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Does anyone use the Palm Threaded SMS on their Kaiser?

I am using the shogunmark one for WM6, and it seems to be working okay. I have an issue though that I am wondering if it traces to this application.
Sometimes in the morning, I notice that Outlook seems to hang with the "please wait" circle/hourglass thing and it requires a soft reset to fix. Simply closing all applications does not fix it.
I don't know if this is a corrupt issue with Outlook, ActiveSync, or if separating SMS from Outlook causes the problem.

I use the app without any issues. Send lots of SMS but I don't send MMS at all.

I have had no problems so far but i've only used it for a few days. Pocket Outlook works as normal as far as i know. I don't really send mms so losing that ability is ok by me.
Sending SMS from Outlook is very annoying for me not only because it's not threaded but also when i type the contact's name in the receiver field it only shows whatever number is filed under "Mobile Number" but most if not all of the people i text to have more than 2 mobile phone numbers and i cant change the number (or at least i dont know how to change it from there). The Palm application lets you choose whatever number you have under that contact's name.

there is a fix for the mms i forgot which thread its in,

Okay, thanks for the input.
I think my problem must tie into ActiveSync then or the fact that I use an Exchange Server.
Any other reason for that circle/please wait to constantly be showing?

trjons said:
Okay, thanks for the input.
I think my problem must tie into ActiveSync then or the fact that I use an Exchange Server.
Any other reason for that circle/please wait to constantly be showing?
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Are you using push Hotmail with Windows Live?
I've found that if it was enabled and you were in an area with no/bad coverage or in flight mode, it would cause that multicolor circle to appear every few seconds and the device would slow to a crawl.

would anyone be able to direct me to where i could find the Palm SMS cab?

imdbui said:
would anyone be able to direct me to where i could find the Palm SMS cab?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=shogunmark+threaded

Entropy512 said:
Are you using push Hotmail with Windows Live?
I've found that if it was enabled and you were in an area with no/bad coverage or in flight mode, it would cause that multicolor circle to appear every few seconds and the device would slow to a crawl.
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I don't. But it might have something to do with that anyway.

trjons said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=shogunmark+threaded
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thanks trjons. Now I've gotta see if theres a fix for the MMS yet.
Does anyone know if the KaiserHomescreen is able to display the SMS count when using this threaded sms?

i use it to send sms and it works just fine except that for some reason when i try to send mms it tells me i dont have enough memory to complete this operation.please close some open windows and try again even thought i have over 70mb of free program and storage memory on my tilt

Well from what i've read using MMS from the Palm application is not possible at all. The "fix" is for the MMS tab to reappear in Pocket Outlook and to send MMS from there instead. I tried doing it for my v1615 on Vodafone but couldnt get it to work. Maybe others had more luck.

Ive been using the Palm Application since I flashed to the new rom.. I have not noticed this problem.. I will pay more attention and post back if I see it happening!

imdbui said:
thanks trjons. Now I've gotta see if theres a fix for the MMS yet.
Does anyone know if the KaiserHomescreen is able to display the SMS count when using this threaded sms?
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Yes, the HTC Home Today Plug-In does read the SMS count when using the Palm Threaded SMS app.

Palm Sms + Kaiser = Bad?
dashraider said:
i use it to send sms and it works just fine except that for some reason when i try to send mms it tells me i dont have enough memory to complete this operation.please close some open windows and try again even thought i have over 70mb of free program and storage memory on my tilt
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I have the same problem on the ATT original ROM and Duttys Hybrid rom
It randomly gives out of memory error even with no other app running
Or everytime i try to create an mms
ANY FIX?

A couple of really strange issues - Please Help!

Hey all,
so i have two very strange issues...
1. Bluetooth OBEX - I can send FROM the phone to any device (That supports it) but I cannot send anything TO the phone from any device. Typically i will get a generic "Device does not support OBEX" error message
-- I have tried sending paired, and not paired
-- I have verified that filesharing is on, and all of my bluetooth options are enabled
2. SMS's not in order - When I installed my current rom (see my sig) And used PIM restore to put my SMS's back, they are not in the order that the conversation happened. If you look @ each day. the messages appear their's first for the day, then mine... its kinda weird.
-- In some instances I dont even see the messages that were sent to me. When I tried making PIMBackup to restore the messages again it said they were already there. I have received some new SMS"s that I dont want to wipe out if I can avoid it but i've never seen this before and it makes no sense
Another thing.. where do I edit the size of text on context menu's ? (asside from the start menu which was using LargeStartMenu)

RickoT said:
Hey all,
so i have two very strange issues...
1. Bluetooth OBEX - I can send FROM the phone to any device (That supports it) but I cannot send anything TO the phone from any device. Typically i will get a generic "Device does not support OBEX" error message
2. SMS's not in order - When I installed my current rom (see my sig) And used PIM restore to put my SMS's back, they are not in the order that the conversation happened. If you look @ each day. the messages appear their's first for the day, then mine... its kinda weird.
Another thing.. where do I edit the size of text on context menu's ? (asside from the start menu which was using LargeStartMenu)
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Hi there,
1.Not all devices are bluetooth 2.0 compliant and I have the same problem sending from older devices.
2. SMS's order can be set in main screen. Select Received on top right
3.Text size can be changed under Start>Settings>System>Screen
There is a tab for font size at the bottom with a slide bar. I have set mine to 2nd last notch from right.
Hope this helps.
MAC

MACkjam said:
Hi there,
1.Not all devices are bluetooth 2.0 compliant and I have the same problem sending from older devices.
2. SMS's order can be set in main screen. Select Received on top right
3.Text size can be changed under Start>Settings>System>Screen
There is a tab for font size at the bottom with a slide bar. I have set mine to 2nd last notch from right.
Hope this helps.
MAC
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Hey MAC, thanks for the reply
for the bluetooth item, this is from my brand new dell laptop or even another att tilt. Even my friends 8125 that was working on some other roms i have problems with now.
the SMS issue is not on the inbox screen its on the actual message history screen. So if I click on an item in my inbox it brings up the coversation thread. In there it shows all of my friends messages first then the ones I sent in reply so instead of .... them... me .. .them.. me. its them... them.. them.. me .. me.. me ... its kind of weird
I had already checked the text size on the screen page. It was set to normal, but the menu's are still huge (see screenshot)

RickoT said:
Hey MAC, thanks for the reply
for the bluetooth item, this is from my brand new dell laptop or even another att tilt. Even my friends 8125 that was working on some other roms i have problems with now.
the SMS issue is not on the inbox screen its on the actual message history screen. So if I click on an item in my inbox it brings up the coversation thread. In there it shows all of my friends messages first then the ones I sent in reply so instead of .... them... me .. .them.. me. its them... them.. them.. me .. me.. me ... its kind of weird
I had already checked the text size on the screen page. It was set to normal, but the menu's are still huge (see screenshot)
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I see re the bluetooth issue. Nt sure as my laptop sends and receives fine from my TyTN II.
If you are using threaded sms then I can't help as I have normal one.
I see you are also using WK Task which comes with the Kaiser. I have removed that and opted for Quickmenu. It is MUCH better, smaller and gives you cascading menus like in Windows XP/Vista. It is also freeware. (File attached). Just place all the files in the zip archive to a folder anywhere on your device, create shortcut if you want, but I suggest you place a shortcut in the startup folder.

MACkjam said:
I see re the bluetooth issue. Nt sure as my laptop sends and receives fine from my TyTN II.
If you are using threaded sms then I can't help as I have normal one.
I see you are also using WK Task which comes with the Kaiser. I have removed that and opted for Quickmenu. It is MUCH better, smaller and gives you cascading menus like in Windows XP/Vista. It is also freeware. (File attached). Just place all the files in the zip archive to a folder anywhere on your device, create shortcut if you want, but I suggest you place a shortcut in the startup folder.
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Yah I've been working on the BT issue since yesterday with no luck
I am using threaded SMS which is why its annoying me that the messages are not appearing in order...
I use WK task in tandem with QuickMenu... I love quick menu, but I still cant figure out how to fix the font sizes... its every context menu not just the tray apps... even my resco context menu is huge and i have to scroll it to do stuff its kind of irritating
Thanks for the suggestions tho, I hope someone has a solution for me, I really like this rom and dont want to change it

Ok So I just discovered that I am completely retarded and forgot to check the "Accept all incoming beams" option in the beam control panel applet... now, how do I go about fixing my SMS messaging issue and chaning the fonts for the menus? They are HUGE!
Thanks in advance!

RickoT said:
Ok So I just discovered that I am completely retarded and forgot to check the "Accept all incoming beams" option in the beam control panel applet... now, how do I go about fixing my SMS messaging issue and chaning the fonts for the menus? They are HUGE!
Thanks in advance!
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Any suggestions on these other two issues? My threaded messaging not being threaded in the right order is really starting to irritate me I can use SK tools to see that all the messages appear in the database but they dont show in messaging correctly

RickoT said:
Any suggestions on these other two issues? My threaded messaging not being threaded in the right order is really starting to irritate me I can use SK tools to see that all the messages appear in the database but they dont show in messaging correctly
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Yup when I restore my Messages its not in order. I truly believe its because of how PIM restores the Messages. All Received First Then all Sent. So to the Device it IS in order. I've posted this thought in the PIM Backup thread. I don't think they've got it figured out yet. Sorry.

JimmyMcGee said:
Yup when I restore my Messages its not in order. I truly believe its because of how PIM restores the Messages. All Received First Then all Sent. So to the Device it IS in order. I've posted this thought in the PIM Backup thread. I don't think they've got it figured out yet. Sorry.
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Actually I just finished fixing the PIM Backup issue too.. its kind of a known issue with 6.1 If you restore everything but your messaging DB. Clear your messaging DB in the messaging app. Terminate the messaging app process then run PIM restore... run the messaging app and let it rebuild the threads it seems to work.. Also make sure that you set your regional date settings to what your normally set it to BEFORE you run PIM backup... some people believe that this may also be the issue.... so process is...
1. Flash
2. Restore all of your data using PIM backup EXCEPT messages
3. Open messaging and clear your SMS boxes
4. Terminate the messaging application
5. Do your PIM Restore
6. Open mesaging
Worked for me!
1 more issue to go and thats the large menu font size!
here is the thread (and post) I found it on : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1903404&highlight=Create+threads.#post1903404

RickoT said:
Actually I just finished fixing the PIM Backup issue too.. its kind of a known issue with 6.1 If you restore everything but your messaging DB. Clear your messaging DB in the messaging app. Terminate the messaging app process then run PIM restore... run the messaging app and let it rebuild the threads it seems to work.. Also make sure that you set your regional date settings to what your normally set it to BEFORE you run PIM backup... some people believe that this may also be the issue.... so process is...
1. Flash
2. Restore all of your data using PIM backup EXCEPT messages
3. Open messaging and clear your SMS boxes
4. Terminate the messaging application
5. Do your PIM Restore
6. Open mesaging
Worked for me!
1 more issue to go and thats the large menu font size!
here is the thread (and post) I found it on : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1903404&highlight=Create+threads.#post1903404
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Yup that only works 40% of the time for me.

T-mobile Texting problem

OK Im using t-mobile and have problem only sending txt. I have searched and searched and found a whole bunch of solution only to find none of them to work. I changed the mms server settings but when i change the connect via i dont see the option to change to t-mobile. I found you can also change it to The internet but when i do i dont get the option to change my WAP and ic an only pick the send limit 600k instead of 300k. Can some one help me

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OK Im using t-mobile and have problem only sending txt. I have searched and searched and found a whole bunch of solution only to find none of them to work. I changed the mms server settings but when i change the connect via i dont see the option to change to t-mobile. I found you can also change it to The internet but when i do i dont get the option to change my WAP and ic an only pick the send limit 600k instead of 300k. Can some one help me
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u are having problem with sms or mms?
Can u connect to internet via gprs?

sorry yea its the sms. I dont have the internet plan for t-mobile yet. I also tried hard reseting and all the cabs. Im currently using the offical wm 6.1 i d/l from the htc site

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sorry yea its the sms. I dont have the internet plan for t-mobile yet. I also tried hard reseting and all the cabs. Im currently using the offical wm 6.1 i d/l from the htc site
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The sms should work without changing any options, so thats weird. Try to take out your sim card and then put it back.

Yea i tried that, I can get txt perfectly fine i just cant send them out

kryptik06 said:
Yea i tried that, I can get txt perfectly fine i just cant send them out
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ou, thats even more weird. I realy dont know whats the problem.
Edit: Did u try yor sim in other phone and try send sms? Did u try another sim in tilt? What error message appear when u are trying to send the sms?

yea it is really annoying i tried Almost EVERYTHING

Well i found the fix finnaly.... Download/install Advanced Config, enable the 3g button for your wirless manager by going to advance config>menu>comm manager settings, then checking the 3g box. After that go to Start>Settings>Connections>Wirless Manager, and disable the 3g

Looking for a pocket outlook plugin.

I'm fed up with the way pocket outlook allows me to search for files to add them as email attachments. What it does is it searches all the folders for files which takes sooooooo long. So in perfect life I would like to manually pick a folder and then select a file as an attachment. Does something like this exist?
I know that there are other email clients out there but I would like to have this feature in outlook as it's better integrated with the OS.

It's called, open file explorer, find the file to send, hold down on the file, go to send, and then pick your method.

ChumleyEX said:
It's called, open file explorer, find the file to send, hold down on the file, go to send, and then pick your method.
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Yeah I knew that but sometimes while writing an email I realize that I forgot to attach a file and then....I will have to either attach a file through outlook or copy my message to clipboard, go to explorer attach a file to a new email and then paste the text of my message.....too much hustle. So I'm still looking for some convenient solution.

Good luck with that. .
I don't see how people can be so picky about this sort of thing. One guy got mad because he had to click too many times to send an SMS message out.

ChumleyEX said:
Good luck with that. .
I don't see how people can be so picky about this sort of thing. One guy got mad because he had to click too many times to send an SMS message out.
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Come on think about this....wasn't it be easier to just allow the user to access the explorer directly from the new email screen and allow one to pick the SPECIFIC folder. And now when you want to attach a file directly from the email screen you have to wait until WM searches all your folders which takes just too damn long.
So i just don't follow you......picky??? I'm just proposing an improvement. I've got a feeling that you consider WM 6.1 to be perfect as it is...

Can't open SMS in Threaded SMS

Hi all..
I've tried searching to no avail.
Only today I can't seem to open any SMS in Threaded SMS mode. Whenever I tried to use Reply or Open any sms, nothing happens.
After disabling Threaded SMS, I'm able to open any SMS.
Any1 encounter such problems before?
I'm using PDA Corner V19 (I think) Win 6.1.
Had no problems for so many mths using the ROM.
Thanks in advance.

just an update of what I did before the problems started:
think problem started when I edited threaded_sms.htm to delete the word count as per what I'd read from http://www.fuzemobility.com/page/4/
here's part of the post...
So you can do this tweak in one of two ways. You can overwrite the file thread_sms.htm with bradyonly’s file (or if you’re using 6.5 then use hibby50’s) or you can just do it yourself. The DIY method is pretty simple. Just open up thread_sms.htm (you can copy this file to your desktop and open it in notepad or if you’re using Total Commander locate the file and then press the pen/paper icon at the bottom and it will open in notepad on your phone). Then locate the line that begins “<Inbox: content id=”COMPSESUBJECT” width=”98%”… and delete the single word “count” from that line then hit ‘save’ (or if you used your PC then overwrite the file) and soft reset your phone. And you’re done.
I did make a copy of the original threaded_sms.htm file. Once my threaded sms had problems, I had copied back the original file.
But it still didn't work...

i have problem with my message is can't open new message anh reply
So. how do it fixing?

I had the same problem few days ago.. I received two sms and after them I had immediatelly received an mms, so all of the previous sms were gone and the mms was looking as the first message in the conversation. But there were still two unread messages.. I wasn´t able to get to them until I turned off threaded sms via registry.. I didn´t know what to do, so I had to do HR

I am having the same issue on a Niki 100, anyone with any idea of the solution?
I hadn't editied anything, just flashed the ROM and I can only use SMS in non-threaded mode.
DT

I miss having threaded sms haha
cos it's a good way to keep track of my sms chat conversations wif my contacts

oriki said:
I miss having threaded sms haha
cos it's a good way to keep track of my sms chat conversations wif my contacts
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If you miss it that much hard-reset is the solution.