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So it seems that so many people are enjoying there GPS enabled HTC trinity, there are so many people however (including me) are still afraid to do the move... still waiting for the official HTC ROM (who knows when is it gonna come, if it will come at all)....
My question is for those braves who upgraded already, would you guys please tell us about any problems you have with your devices since you upgraded ? speed, freezing, memory, odd behaviors, just any thing worth mentioning
Couple of minor things really..
Once in a while the start menu pops up without me pressing the corresponding buttons.
Once in a while after soft resetting, it does not start up the phone part. It keeps saying no service, but after a couple of flight mode on/off's it asks for my pin number and it starts up again.
For some reason, if I get a text message, and want to read it, the device shows the bottom part of the message first, most of the time being white and I have to scroll up to read the text.
But again, just minor things, apart from the last one, it might happen once a week or so...
The_Stranger said:
Couple of minor things really..
Once in a while the start menu pops up without me pressing the corresponding buttons.
Once in a while after soft resetting, it does not start up the phone part. It keeps saying no service, but after a couple of flight mode on/off's it asks for my pin number and it starts up again.
For some reason, if I get a text message, and want to read it, the device shows the bottom part of the message first, most of the time being white and I have to scroll up to read the text.
But again, just minor things, apart from the last one, it might happen once a week or so...
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I have none of these problems.
Only small problems I have discovered:
Timezone bug, the timezone switch back to -8 (in stead of +1).
I correct this by putting localtime and visitingtime on +1.
Alarm bug, the alarm only vibrate and rings ones.
It does not wake me up
Camera bug, the camera driver does not close the Ati driver for some reasons.
After I used the Camera I could not use CorePlayer with Ati playback until a softreset.
But I am very happy with the new rom.
It feels more stable to me then ROM 1.15 NLD.
Hi, I've updated my Trinity with this ROM.
All works fine, except that it doesn't work with my SIM card.
When I insert the SIM card, I got a message and the Network Wizard:"Your current operator (23433) is not supported. You should obtain an update from your device vendor.
Would you like to select another network provider?
Basically I can't connect to the network and the network wizard gave me only asian and australian operator I can choose from, but I'm on Orange and in UK!!
Please let me know what's wrong!
Cheers
adewidt said:
Only small problems I have discovered:
Timezone bug, the timezone switch back to -8 (in stead of +1).
I correct this by putting localtime and visitingtime on +1.
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Got this one too, I've read it had something to do with actice sync, but I did the same thing as you and it solved it for me too...
Alarm bug, the alarm only vibrate and rings ones.
It does not wake me up
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Never noticed, I'm pretty sure it does ring more than once...
Camera bug, the camera driver does not close the Ati driver for some reasons.
After I used the Camera I could not use CorePlayer with Ati playback until a softreset.
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No problem on my side (and since you never mailed the ATI driver to me because it might shut the camera off, i've got no problems whatsoever with coreplayer of the camera )
But I am very happy with the new rom.
It feels more stable to me then ROM 1.15 NLD.
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Agree...
gioazz said:
Hi, I've updated my Trinity with this ROM.
All works fine, except that it doesn't work with my SIM card.
When I insert the SIM card, I got a message and the Network Wizard:"Your current operator (23433) is not supported. You should obtain an update from your device vendor.
Would you like to select another network provider?
Basically I can't connect to the network and the network wizard gave me only asian and australian operator I can choose from, but I'm on Orange and in UK!!
Please let me know what's wrong!
Cheers
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Uhmm... first thing that is wrong is that you posted this in three threads!
From what others have said the network wizard can be removed.
If the phone works with an italian SIM (as you said somewhere else) but not with the Orange SIM then maybe the Orange SIM is very old and doesn't work in a 3G phone? Or was it working before the upgrade?
ok, you're right...sorry about that..
Anyway, my sim card works, I found out that my phone, accept all the cards but Orange!!
Is possible that a device can reject one operator SIM? do you know if exist a SIM lock only for one operator?
So far I have not noticed any negative effect which is said on the above (timezone, start button poping out, etc) thread. However, I found the improvements as per below:
1) Camera Zoom Function now works (was not working before)
2) Better battery life (finish charging in the morning, made one call & by evening still shows 100%)
3) More responsive (AKU3.3)
4) Of course the internal GPS works ;-)
gioazz said:
Hi, I've updated my Trinity with this ROM.
All works fine, except that it doesn't work with my SIM card.
When I insert the SIM card, I got a message and the Network Wizard:"Your current operator (23433) is not supported. You should obtain an update from your device vendor.
Would you like to select another network provider?
Basically I can't connect to the network and the network wizard gave me only asian and australian operator I can choose from, but I'm on Orange and in UK!!
Please let me know what's wrong!
Cheers
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You can possibly solve this by following the next steps.
Do a hard reset.
Follow the first usage screens (Time, alignment etc).
After you click Finish do a softreset.
Normally the device install some Dopod software after you click finish. By doing a softreset the dopod software is not installed. You warning/error is possible caused by Dopod software. It installes some extra not usefull (for European people) network software.
The_Stranger said:
No problem on my side (and since you never mailed the ATI driver to me because it might shut the camera off, i've got no problems whatsoever with coreplayer of the camera )
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I use the normal Ati drivers at the moment.
With the older Ati drivers the camera did not work anymore.
Try the next steps:
Do a softreset.
-Open CorePlayer or BetaPlayer and play a video (using the Ati video playback)
-Close CorePlayer or BetaPlayer
-Start the camera
-Close the camera
-Open CorePlayer or BetaPlayer again.
-Now I got a green screen and doesn't see any video playback with the Ati drivers.
-Do a softreset
-Open CorePlayer or BetaPlayer and the video is working fine again (using Ati driver)
I am not the only one with this problem.
My problems with that rom:
1.
Your current operator (23433) is not supported. You should obtain an update from your device vendor.
Seems to be a "fake error msg".
2.
Tomtom 5.1 is starting very slowly and Gps signal isn't found immediately. Takes up to 5 minutes!!!
3.
Sometimes Active Sync starts invisible without plugging my trinity onto my pc.
4.
sometimes my contact list is invisible, pressing on start solves that problem.
5.
my clock does the +1 to -8 switch....
6. my transcend 4gb mini-sdhc card is sometimes there, sometimes not.... holy ****!
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good things:
no camera bug
gps working
i hope that a original htc update is being released very soon....
greetz alex
1.
Your current operator (23433) is not supported. You should obtain an update from your device vendor.
Seems to be a "fake error msg".
What you mean by that?
"current operator not supported"
I think this message is occuring because the ROM is expecting a set of suppliers from the original region for the ROM. When you use it in other regions, it's not finding these providers, but it sucessfully connects to your local provider instead. I've had this error message, and when it appears, there's an option to say "don't display this again". Once I did this, I've never seen it appears again, and my phone is working well with no problems.
Lee.
my problem with the gps rom is these
1) voice calls go to voicemail automatically, seems to happen after a sequence of programs that i use, cannot identify at the moment possibility, gps or wifi program, a soft reset fixs this , but it will come back again
2) gps fix sometimes can take quite some time about 5 minutes b4 getting a fix
Use PIE to go to https://pda.hkjc.com/pda/MainMenu.aspx and click any of the link (e.g. Horse Racing), you'll get "The link is improperly formatted" error. Seems like this is a bug in IE handling Javascript.
I've tried hard-resetting the machine (i.e. no additional application installed) and the same error happens.
I also used another D810 with an old ROM (1.17) and this problem couldn't be reproduced.
This is frustrating ....
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Use PIE to go to https://pda.hkjc.com/pda/MainMenu.aspx and click any of the link (e.g. Horse Racing), you'll get "The link is improperly formatted" error. Seems like this is a bug in IE handling Javascript.
I've tried hard-resetting the machine (i.e. no additional application installed) and the same error happens.
I also used another D810 with an old ROM (1.17) and this problem couldn't be reproduced.
This is frustrating ....
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For me all ok with dopod gps enabled.
Mrjack69,
Mrjack69 said:
For me all ok with dopod gps enabled.
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Do you mean you can click further into one of the links (e.g. Football, HorseRacing) on the page without error?
I swear that my MP3 quality is GREATLY degraded after upgrading to the test rom. Used to be rich with plenty of bass when plugged into my car aux input when I was using HTC rom, now it sounds like I am listening through a tin can!!! Sounds like most of the lower frequencies are not being sent out of the audio output. Could this just be a connection problem in the jack and just coincidence that I had just put on the new rom?
Anyone else with the same experience?
1. No bass
2. Slow screen response when stylus is constantly on it. ie play games like skyforce.
3. When bluetooth is on, unit randomly turns on and stays on.
Eagerly awaiting a rom upgrade.
Good for most part
Occasionally takes long time to find gps.
Once connected works great.
Sometimes have to soft reset after using gps software.
I use my external Bluetooth when I use TOM TOM. Its a hell of a lot quicker and easier.
Hi everyone
I am new here and this is my first post, so please go easy on me.
I wanted to start by congratulating all the contributors on this forum on a great job done.
I’ve just ordered an SPV M700 on Orange and have a couple of questions
1- I need to unlock the phone to be able to use an O2 Sim card in it.
2- I want to be able to use The GPS in the phone.
To use the O2 SIM do I just need to do a SIM unlock, or do I have to do a CID unlock to? Err what is CID in the first place
My understanding is that the Orange ROM has the GPS enabled, am I correct? If so, all I have to do is install software like Tomtom Navigator and all should work, right?
As you can see, I am not that technical and do not want to mess the phone up by venturing into un-chartered territories.
Thank you for any help
1, yes you just need a SIM unlock. You will find the necessary tools on this forum to do this.
2, it seems that the current batch of Orange phones are shipping with the gps enabled rom, so yes just install tomtom.
I think CID stands for country ID (or something like that), you only need to unlock this if you intend to install firmware from another country e.g. the gps enabled Depod firmware. Providing your orange supplied phone has their most recent firmware you won't have to worry about this.
I've just found out what orange are doing. ONLY their Business phones have it enabled.
So if you order the phone on a personal account you don't get the GPS enabled.
However if you order it on a business account you can have it.
The third option is to learn French and flash the publicly available french rom to it.
(That's assuming you want it to be supported by orange themselves)
Else use one of the cooked roms and you're sorted.
EDIT: I've just got off the phone to Orange. The third option above would still be covered by insurance. Though if anything goes wrong it would have to be listed as a technical fault and go back to their free post address.
no, you are wrong, i am personal account, the rom is gps enabled
You flashed it to enable it. The GPS ROM is there but with one of the earlier firmware versions which doesn't enable it. (I got my information directly from Orange. If you were lucky enough to get a business phone sent out to you then I'm extremely jealous (and ask you again to upload your firmware ) but after about 40 mins of bouncing me around centers and giving me lame excuses or saying they were the wrong department I finally got a straight answer out of 2 seperate departments saying this was indeed the case)
If you look on the Orange site:
Business:
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...s&c=OUKDevice&cid=1044134008063&extarg1=Phone
It can deliver you directly to your meetings, thanks to it's built-in GPS with Sat Nav from Orange.
Personal:
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/show/handset/orange_spv_m700/features
No mention of any GPS is listed.
I know the GPS is there and functions as I've used a cooked ROM to enable it.
Plus as has been pointed out you can freely get the Orange France version of the firmware which has GPS enabled.
no no no, i didn't flash it before enable it, i can use the gps with tomtom 6 when i first got the phone, i need to flash it because i need to make it sim unlock..( i got it on 28/02/07, from the orange shop)
and even the manual with my spv m700, it also mention about the gps.
siupiu said:
no no no, i didn't flash it before enable it, i can use the gps with tomtom 6 when i first got the phone, i need to flash it because i need to make it sim unlock..( i got it on 28/02/07, from the orange shop)
and even the manual with my spv m700, it also mention about the gps.
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This is good News
I will get mine tomorrow - hopefully
Alas, I need to use an O2 Sim card though, so I must go down the SIM unlock route. I am in a dilemma between
1- Using the Prof's unlocking solution here
or
2- Paying up the $38 for peace of mind here here
Forget about solution 2
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Forget about solution 2
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I second that
the-oneil said:
This is good News
I will get mine tomorrow - hopefully
Alas, I need to use an O2 Sim card though, so I must go down the SIM unlock route. I am in a dilemma between
1- Using the Prof's unlocking solution here
or
2- Paying up the $38 for peace of mind here here
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you may to have a look of this post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296327
SPV M700
Just to let you all know:
I just spoke to Orange about upgrading my M600 to M700. Vry nice lady ( after three atempts) has confirmed that M700 has GPS receiver built in. It would not show anywhere on Comms but it is selectable once you install SatNav software and it is on COM9.
So I think that anewers the original question.
Happ Navigating
Got my SPV M700 from Orange yesterday.
I went into the favorit > Sat Nav & downloaded Orange's Sat Nav program (It woked a treat - No ROM flashing or anything ) It actually guided me back home.
So yes, Orange UK ROM is 100% GPS enabled.
the-oneil not all are coming with GPS enabled. I know as I've seen 2 so far which came without the GPS working. Must depend on the batch they send out.
i think that depends on which rom version, that one with the following version must have GPS..
Operator version : 19.123.1.615
ROM version: 1.23.61.5
Rom date : 01/25/07
Radio version : 1.30.00.01
Protocol version: 32.63.7020.08H
I didn`t have to enable GPS on my M700. I installed a sat nav system ( Navigon MN6) and it connected by itself. I have a black M700 but on a personal account. The black ones were originally only reserved for new business accounts. Don`t know if that is significant.
I have now just installed Route 66 Navigate 7 in place of Navigon but it can`t seem to connect to the GPS receiver. Anyone help with that? I can only find one way to access the GPS seetings, in Systems/connections/GPRS Settings, and the only option is to change from PAP Authentication to CHAP Authentication. I don`t know what the difference between them is ( I`m not a techie!!) but it makes no difference anyway.
Any advice would be appreciated
Don't confuse GPS (Global Positioning by Satellite) with GPRS (General Packet Radio Service). If you mess with the GPRS settings, you may stop your phone from being able to use mobile data.
The M700 doesn't come with the GPS control panel visible, and generally speaking you don't need it to. Windows Mobile 5 comes with a software patch which distributes a GPS signal to any application requiring it, but some GPS applications can't work with this. I presume Route 66 may be one of them (as is TomTom).
Go to your Route 66 settings, and in the GPS setting options, set COM port to COM9 and Baud rate to 57600, which are the default hardware settings for the M700.
Now go to somewhere with a clear view of the sky for about 10 minutes, to allow the program to download all the necessary satellite information.
the-oneil,
I did the same as you with my brothers Trinity but I have a small problem with the internet settings.
I downloaded a cab file from a forum request on this site but it did not work for me and so I then copied the settings from a site called 'filesaveas' and itwork for me except in one way.
When I try to access my brothers Hotmail account via Pocket MSN I could not do it, however when I accessed Hotmail via Internet Explorer it was ok.
So I have some kind of error in the settings somewhere that still needs to be resolved. I contacted O2 for the settings but they would not give them to me because it is not an O2 handset. The screen asks me repeatedly for 'Incoming Email Password', which is exactly the same one as when I use Internet Explorer to acces Hotmail.
So let me know if you get the above working on yours and perhaps I could copy your settings.
Cheers!
And good luck!
Thanks NeilM,
Trouble is, I`ve tried and tried to find somewhere in the Route 66 menu where I can change GPS settings, but no luck. I`ve been checking through the files using File Explorer but can`t find anything anywhere that allows me to do that. Can you suggest somewhere I might find it or would it be pretty obvious, like going into the main menu in Route 66 when it`s running, and looking for a GPS settings tab. There isn`t one. It has a tab called GPS information but that just gives GPS status info, no way of changing any settings. Guess I`m stuffed!!
According to the Route66 help, it only supports Bluetooth GPS, not inbuilt receivers.
In fact their compatibility list is so old, I wonder it works on any current device
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According to the Route66 help, it only supports Bluetooth GPS, not inbuilt receivers.
In fact their compatibility list is so old, I wonder it works on any current device
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Thats great, thanks for letting me know, I can stop messing around with it now and go for something else or get a bluetooth receiver. The built in receiver isn`t that great anyway. I read somewhere that it was an 8 channel receiver. I have tried Navigon MN6 already with my M700 and I noticed that it`s positioning leaves a lot to be desired. I wondered if it might be something to do with the receiver as I didn`t expect it to be a SirfstarIII. So I might at some point just get myself a decent quality bluetooth SirfstarIII. Any recomendations?
Cheers for now
I can't understand why so simple things cannot be resolved in the life.
I can understand that an operator can decide to don't give some feature, but for what I understood the things should be like this:
1. all UK operators like 3, vodafone, t-mobile offers access to internet for pay and go customers. O2 says not, or that a lot of mobiles do not support it.
Now. I was with polaris/touch cruise able to surf with explorer and use google maps, just problems to update the weather in the main screen. And was ok for me.
Now, I switch to Diamond, the result? i cannot surf anymore and use google maps! Now the answer should be to swith to 3, but I needed O2 and is problematic to switch. Of course I will do if I won't find a solution.
So my question is, have you found a solution to surf and use google maps with O2 payandgo even on the Diamond?
if not, I'm stupid or how is possible that in 2008 a device should be not able to connect to service of O2, I mean, how is possible that O2 says that is the device not supported or that don't support them etc etc, I mean, who is wrong here, is O2 that is doing the possible to don't give this service to us or what? if is so, nobody did something to sign a petition and ask them to do what their competitors do, even more expensively, but with every UK operator is possible to surf, why just with O2 not!!!! Payandgo.
Let me know please.
if I need to flash the ROM, change, upgrade, or whatever you want to let it work let me know.
Thank you in advance,
your disperately,
payandgo... go.. go..
I would check your setting are the same as when you had the polaris/touch cruise, other than that you really need to change operator
Usually for paygo they route the internet using a different APN. This is usually because they block certain ports.
The operators usually say 'this device isnt suported' because their automatic system isnt able to SMS the provisioning to your phone. That doesnt mean you can't edit it manually.
Just copy the connection settings from another phone where it works onto your diamond.
It sounds like the auto setup in the diamond is using some different APN or a proxy, and your old device didnt.
of course I do manual settings... cannot work with the automatic that are into the htc.
I'm waiting some angel here of the forum that can help, for sure a lot of londiners are facing same problem with O2 and have some solution.
the exact same settings work fine on which other phone?
Or are you saying it just doesnt work any more no matter what phone you use?
Htc Touch Pro was working but I lost the settings and with the one found in forums doesnt work the Diamond
so I need settings from somebody that setted already the Diamond that is new, and for sure are the same but I do not have it and I need to find so I can set it manually.
Have you tried these?
http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html
Both contract and paygo. Also it really would help if you gave some more information like what settings you using already.
This is my third post and i still have no idea what your exact problem is. Yeah sure you can't get GPRS working in some way, but i don't know what way, and what settings your using - and so the possible cause.
Hi there,
This topic is about my experience of configuring a-gps manually with a French operator. This may help others.
I installed a few day ago the last french official HTC ROM (see here)
My Diamond is SFR branded (French Vodafone), and after upgrading from the native SFR ROM to the HTC one, I felt a slowdown to get a good GPS signal for the apps I use: Googlemaps and iGo8. The signal also seemed less accurate.
I decided to investigate this way.
First of all, some elements that may be obvious for most of you, but reminding them does not hurt:
A-gps is a system that enhances GPS performance, by connecting to an a-gps server. As a matter of fact, this server makes use of cellular network signal to locate you faster. For further informations, see Wikipedia a-gps article.
AFAIK, a-gps is different from Quick GPS (see here) In particular, config values for a-gps and Quick GPS are located in different registry keys on Diamond.
Now let's get deeper into a-gps:
You can, once again AFAIK (and you'll correct me if I'm wrong ), use two kinds of a-gps server:
Your mobile vendor's server (i.e. HTC)
Your operator's server
I remembered that on some phones (at least Nokia N95), you have to define manually your a-gps server when using SFR network.
For Nokia, the problem is that the port used by the vendor's server is blocked by SFR WAP connection.
This is not the case of HTC a-gps server, since using HTC rom does not inhibit a-gps: it only seemed slower to me than with my SFR rom.
Here are the registry parameters for a-gps, on the original HTC ROM:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"EnableAGPS"=dword:00000001
"ServerPort"=dword:00001C6B
"ServerIP"="10.1.101.63"
"QosPerformance"=dword:00000059
"QoSAccuracy"=dword:00000032
"TimeBetweenFixes"=dword:00000001
"NumberFixes"=dword:3B9AC9FF
"GPSMode"=dword:00000002
I guess "10.1.101.63" is the IP address of an HTC's a-gps server (?!)
I then downgraded to native SFR ROM, and here was the same key:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"ServerURL"="geoloc2.sfr.fr"
"GPRSConnection"="WAP SFR GPRS"
"Network"="WAP SFR GPRS"
"EnableAGPS"=dword:00000001
"EnabledPrivacyMethod"=dword:00000000
"CloseConfirmMsgTime"=dword:0000003C
"PrivacyMethod"=dword:00000000
"EnableLocInfo"=dword:00000001
"ServerPort"=dword:00001C6B
"QosPerformance"=dword:00000059
"QoSAccuracy"=dword:00000032
"TimeBetweenFixes"=dword:00000001
"NumberFixes"=dword:3B9AC9FF
"GPSMode"=dword:00000002
As you see, the server is defined with its URL, "geoloc2.sfr.fr" (known as one of SFR's a-gps servers), and some parameters are different.
Of course, you have to replace "WAP SFR GPRS" by the network connection you want to use.
I upgraded to HTC ROM again, and set the operator's rom values.
Now I've got the feeling that it's harder, better, faster, stronger (and more accurate).
By the way, QuickGPS is configured in the following key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS].
Note that, on SFR branded rom, this key does not even exist.
Hope this helps.
I've wondered why Quick GPS seems to replace the A-GPS feature on the diamond. QuickGPS doesn't seem to do a damn thing for me. From cold boot, I can stand in open air for 5 minutes until I even start to get a peek at a couple of satellites. How can we be sure that QuickGPS is even working at all?
I used to own a Nokia N95 that had the A-GPS feature, the GPS inside the N95 was pretty average. But with the A-GPS feature you could at least get a lock in under 10 seconds, every time. As long as you had configured your positioning server, (supl.nokia.com) and you had a data connection, then it was consistently under 10 seconds from cold boot. Without A-GPS it was more like 5 minutes plus, basically what I'm seeing on the diamond.
As people have noticed, using tools like Advanced Config to enable A-GPS breaks the GPS completely. Probably because of the missing settings such as you have outlined above, (I noticed these settings while poking around in the registry recently too). I wonder how we can find out what the server names for other countries are and get this working for eveyone.
Also, the IP address 10.1.101.63 is a private IP address so I guess that explains why it fails when you switch AGPS on, that address will never be contactable, so they must have used it for some kind of internal testing - but if it's working for you (with your new settings) then why did HTC choose to leave it broken for the other ROMS....
Well... Since I updated to this last HTC rom, QuickGPS "does work". I mean, it is an installed program, therefore available in "programs" list, and when I launch it, I can "download" data to update it. Though I don't have a cue of what use is made of this technology on Diamond.
I've always used Advanced Config to enable A-GPS, and it has always worked for me. But if it breaks the GPS, I guess you can do it from the registry by setting "EnableAGPS" value to 1.
I also tested a N95 8Go recently, and I had the same results.
But I'm not sure to understand your need: Diamond has both A-GPS and QuickGPS. I don't think QuickGPS is very efficient, but A-GPS is.
I do also think that setting the "ServerIP" value to "10.1.101.63" must work worldwide, since I bet this is HTC's a-gps server.
With this, GPS signal takes about 30 seconds to lock (at first use after soft-reseting, but may be under 10 seconds for next uses).
Did you give it a try?
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Well... Since I updated to this last HTC rom, QuickGPS "does work". I mean, it is an installed program, therefore available in "programs" list, and when I launch it, I can "download" data to update it. Though I don't have a cue of what use is made of this technology on Diamond.
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Yes I have i too, and it connects and downloads data ok. But does it speed up a GPS lock? I don't think it does. I've hard reset and just run TomTom without QuickGPS and then with QuickGPS and I cannot for the life if me see any difference at all. In TomTom Satellite screen, you can see no data. If it was working, you should see all Satellite 'numbers' in their respective little boxes and then the tracking would begin almost immediately. But I'm not seeing this.
I've always used Advanced Config to enable A-GPS, and it has always worked for me. But if it breaks the GPS, I guess you can do it from the registry by setting "EnableAGPS" value to 1.
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Many people have said that enabling A-GPS (via advanced config or direct reg edit) makes the GPS stop working completely i.e. never getting a lock. If you have got this working for you, as far as I know, you're one of the first! Lucky you!
But I'm not sure to understand your need: Diamond has both A-GPS and QuickGPS. I don't think QuickGPS is very efficient, but A-GPS is.
I do also think that setting the "ServerIP" value to "10.1.101.63" must work worldwide, since I bet this is HTC's a-gps server.
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No that IP address is within a private non-routable range for internal private networks and cannot be reached from the internet. Read this if you want more info.
I do agree though on the A-GPS being better, and with my experience with Nokia phones A-GPS is excellent. I don't understand what it is that QuickGPS is trying to do, because there is nothing quick about it. I thought it would be similar to A-GPS (in how it actually works) but now I'm confused :/
With this, GPS signal takes about 30 seconds to lock (at first use after soft-reseting, but may be under 10 seconds for next uses).
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Now that's the sort of time we all should expect when using an assisted/quick GPS aid to the actual GPS chip. It should be lightning fast. So to me it says QuickGPS is pretty lame, as everyone is using it by default in all ROMS and there are many many people complaining about the GPS not getting a lock at all. So it can't possibly be working properly. And if it is, it still sux.
I'm going to try and replicate those settings you have above on my Diamond and see how it goes. I'll post back shortly.
OK well I've put all those settings in, but still no luck. It is not working. I've been waiting several minutes and still cant even get a fix.
It's not out of the realms of possibility that SFR's A-GPS server can only be used by SFR customers. After all, they assign you your IP address when you connect to the web on your diamond so they could easily lock it down so that random people cannot use it. In fact that would make a lot of sense.
I think we're close, but I guess we need to find a SUPL A-GPS server that is open to the public, maybe? Or certainly at least find out if HTC has one that we can use that is accessible via the internet... Maybe someone else has some ideas?
you can try: "supl.nokia.com" instead of "geoloc2.sfr.fr"
Have you tried this, and what port does it use?
I'd been playing some more and found out having it enabled really screws things up - TomTom thinks it has a lock, then it doesn't, then it does, then it doesn't, etc. It's really bugging out. So I just switched it off.
I'm really interested to know though if A-GPS will help with the ongoing GPS-Lag/inaccuracies problem, some poeple have reported that the lag is fixed in the new OS builds floating around but I can confirm that it is not fixed - in fact it felt like it was worse!
This GPS is causing too many headaches!!!
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Have you tried this, and what port does it use?
I'd been playing some more and found out having it enabled really screws things up - TomTom thinks it has a lock, then it doesn't, then it does, then it doesn't, etc. It's really bugging out. So I just switched it off.
I'm really interested to know though if A-GPS will help with the ongoing GPS-Lag/inaccuracies problem, some poeple have reported that the lag is fixed in the new OS builds floating around but I can confirm that it is not fixed - in fact it felt like it was worse!
This GPS is causing too many headaches!!!
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I'm also in Australia and i'm having the exact issues as you in regards to GPS lag and inaccuracies, i do however get a fix quite quickly, first time after a ROM change it takes a while but after that its somewhere between 30 sec and 1 min 30. I have changed my rom many times updating to all the latest custom ROM's, still its inaccuracy remains, its about 40 metres off on my device. I live inhouse number 16 and yet it tells me I'm at house 20. Like WTF........
What a pain in the arse!!!!
I got ip adress of HTC aGPS server!
its the 64.14.59.165
you got to just change the htc stock server of the diamond to this and its working well for me.
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I'm also in Australia and i'm having the exact issues as you in regards to GPS lag and inaccuracies, i do however get a fix quite quickly, first time after a ROM change it takes a while but after that its somewhere between 30 sec and 1 min 30. I have changed my rom many times updating to all the latest custom ROM's, still its inaccuracy remains, its about 40 metres off on my device. I live inhouse number 16 and yet it tells me I'm at house 20. Like WTF........
What a pain in the arse!!!!
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Tell me about it. Mine is about 50m off 90% of the time, sometimes it looks like it might be ok. The other thing I noticed today is that the 'speedo' in TomTom i.e. the bit on the status bar that tells you how fast you're going - which is usually very accurate - still tells me I'm going 15km/h, then slowly counts down to zero anything up to 20 seconds after reaching a complete stop! I am starting to regret spending money on TomTom. But to quantify that, I don't blame THEM, I'm just pissed I've shelled out so much for the Diamond + TomTom and the fkng things dont work properly. We have to get to the bottom of this!
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Tell me about it. Mine is about 50m off 90% of the time, sometimes it looks like it might be ok. The other thing I noticed today is that the 'speedo' in TomTom i.e. the bit on the status bar that tells you how fast you're going - which is usually very accurate - still tells me I'm going 15km/h, then slowly counts down to zero anything up to 20 seconds after reaching a complete stop! I am starting to regret spending money on TomTom. But to quantify that, I don't blame THEM, I'm just pissed I've shelled out so much for the Diamond + TomTom and the fkng things dont work properly. We have to get to the bottom of this!
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Yep, its all the same issues I'm having, but not just with tomtom, I'm using iGo8 and garmin XT with no success.
This was written by me on another thread complaining about the GPS.
I called HTC support Australia and informed them off its fault with GPS lag and its accuracy, I informed them that over 50% of users are having this issue on the XDA forum, they told me that no fault has been logged and there isn't an issue, It may be time to call up the tech support and make some noise to get this issue resolved. its a pain in the arse and it shouldn't be happening.
I also called up Hong Kong Customer support the other day and they said the exact same thing...... i think.... the chicks English was just deplorable.
I think i may call the Australian HTC support again, and just irritate the **** out of them, hopefully this time they may have a solution for me.
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I think i may call the Australian HTC support again, and just irritate the **** out of them, hopefully this time they may have a solution for me.
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I hope you can get somewhere mate! Good luck!
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its the 64.14.59.165
you got to just change the htc stock server of the diamond to this and its working well for me.
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anyone tried if this really works?
Is IgO 8 working with A-GPS enabled?
Thanks
Update/Refresh of GPS data
Maybe a stupid question, but how can I update the a-GPS data or does the device update the data automatically?
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lit2fly said:
anyone tried if this really works?
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Well, it does seem to be some kind of Navigation related server - I am trying now...
Well, it doesn't seem to have made a difference - but I will test some more...
lowrider - where did you find that IP?
What is the data amount when using AGPS ?
Are some data only transferred when opening TomTom ?
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What is the data amount when using AGPS ?
Are some data only transferred when opening TomTom ?
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It should be only a few KB send, and then a little more KB received.
It should only happen when the GPS is activated (e.g. you start TomTom) and then the A-GPS would kick in then. It should not transfer any more data unless you lost the GPS signal, then it would assist the GPS in getting a lock again, and therefore transfer another few KB.
Hi all,
completely new to the ofrum although i've visited a few threads in the past.
I'm now in need of help so am appealing to the knowledgeable demi-gods on here for help.
I've had a TD since July 2008 (launch day in UK) on vodafone UK.
After having some issues with it being slow/sluggish etc, I did a rom update to 1.93.161.2 WWE (Aug 08).
Now, the vodafone sat nav hasn't worked properly since about May this year (don't use it very often), its always stuck at "acquiring satellites". So after speaking to VF they advise me to flash the newer rom 1.96 (iirc).
But, i've spoken to a few people who recommend going an alternative route, i.e. back to HTC 2.03 rom?
Basically what i want from my TD apart from the usual phone/sms funtions is:
pop3 mail setup (like i have now)
exchange sync'ing (like i have now)
sat nav (like i have now)
Before wiping i need to take my contacts off the phone, copying to the sim isn't an option as there are too many and it trunkates the names.
I've been advised about THIS for taking contacts off (activesync doesn't seem to want to do it).
I've also been told that using HTC rom will render my vodafone satnav (which is free with my tarrif) useless, but that igo8 and tomtom are better. But are they free?
I'd really appreciate a gentle approach to doing this please. I've done a search but there's so many topics on roms etc that i felt it needed a new thread.
I'm actually an I.T. manage by day, so i'm not new to technology.....just flashing mobiles i guess.
Thanks for any help offered. You WILL have a place reserved in paradise.
Before you do anything i suggest you try the htc gps tool, you can use it to erase old gps data maybe you will get a fix then, also try quick gps if you dont have it, it uses gprs/3g to download that latest sat data so its easyer to get a sat lock quicker
Thanks for the reply mancsoulja. My TD does have quickgps installed, but it makes no difference to helping get the satnav working sadly.
I will however try the other app to clear the data and give it another go, thanks.
Will let you know about that.
Actually, what i forgot to mention in my op is that if i get a sms during the day; i click on it, read it, then try and hit 'men > reply' it can take well over a minute to actually respond. The same happens when i want to make a call. I use the TouchFlow to browse to my favourite contacts, but trying to scroll down the list of only 10 contacts it simply does nothing. Then about a minute or so later it catches up with itself and goes all over the place trying to catch up with every key press since.
This was the original reason i had for upgrading the rom.
Its as if waking it up after doing nothing for ages makes it all sluggish (bit like a pc when waking from hibernate i guess) Its very laggy.
Ok, the htc gps tool? Lol i have nooooo idea what i'm supposed to do with that.
Google maps works fine, in that it knows my location and i can plan a route using it, so GPS is working. Its just that vf satnav won't work.
Any ideas on this please?