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Sorry for asking such fundamental questions but i am new to this site...
I have a Orange SPV M2000 (Blue Angel)
Can I ugrade the rom on this, what will the upgraded rom give me that i dont already have and how do i do this ?
I have looked at the rom pages and can not seam to find an Orange rom, does this matter ?
Sorry if these are basic questions, thank you for your time.
I also have a m2000, was wondering if it would be ok to install the new 1.4 asia O2 rom???
Mainly want it for WMP10 due to the streaming video etc.
Have red some mixed reports about the new rom, is it actually better than 1.31???
ive upgraded my m2000 using the wiki
im basically running the imate roms as im unsure on how to play with the extended rom.
everything went fine without a hitch!
I have an orange SPV M2000, I have successfully upgraded to Rom 1.40 with Radio Rom 1.13
I am a bit of an old hand doing this as i have had a pocket pc since the inception of a ipaq 3630 many moons ago.
What you ask do you get with the updates? well the main reason for upgrading is the increased reliability. far less soft reboots due to lockups.
and a nicer interface with WM10 especially since i have a media center PC and i can automatically synch my recorded TV to the device
anyone needs help with upgrade you can msn me at stuart b ***NOSPAM***@broadbandtap.co.uk
I can't download MaUpgradeUt_noID.ZIP ?????
HELP?
I upgraded my device to 1.42 eng. but after finished, extended rom files are not installing, device is stopping . Then when i try to install them manuel not working can somene help me
I tested the 1.42 NL version and it worked pretty much ok. Try maybe to upgrade again. I have the Pda2k and I am back to the I-mate 1.40 firmware. I think something went wrong when you updated. Just do it again - it should work.
Posting from the PDA2K.
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why did you go back to 1.40 from 1.42?
obiesoft:
I didn't like the T-mobile ExtRom and I didn't know how to write to it at the moment.
Also, I thought that the phone app is a bit slow (and I hated the flat skin).
Meanwhile, I got the xdatools and I edited the extrom.
The I-Mate extrom has the autosetup, no config.txt needed. It works pretty well with the 1.13 radio.
Though, I have some problems with the BT and a Motorola HS805 headset. It's crackling all the time. But I think that there's no solution for this problem.
RELOAD, have you flashed again? Did you solve the problem?
1.42
I apologize for not replying earlier. I switched from WM5 to the 1.42 Rom and i like it so far. It is so much faster and responsive compared to WM5, keyboard works well and bluetooth is ok. I also get the Crackling noise, i use HBH 300. I have been seeing threads about an I mate Bluetooth fix but all the links to it are broken, so i guess that is what we need now. Until i test it, i will not know. I understand what you mean by the flat look, WM5 looks better but it is not as good as WM2003 for regular use, as for looks, just switch up themse.
obiesoft
I'm sorry for the delayed answer, but I'm not always on the forums...
I only heard about an I-mate patch, but if you mean this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14277, it's old (2004) and I've seen only a few people asking for the files.
I am now running the i-mate last rom with 1.13 radio and BT 3900. The extended rom contains a cab called BTsearchTime.sa.cab.
I'm not sure about it does, but I'm sure that it's already posted on the forums or on the ftp .
About WM5, I read many threads where people complaint about the speed. I decided not to try it, instead I set my HKLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS\Cachesize to 4096, and I installed all the programs in the storage card (1 GB).
The performance was really boosted, at the expense of 4 MB of memory, but I have plenty of it, because I don't have to share too much with the storage.
I also use SPBPocketPlus 3, but just for the Closing App, Safe Mode, and rotation shortcuts. Otherwise, SPB Plus makes the PDA unusable - it consumes many resources. Pocket Hack master provides me the overclok/underclok possibilities, so, if I use the BA only as a phone, I keep it at 199 MHz.
Moderator: I'm not sure if this fits here, but... please don't kill me!
i have read the postings on the upgrade of WM5 on the Blue Angel device..
what i would like to know is what will WM5 do for me that WM 2003SE won't... are there any real benefits.. and do all the functions still work... wifi, gprs, phone etc..
i'm using the 1.40 ROM and don't really have that many problems..
every now and then the device resets by itself.. if i open the inbox, or change the phone on/off... otherwise it seems to run great.
is there any speed increase in using WM5 ??
any benefits in wifi or GPRS and emails ??
thanks..
hi
I had the opportunity to test WM5 in my himalaya device...
It wont be so different than yours but here is my 2 cents:
-Slower than WM2003SE
like 80% of WM2003 speed
-sometimes the cellphone rings once but for the other party is the 3rd or 4th ring.
-Lot of software bugs and incompatibilities.
bugs with camera and MMS
Camera= worse than the WM2003 one
MMS= I can send but when I receive, the page is blank (no objects, sounds, pics)
I just return to WM2003SE
Yes, is ugly than WM5 but is better, bug-less
hope this helps you.
Anyway, you can try WM5 and If you dont like it, go back to WM2003SE again, well at least work for me that way.
Same 2 Me...
I just get back to 2003SE...
But I miss the look of WM5
I'm back to 2003SE too!
The only thing i miss of WM5 is the Persistance Storage.
2003 gets my vote for now
I'm back to 2003, I ran several versions of the WM5 roms from Maimach. I can say that WM5 is fun, cool and all that but I didn't see any reason to stay with it. The persistent storage thing can be solved for me by backing up my contacts and appointments to a SD card along with the main apps I use on a daily basis on my SD card. Then when I lose power, I just reload the backup of my contacts database, re-load the apps from my SD card and I'm back up and running in just a few minutes. The speed and reliability were the two main reasons I came back. I ran WM5 for at least 6 weeks so I know I gave it a fair shot. I've found that I only use my phone for a few things:
1. Email
2. Phone (duh!)
3. Mp3 player (TCPMP)
4. Limited internet (google/froogle/weather/movie times/news/etc)
5. A few games when I'm stuck in traffic. =)
None of these functions were necessarily performed better in WM5, most of them actually were quite a bit slower but I decided to live with it because I was on WM5!!!
After going back to 2003 (1.42 rom) I was SHOCKED at how much faster it was. I had gotten so used to the sluggish performance of WM5 that I had forgotten what it was like to answer the phone on the first ring, watch outlook email open immediately instead of "within a few seconds" and not have skips when I listen to mp3's. Don't get me wrong, I TRULY appreciate the work Maimach and others are doing to get wm5 on our devices but it's more of a developers toy right now than an actual OS replacement for our devices. When they get a version of WM5 that's written for the xScale processor I think we'll see a HUGE difference.
For now, I'm back to 2k3 and not dissappointed at all.
Me 2
I am also back to 2k3 three weeks ago after 1 morning running 2k5.
Re: 2003 gets my vote for now
dmelton75 said:
For now, I'm back to 2k3 and not dissappointed at all.
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Which version of ROM 2k3SE did you use...
I'm using 1.42.... Some times when someone call me, the name not show...even that number already in my phone book....
Thanks
i have used windos mobile 5 since the first version on this forum (yep with all bugs and no camera) i have tried all upgrades and versions. and i have all most satisfied with the wizard version (v2) its really more faster. but i onlgy have no problems if i dont use my BA . some times i don´t have fone, other time don´t have sms, mms. lots off crash, with gps and tomtom navigator very instability, every time i put some software in today screen, the BA crash.. etc. etc..
now i have finaly go back to 2003 (version 1.42) and use wall memory (like wb5) use the wisbar advance 2 and my Ba its great.. but i still come here to see if there is some advance in stability on the wb5 .
when the ppl off this forum "bill" a windows mobil 5 running at 95% i reflash my rom again
thanks guys for everything
I must say after months of flashing and upgrading to a zillion new WM 2005 romz, I'm so happy i went back to 2003 SE. (no disrespect to the fine work of all developers here)
I almost forgot how fast my device could be. And do we really need all the extra applications wm 2005 has to offer? Seems most people just want a fast device that lasts 2 days on battery.
The single problem 2003 has is the bluetooth issue, which still exists in some way in all WM 2005 versions. Isn't there a way to just fix the BT issue in 2003?
grtz
let just say ppl have different preference.
do u have the latest BT stack from widcomm ie ver 3900. It works OK for me(running WM2003SE)
actually no, i don't. I just have the standard rom. (140.556 i believe) Were can i get that? and can i install it separately?
nijhof said:
I must say after months of flashing and upgrading to a zillion new WM 2005 romz, I'm so happy i went back to 2003 SE. (no disrespect to the fine work of all developers here)
I almost forgot how fast my device could be. And do we really need all the extra applications wm 2005 has to offer? Seems most people just want a fast device that lasts 2 days on battery.
The single problem 2003 has is the bluetooth issue, which still exists in some way in all WM 2005 versions. Isn't there a way to just fix the BT issue in 2003?
grtz
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I would agree, I have a BA with 2003 SE, a Wizard WM5 and a Prophet WM5. The BA certainly seems to run much faster.
nijhof said:
actually no, i don't. I just have the standard rom. (140.556 i believe) Were can i get that? and can i install it separately?
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I am talking about BT stack(and not ROM version)
You may check the FTP site for it
sorry i'm kind of a newbie, but I have bluetooth version BT-PPCE/PE 1.0.0 (www.broadcom.com) Build 3900 with ROM 140.00WWE and radio 1.1300 (1.15 did not work also)
is this the widcomm you mean?
if not, i could not locate it on the ftp site.
help is much appreciated.
for me, the most important beside having this BA as a phone is handling emails (in Vietnamese, a typical non english character set). 2K3 sucks a lot in handling this, and I still don't find any application which can substitute this UTF-8 in 2K3 outlook. With 2k5, life is much easier, but sucks in another aspect: cannot handle many emails (say - I am synchronyzing at only 1 week latest emails, while with my previous 2K3, it was 1 month without any problem).
Any suggestion to handle UTF-8 in outlook under 2k3 environment will make me coming back to 2k3 IMMEDIATELY!
Thanks for reading
I would like to see this thread filled with more info and turned into a wiki page comparing BA+2003SE vs BA+WM5...
Some things I would like to have better explained:
STORAGE - I have read that 2003SE divides its ram to be used as, well, ram, and the other part to be used as storage (like a ramdisk). So the is a backup battery to keep this ram alive if the main battery gets exhausted, but if you don't recharge for an extended time this battery could die too and lead to data loss and a hard reset.
In contrast, there would be no mode 'ramdisk' in WM5. This would solve the data loss issue, and have an impact on filesystem performance which is understandable. Well, BA+2003SE has 128MB of ram dived 50-50 by default between actual ram and storage and 96 mb of persistent storage, 40something available to the user. How does it change while using BA+WM5?
BATTERY LIFE - does it improve? if we have no more ramdisk, and thus no risk of data loss, do we have backup battery + main battery juice to chug along happily with our BAs?
PERFORMANCE - Do WM5 apps perform better than 2003/SE? Do they use more or less memory? the filesystem performance drop should affect apps differently...
STABILITY - How often do we need to soft reset with WM5? On my BA+2003SE, for example, I have to soft reset before using my GPRS. it connects once, and keeps happy until I stop using the connection for some time. After that it gets lost and I have to soft reset the machine to conect to GPRS again...
Persistent Storage
The reason I use the WM5 rom is the persistent storage.
I realize that not everyone runs their phone battery down or changes the battery (and I don't do it that often) but it's a nice not to have to do a backup everyday (ok I should but why) just because my battery might run down.
Also my BA battery would come loose at times and the phone would reset. With WM5 I only have to reset the date.
That's my major reason. Persistent storage. Otherwise WM5 brings no benefits as far as I can see.
I've been trying a week of wm2003 after using ivan and tuma (1.3, 1.4) for a month or 2.
All WM5 builds gave me these problems on-and-off in everyday use :-
Slow phone app response (answering on wakeup and dialing particularly)
Laggy UI response normally, sometimes crawls along for 30-40 seconds.
WM2003 gives me these :-
Tap-screen goes dead on wake up. Powering off then on fixes this.
Quick UI response normally, sometimes crawls along for 30-40 seconds.
Audio fails totally on the phone sometimes, reboot fixes this.
Crazy battery use compared to WM5.
(I don't have a BT headset, so I'm immune to the famous problems that brings)
To be honest I find as many, if not more problems with 2003 as with the recent WM5 releases. It's a huge credit to those brave guys hacking the rom in their spare time that their ROMs are more or less as robust as the official builds.
On balance I'd have to go for WM5 for its tight Messenger/hotmail integration, more efficient battery use and the more intuitive UI, even if it does respond slower.
Right now I'm checking regularly for the release of TuMa 1.5, at that point I'll be compelled to re-upgrade to WM5.
half your problems can be silved by using radio 1.12 or 1.13, 1.15 has a never ending list of problems with WM5. Downgrade and you will be fine
I'll copy your approach and go for 1.13 then, thanks for the help.
Since the 'Report Real Problems' thread about Faria's AKU 3.2 ROM has just about stopped making any sense I thought I would start a new one specifically regarding this memory 'leak' issue.
I have a G3 QTEK 9100, I have installed Faria's 8MB AKU 3.2 ROM. I initially had the wake-up issues but I think I have worked around these. The issue I am seeing is the Program Memory gradually decreasing. After a soft-reset the phone shows about 19MB of free Program Memory. Without doing anything other than answer phone calls it will decrease to about 12MB after a day. After 2-days it goes to about 8Mb and now the 3rd day (in the morning) it tells me 7.4MB.
I am not loading any applications what so ever, just answering the phone. It is sat in a cradle connected via USB to my PC so all it is running is ActiveSync. I have two applications installed - TomTom 6 and MS PocketStreets 2006, neither of which have been started since it was soft reset 3-days ago.
Can anyone explain this memory leakage
Oh, there we go again - 7.3MB
Thanks
Andy
Hi,
I basically have the same problems as described above. Using a G3 HTC Wizard with the 12mb Rom RC1. It goes down constantly and even if I use the Free_ram application it doesnt manage to free it all again. Apart from that I am still experiencing a severe Battery drainage. I have done a few tests and I am guessing this has to do with the Radio Rom. As soon as I make a call for lets say 2 Minutes the battery droppes aprox 2%. Since I use push-email and am always online with GPRS this means a huge drainage over the day. I will run a few more tests and disable push email and try not to make any calls and see if this still occurs.
Good, sort of, at least it's not just me......
It is now 13:20 UK time and if I am to believe it, it reckons now only 5.9MB of program memory is free. It is now showing signs of slowing down, refreshing the screen is taking time, going to Start Settings and then hitting the close 'X' is now pausing
I am going to restrain myself from soft-resetting it until it comes to some sort of conculsion...........
Andy
I think I am going to have to soft reset it now, its getting just too unresponsive
Storage
Total: 47.46MB
In Use: 13.64MB
Free: 33.83MB
Program
Total: 44.01MB
In Use: 39.40MB
Free: 4.61MB
I have made 2 calls and received 2 since I last posted and I am now down to 4.6MB.
Does anyone think a re-flash or a hard-reset is likely to fix anything? As I said I only have TomTom6 and MS Pocket Streets 2006 installed in addition to the stuff included with the extended ROM from Faria?
Thanks
Andy
My wizard rebooted itself yesterday morning and so it has been running for about 36 hours. I have 12.8 Mb program memory and it rarely gets below 11Mb. When I first installed Faria's ROM I used the 12 Mb version. I thought that I might be seeing a memory leak because I did get down to as low on RAM as you are now seeing and so I installed the 8 Mb version and tracked it for a few days. It has never been as bad as what you are seeing since I installed the 8 Mb version although I don't think whether you use the 8 or 12 Mb version makes any difference. Perhaps a hard reset will help or maybe you will just end up reinstalling all your apps.
Kirby
Just a few other things:
I take 5 to 20 calls a day and run Pocketweather and might also jump out on the web using Netfront
I have just hard-reset the device and re-installed TomTom6, Pocket Streets 2006 & Voice Command 1.6. Our CA Admin guy is going to moan at me again for re-requesting a Certificate Ah well......
I'll see how this goes......
Andy
ADB100 said:
I have just hard-reset the device and re-installed TomTom6, Pocket Streets 2006 & Voice Command 1.6. Our CA Admin guy is going to moan at me again for re-requesting a Certificate Ah well......
I'll see how this goes......
Andy
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Good luck...let us know the results.
Kirby
how is it after hard reset?
My G4 with 12MB ROM is ok
... run TomTom6, Exchange push email, Today agenda plug-in, bluetooth handsfree and make/take 20+ calls a day
It never seems to go below 10MB
I will see if I can 'make' it.
dim4x4 said:
how is it after hard reset?
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I was working away today and I had to soft-reset the Wizard about 9:00 this morning as the phone just couldn't get a signal. I have used TomTom & made and received several phone calls and it is now telling me I have 13.2MB program memory free (ActiveSync is loaded)
So it is still behaving as before.....
I think I might install the 12MB version and see if this does the same thing - I assume it will? Failing that I think the RISidoro 2.6 ROM is going to have to go back on I really don't want to do this as I like the speed of this ROM (obviously not when the memory drains away and its as slow as a dog though..) and the newer features of AKU 3.2.
Andy
ADB100 said:
I was working away today and I had to soft-reset the Wizard about 9:00 this morning as the phone just couldn't get a signal. I have used TomTom & made and received several phone calls and it is now telling me I have 13.2MB program memory free (ActiveSync is loaded)
So it is still behaving as before.....
I think I might install the 12MB version and see if this does the same thing - I assume it will? Failing that I think the RISidoro 2.6 ROM is going to have to go back on I really don't want to do this as I like the speed of this ROM (obviously not when the memory drains away and its as slow as a dog though..) and the newer features of AKU 3.2.
Andy
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one of latest activesyc version has a major memory leak.
pencilcase said:
Hi,
I basically have the same problems as described above. Using a G3 HTC Wizard with the 12mb Rom RC1. It goes down constantly and even if I use the Free_ram application it doesnt manage to free it all again. Apart from that I am still experiencing a severe Battery drainage. I have done a few tests and I am guessing this has to do with the Radio Rom. As soon as I make a call for lets say 2 Minutes the battery droppes aprox 2%. Since I use push-email and am always online with GPRS this means a huge drainage over the day. I will run a few more tests and disable push email and try not to make any calls and see if this still occurs.
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Pencilcase - do you have the Wizard connected to a PC for long periods? I am trying to see whether it might just be the fact that it is connected to my PC for the majority of the time - sat in a cradle with ActiveSync running continuously.
Do many people leave their Wizard connected to a PC (with ActiveSync running) for most of the day?
Andy
faria said:
one of latest activesyc version has a major memory leak.
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Hi Faria - do you know if the ActiveSync version included in your AKU 3.2 ROM has this issue?
I am getting the feeling this might be the case...
ActiveSync on my PC is version 4.2 but I assume this won't affect the memory leak on the Wizard?
Andy
ADB100 said:
Hi Faria - do you know if the ActiveSync version included in your AKU 3.2 ROM has this issue?
I am getting the feeling this might be the case...
ActiveSync on my PC is version 4.2 but I assume this won't affect the memory leak on the Wizard?
Andy
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This is a very good question. I run version 4.5 beta on my PC but can't find anywhere on the Activesync on the phone where it would tell you what version it is.
Kirby
faria said:
one of latest activesyc version has a major memory leak.
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you mean the active sync client within Windows Mobile?
vseehua said:
you mean the active sync client within Windows Mobile?
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Thats my guess wonder which one it is?
Kirby
Then i shall try disabling Active Sync client within my Wizard to see how it goes...
rkwhyte2 said:
My wizard rebooted itself yesterday morning and so it has been running for about 36 hours. I have 12.8 Mb program memory and it rarely gets below 11Mb. When I first installed Faria's ROM I used the 12 Mb version. I thought that I might be seeing a memory leak because I did get down to as low on RAM as you are now seeing and so I installed the 8 Mb version and tracked it for a few days. It has never been as bad as what you are seeing since I installed the 8 Mb version although I don't think whether you use the 8 or 12 Mb version makes any difference. Perhaps a hard reset will help or maybe you will just end up reinstalling all your apps.
Kirby
Just a few other things:
I take 5 to 20 calls a day and run Pocketweather and might also jump out on the web using Netfront
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I haven't had it dip below 11 when idle either with the 8mb but for the short time I had the 12mb installed I did see it go to 8. I think the radio may be the cause I have been having problems with it. I may try to install a different radio
peraltah said:
I haven't had it dip below 11 when idle either with the 8mb but for the short time I had the 12mb installed I did see it go to 8. I think the radio may be the cause I have been having problems with it. I may try to install a different radio
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I know that there has been some discussion about the radio. Let us know what you come up with.
Kirby
I have not connected the Wizard to my PC for a day and guess what? the free program memory has stayed constant at around 9.3MB.....
Can anyone else confirm leaving your Wizard connected to a PC with ActiveSync running causes the free program memory to gradually decrease?
I am running Faria's AKU 3.2 8MB ROM and English ActiveSync 4.2 on my PC.
Thanks
Andy