when most people call it only displays the number, rarely anyone has the caller ID. i think theres only like 2 people in my contact list that it has their name.
so most people call and it just shows a number, i dont always know who it is.
ive already done the following:
added my country area code and city area code to each contact.
flashed multiple roms (AT&T, HTC, Duty's)
switched from using 3G to Edge and GPRS.
has anyone else experianced this?
I'm guessing they are on the sim? Had the same exact problem and it got really annoying. I had to go and edit every single contact that didn't have the are code. That's what you have to do. It's weird because on the 8525, you don't need that.
kareem9nba said:
I'm guessing they are on the sim? Had the same exact problem and it got really annoying. I had to go and edit every single contact that didn't have the are code. That's what you have to do. It's weird because on the 8525, you don't need that.
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so you had to give all your contacts area codes? did seem to make a difference for me. if i gave someone an area code it still didnt show when they called.
Exactly. Had to do it for all that didn't have an area code.
mikeeey said:
when most people call it only displays the number, rarely anyone has the caller ID. i think theres only like 2 people in my contact list that it has their name.
so most people call and it just shows a number, i dont always know who it is.
ive already done the following:
added my country area code and city area code to each contact.
flashed multiple roms (AT&T, HTC, Duty's)
switched from using 3G to Edge and GPRS.
has anyone else experianced this?
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Yeah I notice this a lot living and working overseas.
Some cell networks send the caller ID as a full international number and some send it a local number (as they do here).
Best way I found of is to edit the numbers in Outlook contacts on the PC as it will prompt you for the correct country and area codes into the standard (MS-US) format ie +971 (xxx) xxxxxxxx and the phone then seems to start recognising them.
I have been looking for this since I first started using Windows Mobile.
Unfortunately, most of the softwares out there (because they are not built into the ROM) can not reject calls without the other side knowing. I have tried every software out there, all of them are the same, the caller will hear a ring, or part of a ring, then they will get a busy signal (rejected).
I can't believe this is hard to create, I use to have it 12 years ago in my BASIC alcatel phone. When a black listed caller dials, they get nothing .. or get an out of coverage message from the operator. I believe the way it worked, is that the phone detects the caller number, BEFORE responding that it has acknowledged the call and is ringing.
I guess that is why I am saying that it is built in to the ROM as a driver or something, and not just a software.
Any Ideas, thoughts, where I can find this, anyone WILLING to make it ?
I know there are some recent roms being created that has the call blocking feature built in. i'm using one those roms, which is indicated in my signature. when u mentioned that you've tried them (call blocking applications) all, were they free and/or commercial apps, or apps created in the development/hacking section? Collectively speaking, there's alot of those types of applications floating out there, but maybe you've already tried those.
pheroah said:
I have been looking for this since I first started using Windows Mobile.
Unfortunately, most of the softwares out there (because they are not built into the ROM) can not reject calls without the other side knowing. I have tried every software out there, all of them are the same, the caller will hear a ring, or part of a ring, then they will get a busy signal (rejected).
I can't believe this is hard to create, I use to have it 12 years ago in my BASIC alcatel phone. When a black listed caller dials, they get nothing .. or get an out of coverage message from the operator. I believe the way it worked, is that the phone detects the caller number, BEFORE responding that it has acknowledged the call and is ringing.
I guess that is why I am saying that it is built in to the ROM as a driver or something, and not just a software.
Any Ideas, thoughts, where I can find this, anyone WILLING to make it ?
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1st off, change your number
if that doesn't suite your needs make a fake dial tone which states your number is not in service as your voicemail while using call firewall. after a few weeks the person will give up calling you. Callers will receive one full ring and it will go to your new fake voicemail after blocking them, which they will perceive as your phone being turned off or changed your number.
common sense now pay me.
hahahah nice one .. except the keyword here is UNDETECTABLE ... if they know i changed my number or i am blocking them, they will find me and ask for the NEW number ....
As I said before, the only device I saw that feature on, was the really old alcatel models; which didn't give you a ring, didn't give you a busy tone, probably just ignored the request coming in from the telco when it is one of the black listed numbers.
Nice try, but I would pay you, if you could do the same on windows mobile. By the way I was testing an alpha versio of the cruise before it was launched, and it actually (accidently) opened the speaker, before you actually picked up the phone call, so the other side could hear you, before you even answer.
Thus, I am sure these things are possible, if there is someone who has the knowledge, and power to play with the operator
I haven't tried anything comercial, didn't find what i was looking for. If you know of any comercial software or freeware that does what i am stating. i.e. doesn't ring before it blocks the call. That would be great
I have something called MAGICALL, and it works great. You can set it to pick up then hang up, however the best part is that the call doesnt "come through" or let the phone ring. Unless you specify the software to give you a pop up message indicating it blocked a call. I love it since it doesnt even let the phone ring, its like if you never got called.
Same thing, I already tried MagiCall and it rings once to the caller, and then disconnects. Very obvious that you are avoiding the person.
I currently use a free voicemail feature called YouMail, which has call filtering and call blocking features. You can block calls (I believe) and also create a unique voicemail greetings for those you want/trying to avoid as well. www.youmail.com
I also use magicall for this. As an action I choose 'ignore' and then the caller just hears the phoen ringing, the connection is not broken. And you, well you hear and see nothing so you are not disturbed. Is that not what you want/?
Not exactly, ignore is a nice feature if you dont' want to be disturbed, but if someone is constantly bugging you; you would like them not to even reach your phone (so they don't come next day in the office, and say I left you three missed calls, and you didn't answer me).
It would be easier if they just got a this phone is out of coverage (or something similar) from the operator; then you can always blame the operator, that they couldn't reach you ... you get my drift ?
Yeah, I get your drift. But, if you're not reachable, then I guess it's the provider that sends back a message to the caller. I don't think your phone can send that message to the caller.
Moreover in most cases if you're not reachable then the caller also gets sent to your voicemail and he can also leave a message and come to you next day asking why you didn't react to his voice messages.
So the only option would be to send a message back saying that the number doesn't exist. But again, you would have to be able to spoof a provider based message for that.
I see these options when a caller really wants to get hold of you and you don't want to react:
* drop the call after 1 ring: caller notices he gets dropped, gets pissed an comes to see you
* send message back saying you're out of coverage: caller leaves message, which you ignore, caller gets pissed and comes to see you
* send a message back saying that the number doesn't exist: caller inquires whether you changed number, finds out you didn't, gets pissed and comes to see you
* silently ignore him: caller leaves a message, which you ignore, caller gets pissed and comes to see you.
Seems you're screwed either way
Why not simply answer the call and tell the caller to f*ck off. He's bound to get pissed also but at least he'll leave you alone and you'll feel relieved.
Well for one, I don't use voice mail ... secondly, because it is the provider that sends the message, it is authentic....
So if your mobile ... somehow ... ignores the call coming from the provider ... the provider sends a message saying that the mobile is out of coverage ...
pheroah said:
hahahah nice one .. except the keyword here is UNDETECTABLE ... if they know i changed my number or i am blocking them, they will find me and ask for the NEW number ....
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Hmm, you're asking for someone to develop a piece of software because you have no spine? I know of no Java/.Net/etc API that is better than the truth. Tell the person to leave you be. The currently available call firewalls work great for when you need to be in a "Call Free Environment."
It has nothing to do with my spine; and I currently have NO ONE harasing me; but I believe that the current Call firewalls have a disadvantage, and lack a feature.
I wish there was someone in XDA-Developers who is willing to spend some time to make some adjustments to one of the ROMs to have this built in. Especially as this feature is available in historic phones that have a lot less features than a WM.
Im also using Magicall for this & its working great, the other party doen't even hear a ring. It has many other features too.
Hello,
can anyone shine some light??? I have the at&t TILT phone I want to block
ALL INCOMING CALLS, (call barring) to do so I would need a passcode that AT&T SAID THEY DONT HAVE!!!! Does anyone know the default code? has anyone used it before?
thanks
i am not pretty sure, but should be something like "1234" or "0000". except cases dat somebody [like i did] changed it! but i'm sure the operators can reset it to the default value, so make 1 more call
i also saw this option in some softwares, unfortunately i can't name 1 of'em rite now!
This isn't perfect, but it works okay:
http://www.logic-unlimited.com/callfirewall.php
If you can find any info on this let me know as I've been searching for this password for a long time with no results. AT&T says they don't have the barring password and to call HTC. HTC says its network dependent and the phone gets the feature list from the switch.
Good luck!
the pin is network dependent.
as long as you haven't changed it, for AT&T it is "1111".
Let us know how you get on.
The evil side of me says to just set forwarding to the AT&T customer service line...
Doesn't the second half of this
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-..._dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=62179&isSrch=Yes
suggest you can enable call barring for incoming calls and leave outgoing normal? I didn't enable it, but I went through step 6 and got settings from the network. It gave incoming block options of All Calls, When Roaming, and Off.
1111 doesn't work on my Tilt on AT&T.
daystrom said:
1111 doesn't work on my Tilt on AT&T.
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the default values are ALWAYS '0000'...just ask the call center of ur operator to confirm it with the Switch (also called NSS or MSS) department, may be the engineers have changed the default password in the HLR. call center guys dont know half of the things buddy
This is one thing I liked in my old Sprint phone. When I get an incoming call (or make an outgoing call), the phone would show the state, and sometimes the city, of the area code. Like it would say 'Texas' for 214. This occurs regardless of whether the number is stored in the phonebook or not.
My question is, is there an app, or can a feature like this be implemented? Any assistance on implementation will be appreciated.
I believe that I have seen an application like this on the Market, but I couldn't tell you the name right now since my Nexus is getting it's power button replaced.
I'll comment back if I can find it again once I get my phone back...
I have a question regarding Caller ID.
Over the years with CallerID feature I always thought that caller's name & phone number would display even if it is not in my contact list. It would only show the phone number of the caller. That is how it has been ever since I had cellphone.
Previously I had HTC Magic and even that phone would only display the phone number only for callers that was not in my list.
Now not too long ago I purchased a Bell's Samsung Galaxy S i9000 which was rooted and already had JPK running. I currently have it running on Rogers Wireless Network. Sure enough even with this phone only callers' number would display.
Few days ago I actually flashed back to the stock firmware for this phone, which is JH2 firmware. I was suprised to see that phone would now display the name of the caller! +obviously the number, even if it was not listed on my contacts! (I actually received a call from wrong number). What is more shocking? was that I used my Skype(PC) to do a test call and as usually it would display with funny phone numbers like 01234567, etc... BUT! it literally displayed my Skype(PC)'s user name !!
So my question is, what is required to display the unknown callers name? and not just the number as usual?
I am sure it is not hardware based but up to the phone's operating system?
Could someone explain this to me?
Thank you.
Firmware aside
one thing i do know, is that there are 2 Caller ID services now in day in all Canadian/USA telcos (not sure about internationals)
the standard old caller ID if paid or included in your plan, you will always get the phone number of the person calling you, unless the dialing person brocked it.
the NEW caller ID which is usually an extra fee to enable or included in your plan, will show your the caller ID name (even if it's not in your address book) if it's not broked
so from your experiment, it appears that some firmwares are missing the support for the NEW caller ID feature