Noob with a question. - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

Hi, I search and read alot post here but before I go on with flashing my rom I just wanted to make sure.
1. My new phone is a 8125, came with IPL SPL is 2.25, with no .001 trailing means G3 phone? but my phone is new so i'm surprise to see i have that chip since it's a newer model. So is it G3?
2. I know aWizard is unable to CID unlock cause i have 2.25 get a error message.
3. I read on another post I have to downgrade to 1.xx something inorder to CID unlock, can I do that with my 2.25 without bricking my phone?
thanxs for your time and help. HOpe to hear from you guys soon.

It sounds like you have a G3 device, however I wonder why you would want to CID unlock your phone. It is really risky and also pointless as well.

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Please Assist- Cingular 8125 and downgrade options(if any)

I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info
If your phone is CID locked (and it is CID locked by default unless you have unlocked it) upgrading to the 2.25 ROM has prevented you from using the free tools on this site to do the unlock.
If you want to CID unlock you will have to pay for the http://imei-check.co.uk service. It claims to do both a SIM and CID unlock and is currently the only known way to CID unlock ROMs that are version 2.21 and higher. If you wait, a free solution will no doubt come out but if you want it now, it's going to cost you £20/$40.
Once the Wizard is CID unlocked you can flash any Wizard ROM you choose to it.
Re: Please Assist- Cingular 8125 and downgrade options(if an
aixenv said:
I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info
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You'll want to flash to the original shipping rom which is on the xda-dev ftp at:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
Once that's installed, use awizard or lokiwiz to CID unlock. And once that's done, flash to whichever ROM floats your boat.
Post back here if you run into any snags and can't resolve it reading through the existing messages.
Are you an AIX admin?
ahh yes im now finding on the ftp server
Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
yes linux/UNIX guru (AIX, FreeBSD, SUSE, etc) & phone noob, go figure..
im seeing conflicting statements here, 1 saying i can just downgrade to my shipped rom, the other saying i cant.
i received the phone yesterday, read up on some of the apps to try out, saw the new rom out, decided to try that out, did a soft reset on cingular extrom and then well have what i have, now i wanted to play a little more and test other peoples roms out and yet with no CID lock which would be the default i was under the impression i was SoL.. is that not correct? JUST to reverify with conflicting reports
after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough
aixenv said:
after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough
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Try it, the worst that will happen is that you get an error saying that you can't flash an older Rom (than what is already installed).
well the update (downgrade to v1.8 shipped rom from 2.25) util is at 75% atm, .. will update accordingly....
ok well it ran the "downgrade" with no problems, i soft reset on the cingular apps, and when the system boots back up i get the following:
IPL = 1.08
SPL = 2.25
GSM = 1.09.11
OS = 1.8.11.1
so from what ive read on the forums i think it's a good thing i asked them to overnight me a new phone due to faulty reception (which is true it doesn't get the reception a buddies gets)..because i would assume with the SPL at > 2.25 i wouldnt be able to unlock the CID, correct?

HOW TO UPGRADE SPV M3000 (without bricking)

hey folks. i think i need to reflash my spv m3000 because it keeps restarting and the phone is reaaaly sluggish..
IPL 1.09
SPL 1.09
GSM 01.04.10
OS 1.9.1.1
This is what i have got. i have no clue whatsoever if this rom is good or not but it doesn;t seem to do the trick for me..
i have be reading for some weeks but i am still unsure wether my phone is CID locked or not. or what rom should or can i use.
i still don;t understand the G3 G4 difference and why everybody talks about 2.xx spl and ipl and i have 1.09....
could anybody please translate all this technical details into english? i have no intention of bricking the device..so i am folowing the advice in all tutorials "if u n't know what you are doing ..ask first"
i have some more questions:
are the new roms more stable or at least faster? because this one keeps restarting randomly.
cand somebody really give me some step by step information on what i need to do?
how can i back up this original firmware..so if the upgrade doesn't work i would still be able to reflash it back
i am mentioning that the phone was sim locked and i uset lokiwiz tool to unlock it.
ftp://xda:[email protected]_US_226102_22610105_022511_WWE_Ship.exe
I would use this one, it's safe, original.
i would appreciate if you could answer al my q's..i am not ready to flash it without knowing if i am cid ocked and what is that...etc
I thought you mentioned you unlocked it.
The ROM is stable, all the posts like Beta, Unhappyhousewife etc. have thgis one as basis.
About your Backup, to be honest I don't have clue because I never had or wanted to go back.
ok. my main concern is about the 1.xx spl and ipl comaptibility. all i could find aroundhere was said about 2.xx
i am afraid to upgrade untill i know for sure what my 1.xx means in practical terms
did u have 1.xx before upgrading?
I did,yes.
Most of us start with 1.
thanx man. so without sounding stupid i will ask for final instructions.
correct me if i'm wrong.
i will have to cid unlock the devicei first using lokiwiz 2
then i will be able to use the rom u suggested?

Cid Unloking G4 (.0001)

all famous coockers just jumping around abt this issue, but no one tells an exact answer, is there any posibility to unlock G4 2.xx.0001. But main thing that pisses me off that if any of them will lose thier phones, they never will get a G3 device, cuz there's no vendor who manufacturing this version phones anymore. and after that they will focus on coocking ROMs so they can be puted to G4 wizards. this address : http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ only do sim unloking for G4. but some ppl claim that there is a way to unlock but no1 start a thread abt it.
and the question: were's a truth ? were's a information for ppl to whom u do this work that brings no money?
__s said:
all famous coockers just jumping around abt this issue, but no one tells an exact answer, is there any posibility to unlock G4 2.xx.0001. But main thing that pisses me off that if any of them will lose thier phones, they never will get a G3 device, cuz there's no vendor who manufacturing this version phones anymore. and after that they will focus on coocking ROMs so they can be puted to G4 wizards. this address : http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ only do sim unloking for G4. but some ppl claim that there is a way to unlock but no1 start a thread abt it.
and the question: were's a truth ? were's a information for ppl to whom u do this work that brings no money?
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If it is really possible, we won't have so many people complaining about their G4 being bricked... so no, we haven't found a way to CID unlock G4s as of now...
G4 Unlock sucessfully
I unlock my Wizard (G4) using this procedure, Yesterday. Now I'm able to install any ROM including the greatest Faria(3.0.0.0) ROM.
I like to thanks the support and effort of our cookers.
Millions Thkx
i found about 4 ppl here who break G4 device, including me . i think this is a big number. but anyway all we have to do is wait , maybe some1 will turn his knowledge into this problem. and we'll unleash the power of this masterpiece device
let me be clear once for all
the only place that you g4 can be CID UNLOCKED IS HERE
http://www.imei-check.co.uk/
its been tried and tested hence why g4 can install my rom.this does not mean that you can install other rom cookers rom.i have a way of cooking roms that are compatible with g4.
but you will atleast be able to to flash any provider rom.make sure it is above aku2.never try to install a rom with ipl/spl 1xxxx in a g4.you will brick it,even if it has been unlocked.
__s said:
i found about 4 ppl here who break G4 device, including me . i think this is a big number. but anyway all we have to do is wait , maybe some1 will turn his knowledge into this problem. and we'll unleash the power of this masterpiece device
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pearhaps i'm the 5th person who break his G4 they change it to me and they gave me one with SPL/IPL 2.21 no 000 neither 0001 i think it's G3 i'm i wrong ?
hica said:
pearhaps i'm the 5th person who break his G4 they change it to me and they gave me one with SPL/IPL 2.21 no 000 neither 0001 i think it's G3 i'm i wrong ?
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IT's G3 all right...
ok now i'm sure i have a G3 with Molski2.26 SPL/IPL 2.26
can i downgrade it and CID unlock it without probleme ? because i remember SPL / IPL = or >2.21 can not be CID unlocked using Lockwiz2b !!
if no can i install Faria 3.00 ROM and return back to any rom 2.xx ?
2.17.0001 (G4) unlocked
I unlocked mine at imei-check yesterday and upgraded to the latest Faria ROM no problem.
40$ for unlocking at http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ is not much but still the money
I'm surprised no-one has found a free way of doing it yet, clearly it's possible, hopefully someone in the know will get lumped with a G4 and be forced to find a way
I have no programing knowledge, but it seems like someone who does and has a G4 should be able to reverse engineer that utility that imei-check uses to figure out what they are doing?
You guys that have unlocked your G4, are you able to do a ROM backup to the SD card?
Me too yesterday did CID unlock my G4 in imei-check.co.uk and flashed Faria's ROM. Now I can install any AKU 2.X / 3.X rom (shipped/custom) without IPL/SPL.
Nishad
Once a G4 has been CID unlocked, can you flash a ROM with an IPL/SPL in it, as long as its not a 1.xx?
Basically can a G3 IPL/SPL be put onto a G4 device after the G4 has been CID unlocked, or will G4 users always have to use ROMs with the IPL/SPL removed from them?
d0ug said:
Basically can a G3 IPL/SPL be put onto a G4 device after the G4 has been CID unlocked, or will G4 users always have to use ROMs with the IPL/SPL removed from them?
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THAT's what you CAN'T do. Don't use a G3 ROM on a G4 device. It's not the IPL/SPL that's the problem. It's the bootloader. If you flash with a rom that's not compatible with a G4 device, and your G4 is unlocked, it will flash. But the next time you try to boot it it will not boot. That's because the bootloader for a G4 is different than a G3.
I paid imei-check to unlock my G4. I thought like you did, that I could now flash any rom. So I did. Then I bricked it because I flashed a G3 rom with a G3 bootloader. Silly me.
don't mix g3 & g4
I understand from reading this forum that G3 devices can have their IPL/SPL changed whereas the G4 devices cannot. I am a bit unclear if G4 devices can upgrade updwards (someone please confirm) but I know they cannot go down to IPL 1.xx
So the difference between G3 & G4 updates is that G4 updates do not have IPL/SPL components. I have taken a G3 Mr Clean update, unpacked it and repacked it without the IPL/SPL and it worked without any problems on my G4. Details on how to do this are in this forum.
Ok I am stuck for sure. I have Cingular 8125 with stock ipl/spl 2.25. I wanted to install faria Aku 3.2 rom and followed the instructions to a T. I downgraded to "CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE," Then CID unlocked my phone with Lockwiz 0.2 by placing enablerapi.cab in phone and executing it. All went well. Then I upgraded to Moleski's "RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2," and then tried to upgrade to Faria's "FARIA-HTC-WIZARD -3.2-RC1-8MB Rom." (Even removed sim, and hardreset as per instructions) Everything seem like it was going smooth. After installation, the only thing that changed was the flash screen nothing else. So I tried to flash back to the stock ipl/spl 2.25 and I get an error message regarding the nk.nbf file. Now, no matter what rom I try to install it stays at ipl: 1.01, spl: 2.26, GSM: 1.12.10, OS:1.5.4.2. Where did i go wrong.
d0ug said:
I have no programing knowledge, but it seems like someone who does and has a G4 should be able to reverse engineer that utility that imei-check uses to figure out what they are doing?
You guys that have unlocked your G4, are you able to do a ROM backup to the SD card?
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Trust me, there are people working on this ;-)
joshnat said:
THAT's what you CAN'T do. Don't use a G3 ROM on a G4 device. It's not the IPL/SPL that's the problem. It's the bootloader. If you flash with a rom that's not compatible with a G4 device, and your G4 is unlocked, it will flash. But the next time you try to boot it it will not boot. That's because the bootloader for a G4 is different than a G3.
I paid imei-check to unlock my G4. I thought like you did, that I could now flash any rom. So I did. Then I bricked it because I flashed a G3 rom with a G3 bootloader. Silly me.
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IPL/SPL is the bootloader and bootloader is the IPL/SPL.

Listen, im sorry but i need help

Hey, ive been reading for a while but i still dont know exactly what to do to upgrade my tmobile mda. im pretty sure its the vario one. and it's image version is 1.8.10.104. its ipl and spl are both 1.08 so i think that means itsa g3 chip. I tried downloading a different rom but it just didnt work.
I just want the newest version. I have bluetooth stereo headphones and i would love to use them with this phone. Any help with be much aprreciated
jawnsixteen said:
Hey, ive been reading for a while but i still dont know exactly what to do to upgrade my tmobile mda. im pretty sure its the vario one. and it's image version is 1.8.10.104. its ipl and spl are both 1.08 so i think that means itsa g3 chip. I tried downloading a different rom but it just didnt work.
I just want the newest version. I have bluetooth stereo headphones and i would love to use them with this phone. Any help with be much aprreciated
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read the Sticky for the definitive guide to CID unlocking and upgrading G3 wizards.
If you follow every step in that tutorial you will:
a. have a CID unlocked wizard capable of being flashed with any wizard rom, custom or otherwise
b. you will KNOW that you device is CID unlocked because you did it yourself
c. ROM's will actually flash because your CID is unlocked.
NOTE: you currently have a 1.08 bootloader. You cannot flash a 2.xx custom rom until you upgrade your bootloader to 2.xx. The easiest way of doing this is flashing the much promoted T-Mobile 2.26 rom. Of course if you follow all the steps in the unlocking tutorial you will end up with IPL/SPL 2.26 and be CID unlocked.
ok, thank you
it says that it voids the warrenty
But i thought it was a made-by-tmobile download?
And can't i just reboot it to the original version i have right now if there are any problems or anything? Will the notice? is it possible?
jawnsixteen said:
ok, thank you
it says that it voids the warrenty
But i thought it was a made-by-tmobile download?
And can't i just reboot it to the original version i have right now if there are any problems or anything? Will the notice? is it possible?
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If you want WM6 you will be voiding your warranty as you won't be able to flash it unless you are CID unlocked.
There currently is not and most likely NEVER will be an official WM6 carrier rom for the Wizard.
If all you want is the latest carrier rom from your carrier then all you have to do is go to their website and download it and follow the instructions. You won't have to worry about CID or warranty voiding.
As for them noticing, maybe, maybe not. It really depends on who you talk to. If you stay with roms only made and released from your carrier you won't have anything to worry about as you can flash them without doing anything that will void your warranty.

Upgrade Wizard G3 3.08 unpossible

ipl spl 3.08; RUU at 100%, but Wizard stays at the same rom. Why ?
Thanks.
moteur said:
ipl spl 3.08; RUU at 100%, but Wizard stays at the same rom. Why ?
Thanks.
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The reason is dear that you did not CID unlocked your phone and upgraded to ipl/spl 3.08.You didn't follow the guide correctly.
Rules of the forum are to read,read and read fully to understand and only than go for the upgrade,lol
Anyway if it's a G3,which I'm sure it is,otherwise if it happen to be a G4,man you had it,it wud had been an expensive piece of paper weight on your desk, and loading the same previous,read the guide and try to downgrade to ipl/spl 1.xx,than correctly follow the unlocking guide,ok
good luck
Please read and follow the [Definitive guide] clicking here.
You don't have to be CID unlocked to flash the 3.08 IPL/SPL. If you're not though I would suggest holding off on it until you do because of the serious problems people have been encountering when trying to go back down to a 1.xx IPL/SPL. It could cause you to never be able to CID unlock.
YES!
Of course,it's not necessary to CID unlock for upgrade to 3.08,cuz it's just an upgrade to latest Bootloaders,IPL/SPL 3.08 and keep using the current official Carrier's Rom and pray that your carrier might someday provides with a wm6 oggicial upgrade...But if you are looking to upgrade to a newer wm6 custom build Rom,well,it's recommended and wise to unlock first and than upgrade to ipl/spl 3.08,cuz unlocking is only possible in ipl/spl 1.xx and after upgrade to 3.08,BAh!!,and downgrading to 1.xx for unlocking...... it's where things start getting rotten and it becomes a pain in the neck.
moteur
So, I must say you missed the bus of an easy option to unlock,I still don't say that it can't be done,it's very much possible,only now it wud take some efforts to get down to 1.xx,anyway,when there's a will,there's a way,lol,or take xeno1's advise and stick to what it's worth for,good luck

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