Is there anyway to, as they say 'overclock' the wizard. It's a great PPC/phone, but runs quite slow. Thanks. [/b]
try the search button. use querry "omap"
The utility in this thread is what you need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55782
It works on the Wizard, Charmer and Prophet. After installing you should find that you can run your device at 260Mhz rather than the factory set 195. 8)
Was able to download the battery-plug-in software. didn't damage anything on my wizard, but am not realy sure if it increased the speed or not. stil seems mighty slow.
You'll find this by searching too, scattered about. Programs like SPB Diary, SPB Pocket Plus make the Wizard sluggish even when you've overclocked. I learned the hard way to be very choosy about programs that run automatically. Today agenda, SPB weather, PHM Traylaunch and Batterystatus are the only things on my today screen. Smartskey insures that practically nothing is running in the background. I have the latest rom, and I used Xelencin's version (now my own version) so that I have much more space on the device. The effect of all this is that my device is very snappy, except when it decides it needs to talk with the network at length and a good 15 seconds can go by while it does something with the network. Then it just doesn't do anything for 15 seconds, which seems like an eternity when you are about to show someone something, need to check an address or phone number, etc. But 90% of my complaints went away when I eliminated automatic programs, many of which I'd spent money on. It isn't that these programs don't offer functionality, they do, but most of that functionality is also offered by programs that have a smaller footprint.
You'll find this by searching too, scattered about. Programs like SPB Diary, SPB Pocket Plus make the Wizard sluggish even when you've overclocked. I learned the hard way to be very choosy about programs that run automatically. Today agenda, SPB weather, PHM Traylaunch and Batterystatus are the only things on my today screen. Smartskey insures that practically nothing is running in the background. I have the latest rom, and I used Xelencin's version (now my own version) so that I have much more space on the device. The effect of all this is that my device is very snappy, except when it decides it needs to talk with the network at length and a good 15 seconds can go by while it does something with the network. Then it just doesn't do anything for 15 seconds, which seems like an eternity when you are about to show someone something, need to check an address or phone number, etc. But 90% of my complaints went away when I eliminated automatic programs, many of which I'd spent money on. It isn't that these programs don't offer functionality, they do, but most of that functionality is also offered by programs that have a smaller footprint.
I like SPB Diary and Pocket Plus though. Between the larger cache trick and OCing it with battery status, the speed is fine for me. It was a mite too slow without the OC.
After using it for a little less than half a day, I do feel that there is some improvement in terms of speed. However, it still pales in comparison with the xda mini which I used to use. Is this the maximum speed that the wizard can process?
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Do you have omap running? I run mine at 247MHz but some people are running as high as 260 and report stability.
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Do you have omap running? I run mine at 247MHz but some people are running as high as 260 and report stability.
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Yes - 260Mhz is just fine. 8)
I use omapclock and clock to 264 MHz with it, rock solid at that speed, but higher speeds are no go. The battery plugin shows 286 MHz when omapclock says 264 though
Yeah, have mine running at 260mhz, but don't see much improvement still. Am i doing something wrong? I copied the cab file into the main memory (but not directly into the windows folder), then executed it.
Yeah, have mine running at 260mhz, but don't see much improvement still. Am i doing something wrong? I copied the cab file into the main memory (but not directly into the windows folder), then executed it.
How do you know it is at 260?
If you use batterystatus, you can toggle back and forth from 260 to 195. That way you know if it is running and how fast. It doesn't need to be in Windows; mine is in My Documents/Programs. But it needs to be turned on; it is off by default even if installed, which is why I asked.
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most of the time when i go to play songs it gives me the critically low memory and will only let me close the audio manager program. I've got a 6mb page pool. I'm using the tmob wing base RUU which probably eats up a ton of RAM though. So are there any suggestions on how to go about fixing this or freeing up more memory?
I'd like to make an ultra lite release for the wing. But I don't have much time to learn how to cook right now...
Audio manager took up significantly less memory than WMP for me. Do you have the audio manager installed to your device or memory card (I can't remember if it gives you the option)?
Also, how many mp3s (I assume) are you trying to play? Check to see how much memory you have left after you open audio manager. Make sure you have other programs closed as well--meaning they don't show up in the task manager; not just pressing the OK button to minimize the program.
It's installed directly to the device. Also, It happens when I open an album usually, which is like 13 songs. It scans the files by there tags so it's hard to get around it.
Everything in the task manager is closed as well. I believe it's just the low amount of memory available on the Tmob default RUU (even with 6mb page pool). I'm waiting for a lighter weight firmware to come along.
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It's installed directly to the device. Also, It happens when I open an album usually, which is like 13 songs. It scans the files by there tags so it's hard to get around it.
Everything in the task manager is closed as well. I believe it's just the low amount of memory available on the Tmob default RUU (even with 6mb page pool). I'm waiting for a lighter weight firmware to come along.
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Why not just do the quick pagepool fix. Then you don't have to worry about reinstalling a rom or anything, it's all automated and just adjusts your pagepool size. Takes like 2 seconds, plus reboot.
yeah thats what ive been using. im about to try "TMO Wing Original ROM with TouchFlo added" wish me luck.
I have had the same problem.
I am using the stock tmo wing rom.
are the newer roms worth it. I know they where when I had the mda, but feel like treating the Wing as a much more sacred devise
yeah man the roms people are releasing are way better. i think they all pretty much have htc home built in by default (including audio manager) and they don't give me any memory problems.
i recommend trying out touch~itv2.0, just make sure you have the t-mobile RUU downloaded in case of brick(it happened to me alot until i standardized my rom flashing procedure, and even then it still happens sometimes)
the only thing is that if you wish to try touch~it v2.0 windows media player is set as the default for htc home so to change it to audio manager follow these directions:
1.open up either total commander or phm regedit (they both are included in touchit2)
2. navigate to HKLM/Software/HTC/Music Plug-in and change the music player value from 1 to 2
3. start the audio manager from the programs folder and then exit it
4. soft reset
worked perfectly for me just keep in mind touchit2 has the wing default page pool size of 12mb so you'll want to use quick page pool changer (the one with all the batch files) and set it to like 4mb or 6mb. and overclock too so you get better performance.
once htc home is integrated with audio manager correctly and you have a memory card it's like having a really nice touch screen mp3 player
let me know if this works alright for you!
Thanks I took the plunge today.
Installed Touch it lite. I bricked the phone 2 times, but am up and running. I like it so far, much better.
I feel like a donkey for waiting so long
yeah i had touch it lite for a day. and then i tried to flash to pdaviet .14, but it just kept bricking my phone. so then i tried flashing to touchit lite again but it just kept bricking my phone so i ended up just using the official RUU for a day or so and then flashing touch~it2, which i think is the best so far. you should try it if you have any stability problems with touch~it lite.
It's day 2 so far. Lite is working just right. But will keep the version 2 in mind should I feel the need. Clocked at 260 and ticking right on
yah i had mine at 260 as well but it kept freezing and crashing and rebooting so i lowered down to 247. everything works fine anyways
If it is, then other than the missing drivers, then the chances are that either a subset of Kaisers, or roms, or third party apps are causing some devices to be a LOT slower than others.
There are people claiming that their devices take three seconds to change orientation. They also claim that you can actually see the icons being "drawn" on the screen.
As a happy Kaiser owner, I have never experienced anything like that (except when syncing over USB - when the device pretty much stops responding for the first few seconds of syncing and then returns to normal.
Changing to landscape on mine take approx 0.3 seconds (I say approx as its too quick to actually time).
Now I made a horrible error. I tried to point out to the defensive people over on the classaction thread that if their device was really that bad, they could try a different rom and see if that makes their device better. I didnt argue that "the" drivers weren;t missing or that their devices would be fine without them. All I did was try to get some research to see if there was an obvious group of devices or roms or apps that was causing the problem.
If like me, you prefer to sort these things out - rather than wait for a year for a class action - then try the benchmarking test in my sig and post your results and rom details. Hopefully, we can find the cause of the major differences in performance.
My device scored 1643 overall.
He's right, people should start blaming the device for everything. Bring back the days when you'd clean up your device when you'd feel it being slow.
Mine is in 1680 or so as well.
Unwired 4,
Can you perhaps provide a detailed list of all the applications you have on your phone?
I ask you this because I don't have alot of apps on my phone; mainly Googlemaps, livesearch, TCPMP, Dutty 1 calc, HTC Album, Opera mini and Palringo.
I don't have any SPB products clogging up my today screen with its numerous shortcuts. I haven't tweaked my clock appearance and I'm using the original windows blue background on my today screen.
My phone looks pretty similar to when it was bought yet I have noticed a lag, even when it comes to changing the screen orientation from portrait to landscape. It takes roughly one second. Sometimes opening an application takes forever, and closing it down to.
I had an issue with video playback, but the member 'Audio' and co offered settings which greatly improved movie playback. So that’s one tiny area fixed
What are you doing on your device which is causing your phone to run so fluidly?
I was happy with my device running the stock Orange Rom. It was quicker than my Hermes running the Black Majik rom. I recently flashed the V3 Dutty Rom and its a little faster - not much though.
I have a 4gb microsd card that I install most apps on. I use the HTC Home screen - with no other plug ins.
See below for screen grabs of installed programs.
Underwired 4,
Thanks for the response. I have an 8GB memory card, and I install all my applications on this card, and not on the device memory. The only thing I've installed on the device memory, that I can recall, is the PIE fix, and the slight fix for the camera. That is all. Everything else goes onto my 8GB storage card, of which I have over 5GB of memory left over. From the looks of it, I have more device storage memory than you do, but slightly less programme memory than you.
My free storage memory reads: 112.76 MB
My free programme memory: 48.54 MB
I’m left scratching my head...
Graphics Test 1 1060
Others Test 2 1730
JPEG Test 3 2246
Games Test 4 1261
Sound Test 5 0669
Final Score: 1393
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My free storage memory reads: 112.76 MB
My free programme memory: 48.54 MB
I’m left scratching my head...
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I have scratched my head about this before too. I tested this last night and if you take the card OUT, you will see a BIG increase in your memory.
My feeling is that maybe if you have shortcuts on the phone TO those apps on the card, at boot time, the phone reads all of those and maybe that is what does it? Or 1 or 2 of those apps on the card load (somehow) on the boot up.
I hope I explained that correctly
Here's my list (doesn't have all I have installed) and it's not slow whatsoever.
My VSbenchmark overall result is 1600-something.. I'm really using it, and Kaiser is coping with it with no problems.. my Wizard would beg for mercy at this point.
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Graphics Test 1 1060
Others Test 2 1730
JPEG Test 3 2246
Games Test 4 1261
Sound Test 5 0669
Final Score: 1393
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Thanks Mirror. Where are you? What device is it (ie tilt, tytn2 vario3) and which rom?
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Underwired 4,
Thanks for the response. I have an 8GB memory card, and I install all my applications on this card, and not on the device memory. The only thing I've installed on the device memory, that I can recall, is the PIE fix, and the slight fix for the camera. That is all. Everything else goes onto my 8GB storage card, of which I have over 5GB of memory left over. From the looks of it, I have more device storage memory than you do, but slightly less programme memory than you.
My free storage memory reads: 112.76 MB
My free programme memory: 48.54 MB
I’m left scratching my head...
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Have you run any tweaking programs to set page pools etc? Such as Kasier Tweak or Shaps advanced config tool?
Mines a bit random.
Sometimes about 1 second, sometimes more. Sometimes it redaws off center and has to draw again. Seems to take longer when sliding the keyboard back in than it does the other way.
Can't say it really annoys me too much... I just wait for it
unwired4 said:
I was happy with my device running the stock Orange Rom. It was quicker than my Hermes running the Black Majik rom. I recently flashed the V3 Dutty Rom and its a little faster - not much though.
I have a 4gb microsd card that I install most apps on. I use the HTC Home screen - with no other plug ins.
See below for screen grabs of installed programs.
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Since you seem to be on a mission, please provide us video of your screen rotation. Actually 2 videos; one with only today screen showing and one with any program open on it. If im on Today, the screen rotates in about a sec, but if I have i.e. Opera Mini open it takes 3 sec at least.
I just said on the classaction.org thread that i had a friends Ipaq 6915 for few days and the difference in speed, i.e. opening programs menu is obvious.
Im still running Duttys WWE lite rom with Spb Pocket Plus + Diary + weather, S2U2, WkTask, TC, Office, Live etc installed. On my today i have only 4 quick launch icons and the Spb Diary.
BTW. Its a joke playing even Spb Arkball on the Kaiser...
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Sometimes it redaws off center and has to draw again. I just wait for it
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Yes, that happens, especially if there is some program running....
graphics: 1084
others: 1831
jpeg: 2286
games: 1284
sound: 0681
final score: 1433
Stock Tilt Rom, without the AT&T software.
The only mission I am on is to imporve the plight of the unhappy Kaiser owners.
Despite accusations of being an HTC spy etc etc, I just want to back up that my happiness with my device is due to it responding as fast as I need it to- which may also explain why HTC think the device is fast enough.
(Am trying to shoot vids now. Opera Mini will always take longer to redraw as its a java app inside a midlet mgr).
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I just said on the classaction.org thread that i had a friends Ipaq 6915 for few days and the difference in speed, i.e. opening programs menu is obvious.
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Just for the record, my fiancee's Wizard (used to be mine) is a faster when opening menus and redrawing the screen. Why? It's running WM5 stock ROM with almost nothing on it but basic functions. The today screen is empty. Only thing it has is S2U2 running on background (so that her purse doesn't keep calling me).
My Kaiser is filled with stuff, as you can see screenshots on my previous post in page 1.. and it's a it slower.. delay of 0.4 seconds doesn't bother me.
sharpja said:
graphics: 1084
others: 1831
jpeg: 2286
games: 1284
sound: 0681
final score: 1433
Stock Tilt Rom, without the AT&T software.
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It seems that reflashing to Dutty's v3 ROM makes it a bit faster. And, splitting hairs, replacing ati_d3d.dll to the one from LG seems (judging by VS benchmarks) to make it a tiny little bit faster as well.
Really bad quality videos... sorry! Did them in a rush on my old sony digital camera. Focussing would have helped...
Switching in today - portrait to landscape is faster than I am! Back to portrait takes nearly a second.
Switching and scrolling through emails.
My "stock" Kaiser - ATT Tilt -with a few apps installed and running Hotsynch to get my corporate mail, I scored the following:
Test 1 - 1067
Test 2 - 1772
Test 3 - 2176
Test 4 - 1244
Test 5 - 0786
Final Score - 1409
I got 1441 after soft reset with HotSynch running to synch mail wirelessly, then removed hotsynch and got 1509.
So, I guess I need to go ahead and flash my ROM.
I am new to the site and have to start reading the threads and getting familiar, but to jumpstart me, is there a "best" or "most used" ROM and Cab config that is popular and stable amongst the group? I saw a touchflow video on youtube - do many of them have that?
Tom
pearsth said:
I am new to the site and have to start reading the threads and getting familiar, but to jumpstart me, is there a "best" or "most used" ROM and Cab config that is popular and stable amongst the group? I saw a touchflow video on youtube - do many of them have that?
Tom
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Welcome, Tom =)
Most used ones are probably Dutty's v3 ROM and Alex's Home ROM. Also, many of our "most famous" cooks are testing and creating stable ROMs that run WM 6.1.. so if you want, you can just wait for a bit and reflash 6.1 ROM.
Hello to all. Sorry for my noobitity that will follow
On the screen of Raphael, on the upper right corner there is an arrow pointing down. There when i press it it says a number%, which i assume is the memory used. Now i want a program so when i free up memory that number will go down. Cause i have from SKTOOLS, Free Up Memory, though when i free the memory that number doesn't change at all. So i don't know if it works or not.
(usually it's 53%)
Sorry if i have posted in the wrong section.
Well, you've got a few choices. You can kill processes with a task manager (like dotFred's Task Manager) to free up some memory. Killing cprog.exe will save ~10 MB of ram, but then again, you won't be making phone calls again until you do a soft reset (not bad on an airplane, though). You can only do so much by killing processes. You can turn off Touchflo 3D in Setting-Today. This will save you maybe 6-8% of RAM usage. But, you'll have to live with the Today screen and not TF3D (or, check out Touchflo Detacher in this forum, it works real well). You can remove your bloatware by doing a hard reset and skipping customization. This will save a decent amount of RAM. Finally, you can flash a custom ROM. Most custom ROMs run at ~30-35% RAM usage with TF3D running.
You might look up cleanRAM in the Diamond themes forum. It works better than any other memory aid I've tried (SKTools and Clear Temp).
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention, i have a custom ROM (it's Romeos 1.95.4 by monx). Tough with his previous versions i was at 35%, now i am higher, without changing my installed programs. The issue is that even when i was at 35%,, after using programs it went up to 45% and then when i used free up ram it still said 45%, instead of 35%.
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I'm sorry, I forgot to mention, i have a custom ROM (it's Romeos 1.95.4 by monx). Tough with his previous versions i was at 35%, now i am higher, without changing my installed programs. The issue is that even when i was at 35%,, after using programs it went up to 45% and then when i used free up ram it still said 45%, instead of 35%.
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It sounds like you're minimizing and not killing programs when you close them. Change it so that hitting X kills programs under Settings-Button on the task manager (hit the quick menu arrow and then the wrench icon). And give cleanRAM a shot. It has a very nice custom list that allows you to kill processes that don't stop all the time, like active sync, pword, HTCAlbum.exe and Quickqps.exe. It clears up a lot of memory quickly and reliably. You don't need to soft reset very much when you use it.
Dear Farmer_Ted i have the X to close the programs already. I have also installed the cleanram. Active sync is not running on processes under a name like active_sync or wcescomm (unless it has another name) but i see it in the tasks tab. How can that be possible? not running as a process and running at tasks tab (all tab reffering to task manager)?
After running cleanram i have in use 98MB of Ram.. Is this a good number?
Well, in the processes active sync is called repllog, or something like that. It doesn't take up all that much memory, anyway (maybe 300 KB).
Does that ROM have TP2 manila? That may be your issue. It uses a ton of memory. There's not a whole lot you can do about it.
Yes its repplog you are correct...I can understand though, i've used EliasSyncKiller and SKtools,Notifications Tools, to disable repplog, but it still runs...hm...
Anyway yes the Rom prolly is "heavy..Even a clean install in the best pagepool gave a 38% (tired 0,4,8,12)
Thanks for your help though Farmer_Ted. Btw could you give me a link of a rom ur using/suggesting that is fast loading windows/uses little memory/runs programs fast/stable
Hi, maybe this is a stupid question:
I have a diamond with dib 1.33 rom installed, it's normal that with no open application minimum usage of ram is 77%
thanks
thats a bit high memory usage i think,
mine is at 55% when i have no active applications runing
(rom ver 1.37.407.2 GER)
it is normal if you havent soft rested for few days otherwise change rom
That is high, will make phone slow. Are you closing apps after use by tapping on Today screen Task Manager in upper right hand corner? You can go into tools and change settings that make them close automatically when you close them.
One of the features of WinMo is to have them running, so this might be where you are eating percent use.
Mine gets high dring the course of a couple of days sometimes up 90%
It's fine after a soft reset though - back down to 55-60%
God knows why it gets up so high when there are no applications running.
mine hardly ever hits 50% with normal use (programs set to close on X)
never had to Soft Reset either.
my opinion-go to windows folder find task manager,and you`ll see which processes uses such high ram
After an Hard Reset, a new installation of DIB rom V_1.33, and the installation of some apps, thi is the result: 73% (minimum is 65%).
Any suggestion?
Thanks
The best way is to use a light rom. I use Cloudy 1.1 without manila and then SPB Mobile Shell. I have about 60mB of ram free after a soft reset. After a day or so it reduces to about 50-55mB and that's where it stays with no running programs.
The second best way to increase your available ram without soft resetting is to use the freeram program in SKTools. Or you can use the free ram here: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cleanram.html.
These should help you.
mitsi said:
The best way is to use a light rom. I use Cloudy 1.1 without manila and then SPB Mobile Shell. I have about 60mB of ram free after a soft reset. After a day or so it reduces to about 50-55mB and that's where it stays with no running programs.
The second best way to increase your available ram without soft resetting is to use the freeram program in SKTools. Or you can use the free ram here: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cleanram.html.
These should help you.
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just used the free ram app, nice one....found out i had saved 7mb straight off on level two clean
Another variable that no one here discussed is Pagepool. Because the Diamonds lack of memory, it's recommended by chefs to use 10mg. This gives a balance between stability (doesn't use as much Ram as 12mg) but yet has good speed. Most chefs with the new ROMs have already switched to 10mg but it's always good to ask they haven't mentioned it.
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Another variable that no one here discussed is Pagepool. Because the Diamonds lack of memory, it's recommended by chefs to use 10mg. This gives a balance between stability (doesn't use as much Ram as 12mg) but yet has good speed. Most chefs with the new ROMs have already switched to 10mg but it's always good to ask they haven't mentioned it.
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Thanks, I'll try it.
I've been trying to find something about the subject but no luck so I'm posting it here.
I'm not sure if it's just a case of my D2 but the RAM consumption is extremely high. After about 48hrs since the last soft reset, with no application running, the RAM consumtion is whopping 74%!?!?! Reading from the windows Memory card is saying: Program: Total 183.73MB, In use 134.71, Free 49.02MB. Out of supposed 288MB of RAM on D2 this looks quite scary to me, I'm experiencing slowdowns of the system when I'm switching between Opera, Mail, ocassional phone call and Contacts. I hope my D2 is not faulty, but I'd like to hear from you guys if this is a common thing or a problem with my D2. I compared with my colleague's Touch Pro and he's never nowhere near these figures, he gets max to 50%, if that.
Any help is appreciated.
yeah, she's a leaker. I'm sure your device is fine. I think Opera chews up a lot. I notice bigger drops after using Opera.
Have you tried using CleanRam? You'll be pleased with its performance. I usually run it once a day or so and it keeps the memory 50% or lower.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cleanram.html
The Single biggest thing you can do to speed up your TD2 and release a lot of that RAM is to switch off TF3D. It's a much better phone without it in so many ways.
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yeah, she's a leaker. I'm sure your device is fine. I think Opera chews up a lot. I notice bigger drops after using Opera.
Have you tried using CleanRam? You'll be pleased with its performance. I usually run it once a day or so and it keeps the memory 50% or lower.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cleanram.html
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this one worked for me..sktools seems dont have enough privilege to kill some exclusive task. One main culprit is opera running in the background all the time..
I have been worried about what I thought was very high memory usage since I've had my TD2. Mine seems to settle at about 75%.
I have also noticed this drops to about 55% with TF3D turned off. As I like the TF3D interface a lot I'm not willing to lose it for the memory gains. I have tried running memory intensive apps like TomTom with TF3D on and off and there doesn't seem to be any significant difference.
I have been using Oxios CloseApps to free up memory. This work pretty well, but I'm going to give CleanRam a go, and see how it compares.
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yeah, she's a leaker. I'm sure your device is fine. I think Opera chews up a lot. I notice bigger drops after using Opera.
Have you tried using CleanRam? You'll be pleased with its performance. I usually run it once a day or so and it keeps the memory 50% or lower.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cleanram.html
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Many thanks, buddy, the app works a treat! D2 still manages to get to 75% of memory usage after a day or so but at least I don't have to restart to get to down 60%. It is still weird though, 75% of RAM constantly in use without an intervention - is this the way it was designed or just a poorly tuned ROM?
My TD2 stick %64-65 level after one week usage without soft reset .. Even with TF3D
Daily used programs are;
Opera *****
Youtube ***
Chronos alarm * (3 alarm set for morning.. also chrono and timer sometimes..)
iGO8 *
Resco File explorer *
Resco Photo Viewer *
GS Finder *
Pocket Music ***
Pocket Player * (for mono bluetooth headset music transfer at gym )
Core Player ***
Mobibook **
Several games **
* Stars indicate usage frequency for daily usage...
...but i'm upgrade my 1.39 stock rom to new asia 1.40... Before upgrade, it's like yours %75 memory usage or above.. 1.40 rom seems reduce memory consumption..
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Many thanks, buddy, the app works a treat! D2 still manages to get to 75% of memory usage after a day or so but at least I don't have to restart to get to down 60%. It is still weird though, 75% of RAM constantly in use without an intervention - is this the way it was designed or just a poorly tuned ROM?
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Well interesting...my HTC Raphael never goes over 55% and have similar apps in use as you do...
Mine usually is around 55%-60%.
Can I ask how you close opera? Do you just hit the x or do you exit from the menue. i have noticed that when I exit through the menue the ram percent drops significantly. I also saw an increase in batterey when I started exiting through the menue and not the x button.
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Well interesting...my HTC Raphael never goes over 55% and have similar apps in use as you do...
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I already mentioned that in the very first post.. My colleague's Rafael rarely gets over 50%, that's why I started to wonder if there's something wrong with my Topaz
Compared to the Raphael, the TD2 has more memory consuming apps, such as having the Enhanced TF3D with much more functions including the new start menu, new contacts center, new notifications & a higher resolution screen to name a few.
Don't worry about it
Free memory is wasted memory.
Your device should be using all the memory it can to cache all that it can and keep as many of your applications running as possible. That's how your device can switch between apps quickly. If you start another app which requires more memory than is currently available, WM will close one of the least used applications to make room. Until you start that second app, there's no point at all in closing the first one just so that the free/unused/wasted memory figure is increased. Symbian devices have had this behaviour for years and in fact it's been in place in WM for quite a few versions. Glad to hear that HTC's TF3D is making better use of it.
As it happens, Vista now adopts this policy, compared to previous desktop Windows versions: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000688.html.
HTC Touch Freak said:
i have noticed that when I exit through the menue the ram percent drops significantly. I also saw an increase in batterey when I started exiting through the menue and not the x button.
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This is the ticket with Opera at least. I noticed today that if you tap the X button, it will disappear from the HTC Task Manager so you think it's closed. However, I have SPB Mobile Shell 3.0 and also use its built in task manager assigned to one of my hard buttons. When the HTC TM shows no Opera running, I bring up the SPB one and sure enough it's still running. I wonder if HTC makes an exception to Opera due to the push internet feature so it doesn't appear in the Task Manager.
So, in other words, if you want to close Opera, use the 'Exit' command within the program.
*Any* program can make itself disappear from the user-facing Task List simply by declaring itself as a background task. My own D2 right now is running 14 of these background tasks, including Opera. Think of it like the difference between the "Applications" and "Processes" tabs in the regular Windows Task Manager. It's been suggested that Opera runs all the time to manage the Push Internet pages, although as I've said in an earlier post, there's nothing wrong in it staying around (so long as it's not consuming much CPU/battery), so that it's ready to be pushed to the front immediately when the user requires it.
You can make those "Back Ground" applications appear in the HTC Task Manager by deleting (or renaming) their names in the following registry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\