I may have asked about this in another thread, but I'm not sure, and the thread may have died.
I have the T-Mobile (USA) MDA, still with the original (1.8.10.2?) ROM, bought in March, have not done a ROM upgrade on it before.
Now, since I hear 2.26 is much better, I'm thinking of upgrading. Probably to the new official 2.26 ROM, but also considering Xelencin's final version.
I have spent many hours installing programs and tweaking settings, however, and I am not eager to start that all over from scratch. I don't remember everything I did before, so I might have difficulty getting back all the same settings.
I have SPB Backup, and at first thought I could do a backup before the ROM upgrade, and restore it after the upgrade. However, although I have read a few posts on this board and others from people who said they have done that successfully, the prevalent opinion seems to be that one shouldn't do this, that one could end up with a non-functional unit.
I have heard, however, that the new version of Sprite Backup (5.1) has a feature called something like "Device Upgrade Mode", and with that mode one can successfully backup the unit, do a ROM upgrade, and restore the backup, with the original apps and settings intact.
Normally I would not consider paying $30 for Sprite Backup, when I already have SPB Backup, which in general I'm quite satisfied with. However, if this upgrade mode really works well, and one can restore after the ROM upgrade with most of one's apps and settings intact, it would probably be worth the $30 to save the hours of work that would be involved in reconfiguring my MDA.
Has anyone here tried the Sprite Backup 5.1 "device upgrade" mode, in conjunction with any ROM upgrade of a PPC? Has anyone used it with this particular ROM upgrade? IF so, please report on how well that worked. Thank you.
No one reading has tried the Sprite Backup 5.1 "Device Upgrade Mode", in conjunction with the ROM upgrade?
Did this today!
My boyfriend upgraded to the new Sprite 5.1, did a full back up, flashed to the new T-Mobile ROM, and then restored to the back up from the original ROM with virtually no problems at all. The only minor hang up that he had was a conflict with Resco File Explorer and SPB Pocket Plus. He had links displayed on his today screen with SPB Pocket Plus that opened Resco File Explorer folders. With this setup the MDA would boot, but then hang as it attempted to load the today screen. Once the today screen shortcuts were disabled it worked great. I would recommend turning off the SPB today screen shortcuts before doing the back up in Sprite 5.1. Then, after the restore, re-enable.
He's Extremely happy with how it worked out!
I also have the MDA and recently flashed to the new ROM, however I didn't do as much research as he did and I reinstalled everything. I went through a lot more work than he did, but am equally as happy with the new ROM.
The one thing I would like to find a hack/fix for is the Wi-Fi being disabled at startup. I posted a topic awhile back asking the same question with absolutely no responses! Does anyone know if there is a way to make it "allways on" or automatically enable at startup/boot? Thanks!
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I've searched in the forum for my problem and i came up empty.
Anyhow, i just got my Kaiser last monday and ive been reading up on all the tweaks and what not. My phone came with sprite backup and i've been doing some regular schedule back up.
Today i decided to do a hard reset and learn how to do a restore from a card. I was successful, but there was a snag. I noticed that i have 2 programs of Video and pictures and Audio manager.
I tried deleting it under Remove programs but i figured this is from the ROM. Is there anyway i can get rid of the 2 excess programs? Or is this just 2 shortcuts?
If its the latter, how do i get rid of it?
thanks in advance
It's just two shortcuts. File Explorer to Windows-Start Menu-Programs and blow one away from there or the sub-folders.
Figured it out. Thanks.
I had the same problem, but my device is only thwo weeks so I decided to do a hard reset and to put everything again.
What is this problem, because I saw that there was also problems to change the items in the start menu.
This is a problem of backup or restoring and what can I do to not have this.
Sprite Backup ver 5 didn't do as well with restoring start menu items. Also, ver 5 was never fully WM6-compliant. Sprite Backup 6.x is the first WM6 compatible. Ver 5 works but it has some funny things left over after the restore. I also had issues with dup email and contacts with ver5. Using ver6 takes care of it.
And no, you can't get 6 for free. You have to buy the full version. One note, if you have purchased ver6 for smartphone, the license keys and the installer is the same for both SP and PPC, so you don't really have to buy again. I was lucky, I had bought sprite backup 6.1 for my blackjack, and sure enough I can use the same key on my Tilt.
Well, I thought I'd done everything right here. Obviously not.
I have a HTC TyTn II which I downloaded the 6.1 ROM for from the site. Prior ro upgrading I did a back up using Sprite. I have the back ups on noth PC and Storage card.
After I did the upgrade I restored using Sprite back up and got a message saying the back up was made on a different system and could cause problems. I went ahead and really messed up. The device locked at the boot stage after the restore but luckily binned all its data and started again but was wiped.
While I could enter all the info/settings again it willl be a pain and I am wondering if there is a way to now restore from the back up (which i only did earlier using the same Sprite and everything)?? I have looked all over the place for some answers but seem to be getting more confused???
Also my sprite was on the HTC disc and is WM 2005 version. Shouls I get/be using 6.2.2????
A search found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=14582521
I tried the same with Sprite ROM upgrade option (full version) but I had to reinstall my apps manually.
Hope it helps and good luck.
Believe me I did loads of searches :-( That link doesn't go to a post? I'm 90% certain that I should have gone through a process of getting an upgrade file made BEFORE I did the ROM upgrade. Case of RTFM!!! God knows why I didn't RTFM in this case!! So engrossed on installing this, creating that etc I just asssumed that, having a back up on Sprite, I could just Restore after a ROM upgrade. WRONG!!!!!
No major problems as all the Outlook stuff will synch from there and luckily I did back ups of all my data in SPB Wallet, Phat Notes and List Pro. Just a bit of a pain wityh going through all the settings etc again with e-mail, Bluetooth, wifi and preferences. Still, at least it'll be a clean system (ish).
I'm still pondering if it's worth upgrading to Sprite 6.2.2 instead of the freebie WM 2005 version that came with the HTC.
I would recommend upgrading, had nothing but problems with the free one.
There have been several threads started in response to the same problem, and the end is always the same: your Kaiser needs to be sent in for a motherboard fix.
However, first try this:
If you are using a stock ROM, back up all your stuff; if it is a cooked ROM, I don't know if what you back up will interfere with the process (I had a stock ROM with bloatware install interrupted, the fix uses a base AT&T ROM with just about everything removed, so the basic architecture is the same)
Flash with HardSPL 3.29
Flash with bengalih RAW ROM at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429117
Go through the setup and UC, once the phone completely reboots do a hard reset (meaning of course that you go through setup and UC a second time)
Flash with radio 1.71.09.01
Restore your data with the backup
How I arrived at this:
My Tilt's 3g connection started spending most of its time disconnected - would come on for a moment, then disappear. Soft-resets, hard-resets, and re-flashing the stock ROM didn't solve it. I used several different cooked ROMs with different radios (inclding the aforementioned one in the "fix") to no avail. While I was able to use the phone on EDGE, 3G was just not playing nice.
I decided that the Manilla ROMs were a little too slow (and I had personal issues with the way certain things worked, even though I like the interface overall), and wanted to go back to basics until the Fuze (Touch Pro) came out and I could dump the Tilt. I flashed the bengalih ROM, which is a stripped-down AT&T ROM with Sashimi added, did a hard-reset, and noticed for the first time in a week that my H icon stayed an H icon, and I was able to make calls and do all the fun things that (a) the phone is supposed to do and (b) I had heretofore been unable to do since the problem started.
Now, am I saying this WILL ABSOLUTELY work? Hell no. All I know is that, in a week of flashing ROMS, radios, and SPLs, this is the ONLY thing that has worked. And I came across it by a fluke - I had already assumed I was suffering from the dead 3G that others have bemoaned, and my Tilt is not under warranty, so sending it in was not an option. The only downside is that Sashimi, which is cooked into the bengalih ROM, vanishes after your restore. So go download the CAB of Sashimi 7.5. Other than that I have yet to notice any unfortunate side effects.
If it works, great. If it doesn't, try it again. If it still doesn't work... get redy to head to the post office.
I've had my Tilt running pretty smoothly on the stock firmware since I bought it over the summer (camera stopped working, but that's a different story). Anyway, I did a backup this morning (SPB Backup), and after the reboot I couldn't get a voice signal. If I pushed the phone button, nothing would happen! Now here's the weird thing: I'm able to get a data connection (was able to get new email), but the phone icon still says no service. Has anybody experienced this before, or know of any fixes? I've soft-booted a few times, but didn't want to hard boot if there was a simpler way.
And yes I did search this entire forum for similar posts, but didn't find any.
Thanks in advance!
have you tried a different SIM from a different operator?
you might want to try a different SIM from a different operator just to be sure your SIM and/or operator is not the problem.
if it works with another SIM, you can be fairly certain that it is NOT a hardware issue...in which case, a hard reset will more than likely resolve your problem.
also, are you able to receive incoming calls? what kind of a message does the caller get in case your phone doesn't even wake up and ring? finally, have you tested sms text messaging? try sending a message to someone and also try to receive an sms text message from someone...these little steps will help you confirm whether or not you are experiencing a hardware issue...in which case you might want to consider having it checked/fixed under warranty.
keep searching...cheers !!!
Happened to me once. I tried everything, but didn't work. If it's under warranty, AT&T will replace it. I went through 3 units in the 11 months I owned tilt.
hmmm have you tried flashing another Radio? (don't know what happened to your camera, but if you've got cam & phone issues, it's worth checking the Radio...
It's happened to me twicw also. This is an SPB Backup quirk. I'm afraid a hard reset is all that's left to do.
Well,
first of check if you're connecting to the correct network AT&T and not accidently logged on to the T-Mobile network - perform a manual network search / selection on your device.
If the above step does not help, try to restore your device with the SPB Backup you made. If that also does not work, well, then ... yeah ... hard reset! I would not really consider a RADIO FLASH on your device since it semmed to be working fine for you before that?
Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I tried doing a full restore of the latest backup (that morning), and that seemed to bring back the phone functionality. However, the restore also eliminated a few of my main programs, which was very weird! So, I did a full restore from the previous backup and tested that one out. Everything was like it should be. Then I did a restore of the latest backup's tasks/appointments (only things that changed), and now I'm back to full operation
As a side question, since I'm running WM 6.0 and want to flash to 6.1, would I be able to do a full restore from SPB Backup... or would that be incompatible with the upgraded OS?
You won't be able to perform a FULL RESTORE. There are a couple of changes in WM6.1, so, just to be on the save side I would suggest that you back up your PIM data, then flash to 6.1, restore your PIM data and reinstall all of your application.
BTW:
I was running WM6.1 on my MWg Zinc II and couldn't find any real advantages other than THREADED SMS. The Pocket IE gets a whole bunch of new bugs (for example Frames in websites are not shown or not shown correctly) and experienced a couple of incompatibilities with 3rd-party software application. If you still want to take a chance, good luck! However, I do not believe that you can go back to WM6.0 once you flash to 6.1!
I wouldn't upgrade to 6.1 if you're running SPB software. I was running 6.1 without problems, then loaded SPB Phone Suite, Diary, and Pocket Plus, and suddenly Garmin XT couldn't locate satellites at all. It took several hard and soft resets, and a visit to the SPB forums to realize that 6.1 could be the culprit, and it was. All problems disappeared with 6.0. There was a post at the SPB forums that *seemed* to indicate that SPB apps hadn't been fully tested--they may have used the word "certified"--with 6.1. Good luck.
No, that's not it -- I'm running the latest versions of all of those SPB titles on a stock 6.1 with no problems.
i have no spb apps on this one and i have the problem...it just can't fix the network
it happened few days ago to a guy that isn't quite familiar with ppcs he somehow turned it off and when he turned it on he couldn't get the network...eventually he hooked up after half a day (i'm not sure for how long did this problem last because i don't know does he use soft reset and flight mode)...so i took the kaiser to test it and to see what happened..i messed with flight mode and SR it couldn't find the net at all
tried wm6 and two wm6 radios
tried wm6.1 and two wm6.1 radios
i'll try android...just to test the module itself..if there are any hardware issues
Hi all,
Sorry if this is a report. I've had my At&t tilt for 10 months now on the original wm6.0 rom. Lately it's been slow and thought about upgrading to wm6.1 and start from scratch. I read the rom development threads but the steps involve with flashing a rom seems so complicated that I am afraid it'll just kill my phone. I don't really need any fancy rom/radio etc. Just wanted the new features on wm6.1. I went through the At&t site for the ROM upgrade and got this link.
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
Can I just follow this, upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1 and then restore settings from Sprite Backup?
Thanks...
mikeee2 said:
Hi all,
Sorry if this is a report. I've had my At&t tilt for 10 months now on the original wm6.0 rom. Lately it's been slow and thought about upgrading to wm6.1 and start from scratch. I read the rom development threads but the steps involve with flashing a rom seems so complicated that I am afraid it'll just kill my phone. I don't really need any fancy rom/radio etc. Just wanted the new features on wm6.1. I went through the At&t site for the ROM upgrade and got this link.
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
Can I just follow this, upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1 and then restore settings from Sprite Backup?
Thanks...
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That is the latest Tilt 6.1 upgrade. Just follow the instructions and you will be all set.
If you do want a speedy full featured phone that you will love. mskip has made flashing as easy as upgrading a stock rom. Check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Then check out these roms, all great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492866
The settings you back up with Sprite back up will not be compatible with WM 6.1
I would use PIM Backup 2.8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705&highlight=PIM+Back
It's not recomended that you pull a backup on a new OS from an older one (even though some backup programs have this feature). Installing hardspl isn't as complicated as it seems; read the instructions above in the first link several times until you feel that you have a good grasp of what you're doing. If you're stuck at a place, feel free to PM me or post is mskip's thread.
denco7 said:
That is the latest Tilt 6.1 upgrade. Just follow the instructions and you will be all set.
If you do want a speedy full featured phone that you will love. mskip has made flashing as easy as upgrading a stock rom. Check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Then check out these roms, all great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492866
The settings you back up with Sprite back up will not be compatible with WM 6.1
I would use PIM Backup 2.8
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Thanks. Will the 6.1 speed up my phone? I read the first few pages of mskip's flashing rom and it just look "scary". Reading how some people flash it and the phone doesn't work anymore. I've been reluctant to upgrade because everything works now but if wm6.1 has new feature and speeds it up, I figure I can give it a shot. So PIM Backup will restore all my settings and all I have to do is install the 3rd party softwares?
mikeee2 said:
Thanks. Will the 6.1 speed up my phone? I read the first few pages of mskip's flashing rom and it just look "scary". Reading how some people flash it and the phone doesn't work anymore. I've been reluctant to upgrade because everything works now but if wm6.1 has new feature and speeds it up, I figure I can give it a shot. So PIM Backup will restore all my settings and all I have to do is install the 3rd party softwares?
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No, PIM Backup will only backup your PIM information as mentioned by the program's name. You'll need SPB or Sprite Backup to backup the whole device (which again, is not recommended).
You won't realize a big difference from going to stock 6.0 to stock 6.1, however you will see one from stock 6.0 to custom 6.1
kareem9nba said:
No, PIM Backup will only backup your PIM information as mentioned by the program's name. You'll need SPB or Sprite Backup to backup the whole device (which again, is not recommended).
You won't realize a big difference from going to stock 6.0 to stock 6.1, however you will see one from stock 6.0 to custom 6.1
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Hmmm...if it's not a big difference then maybe I should wait for wm6.5 or wm7.
What about a hard reset?
mikeee2 said:
Hmmm...if it's not a big difference then maybe I should wait for wm6.5 or wm7.
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If you were happy with it when you got it new, then just back up your important data and hard reset it. That will take it back to an as new configuration (with speed to match). I've tried the HTC official Windows Mobile 6.1 'upgrade' for the TyTN II (the HTC branded version of the Tilt) and it was so full of bugs and problems that it's now back running the original WM 6.0 version again. If you rely at all on the GPS functionality of your device, WM 6.0 will likely perform far better (at least it does with mine). Hard reset and see how much it speeds up again. If you need to know how to hard reset it, that's covered in your users manual (at least it is with the TyTN II or here on xdas wiki).
Remember the old adage, if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it
Flying Kiwi said:
If you were happy with it when you got it new, then just back up your important data and hard reset it. That will take it back to an as new configuration (with speed to match). I've tried the HTC official Windows Mobile 6.1 'upgrade' for the TyTN II (the HTC branded version of the Tilt) and it was so full of bugs and problems that it's now back running the original WM 6.0 version again. If you rely at all on the GPS functionality of your device, WM 6.0 will likely perform far better (at least it does with mine). Hard reset and see how much it speeds up again. If you need to know how to hard reset it, that's covered in your users manual (at least it is with the TyTN II or here on xdas wiki).
Remember the old adage, if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it
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I agree with the "ain't broke, don't fix it", thus I still have wm6.0. Yes, I use GPS all the time. I also have a lot of 3rd party software that are all customized so I hate having to configure it again. Does hard reset wipe everything?
All the add-ons are likely the cause of the slowdown - are they all NEEDED?
mikeee2 said:
I agree with the "ain't broke, don't fix it", thus I still have wm6.0. Yes, I use GPS all the time. I also have a lot of 3rd party software that are all customized so I hate having to configure it again. Does hard reset wipe everything?
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Yes it puts it back to exactly like new (except for the total call timers which aren't reset). This is all explained in the wiki (click the link in the brown bar on this website). Whatever you do, if you want all the extra apps you've loaded (probably the cause of the slowdown), you'll still have to reinstall them all anyway so have your install files/media ready.
Although you can make backups of your data, it's always preferable to have your system as lightly loaded for maximum speed so think about whether you really need and use each app before loading it on. If you rely on GPS alot and want to keep an original configuration, if the AT&T setup is anything like the HTC original setup, you're better off with WM 6.0. Test the speed after the hard reset then install each app and test for a day - one at a time, noting down the significant times you'd noticed slowness with under your current setup. This should help to weed out the culprits that hog the most resources.
mikeee2 said:
I agree with the "ain't broke, don't fix it", thus I still have wm6.0. Yes, I use GPS all the time. I also have a lot of 3rd party software that are all customized so I hate having to configure it again. Does hard reset wipe everything?
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Yes, it makes the phone back to " out of the box " settings. You will have to reinstall all your apps. But if you don't up to 6.1 you will be able to use sprite back up, and is it worth it to make your phone zippier ?
Honestly man,
Flash your tilt to the 6.1 stock rom. If it has any issues call customer service and complain until they tell you to go to the warranty depot/send a replacement.
I flashed the official stock rom onto my Tilt when I got it. The battery was always WRONG. It always told me 3 bars unless it was <30%. Also I developed issues with battery life and keeping Time. After some prodding they replaced my phone. My new Tilt is soo awesome, Battery life is on 3 days now with lite-moderate use (turned off 3g), battery is accurate.
himalayasplaya said:
Honestly man,
Flash your tilt to the 6.1 stock rom. If it has any issues call customer service and complain until they tell you to go to the warranty depot/send a replacement.
I flashed the official stock rom onto my Tilt when I got it. The battery was always WRONG. It always told me 3 bars unless it was <30%. Also I developed issues with battery life and keeping Time. After some prodding they replaced my phone. My new Tilt is soo awesome, Battery life is on 3 days now with lite-moderate use (turned off 3g), battery is accurate.
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There's a recommendation for you. Upgrade to 6.1 so that it can crap your phone out. And then you can go through all the hassle of dealing with AT$T warranty and maybe eventually you can get a new ( refurb ) phone out of it.
I'd do it
LOL little did I know I was experiencing issues from a bad flash. I thought wm 6.1 was sucky by default. Not to mention I had dinged up my phone and gotten a nasty screen scratch and one on the front of the phone. All the more incentive to use that warranty. The AT&T warranty is awesome!
Were Tilt's shipping with 6.1 before being replaced by the Fuze, or did you have to update after you bought it? A buddy just bought one and he's a total noob, when it comes to WM. I asked him if it has 6.1 and he doesn't know. I haven't got to play with the phone myself. It is supposedly about 4-5 months old.
Thanks in advance.
Michael95GT said:
Were Tilt's shipping with 6.1 before being replaced by the Fuze, or did you have to update after you bought it? A buddy just bought one and he's a total noob, when it comes to WM. I asked him if it has 6.1 and he doesn't know. I haven't got to play with the phone myself. It is supposedly about 4-5 months old.
Thanks in advance.
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I believe AT$T released 6.1 for the Tilt in August. If he wants to check, just go to Start>settings>system>about and that will tell him which version he has.