I have one of the early Cingular 8125s with version 1.08 IPL/SPL and was trying to upgrade using summiter's latest 2.3 using his multi installer +CF2.
Pre-upgrade phone info
SPL: 1.08
IPL: 1.08
ROM 1.8.xxx (Can't remember the rest)
CID unlocked using lokiwiz (Done again just before upgrading)
SIM unlocked using lokiwiz (Done only when I first got the phone)
I originally selected the first option in the installer, which would have also upgraded my bootloader. This ended up just getting me into the RGB bootloader screen and failing, after which I would just remove the battery and reset.
I selected option 2 to update without changing the BL, and the installation seemed to run fine...until I tried to turn it on again after the flash.
Booting past the first cingular splash screen took longer than normal. Although it showed the 2.24 OS, I did not see any line stated the GSM version, only IPL, SPL and OS. Is that bad?
When I got into windows it was super slow and navigating was a chore. I rebooted, and the phone didn't turn back on! Read the forums a bit, I guess it can suck up more juice than expected during flashing, so I charged for a few hours....now I can boot up, but with the below issues.
1. I don't have a phone connection. Even in the new comm manager, I click on the phone setting, but it doesn't connect. The antenna up at the top has an exclamation point instead of the bars next to it. I can't get to the keypad screen, and I can't make any phone calls. Did the GSM upgrade possibly not complete? Is is supposed to show up in the splash screen?
2. I can't sync anymore. Nothing happens when I plug the phone in. I am not even sure it draws a charge, since I had it charging over usb for a few hours after upgrading and it didn't seem to charge much. AC power for a few hours did the trick and let me boot up.
3. Since I can't call anyone, its basically a PDA for now. But even the PDA function and general operation of the phone are really really slow. It takes time to drop down the start menu, or change screens. (~30 seconds to push "start") I am able to input personal info and it saves OK even after soft reboot. I have since cleared all info.
4. The battery indicator constantly shows the charging icon, even when unplugged. Battery status shows "Unknown." Phone doesn't know how to turn off after idle time, even though option is checked in settings.
I'm hoping someone here has some advice. Since I can't connect through activesync, it will be hard to make any upgrades. I had read about an miniSD card executable...hopefully that applies here.
Should I try booting into the Bootloader and connecting a USB cable? Holding the camera button and powering on doesn't seem to help.
Anyway, any input would be greatly appreciated guys. If there's any info I need to clarify, let me know.
New progress made
I am able to boot into the boot loader and when I connect by USB, it shows as connected in XP. Can I perform upgrades/downgrades from here?
Any suggestions as to the right path to take to end up with the latest ROM? Maybe I should stick with the Cingular release?
Good news everyone! (lame futurama reference)
I managed to install the cingular formal release once I booted into the bootloader.
In case anyone has this same problem, you hold the camera button down and press the power button. Let go of the power button and the RGB bootloader screen should show up. When connected to USB, you can install these packages.
When I'm gutsy enough again, I'll try summiters latest.
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Hi all, noob here. Followed all the reflash instructions as listed above and it all went fine until after installing wizard_love. It installed fine, blue WL loading screen, did the stylus calibrate stuff and the home screen looks fine. If I press start, it takes nearly ten seconds for the drop menu to drop, it will not connect to active sync, I have an exclamation point next to my signal symbol and an X next to my connectivity symbol on the top bar. I cant send nor recieve calls, acces the web etc. A, can this be sorted as I cant now install the t-mobile 2.25 rom, or B, can I go back to when just the button rom was on it, as it was very quick with that on it on its own? Any help appreciated guys.
And more, after realising the backlight wasnt going off, I turned it off and back on. NOW it wont get past the IPL,SPL numbers screen, seems to powerup then a second of black screen, then restart ad infinitum. Im pretty sure its completely broken now and very much doubt its repairable. I'll be amazed if this can be fixed, bearing in mind it wont come on, nor sync to a PC.
Turn your phone off and then hold the camera button while turning it back on. This will bring you to bootloader mode(a 3 colored screen displaying IPL and SPL).
Once you are there, reflash the T-Mobile Official Rom found HERE
This should bring your Wizard back to life again.
Before trying to upgrade again, make sure you read and reread everything about G3 devices so that you know exactly what you are getting yourself into so you don't end up with a very expensive paperweight.
I did that last night before checking the reply, and it works fine now but cheers for the help. I did follow instructions to the letter in the end but just lost confidence half way through, which was unneccesary as it worked fine. Got a right jumble of stuff on it now, WM6, touch-flo, icontacts etc. Is just how I wanted it. Now for emu's!!
Hey everyone, i couldnt find any information that helped me so i thought i would let you all know my problem. when i turn the phone on it freezes on the cingular splash screen and my ipl is 2.25, spl 2.25, gsm 02.25.11, os 2.25.11.1. When i go to the red blue green screen, my usb connection shows up on the white part, but when i try to install the official cingular rom it doesnt connect. it says that i need to make sure that i have a usb connection. then the screen goes white. any sugesstions?
tarusdg said:
Hey everyone, i couldnt find any information that helped me so i thought i would let you all know my problem. when i turn the phone on it freezes on the cingular splash screen and my ipl is 2.25, spl 2.25, gsm 02.25.11, os 2.25.11.1. When i go to the red blue green screen, my usb connection shows up on the white part, but when i try to install the official cingular rom it doesnt connect. it says that i need to make sure that i have a usb connection. then the screen goes white. any sugesstions?
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Which Windows are you using ? if you are at WinVista it won't work,always use WinXP,secondly do the following :-
1. Disconnect your phone from the usb cable,shut down any firewall,disable any Anti virus,Reboot your PC.
2. On your Desktop PC, open Microsoft ActiveSync, then go to File >Connection Settings >Remove the Selection from “Allow USB Connection with this desktop computer”
3. On your PC Open windows Task Manager...>Tab Processes...>wescomm.exe...>End process
4. Power off the phone completely (Not stand-by,shut off completely),or you may take the battery out for few seconds
5. Make sure your phone is not Connected to the PC via USB cable and remove the dummy Sdcard or mini-Sd card
6. Get your phone into Bootloader mode (Multicolor screen) by pressing camera button + Power on button
7. Reconnect your phone to the Desktop PC using the USB Cradle and the Charger MUST be Connected to the Cradle (Be sure that your battery is charged over 70%)
8. "USB"will appear on the bottom of the screen of the Bootloader (Multicolor screen)
9. Run the Upgrade again and it will work fine without any problems.
10.Never use Bluetooth sync for the Upgrade
While upgrading, the ActiveSync program will not go on, however the upgrade is running.Please be patient when you're flashing your device, even if 98%. It can wait a little bit, 5 ~ 7 minutes.
Don't cancell the flash or get the phone off the usb cable till it confirms "Congratulations" or stops with an Error!!!
Hope it'll work,
Cheers
i dont have a cradle just the usb cable. will tha be a problem?
i tried it with just the usb cable and it didnt work
any other suggestions?
it is time to junk it or donate to XDA-developers
...fades to white screen upon connection
I have a similar issue...my 8125 Wizard gets stuck on the splash screen. I follow the above procedure to the letter, get into Bootloader, make the USB connection, and then when I try to flash ANY ROM as it starts to connect the screen fades to white and it comes back with Error 274...Connection error! It doesn't matter what ROM I try...Button's 1.05, Love ROM, T-mobile 2.26, or the Cingular 2.25 ROM...the screen fades to white as it starts to connect. Any ideas Doc P?
The splash screen says:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
BTW, i've tried the MTTY_updateROM.exe ...miniSD card ...r2sd all approach ...the device is CID locked...
Started experiencing a strange issue with my tilt today..
When I soft reset it loads the Today screen, and then attempts to search for the contact 'wszx' (these keys are located next to each other). After this I can navigate the phone just fine using the touch screen, but the only buttons that work are the directional and center buttons located on the front of the phone, and the arrow keys on the keyboard. I cannot type at all using the keyboard, and pressing any of the other buttons does nothing (except the directional/center/Power). I also cannot Hard reset because the two soft-keys do absolutely nothing. I've hard reset in the past but it no longer works.
So am I SOL? I think I've tried everything.. and now I have a custom rom, etc on the phone and I have no way of getting it back to factory rom without the ability to hard reset.
Thanks for any help.
dam1en said:
Started experiencing a strange issue with my tilt today..
When I soft reset it loads the Today screen, and then attempts to search for the contact 'wszx' (these keys are located next to each other). After this I can navigate the phone just fine using the touch screen, but the only buttons that work are the directional and center buttons located on the front of the phone, and the arrow keys on the keyboard. I cannot type at all using the keyboard, and pressing any of the other buttons does nothing (except the directional/center/Power). I also cannot Hard reset because the two soft-keys do absolutely nothing. I've hard reset in the past but it no longer works.
So am I SOL? I think I've tried everything.. and now I have a custom rom, etc on the phone and I have no way of getting it back to factory rom without the ability to hard reset.
Thanks for any help.
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Sounds like a hardware issue or simply a bad flash. Have you attempted to reflash the rom? Which rom are you using?
Well...
It wasn't working again this morning, but suddenly - out of nowhere - began to work properly. I'm stumped. If I ever figure out the exact issue I'll be sure to post back.
Thanks
Greetings,
I have same problem on my tytn...
Sometimes it suddenly starts working fine, but shortly it breaks again.
I have tried hard-reseting while it was working, but didnt help.
I think the problem appeared after charging my phone with a motorola v3 charger, so maybe it damaged my phone with over-voltage or something...
Anyway, if someone can suggest something i would be very grateful!
Hi I have exactly the same symptoms with my HTC Tytn II...when you power it on it starts typing letters (in my case CEDF). If the recording button is active it will start recording too. This happened suddenly and I haven't used any other charging apart from the usb and wall socket charger supplied with it.
All buttons (except front center key) and keyboard do not work. Any suggestions would be appreciated very much. This phone is only 8 months old.
Hi,
my Kaiser with dutty's WM6.1WWE ROM did the same this morning Yes I disabled the button 6 and stopped the voice recordings but all the hardware keys but few in the center of the keyboard are not responding. So I cant make or receive calls without taking the stylus out and touching the screen soft buttons andd that's pin in the ... while I am driving. I am using this ROM for almost a year now and I am extremely hapy (up to now) with its performance. When it all happened there were no activities on the phone - I woke up from a SMS notification (Yes I did receive an SMS from my bank) followed by repeting Voice Recordings. Any help will be highly appresiated! Thanks in advance!
keyboard problem
I am experiencing a similar problem with my stock tilt my keyboard does work however none of the text appears on the screen. I have tried hard reset and everything else I could think of, short of a clear storage reload. I would appreciate any help or suggestions from some of you more experienced users.
Bisonwill
anyone ever figure this problem out? im having the same thing happen now.
Same here
I've had it for a couple of weeks now.
I'm running WM6.1 from HTC (rom ver.3.29.422.1 from 2009-01-12) so nothing fancy here.
I even ordered and replaced the D-Pad and I replaced the keyboard (just the sticky part though). I totaly dismantled the phone and didn't find any issues with the cables.
Any ideas would be highly appreciated
Join the club!
This is crazy. My problem is exactly the same. I re-romed to the latest phoenix and it did not change a thing.
Help!
help....
any body here found a solution for the keypad/keyboard yet??? i have the same problem as you guys... any idea, thanks so much...
i have the same problem And there is something else. My Kaiser wakes up every 2 minutes - it's killing the battery. It works only for 6 hours now
Help
bump!!!
No more people with this issue or any solutions?
Pls! Help
ive joined the gang!
I decided to flash my cooked rom ive been working on.
i hadnt changed much in the kitchen and i think the flash has went badly.
it starts booting windows and where it should state "calibrate screen" it goes white and hangs there, buttons seem to respond by lighting up when pressed.
Now when i try to get it into bootloader or even hard reset it just doesnt work.
it just restarts the phone.
before this happened the backspace key hasnt been working for ages.
anybody got any ideas??
(lucky for me i have a backup kaiser!)
I'm having the same problem. Automatic wakeup, applications starting automatically, can't use keyboard, have to to use screen to use phone etc. I've hardreset using the clear storage method, reflashed a couple of times, but nothing helped. So here I am joining the club
If it's not a hardware issue, then try to flash another radio, many of the custom ROMs here doesn't include a radio, so if it's caused by a wrong radio, flash a new ROM without a radio doesn't help.
Check the Sticky for 'how to' if not aware.
PS: Check here for something need to know..
The question is.... how do I flash the device if I cant get it to go to boot loader and the OS wont boot properly !?
I think its an official Brick!
the really odd thing I've discovered is sometimes the OS leaves the loading screen on, and when it does if I press the FN and folder key, I get explorer up but its not responding... I haven't tried inserting a memory card yet to see if I can access that.
Danhargreaves said:
The question is.... how do I flash the device if I cant get it to go to boot loader and the OS wont boot properly !?
I think its an official Brick!
the really odd thing I've discovered is sometimes the OS leaves the loading screen on, and when it does if I press the FN and folder key, I get explorer up but its not responding... I haven't tried inserting a memory card yet to see if I can access that.
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Try this:
1. Take out the battery from the phone.
2. Take out SIM card and SD card.
3. Press in and hold the CAMERA button.
4. Plugin to your computer using the USB cable, while keep holding press in the CAMERA button.
See does it enter the BOOTLOADER mode.
Once entered the BOOTLOADER mode, you can flash a new radio or rom right from there, in your regular way of running KaiserCustomRUU.exe.(Since you already have a HardSPL flashed on, otherwise a HardSPL is needed to flash first.)
Good luck.
Edit: If the power button and the camera button is still working, you can use the regular way of entering BOOTLOADER mode, and flash from bootloader mode or flash from SD card.
Originally posted by Manpreet @ www.sakajati.com
To enter in bootloader mode:
Simply Switch off your phone. Press and hold camera button and also press and hold the power button..You can remove ur finger from power button when phone is switched on but keep holding camera button until u come to bootloader …Now attach the usb to ur computer and do the flashing you normally do.
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Thx for your suggestion:
I tried removing battery as sim and sd were already removed due to previous attempts in fixing!
so:
i removed battery (did not put back in), plugged in while holding camera
got nothing, so held power button at same time, the green light came on, then went off, and came back on again. but no bootloader.
i tried same procedure with battery in, and all i get is the OS loading up, no bootloader no matter how long i hold the buttons.
is there any other alternative method to get into bootloader (possibly involving other button presses)?
or any other ideas.
Really want to fix this as it was my "experimental" phone for cooking roms with.
Thanks again.
Suspect you have some hardware issue with the camera button. Can you ever take a photo with it?
Edit: Did you read through every post onthis thread:
MTTY (How to fix a bad ROM flash!)
If you tried that and still no luck, you can post your questions there. There are masters will keep an eye on that thread. And generally they only have time to look into their 'subscribed' threads, chances are they will not look into here.
Edit: Maybe the procedure I told is wrong, since I call from memory, check this:
dwny said:
If you have a bad flash....that's no reason to worry.
I haven't had to use MTTY to recover.
In most cases, if there's no issues with the Rom itself...you can pop out the battery and re-flash the same ROM from BootLoader Mode. This will also work if for some reason your computer crashes or loses power & restart during the FLASH.
If the Rom has issues.....the flash will not complete and the device will be stuck in BootLoader Mode. At this point,you must FLASH a FACTORY ROM!!
Pop the battery off 1st, power up the device, device will power up in BootLoader Mode, connect to pc & FLASH your devices FACTORY ROM. This will restore your device back to it's original out the box settings.
The above only works if the device has been put through the Hard SPL or SuperCID process.
I personally have never tried to flash a cooked ROM without unlocking any of my devices. From what I've read what others have experienced...the flash would just fail and they're stuck in BootLoader Mode.
Myself ... I've experienced bad flashes, bad cooked roms that I've cooked, lost power to a pc & had my pc crash during a flash. Listed above is how I've recovered. There is life after Bootloader Mode.
The only time you have to worry is if your device does not power up at all
As a public chef...it's your responsibility to set the parameters of your ROM! Meaning, Radio, HardSPL, program conflicts, etc.
You are not ultimately responsible if someone bricks their phone but if they pushed the issue, you could be hit with some form of liabilty because you failed on providing a simple Disclaimer that sets the expectation.
I hope I've been helpful.....
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And try like:
Plug in USB first, and thenn press & hold Camera, Power button etc.
I remember once I read there is a way to enter bootloader without battery, just can not find the original again.
Ok, I know not everyone will have a similar situation and maybe my post is quite late since many might have moved on to other nicer phones ;-)
I was uploading ROM using ShellTool that takes awfully long and my PC (an XP) decided to download updates and reboot all by itself. Needless to say, I was stuck at the boot screen with the IPL, SPL, GSM and the OS screen. The OS was showing 6.0.0.1 and that's it. pressing the Voice Dial and COMM button and resetting didn't help. So out of frustration, I pressed the Camera and Voice Dial buttons and did a reset and Presto, got the Red, Green, Blue with USB screen. I was able to load ATT's WM5 on it. Am sure many will like to know this minor pleasant mishap.
Hard Reset is mentioned here http://www.pocketpccentral.net/help/cingular/8125reset.htm
I would call my trick as the Hard Wiping
ak2k8 said:
Ok, I know not everyone will have a similar situation and maybe my post is quite late since many might have moved on to other nicer phones ;-)
I was uploading ROM using ShellTool that takes awfully long and my PC (an XP) decided to download updates and reboot all by itself. Needless to say, I was stuck at the boot screen with the IPL, SPL, GSM and the OS screen. The OS was showing 6.0.0.1 and that's it. pressing the Voice Dial and COMM button and resetting didn't help. So out of frustration, I pressed the Camera and Voice Dial buttons and did a reset and Presto, got the Red, Green, Blue with USB screen. I was able to load ATT's WM5 on it. Am sure many will like to know this minor pleasant mishap.
Hard Reset is mentioned here http://www.pocketpccentral.net/help/cingular/8125reset.htm
I would call my trick as the Hard Wiping
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It's not a trick, it is called the RGB bootscreen.
not same as RGB, the actual boot.
well, all I got stuck was at the boot screen, not the RGB screen, the screen that just shows the IPL, SPL, GSM and OS numbers with the Cingular screen. I did not find anywhere that showed me to get out of the screen till I accidentally came across it. Actually, the record button is not necessary, just the camera button is fine while pressing the reset and holding it till the RGB screen is back.
Where did you get AT&T's WM5 rom, I am having the same problem. I have the IPL/SPL but can't find the rom, the link in the thread here no longer works.
Thanks.
I was following the guide for putting the button rom, and then the loki. all that went ok. The problem was I replaced the nbk file of the ipl/spl 3.08 file with the one from a radio download (radio 27111) and when it flashed now the phone doesn't recognize anything plugged into the usb port. Won't charge or nothing. no lights come on . I tried holding the camera and power button, and then pressiong the reset button, taking both hands off the buttons and then pressing power again and holding it to get in the bootloader multicolor screen, and it doesn't recognzie it either on my pc there. any suggestions?
it still loads the buttons flash rom and goes to the phone itself (old stock windows mobile) and pressing the start button takes like 15 secs to show the drop down start menu.
oh also it still says ipl 1.08 and spl 1.08 in the buttons splash pic....
although i was trying to put that 3.xx one
if anyone has:
tmobile RUU_Prodigy_1081002_108_10910_TMO_US.exe
please send me or give me a link. I tried googling but they all lead to the ftp server here (as we know has no files now on it). Someone said that worked for them. I tried another tmobile official one and it doesn't work. In boot loader (the multicolor screen) when i connect the usb the word usb shows, but the rom program on xp doesn't see it and I get an error 260 update error which says it can't connect to my phone.
Update: I tried the newest official tmobile software from their site and it does nothing. It does show the "usb" at the bottom in bootloader when I connect it, but the tmobile software (or anything) doesn't recognize it and gives a error 260.
When in windows (as it still goes) it shows the unknown battery thing and doesn't show how much battery life is there, along with being real slow. I didn't have a sim card in it ever while doing this but prob has no service either.
eh
50 views and im the only one with that problem ever? no one knows?
correction. it DOES charge.
same problem
hey, Ihave exactly the same problem, any luck finding a cure for this? would like to flash another rom but can't sync, do you know how to flash from SD card maybe that'll help us?
petesavva said:
hey, Ihave exactly the same problem, any luck finding a cure for this? would like to flash another rom but can't sync, do you know how to flash from SD card maybe that'll help us?
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does your read sd cards?
no luck yet.
Hello,
Let`s start... maybe this will help you too guys... But first of all i want to know if your phone`s go in bootloader mode... ( just reset with the stylus and then hold just the camera button) and then it goes in the 3 color screen...
Let me know if you`ve got your phone`s in bootloader mode.... Replay as soon as posible... and... did you`ve tried another USB cable?
If you want to charge the phone, get the battery out, put it back, put the charger in, then hold the power button until it starts chargeing... 10-15 seconds max.
And if you get the phone in bootloader mode do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4104858&postcount=3
Regards.
eXPLOiTeD said:
Let`s start... maybe this will help you too guys... But first of all i want to know if your phone`s go in bootloader mode... ( just reset with the stylus and then hold just the camera button) and then it goes in the 3 color screen...
Let me know if you`ve got your phone`s in bootloader mode.... Replay as soon as posible... and... did you`ve tried another USB cable?
If you want to charge the phone, get the battery out, put it back, put the charger in, then hold the power button until it starts chargeing... 10-15 seconds max.
And if you get the phone in bootloader mode do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4104858&postcount=3
Regards.
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it is in boot loader.. shows ipl 1.01 and spl 1.08 in the red section, and when i connect usb cable (good one) usb shows on the white at the bottom. in device manager i dont have the windows cd usb devices. in fact the pc doesnt even beep.
hnmm
bump......