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Turn your Kaiser into an electronic picture frame

Electronic picture frames are slowly catching on, and we all have gigabytes of family pictures on our desktops at home, but dont have much opportunity to see them.
Ive just bought a Tilt, which has the ideal design for either a desktop clock or a small picture frame. I tether every day, so its normally sitting next to my laptop, powered, but doing nothing.
My solution is in 2 parts. 1 free and 1 will cost $9.95
First, how to get your pictures on the device. This is simple using the media synchronizing abilities of active sync and desktop Windows Media Player.
First enable the media sync plug-in in activesync, then go to Windows Media Player and go to the sync tab with your device plugged in. There you should see your device as a sync-able storage device. Select it, chose to create a new sync profile, be sure to remove all the ones that are already there by default, choose to sync pictures, and add a further criteria to only sync say 10 MB. Set it to sync automatically.
This will copy about 10 Mb of photos (shrunk down to 320x211 resolution) to your device, to a Pictures folder at the root of your device.
Next you need an app called Dockwave Pro. This is not free (they do offer a free version, but it does not have the configuration options we need). Install it, point it to the pictures folder on your device, set the time out and the job is done.
Now every time your device is powered and idle for a few minutes, you will be surprised by a random selection of photos from your collection.
There is not much detail in this post, as I'm not sure how many people are interested, but it obviously can be fleshed out more with screen shots etc if there is enough interest. For a Tilt/Kaiser user its near perfect of course, as the device almost seemed designed for the role.
BTW, there is a built-in option in the built-in picture viewer, under options/slide show to play a screen saver of the pictures under the My Documents\My Pictures directory if your device is idle for 2 minutes, but Windows Media Player wont synchronize pictures to a directory accessible to that software, and the transitions are poorer.
Surur

Interesting idea. Could probably whip up a custom app for that. Now comes the problem. I have no pictures! (I should really get a camera, lol )

Chainfire said:
Now comes the problem. I have no pictures! (I should really get a camera, lol )
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I think you may have a decent 3 megapixel one lying around
If you are going to make a custom viewer, you really need to try out Google photo screen saver out for inspiration. It has a brilliant zoom and pan mode which really brings your pictures to life, and it also downloads pics via RSS, which makes for a nice ever-changing performance.
http://pack.google.com/screensaver.html
Surur

surur said:
I think you may have a decent 3 megapixel one lying around
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Right Too bad it has no flash and even though it has 3MP the quality is nothing to write home about. I mean a real camera, that takes pictures I want to keep
If you are going to make a custom viewer, you really need to try out Google photo screen saver out for inspiration. It has a brilliant zoom and pan mode which really brings your pictures to life, and it also downloads pics via RSS, which makes for a nice ever-changing performance.
http://pack.google.com/screensaver.html
Surur
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Overkill I think for on a 320x240 device, but who knows. I don't even know if or when I'm going to do this, just an idea

Well, Chainfire,
For one, I would LOVE to see what you could come up with for a custom application! To test it out, just download a few pics from someplace....
$9.95 isn't bad...but something that matches the elegance of our Kaiser/Tilts is deserving of something GREAT!

Chainfire said:
Right Too bad it has no flash and even though it has 3MP the quality is nothing to write home about. I mean a real camera, that takes pictures I want to keep
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Quality won't have to be stellar on that small screen though

surur said:
Next you need an app called Dockwave Pro. This is not free (they do offer a free version, but it does not have the configuration options we need). Install it, point it to the pictures folder on your device, set the time out and the job is done.
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This is already a feature of WM Pictures & Videos (w/out fancy transitions):
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borealcool said:
This is already a feature of WM Pictures & Videos (w/out fancy transitions):
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From my post above.
BTW, there is a built-in option in the built-in picture viewer, under options/slide show to play a screen saver of the pictures under the My Documents\My Pictures directory if your device is idle for 2 minutes, but Windows Media Player wont synchronize pictures to a directory accessible to that software, and the transitions are poorer.
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Surur

borealcool said:
This is already a feature of WM Pictures & Videos (w/out fancy transitions):
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he mentions that in the post but also has it's limitations like as far as when you sync to wmp...
EDIT: you beat me to the reply....hehe

Coreplayer 1.2.3 and youtube

Version 1.2.3 came out this week and I have downlaoded it. However, far from solving the youtube problem (i.e. where the spinning wheel goes round forever) the spinning wheel just blinks for a second and then nothing.
Is anyone else having this problem? IIf not, what are your settings for buffering etc?

I had the problem with wheel spinning around forever but only if I had was connected via T-Mobiles WnW Plus GPRS. If connected to WiFi then the video would start playing. I just presumed that T-Mobile were blocking the ports, is that the case?

Wam7 said:
I had the problem with wheel spinning around forever but only if I had was connected via T-Mobiles WnW Plus GPRS. If connected to WiFi then the video would start playing. I just presumed that T-Mobile were blocking the ports, is that the case?
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I have t-mobile too and they definitely prohibit streaming video using WMP on the basic webnwalk tariff. However, youtube works for me using either VTAP or the tcmp/flashbundle. So I still don't understand why there should be a problem with Coreplayer

rienzi said:
Version 1.2.3 came out this week and I have downlaoded it. However, far from solving the youtube problem (i.e. where the spinning wheel goes round forever) the spinning wheel just blinks for a second and then nothing.
Is anyone else having this problem? IIf not, what are your settings for buffering etc?
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I'm with AT&T Wireless here in the United States, and I'm using The Core Player on my Tilt and YouTube works fine for me. My buffering settings are as follows-
Normal buffer size 2400 KB
Preload at underrun 70.0%
Preload for audio 64 KB
YouTube on Core Player works fine for me on EDGE, 3G and WiFi.

californiarailroader said:
I'm with AT&T Wireless here in the United States, and I'm using The Core Player on my Tilt and YouTube works fine for me. My buffering settings are as follows-
Normal buffer size 2400 KB
Preload at underrun 70.0%
Preload for audio 64 KB
YouTube on Core Player works fine for me on EDGE, 3G and WiFi.
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I have the same settings, but still no joy

You WILL be limited on the quality of the feed based on many factors... let me explain... CorePlayer is the first media player to feature Configurable YouTube quality control.... You control the bandwidth and quality that your platform can handle. From Low, Medium, to High quality (H.264) streams.
What happens if you get a 'buffering' icon forever.... that means that its a connectivity issue, BW or device capabilities.... So what we are going to do to make it easier for those less fortunite to have infinite BW resources is:
- Add our progressive download support sooner rather then later. This will help to cache/playback content
- Add an 'auto seek' for the quality setting to make it more seemless.
Here are some more things you may not be aware of.... as well as some things you can do with YouTube in CorePlayer:
- Disable YouTube 'Tools > Preferences > Select Page > Network' and uncheck 'Enable YouTube Support' Restart and its gone
- Set stream/quality 'Tools > Preferences > Select Page > Network > YouTube Format'
* Low (RTSP) default video resolution / audio
** Medium (RTSP) 448x336 44100hz
*** High (H.264) 480x360 44100hz
- Change the default YouTube Profile to be shown 'Tools > Preferences > Select Page > Network > YouTube User' change to the user you wish
- Use http://m.youtube.com on Pocket IE (mobile) or IE (desktop) and click "play' to play a video in CorePlayer.
- See previously played YT videos in the CoreTheque Media Library under 'Top 50', '100 Last Played' or 'Not Rated'
- Open YouTube Videos the 'EASY' way. 'File > Open URL' youtube://123456 (replace 123456 with the video ID, for example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=123456 )
Also note that SOME european users that sit behind a cell PROXY will not be able to connect... now we are getting reports that is some instances that our HTTP Tunneling support does work.... but there is not much we can do in this case as its a limition of the carrier.
ONE LAST THING.... this is just the beginning.... Starting with the next release we will have a HUGE new feature page called 'Channels' that will have many of the webs top video sites.... DailyMotion, Break.com, Revision3 (with DiggNation, TekZilla, The Digg Reel), CNET, etc.
Heres a sneak peak of just DailyMotion
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rienzi said:
I have t-mobile too and they definitely prohibit streaming video using WMP on the basic webnwalk tariff. However, youtube works for me using either VTAP or the tcmp/flashbundle. So I still don't understand why there should be a problem with Coreplayer
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The funny thing is that it worked fine on a slightly older version of Coreplayer so I can't be 100% that it is my provide T-Mobile as I do have the Plus version of the data package which should allow everything but VOIP.

Save as...?
Hey BetaBoy,
will there be a Save Video feature in upcoming releases?
In my opinion, the only missing feature...
Best Regards,
Nik

Guys, read my just-posted review of CP 1.2.4 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387986

nikjensie said:
Hey BetaBoy,
will there be a Save Video feature in upcoming releases?
In my opinion, the only missing feature...
Best Regards,
Nik
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We are thinking about how best to do this. IE; a similar function like Quicktime Pro where it allows you to 'save' video. We will however need to add progressive downloading first... but this is planned for 1.3.x anyway.

Menneisyys said:
Guys, read my just-posted review of CP 1.2.4 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387986
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For sure nice articel, and credit owned.
If only the current issues with 1.2.4 refelcting a black screen on 6.1 releases can be fixed
Looking forward to a solution!
Good work !

ceevee369 said:
For sure nice articel, and credit owned.
If only the current issues with 1.2.4 refelcting a black screen on 6.1 releases can be fixed
Looking forward to a solution!
Good work !
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are you referring to the QTv incompability? if so go to video settings and chose another renderer (DirectDraw works fairly well under the new 6.1 ROMs)

undac said:
are you referring to the QTv incompability? if so go to video settings and chose another renderer (DirectDraw works fairly well under the new 6.1 ROMs)
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Yes, but "fairly well" is not enough neither GDI is "good enough"
CoreCodec did confirmed yesterday on their community site that QTV is indeed not supported in WM6.1 and that they are looking into this now.
Which makes me thinking that HTC did changed rendering DLL's blocking QTV

I changed the Normal buffer size to 480kb as well enabled microdrive mode(not sure what it does or is) and now it works fine on Rogers 3G where as before it would just keep loading.

Rough Diamond - Diamond J6 Attack of the clones

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Operating Frequency: GSM Network Frequency: 900/1800MHz
SIZE(L×W×H): 101*55*13MM Weight/package: 0.65KG
Color: cool black Talk time: 140-280m
Style: Bar Standby time: 140-260h
dual sim dual standby dual bluetooth,FM radio
LCD Size: 2.8 inch, 260 thousand color; PX: 240×320px
Ringtone: 64 chord; Ringtone format: mp3, midi, wav, amr
Music: play mp3 at background; support equalizer with pure voice
Video: 3GP,MP4,support to play in full screen, speed/pause
FM radio: FM stereo, can play outside with earphone
Camera: 3.2 megapixel; support to shoot with sound,the time depends on the storage
Rom: 256M ,support to extend TF card to 4G maximally
Data Transfer: U disc/cable direct read/bluetooth stereo output
Standby Photo: jpg, gif
Main features
Telephone directories: 200 groups ,different ringtone for groups,incoming call with big head sticker or films
SMS & MMS: 200 messages, MMS
Alarm clock: 5 groups, MP3 and FM radio as ringtone
More information: MP3/MP4/Handsfree/SMS group sending/Voice recorder/WAP/Handwritten input/Radio/Bluetooth/GPRS download/MMS/Memory extended/Coming call firewall/charming diamond/dual sim dual standby dual bluetooth/IP dialing/calendar/memo/alarm clock/world time/calculator/remit exchange/health mangement/stopwatch

Yeah, seen this design in many cloned phones.
These are made by chinese companies, using MTC chipset hardware with own UI/OS.
These phones are not using any windows mobile system, nor is the camera really 3.2MP (not to speak of autofocus , but only VGA.
This hardware design is also found as "Hiphone" (iPhone clone from HK) and many more..
Interesting thing though is the capability for DualSIM / Dual Standby and some models even feature Analog or Digital TV.
Nevertheless, this is just a cheap rip-off clone.
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HTC Magician (TMO C)
HTC TyTn (TMO VII)
HTC Touch Diamond
Proud iPhone NOT-User

And only costs about £80
They managed to squeeze in a sd card slot though

The good thing is that the battery lasts a week and the phone does not burn your hand when using it

the gold version haha
The clearing sale：Windows mobile 6.0 smart phone only $99-138.
Operating Frequency: GSM Network Frequency: 900/1800/1900MHz
SIZE(L×W×H): 101*55*13MM Weight/package: 120G
Color: golden Talk time: 140-380m
Style: Bar Standby time: 140-360h
Additional features
Language: Chinese (Simplified)/English/some other languages according to the quantity
LCD Size: 2.8 inch, 260 thousand color; PX: 240×320px
Ringtone: 64 chord; Ringtone format: mp3, midi, wav, amr
Music: play mp3 at background;support equalizer ,MP3 as ringtone
Video: 3GP,MP4,support to play in full screen, speed/pause
FM radio: FM stereo, can play outside with earphone
Camera: 13.0 lacpixel; support to shoot with sound,the time depends on the storage
Rom: 256M ,support to extend TF card to 4G maximally
Data Transfer: U disc/cable direct read/bluetooth stereo output
Standby Photo: jpg, gif
Main features
Telephone directories: 200 groups ,different ringtone for groups,incoming call with big head sticker or videos
SMS & MMS: 200 messages, MMS
Schedule power on/off: can set auto start/close
Alarm clock: 5 groups, support alarm clock,MP3 and FM radio as ringtone
Games: mahjon
More information: MP3/MP4/Handsfree/SMS group sending/Voice recorder/WAP/Handwritten input/Radio/Bluetooth/GPRS download/MMS/Memory extended/Coming call firewall/dual sim dual standby dual bluetooth/calendar/alarm clock/calculator/remit converter/stopwatch/world time/memo/health management/charming diamond phone/luxury mirror phone/dynamic menu

im going to get one
im in hong kong in a month...will grab one then and play with it.

I actually have 5 of these.. trying to figure out how to unlock them.

LOL, cool as mp3 player or secondary phone xD

I ordered one yesterday If annyone has questions about this phone, pm me in about 10 days
At this moment I'm wondering what camera it has. I'm allmost sure that it has a 0,3 megapixel camera, but a lot of websites say that it's 1,3 or even 3 or 13 megapixels. Others talk about lacpixels. I didn't know what it was so i googled it. It's a unit in the Indian numbering system and it stands for 100.000. So if it's 3 lacpixels, it would be 0,3 megapixels.
I know for sure it has NO windows mobile, but it's own firmware wich looks pretty nice with it's HTC home screen(no touch flow, only the home screen, i think)
For as far as i read about it, it looks a lot cheaper when you have it in your hand and it might give problems with the touch sensitivity.
I can't find anything about a webbrowser or email client in it, but according to the specs, it should have gprs.
The phone has a dual sim slot and should be able to have both sim cards in standby at the same time. I've seen a lot fake phones that have allmost the same specifications as this one(most of them where iPhone clones), most of them had dualsim, but none of them could have them both in standby at the same time.
I ordered this phone just to play with, but according to the information i found, i wouldn't recommend it as a primary phone.
I only paid $ 99,90 for it at Deal Extreme
(please be aware of the network frequency, only Europe and Asia might be supported..)

I know that this tread is older but its not that old. So what have you found out rubenmiddel? I am looking at possible getting one of these and using it on my att cell service, if this is at all possible. It looks good, sounds great, and looks like a good placement in my cell service.

hi ....i have this phone.
can anyone tell me where to get games and/or software for it .
im not sure where to look and what to look for, as it doent run on windows the touch diamond stuff doent work.
also would be good for a link to hints/tips setting the phone up and stuff as i cant get mms messaging to work....can recieve them but not download them and cant send them at all...sms and phoning work tho when i goto phone sum1 it dials an ip and doent connect ...i have to view then number then dial to get it to work....apart from this its a neat phone

DealExtreme has a bunch of clone phones...from Diamond to N95 to Iphones.

lude219 said:
DealExtreme has a bunch of clone phones...from Diamond to N95 to Iphones.
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Exactly where I saw it! It's $80 shipped So to those that have it, is it worth the money or just a paper weight? I want to use it on Tmobile here in the US, I'm not even sure if it will work.

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我国的山寨机。。。。。。
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Made in China Mainland。。。。
we call it " shan zhai ji" ......It mean's bad quality and cheap...

scottscorpion said:
hi ....i have this phone.
can anyone tell me where to get games and/or software for it .
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So Sorry~
It's not a smartphone, it only uses some java games and software(.jar)....

Converting Films, and Playing on the TD2

After much trial and error I have finally got films playing at an acceptable quality on my TD2.
I have looked at a lot of threads from the Touch HD forum and tried quite a few programs including DVD Fab, the Touch HD ‘Encoder’, Super, Mp4ForHD and a few others I can’t even remember.
What I have found works best ‘for me’ is this combination:​
Use DVD Decrypter from here http://www.dvddecrypter.org.uk/to remove the encryption on the DVD, and to also transfer it to your hard drive.
Then I use Handbrake from here http://handbrake.fr/ using this setup I can batch convert films instead of one by one by using Handbrake alone.
Steps:
1. DVD Decrypter
2. Using the default settings I select where I want the film to be stored, then just click on the bottom Icon.
3. This takes about 25 minutes depending on the disc.
4. Handbrake
5. Someone on one of the many threads I saw recommended to use the ipod legacy settings, and while this helped, it fell a little short, so I adjusted and came up with the following settings
6. Select Source (this would be where you saved the files previously)
7. I leave Title as is, as long as the Duration looks the right length
8. Browse for a location to save to finished file (make sure you add .m4v to the name)
9. Settings:
a. Format M4V​b. Picture Settings​i. Automatic​ii. Width / Height –Leave Blank​iii. Anamorphic – None​iv. Other settings leave off / unchecked​
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d. Audio & Subtitles​i. Source – Select English (or your language) IMPORTANT, This will need to be selected for each film you convert, the settings won’t be saved​ii. Audio Codec – AAC​iii. Mixdown – Stereo​iv. Sample Rate 48 kHz​v. Bitrate 128 kbps​
10. I leave Chapters, Advanced and Query Editor alone.
11. Now you can Click ‘Start’, but this will only do one at a time (and as explained in the Handbrake docs, if the GUI crashes you lose the conversion) so I always select ‘Add to Queue’
12. Now you can either ‘Run’ the queue or once you have added the current file to the queue you can now start from Selecting Source and recheck the settings, then ‘Add to Queue’ with the next film, great for batch converting.
Now for me it takes about four hours for each film, so its not quick, but my PCs fairly old (P4 3.0 Mhz, 1500mb RAM), but considering it has to change each frame of the film I don’t think that’s bad.
Once its all done you end up with around a 1-1.5 gb file, transfer this to an SD card.
For viewing I use only HTC Album for these files, both Coreplayer and WMP don’t perform as well (if at all), also although HTC Album is limited in its settings, there is a simple way to convert the picture from Letterbox, to Full Screen, to Cropped (as long as you haven’t entered anything in the picture size ‘Width / Height’ settings) by using the square button on the right hand side when playing a film.
Note 1: I discounted some of the programs I tried because they couldn’t merge the vob (DVD files) files into a single output file, unless you wanted to use yet another program to do this (‘Vob Merge’ can do this, although I never tried it)
Note 2: To avoid any ‘issues’ this should only be used for DVDs you already own.
Just thought I’d share my experience as it took me quite a while to get the results I wanted.
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Thank you you have done a great job.
This tool is also very easy to use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478050

That's a good one,but Oh My God! Does that mean the TD2 won't be able to play .avi or .divx? I thought I will just drag and drop my PC videos/movies to the TD2 and it will play flawlessly. I really hate this converting thing..

ithehappy said:
That's a good one,but Oh My God! Does that mean the TD2 won't be able to play .avi or .divx? I thought I will just drag and drop my PC videos/movies to the TD2 and it will play flawlessly. I really hate this converting thing..
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Oh do not worry
I never converted a divx for my TD2.
Never had a problem
But i think if the film is converted our TD2 will drain the battery not fast as not converting at all (just my opinion and NOT confirmed by tests)
Or perhaps it is ok to convert when a divx has a VERY high bitrate.

for me i dont have convert i just use coreplayer to play my movie files

Sorry, I should have made it clearer, but this is for DVD's only, as for most people trying to play 4gb + vob files taken straight from a DVD would pose problems!
As for other formats, it all down to what works best for you.

this is post number 9999999 about the subject, and in many experiences it doesn't really matter which converter u use, but the settings are important, and also important to know is that the mediaplayer that comes with your TD2 (i'm talking about the one that looks like windows mediaplayer) can run HDvideo on your TD2, which for me is the only way i want to watch anyway, cause any other player can't use the diamond 2's HD acceleration for video....
so convert to mp4 (h.264). look up the proper thread for it somewhere in the topaz threads. it's out there somewhere. worked great for me, and gives me the maximum quality on my td2.

TCPMP (Porkie Edition)

This is a version of TCPMP I finished Mar.7,2010. Hope you enjoy!
www.4shared.com/file/236159674/2559877c/porkenhimer_projects_tcpmp__po.html?s=1

porkenhimer said:
This is a version of TCPMP I built using dll's, plugins & codecs i have collected. Hope you enjoy.
4sharedcom/file/233969768/cdfd473b/tcpmp_porkie_edition
Video Formats:
WMV
XVID
DIVX
MOV
MP4
3GP
FLV
FLV4
H.263
H.264 (AVC)
Plus many more common formats.
Added & Fixed:
Fixed FLV fullscreen shaking by adding a newer FFMPEG.PLG
Added 24 languages
Added 2 subtitle plugins
Added AVRCP control
Added GAPI driver
Fixed equalizer
Instructions:
Install cab to sdcard then open TCPMP for the first time & then close it. After closing copy all the files in the zip to the TCPMP program folder. if it ask to overwrite select yes to all. Do not copy the files to the program folder unless u have already opened and closed TCPMP. After copying the files open TCPMP again. You will get a few error alerts but thats fine. Now you are finished. No need to soft reset.
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what the rubber duck is a 'dll'

4shared.com/file/233969768/cdfd473b/tcpmp_porkie_edition
CORRECT URL

porkenhimer said:
4shared.com/file/233969768/cdfd473b/tcpmp_porkie_edition
CORRECT URL
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I know that Android is beginning to replace WinMo, but if you want to get a foothold on Android your going to have to port your media player to android first.
never used winmo, put had a 'play' the other day, it is truly awful, but haret.exe fixed it, the diamond now has Eclair 2.0 on it, and hell it works much better... when camera fully works will do nand flash and get rid of the winmo bs )

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Firerat said:
I know that Android is beginning to replace WinMo, but if you want to get a foothold on Android your going to have to port your media player to android first.
never used winmo, put had a 'play' the other day, it is truly awful, but haret.exe fixed it, the diamond now has Eclair 2.0 on it, and hell it works much better... when camera fully works will do nand flash and get rid of the winmo bs )
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The main difference between winmo and android/iphone is that one is for professional use (intelligent people who work and think) and one is for entertainment (children, adult handicaps and people who don't know how to hold a pencil). Unfortunately looks like WinPho7 is going that way too - another toy. You might like it

darfri said:
The main difference between winmo and android/iphone is that one is for professional use (intelligent people who work and think) and one is for entertainment (children, adult handicaps and people who don't know how to hold a pencil). Unfortunately looks like WinPho7 is going that way too - another toy. You might like it
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>/dev/null

I don't want to bring you down but you're bundling a lot of useless files (same as Tech1 build... all those dll files are either useless or already exist in the ROM). I get the feeling you used Tech1 pack as base and added some files from the fake 0.81 and the other ones are from bimbam...
Some may prefer the subs.plg (because it works in all video modes) but has a lot of flickering in fullscreen depending on the video size and must be activated (in settings) everytime you play a movie with subs.
Only advantage is that using an old player.exe makes the lyrics plugin work...
However it's a (way) bigger setup, without skin support (unless you consider the backgound used by the lyrics plugin) and older components.

Some Pointers...
You may want to see exactly which plugins your executable uses, and which it does not... These will vary depending on which versions you have. More is not always better, and fewer plugins means more speed, and greater efficiency. With testing, you will be able to determine which ones you can delete, and which ones are necessary...

brettf said:
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Both(topics) are good, imho.
fewer plugins means more speed, and greater efficiency.
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not..exactly..true, but nvmd,
it is matter of choices(and testing, idd).