Making Installation Image - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

hi,
i have delicate question.
i'd like to make the instalation image, which can be directly loaded to wizard and all aplications and their states are set same as at the moment of creating image.
simply, the same method as used on standard computers.
and why a want this ?
i want it, because i'd like to test any new ROM and if i find it unusefull, then i can return to my last canfiguration without wasting time with installing all the stuff to my wizard.
thx for info

I would just use SPBBackup, Spire or Sunnysoft Backup Manager to create a backup of my Device + StorageCard. This way you always backup everything you have into one backup file.
If you want to create an image you might also consider using SPB Clone..
But the first choice works best for me
Only disadantage is that you will need a lot of storage to place the Backup on.

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Can Sprite Backup jeopardize ROM Updates?

Does anyone in here know if I can safeley reload my Sprite Back-Up after a ROM Upgrade without screwing-up details of the ROM-Upgrade ?
I mean: If I understand this right, after Booting parts of the ROM ar loaded into the RAM, which could be overwritten.
Or am I totally off here ?
After a rom upgrade, you should never restore a complete backup, regardless of the backup program you use. With sprite, it is easy to do a restore of individual databases (appointments, contacts, email, sms etc), as well as the document folder. The other option is to use the "device upgarde" functionality of Sprite Backup, but for that to work, you will need to make an image of the machine with the new rom I believe, and without anything installed. (but for that you need to check the manual).
You should never restore a full backup, since you will be restoring parts of the old ROM in the process.
I only use Sprite backup as a fall-back in case of a problem with a Rom update.
Even if you select the "allow upgrades" option, it can overwrite some of the data that you have just changed in the upgrade.
I have loaded all of my apps and data that I must retain on a memory card and I just reload them from it.
Hope this helps........Later
quote="jofeuerstein" ]Does anyone in here know if I can safeley reload my Sprite Back-Up after a ROM Upgrade without screwing-up details of the ROM-Upgrade ?
I mean: If I understand this right, after Booting parts of the ROM ar loaded into the RAM, which could be overwritten.
Or am I totally off here ?[/quote]
Here is how I see it: Any file that is not ROM-based will be pulled by Sprite Backup.
Even though a hard-reset will reload all the Extended ROM CAB files, they are still in the Storage/Program Memory and can still be replaced, deleted, etc. They are supplemental to the ROM files from the CE ROM core.
A good experience is when I upgraded to Build 3900 on my Extended ROM and restored a Sprite Backup file afterwards and noticed it went back to 3500. The BT*.* files in the Windows directory were backed up, and thus restored, overwriting the work done by the Extended ROM load.
The best thing to do is "move along" your backup file with your upgrades.
If you decide to recook your Extended ROM, upgrade CAB files or builds, then keep that upgrade CAB file handy to run again. I would highly recommend using a program such as OCP Software's WinCE CAB Manager to look into the CAB files you are replacing to see what files and registry entries get directly affected.
Bottom line method for me is 1. backup your PPC, 2. update the Extended ROM, 3. hard-reset, 4. restore the PPC, 5. reapply any new CABs from the Extended ROM, 5. rebackup the PPC.
By the way, the Upgrade works especially well when you have a new CE ROM that has new ROM files, such as Windows Media Player 10 (if and when it comes out). According to the instructions on Sprite's site, you run the Upgrade utility on the clean (hard-reset) image with the OLD ROM, perform the upgrade, then restore your backup WITH the Upgrade Data.
Thank you. Sounds very logical. A complicated process, but it beats reconfiguring the MDA after an Update by several hours ...
Good that all the people who envy us for our "MDAIII" don't know how much time we waste getting these machines to work ....
hdbueller said:
I have loaded all of my apps and data that I must retain on a memory card and I just reload them from it.
Hope this helps......
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you mean copy the "program files" folder to SD-card and the load it back ? or how :?:
You can copy all the CAB files from the C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync folder onto the SD card for safekeeping, or look for a program called CabBackup, which has been proven useful in many a situation.

How to make image?

Is it possible to make an image of my Wizard (like you do on a PC) that I can put onto another Wizard?
you could use spb backup for all except the rom
bbobeckyj said:
you could use spb backup for all except the rom
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Yes - but I want to move everything including OS to another Wizard that I bought for my wife.
well, flash your chosen - same rom. copy your spb backup file from yours to your wifes wiz and execute the restore file on hers.
you can try that or wait and see if anyone else has a different option.
another choice is spb clone, but i think that is very expensive ($299), and possibly the same thing but it may include the os - it doesn't say on the site

Saving Image of ROM

Hi All,
In the old days of the first generation XDA's we were able to save a copy of our device Rom configuration to an SD card. The data such as calendar entries etc. are saved separately and that's not a problem. But being able to basically save the device configuration is very useful if at some point we need to perform a hard reset.
Does anyone know how to do this with the TMO Wing?
not sure what exactly you mean by device configuration but maybe this is what your looking for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
You are able to backup appointments, call logs, contacts, messages, speed dials, tasks, custom (pretty much any file you deem to be useful)
You are also able to create a backup schedule which in my case creates a back up for everyday of the week.
hope that helps...
EDIT: maybe you might find this more useful
http://classic.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=14288&associateid=17
You are able to make a backup of the entire rom to one file. But I think this will only work with the same ROM version as the backup. Let me know and i'll hook you up with a copy if you can't get your hands on one.
cheers
Sprite backup will make a self executing file that can restore your settings and data.
It works pretty damn good, I use it on a regualr basis, it has some kind of rom upgrade mode, if you are restoring a backup from a previous version, but I have never messed with it ..
http://www.smartphone.net/software_detail.asp?id=2426

Looking for Full Backup (Making Image) Software

Hi,
I'm looking for full backup (making image, like a ghost for laptop PC) software.
I've ever used SPB, but it was not full image.
I'd like to make a image backup file onto storage card or my PC through USB, then once my TyTN has some critical issue, I'd like to do image back.
Do you have any recommendation software?
Your advices I appreciate!!
i haven't come across anything for ppc .. only software that allows backups. would be nice to create image backup though.
I think Sprite Clone does what you are asking for.
I use BackupManager that allows me to create .exe full backups.
Take a look here.
http://www.sunnysoft.com/software.php?idarticle=245
Price is $20 but it's worth the price.
Have to do a hard reset? Fine, just execute the backup file and everything is back!
I'm VERY happy with it.
By the way, it's very quick and my backup is stored on the memory card.
Sprite backup appears to backup the entire filesystem (PIM, windows, all folders and even SD) to an executable file. It runs before the device boots so i guess you could use it to "image" your phone. I have made a backup of my filesystem but i haven't tried to restore it yet. If it works, let me know, its the only thing stopping me flashing (apart from waiting for the drivers of course!!)
I dunno if its free, it came with my o2 stellar (kaiser)
http://www.spritesoftware.com/sprite-backup/
Actually, it looks like it might be free
My AT&T Tilt came with Sprite Backup, which seems to do a full image. I ran with the stock AT&T setup for the first 30 days I had the Tilt, but installed a lot of stuff on top of that. When I tried hard resetting it, I was able to restore everything right back to the way it had been at the time of last backup - data, apps, settings, registry tweaks, so forth (I was trying out Sprite to be sure of what it was actually doing).
I've also saved Sprite *.exe backups to my Vista desktop, via USB (home premium 32-bit SP1), and my G4, OS X 10.4.11 powerbook, for that matter (via bluetooth file transfer), put them back on my Tilt's storage card, and run them from there - no problems (I do not have my 4GB card encrypted).
Sprite works well. Ive done restores successfully and you can get Sprite Explorer which runs on your desktop and allows you to restore single files from your image which is great.
Thanks for your information!!
Now I'm trying to use Sprite Backup. Looks nice.
This is the one I was looking for.
Thanks (^_^)v
hmm but does it take a picture of the os stack as well? Im wondering because i want to experiment with ROMs when my current rom is working fine (i know i know - dont fix what aint broken!). I found spb clone which looks like it would do it so im gonna give it a shot.
spb clone is my 2c opinion.
never used others.
I've used it several time to clone my phone to a friend of mine phone's.
result = wonderful!
I use sprite backup aswell and its the best iv seen so far but it doesnt work across roms. So if you made a backup on a stock rom, you cant restore that backup onto a different rom.

Looking for a BU/Restore app that will do a "true restore".

Yes, I searched and couldn't find an answer.
This is what I'd like to do:
1) Back up everything on my phone.
2) Flash and play with different ROMs
3) Flash back the original ROM.
4) Restore the system to what it was..file by file EXACTLY what it was.
Now, before you say "SPB Backup", I'm using that. It works very nicely but it doesn't do a "true restore". It only adds new files and overwrites updated files. It doesn't delete files that aren't in the backup image. So SPB isn't quite what I need.
I wish to find a BU/Restore app that will put the system back *exactly* the way it was. Add new files, overwrite updated files and delete files that aren't in the backup image. IE: A "true restore".
Thanks
I don't think any backup utility will erase files for you; you need to do it yourself. If you want something automated, it's pretty easy to write a set of mortscripts that will delete all of the crap you want to get rid of regularly. It would probably take you an hour or two to get a script that would deleted a hundred or so files.
Fred Doolie said:
Yes, I searched and couldn't find an answer.
This is what I'd like to do:
1) Back up everything on my phone.
2) Flash and play with different ROMs
3) Flash back the original ROM.
4) Restore the system to what it was..file by file EXACTLY what it was.
Now, before you say "SPB Backup", I'm using that. It works very nicely but it doesn't do a "true restore". It only adds new files and overwrites updated files. It doesn't delete files that aren't in the backup image. So SPB isn't quite what I need.
I wish to find a BU/Restore app that will put the system back *exactly* the way it was. Add new files, overwrite updated files and delete files that aren't in the backup image. IE: A "true restore".
Thanks
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There is indeed a way to do this and as you said SPB Backup won't do it.
If you want to stick with SPB - then there is SPB Clone.
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/clone/
There is another one that came out recently Sprite Clone
http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/sprite-clone
I've used SPB Clone quite a bit in the past and it's always worked great. I have Sprite Clone but I haven't tried using it yet (no need at this time) - but this one might actually be better because it supports wm 6.5 and I don't think the other does yet.
There is a trial version of the Sprite Clone one here: http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/clone/clone-trial-request
and a trail version of the SPB clone one here:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/clone/download.html
So that's the good news. The bad news is how much it costs - yer lookin at 300 bucks.
I use SPB Backup but just hard reset the phone before using the standalone restorer.
You know, you should try out sk tools backup (comes with sk tools). I've used it a few times recently, and it will remove files that weren't present during the original backup procedure. I've seen it remove links in the startup folder and also remove files from the root of the storage system. I'd say it's pretty close to what you want, and you may already have it.
Farmer Ted said:
You know, you should try out sk tools backup (comes with sk tools)
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I will second the motion for SK Tools Backup. Once you make a backup file it copies an exe to the same folder for restoration purposes. When you need to do a full restore, hard reset your device and run the backup program that was created along with the backup file. It sets EVERYTHING back to the way things were.

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