Caller ID Question: - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a question regarding Caller ID.
Over the years with CallerID feature I always thought that caller's name & phone number would display even if it is not in my contact list. It would only show the phone number of the caller. That is how it has been ever since I had cellphone.
Previously I had HTC Magic and even that phone would only display the phone number only for callers that was not in my list.
Now not too long ago I purchased a Bell's Samsung Galaxy S i9000 which was rooted and already had JPK running. I currently have it running on Rogers Wireless Network. Sure enough even with this phone only callers' number would display.
Few days ago I actually flashed back to the stock firmware for this phone, which is JH2 firmware. I was suprised to see that phone would now display the name of the caller! +obviously the number, even if it was not listed on my contacts! (I actually received a call from wrong number). What is more shocking? was that I used my Skype(PC) to do a test call and as usually it would display with funny phone numbers like 01234567, etc... BUT! it literally displayed my Skype(PC)'s user name !!
So my question is, what is required to display the unknown callers name? and not just the number as usual?
I am sure it is not hardware based but up to the phone's operating system?
Could someone explain this to me?
Thank you.

Firmware aside
one thing i do know, is that there are 2 Caller ID services now in day in all Canadian/USA telcos (not sure about internationals)
the standard old caller ID if paid or included in your plan, you will always get the phone number of the person calling you, unless the dialing person brocked it.
the NEW caller ID which is usually an extra fee to enable or included in your plan, will show your the caller ID name (even if it's not in your address book) if it's not broked
so from your experiment, it appears that some firmwares are missing the support for the NEW caller ID feature

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Caller ID problem

Hello, i just want to ask did your caller ID software working smoothly? Mine sometimes run greaat but sometime didn't recognize caller even i have safe it and edit the pict, ringtones etc...
How about better software, anyone know?
For some reason, my Alpine doesn't show the caller's name correctly unless I do this:
As my phone is on O2, anybody in my address book who is also on O2, I have their number in as "07xxx xxxxxx" (where the Xs are their number, all mobile numbers in the UK begin 07). However, anybody who isn't on O2, I HAVE to have their number in the international +7xxx xxxxxx format, otherwise their name doesn't show up when they ring me.
I don't know why this happens, and I've not been able to figure out a workaround, and this has happened ever since I got my first XDA (I've had two), and I've done a couple of hard resets and fresh reinstalls and this still happens.
So yeah, that's what I had to do to get my caller ID working properly.
I am also on O2 and have all my numbers in international format but occasionally the device is just slow looking the number up.
It will display the number for a few rings then show the name. Of course I don't know if it always finds the name because sometimes by then I've answered the call.
Yeah, I have that problem too - the number only comes up after a few seconds if I don't have them in the right format for the person calling (depending on what network they're on) - by which time they've usually hung up or it's gone to voicemail, so meh.
Hm it's strange, for me i didn't wotk to set international format, it just show the number. And there is a funny thing, i run my caller ID and just look around, then i did soft reset. after that it will show the name and they personal photo etc. but after i soft reset again it didn't work again? :?
Any one know the other program wich do same function but does they job better?
Thank for all.
Ermm.. maybe u could try to download O2 plus...

[Request] Undetecatable Call Blocking

I have been looking for this since I first started using Windows Mobile.
Unfortunately, most of the softwares out there (because they are not built into the ROM) can not reject calls without the other side knowing. I have tried every software out there, all of them are the same, the caller will hear a ring, or part of a ring, then they will get a busy signal (rejected).
I can't believe this is hard to create, I use to have it 12 years ago in my BASIC alcatel phone. When a black listed caller dials, they get nothing .. or get an out of coverage message from the operator. I believe the way it worked, is that the phone detects the caller number, BEFORE responding that it has acknowledged the call and is ringing.
I guess that is why I am saying that it is built in to the ROM as a driver or something, and not just a software.
Any Ideas, thoughts, where I can find this, anyone WILLING to make it ?
I know there are some recent roms being created that has the call blocking feature built in. i'm using one those roms, which is indicated in my signature. when u mentioned that you've tried them (call blocking applications) all, were they free and/or commercial apps, or apps created in the development/hacking section? Collectively speaking, there's alot of those types of applications floating out there, but maybe you've already tried those.
pheroah said:
I have been looking for this since I first started using Windows Mobile.
Unfortunately, most of the softwares out there (because they are not built into the ROM) can not reject calls without the other side knowing. I have tried every software out there, all of them are the same, the caller will hear a ring, or part of a ring, then they will get a busy signal (rejected).
I can't believe this is hard to create, I use to have it 12 years ago in my BASIC alcatel phone. When a black listed caller dials, they get nothing .. or get an out of coverage message from the operator. I believe the way it worked, is that the phone detects the caller number, BEFORE responding that it has acknowledged the call and is ringing.
I guess that is why I am saying that it is built in to the ROM as a driver or something, and not just a software.
Any Ideas, thoughts, where I can find this, anyone WILLING to make it ?
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1st off, change your number
if that doesn't suite your needs make a fake dial tone which states your number is not in service as your voicemail while using call firewall. after a few weeks the person will give up calling you. Callers will receive one full ring and it will go to your new fake voicemail after blocking them, which they will perceive as your phone being turned off or changed your number.
common sense now pay me.
hahahah nice one .. except the keyword here is UNDETECTABLE ... if they know i changed my number or i am blocking them, they will find me and ask for the NEW number ....
As I said before, the only device I saw that feature on, was the really old alcatel models; which didn't give you a ring, didn't give you a busy tone, probably just ignored the request coming in from the telco when it is one of the black listed numbers.
Nice try, but I would pay you, if you could do the same on windows mobile. By the way I was testing an alpha versio of the cruise before it was launched, and it actually (accidently) opened the speaker, before you actually picked up the phone call, so the other side could hear you, before you even answer.
Thus, I am sure these things are possible, if there is someone who has the knowledge, and power to play with the operator
I haven't tried anything comercial, didn't find what i was looking for. If you know of any comercial software or freeware that does what i am stating. i.e. doesn't ring before it blocks the call. That would be great
I have something called MAGICALL, and it works great. You can set it to pick up then hang up, however the best part is that the call doesnt "come through" or let the phone ring. Unless you specify the software to give you a pop up message indicating it blocked a call. I love it since it doesnt even let the phone ring, its like if you never got called.
Same thing, I already tried MagiCall and it rings once to the caller, and then disconnects. Very obvious that you are avoiding the person.
I currently use a free voicemail feature called YouMail, which has call filtering and call blocking features. You can block calls (I believe) and also create a unique voicemail greetings for those you want/trying to avoid as well. www.youmail.com
I also use magicall for this. As an action I choose 'ignore' and then the caller just hears the phoen ringing, the connection is not broken. And you, well you hear and see nothing so you are not disturbed. Is that not what you want/?
Not exactly, ignore is a nice feature if you dont' want to be disturbed, but if someone is constantly bugging you; you would like them not to even reach your phone (so they don't come next day in the office, and say I left you three missed calls, and you didn't answer me).
It would be easier if they just got a this phone is out of coverage (or something similar) from the operator; then you can always blame the operator, that they couldn't reach you ... you get my drift ?
Yeah, I get your drift. But, if you're not reachable, then I guess it's the provider that sends back a message to the caller. I don't think your phone can send that message to the caller.
Moreover in most cases if you're not reachable then the caller also gets sent to your voicemail and he can also leave a message and come to you next day asking why you didn't react to his voice messages.
So the only option would be to send a message back saying that the number doesn't exist. But again, you would have to be able to spoof a provider based message for that.
I see these options when a caller really wants to get hold of you and you don't want to react:
* drop the call after 1 ring: caller notices he gets dropped, gets pissed an comes to see you
* send message back saying you're out of coverage: caller leaves message, which you ignore, caller gets pissed and comes to see you
* send a message back saying that the number doesn't exist: caller inquires whether you changed number, finds out you didn't, gets pissed and comes to see you
* silently ignore him: caller leaves a message, which you ignore, caller gets pissed and comes to see you.
Seems you're screwed either way
Why not simply answer the call and tell the caller to f*ck off. He's bound to get pissed also but at least he'll leave you alone and you'll feel relieved.
Well for one, I don't use voice mail ... secondly, because it is the provider that sends the message, it is authentic....
So if your mobile ... somehow ... ignores the call coming from the provider ... the provider sends a message saying that the mobile is out of coverage ...
pheroah said:
hahahah nice one .. except the keyword here is UNDETECTABLE ... if they know i changed my number or i am blocking them, they will find me and ask for the NEW number ....
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Hmm, you're asking for someone to develop a piece of software because you have no spine? I know of no Java/.Net/etc API that is better than the truth. Tell the person to leave you be. The currently available call firewalls work great for when you need to be in a "Call Free Environment."
It has nothing to do with my spine; and I currently have NO ONE harasing me; but I believe that the current Call firewalls have a disadvantage, and lack a feature.
I wish there was someone in XDA-Developers who is willing to spend some time to make some adjustments to one of the ROMs to have this built in. Especially as this feature is available in historic phones that have a lot less features than a WM.
Im also using Magicall for this & its working great, the other party doen't even hear a ring. It has many other features too.

[Q] Incoming (old-school) Caller ID Name on community ROM?

Hi folks,
I was using Cyanogenmod on my previous phone, a Samsung Galaxy S Relay (QWERTY slider). With CM, along with paying T-Mo $3 a month for the Incoming Caller ID Name service, I was able to see the names of people calling from unfamiliar numbers. As in, the old-school Caller ID like we've had on landlines for decades.
I've had my T-Mo Nexus 6 for a few days outside the return period. I'm still on the stock OS. I just figured out that when unfamiliar numbers call, I don't see the incoming Caller ID Name. I checked with T-Mo Tier 2 tech support. They say that according to Motorola's website, the Nexus line doesn't support incoming Caller ID Name. Period.
I wanted to ask if anyone is using a community Rom on a Nexus phone (hopefully a Nexus 6), and is successfully seeing incoming Caller ID Name, along with subscribing to that service from their carrier? Preferably OmniROM or Cyanogenmod.
This phone has "Google Caller ID", which I find to be pretty much useless. If a business is listed on Google Places, the phone displays their name when they're calling. Or if an individual with a Google account who has confirmed their phone with that account calls, it shows their name. I'm most interested in seeing the name of unfamiliar individuals who are calling, as I run my own service business and post my phone number online. Granted, a lot of times it will just say "Verizon wireless caller" or "wireless caller" whatever, but that's still helpful when I'm trying to distinguish new/unfamiliar numbers.
I'm trying to escalate to a manager with T-Mobile retentions to get them to take the phone back. I've been with them for 8 years. The rep at the store who sold me the phone, said that incoming Caller ID Name would work on this phone. He transferred the service over from my old phone, since I am grandfathered into that service for $3 a month. The first level T-Mo retentions rep I spoke with tonight offered three useless suggestions. She suggested installing a 3rd party app, but those just do the same thing that Google Caller ID does, they look up the incoming number online. True incoming Caller ID Name has to be integrated into the dialer. She also suggested trying to sell the phone, but of course I can't do that since I'm on a payment plan for it, so it's not unlocked. And she suggested I could trade it in and get something else - for a whopping $311 for a 3-week old 64gb phone that I bought for $700. So I'd still owe them $389 on it at $29 a month, plus the cost of the new phone. No thanks, frackers!
If I can get incoming Caller ID Name working with a community Rom, I may just pay off the phone and switch to Project Fi.
Thanks!

Caller ID - Location

The other day I received a couple of calls from numbers I'm not familar with. When the calls came in, only the number was shown on the incoming call screen. Later I noticed in my call log that those numbers show a state in the log. Although it's only a state it is better than nothing. Why does it not show this info when the call is incoming? Is there a way to change this? I did not find any caller ID settings.
shouren04 said:
The other day I received a couple of calls from numbers I'm not familar with.
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I am using a 920I on AT&T on firmware for XSP. When I get a call from a number I do not have stored it shows what state the call is coming from. I do not know of a setting to change this.

Very Bizarre Caller ID problem

I am having a very frustrating problem with my Note 8. If someone calls me from a phone with a blocked number but dials *82 (to unblock their number) it still shows the incoming number being "Restricted".
I don't have this issues with any other Sprint phone on my account. From the same landline dialing *82 reveals the number in Caller ID on the other phones.
Does anyone have any idea what the heck is going on and how to get this to work right?
Just got this problem solved with Sprint tech support. Posting the solution for the benefit of anyone who has the problem in the future and comes across this thread.
I guess I had a trial of the Premium Caller ID running and that can make manually unblocked numbers still appear to be blocked. Sprint turned it off and now I can see the caller ID when the caller uses *82 to unblock their number.

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