn. any other ideas on phones / places to buy flame in australia / ideas to get universal back to life?
Alexandertnt said:
Thanks for the increadibly fast replies.
That nokia looks a little too... 'generic nokia' for my taste. The A920, Universal (and that Flame) look better for design (because they do, thats why). And i would prefer WM, none-the-less. Im not concerned about the camera (forgot this part in the first post). it doesnt even have to have a camera, i never used it on the other phones. the phone is not limited to HTC.
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ah ok, you're right, it does look kind of basic, but if only you could see what it does..
I'll show you some links, and if that doesn't convince you then I'm off of your back
Camera:
These pics taken with the N82 were awarded:
http://web.me.com/jamesburland/Noki..._Creative_N82_Photo_Awards_-_Winter_2009.html
Amazing, these comparison shots were taken in the pitch black:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd57Ki9N21M
Xenon flash can capture a still fan blade in motion!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qIYtFkJEh4
Quake 3:
Great Video, shows that you as the user have great control, and gameplay is smooth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utWUz6nLXkk
Quake 3 with TV Out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1i4fOCrCv0
Yes this is the N95, but the n82 also has an accelrometer, you can use it to turn and aim if you wish (great video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl91gQikaog
alright im done! lol, I just really want this phone.
Sergey_Ace said:
Cubot One
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Thanks a heap for bumping a old thread -_-.
Its Going To Be LEGEND--wait for it--DARY!-Barney Stinson(How I Met Your Mother)
Sergey_Ace said:
Cubot One
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Ahh, flash back 2009. But really Cubot one!? An HTC One knockoff!?
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geniune htc diamond2 phones?
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is this geniune htc diamond2 mpobile phone ? = http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3-2-WQVGA-WM6-...item3ef9d74765
it seems to be geniune if i google the model t5355 , seems amazon is also selling the same phone but at 300 , then ebay seller is selling them at buy it now 140 !!!
any one know the real reason behind them ?
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geniune htc diamond2 phones?
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is this geniune htc diamond2 mpobile phone ? = http://cgi.-WM6-...item3ef9d74765
it seems to be geniune if i google the model t5355 , seems amazon is also selling the same phone but at 300 , then ebay seller is selling them at buy it now 140 !!!
any one know the real reason behind them ?
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the page doesent work but looking at the url "ebay.co.uk/3-2-WQVGA" sumat sounds not rite cuz the diamond 2 is wvga not wqvga lol
oopsie i knew it was too good to be true
here it is 3.2" WQVGA WM6.1 Black Diamond 2 GPS Smart Phone T5355
WI-FI Java FM GPS Navigation 3.2MP Cam Touch FLO 528Mhz
Item number: 270479607653
yes i thought so as it said black diamond rather then touch diamond, as well as 5mp camera compared to 3.2 mp as well
cv65user said:
oopsie i knew it was too good to be true
here it is 3.2" WQVGA WM6.1 Black Diamond 2 GPS Smart Phone T5355
WI-FI Java FM GPS Navigation 3.2MP Cam Touch FLO 528Mhz
Item number: 270479607653
yes i thought so as it said black diamond rather then touch diamond, as well as 5mp camera compared to 3.2 mp as well
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it sounds like one of them nasty cloned diamond 2 they make in japan lol
Check this article about a cloned touch diamond
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4146.html
mancsoulja said:
it sounds like one of them nasty cloned diamond 2 they make in japan lol
Check this article about a cloned touch diamond
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4146.html
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like those shepherd's pies they make in france
Hello
I want to buy Xperia z1 and I need your help..I have noticed there are some models which have problems with touch screen
some models have another panel for screen and this kind of problems..and because there is not any support center of sony in our country I can't send my phone back in case of finding any problem..So please help me how to find out my phone doesn't have any problem that I mentioned.Ho I can which model is fake and which one id not..
Thanks in advance
The problematic model is a mistery, but the made in Brazil ones FOR SURE are having assembly issues and causing touch screen problems.... China version is having too, but not with all phones (mine is made in china and is working perfectly).....
But to test leave the phone on a flat surface, wait 30 sec and try to scroll a page, or run any app that makes the phone goes hot and test if the touch will fail.... Make those tests in the store to make sure.
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The problematic model is a mistery, but the made in Brazil ones FOR SURE are having assembly issues and causing touch screen problems.... China version is having too, but not with all phones (mine is made in china and is working perfectly).....
But to test leave the phone on a flat surface, wait 30 sec and try to scroll a page, or run any app that makes the phone goes hot and test if the touch will fail.... Make those tests in the store to make sure.
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Thanks for your answer..As I know all phones in my country are made in China so there is chance to have problem..Beside the touch problem do you know any other problems it might have and I must be aware about it?
am2222 said:
Thanks for your answer..As I know all phones in my country are made in China so there is chance to have problem..Beside the touch problem do you know any other problems it might have and I must be aware about it?
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Not that im aware of, i believe that touch is the only issue, but dont be afraid to buy, this phone is a MONSTER!!!!
My Z1 is made in China, and sometimes i do get a touch screen problem when i am sending message, but it backs to normal after I lock and reopen the phone(but it rarely happens), and I ever got a camera issue when taking too much photo, the camera became error and unavailable, and extremely hot around the camera, waterproof, battery life etc are okay.
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Not that im aware of, i believe that touch is the only issue, but dont be afraid to buy, this phone is a MONSTER!!!!
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Thank you for your information..How do you use camra?do you use manual or automatic?I heared images has lots of noise?
Riaes said:
My Z1 is made in China, and sometimes i do get a touch screen problem when i am sending message, but it backs to normal after I lock and reopen the phone(but it rarely happens), and I ever got a camera issue when taking too much photo, the camera became error and unavailable, and extremely hot around the camera, waterproof, battery life etc are okay.
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So you forced camra problems..Do you think it is common problem?How many images do you take and this problem appeared?
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Thank you for your information..How do you use camra?do you use manual or automatic?I heared images has lots of noise?
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Yes, the images have a lot of noise and this is related to Software only. Was already confirmed it will be improved with the new FW. BTW in Automatic the camera do pictures in 8mpx only and sometime this settings are better for low-light, in Manual the camera do pictures in 20mpx and you have to play with settings, the only issue of the camera is that sometime you get white shadows on pictures because of flash to close to the lens but with some good settings you can avoid that.
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So you forced camra problems..Do you think it is common problem?How many images do you take and this problem appeared?
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It's not a common problem and yes, we forced the phone to get camera warnings. The camera stop working because of the temperature. For example after 2 or 3 banchmarks you start making pictures and the phone is hot already so still the possibility to get the message camera Warning of the temperature. This not happen all the time and it's not a issue, you will probably never get that message with the normal use so you can make even 50 pictures and nothing happen.
This is what happen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVDygET6KHQ
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Yes, the images have a lot of noise and this is related to Software only. Was already confirmed it will be improved with the new FW. BTW in Automatic the camera do pictures in 8mpx only and sometime this settings are better for low-light, in Manual the camera do pictures in 20mpx and you have to play with settings, the only issue of the camera is that sometime you get white shadows on pictures because of flash to close to the lens but with some good settings you can avoid that.
It's not a common problem and yes, we forced the phone to get camera warnings. The camera stop working because of the temperature. For example after 2 or 3 banchmarks you start making pictures and the phone is hot already so still the possibility to get the message camera Warning of the temperature. This not happen all the time and it's not a issue, you will probably never get that message with the normal use so you can make even 50 pictures and nothing happen.
This is what happen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVDygET6KHQ
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Thank you..
So I only have to be aware of touch problem right?
and what about different lcd panels?I have heared there are 3 different lcd on this phone?is it true?
and is there different models for z1?
am2222 said:
So I only have to be aware of touch problem right?
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At the moment yes, it's the biggest issue.
am2222 said:
and what about different lcd panels?I have heared there are 3 different lcd on this phone?is it true?
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Yes, here the only way to understand is read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462767
but someone said with the white balance option it can be improved the lcd looks. I did not have it so maybe you will not too.
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and is there different models for z1?
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Yes, C6902, C6903, C6906 and more, there are close the same but few of them have just a different band support like in the case of C6906 which is canadian model and support 700mhz LTE. If you are in Europe C6903 it's the right one with 4g and LTE, C6902 it's 3g only.
look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477440
and hit thanks many times.
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At the moment yes, it's the biggest issue.
Yes, here the only way to understand is read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462767
but someone said with the white balance option it can be improved the lcd looks. I did not have it so maybe you will not too.
Yes, C6902, C6903, C6906 and more, there are close the same but few of them have just a different band support like in the case of C6906 which is canadian model and support 700mhz LTE. If you are in Europe C6903 it's the right one with 4g and LTE, C6902 it's 3g only.
look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477440
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Thank you..I must read topics and If i had another questions I will ask..
for now..How can I find phone is which model?C6902,C6903,C6906 arsth else?
am2222 said:
How can I find phone is which model?C6902,C6903,C6906 arsth else?
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Everywhere you buy this phone there is a specification of which model it is, on the box or on the phone settings. If you buy via internet should be on the advertisement, if there is not ask for it.