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MDA Vario: CID unlock? rom upgrade! HELP!

Hi all,
i've read a lot of threads on this forum and posted here and there but haven't got the answers I need to start messing with my phone.
could someone please help me out and give some advice?
I have a CID & SIM locked Dutch MDA Vario G3 with IPL/SPL at 2.21
I would really like to upgrade my ROM for getting rid of the tmobile stuff AND speed it up.
I'd like to know the following:
1) Can I upgrade a locked DUTCH vario to the Official tmobile 2.26 USA software without hacking or is this prevented as well?
2) I read stories about CID unlocking a G3 2.21 being possible AND being Impossible ..... which is it?
3) Can I downgrade my phone SAFELY to the custom ROM on this forum, I read about success stories but not for everyone .... what makes it work sometimes and does it matter that it will downgrade the IPL but NOT the SPL?
4) Can I or can I NOT just flash a G4 ROM over my G3 phone and leave the locked IPL/SPL as it is?
5) is there a disadvantage to NOT unlocking it and just flash a G4 ROM? what would I be missing out on? can I upgrade to 2.26 official and then flash a G4 ROM and have the same end result?
please help me out on this, I am ready to flash my phone but would not like to brick it since it is just a month old.
thanks a lot! stefan.

i trie craptree's guide, and I can read back all relevant data from my locked vario, at 2.21 I just can't write it back, so that's a nogo either.
any advice? G4 ROM or downgrade?

New 9100 owner IPL, SPL, AKU questions

Hey, I am the new owner of a Qtek 9100 purchased from ebay. This is an actual Qtek device, not a branded T-mobile, or Cingular version. This 9100 should be completely unlocked correct? It was advertised as such on ebay. Is there any way to verify its lock/unlock status?
I have been reading about firmware upgrading and beleve my 9100 is a G4 device. My version info at bootup is as follows
IPL: 2.17.0001
SPL: 2.17.0001
GSM: 02.02.10
OS: 2.17.7.2
I know the IPL/SPL are bootloaders. Since this should be an unlocked device do i still have the same G4 IPL/SPL concerns with flashing the firmware that i have been reading about in various threads. Can you point me to some threads with more info about the IPL/SPL? When i do a search for these terms, nothing comes up.
From what i gather the AKU has something to do with the version of the OS. What diffrent AKU versions are available, is there a table or list somewhere with the differences betwen versions? As with trying to search for IPL SPL info, searching for AKU turns up nothing.
Thanks,
Doug

Doug - I did and have exactly the same as you..... Bought a QTEK 9100 on eBay. Mine arrived with 1.x IPL/SPL/ROM (I can't remember specifically which version it was). I quickly updated this using the official update that is linked via the expansys.co.uk website to the same version you are running (2.17 WWE).
After a day or so I found the xda-developers forum and downloaded some of the 'cooked' ROMs that take it to the current 2.26 version. I however had a problem installing the RISidoro ROM and I assumed my QTEK 9100 was completely unlocked - it wasn't. It was Network Unlocked but not CID unlocked; I couldn't install the RISidoro ROM until I CID unlocked it using the Lokiwiz tool. I could install the MRClean 2.24 ROM but not RISidoro's 2.26.
Have a read through the RISodoro ROM thread for info on how to CID unlock you 9100 - it seems G3 versions are easy to CID unlock but not G4 versions, I was lucky enough to have a G3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276700
I am still trying to understand the AKU 2.3 & 3.2 thing but I think this is a Windows Mobile version thing. Hopefully someone will post specific details of what the AKU is......
HTH
Andy

OK, I read through that thread, and didn't really give a good answer to CID unlocking a G4. I keep seeing people talking about unlocking the G4. I saw a few posts with people confirming the steps to unlock a G4 but they never got any kind of response if they were right. That thread almost seems like a mess of suggestions for both G3 and G4 and you can easilly get lost not knowing if someone is talking about a G3 or G4 in their response.
Is there any kind of utility that can be run on the PC with the 9100 connected to verify the CID lock status, or a utility to run on the 9100 itself?
If i am CID locked. Are there any EXACT step by step directions for unlocking the G4. I dont want to brick it.

missed upgrade

I just upgraded my QTEK 9100 with the latest RIsidoro rom and have now a 2.26 OS but...always an ipl 1.03 and a spl 1.03.0000.
The device hangs and I can't have any activsync runnuing to reflash to an other version. How can I recuperate my PPC?
Thanks in advance

sailors_be said:
I just upgraded my QTEK 9100 with the latest RIsidoro rom and have now a 2.26 OS but...always an ipl 1.03 and a spl 1.03.0000.
The device hangs and I can't have any activsync runnuing to reflash to an other version. How can I recuperate my PPC?
Thanks in advance
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To get you started have a look at these threads:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282498
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284292

More info required.
When having problems with Rom Upgrades you really need to provide as much information as possible about your situation.
Please state the following:
What Rom did you have prior to upgrading, include IPL/SPL numbers.
Do you know if your device is G3 or G4 flash chip?
Is your device CID Unlocked?
Have your read (thoroughly) the instructions provided for the Rom you attempted to upgrade?
My initial guess would be that the Rom you flashed doesn't include IPL/SPL (as Risidoro clearly states in the Original Post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276700)
In this case, you need to flash one of the Operator provided AKU 2.x Roms to get your IPL/SPL up to 2.x BEFORE you flash Risidoro's Rom to your device.

Thank you for you reaction
Before flashing I had following situation
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.03.0000
GSM 1.410.0
OS 1.37.10
I didn't saw the thread wher it said that the isodoro flash wasn't a complete one. So I upgraded the device with this rom on the above config
After flashing with Isodoro I have same IPL and SPL no GSM anymore and OS 2.26...
I have no USB connection anymore, I supose I can not flash anymore. The device is extremely slow. The only rescue I see is eventualy to flash the device again with the mini SD.
Before I started the first flash I did a CID unlock. Actualy i don't now if it is locked again.
If tou need more info don't hesitate and thanks for helping.

I'm going to give you some general info but you will have to do your own leg work to put this together.
The Wizard Wiki will contain some of the information you need:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
Also see the stickied posts at the beginning of the Wizard upgrading forum.
I am assuming that your device is not properly CID Unlocked (although it may be doing it again will not harm your device).
First you will need to download an Operator Rom, I would suggest this one:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe
as it is an official Qtek AKU 1.x Rom.
Second place your Device into Bootloader Mode (search on it) and run the update that you downloaded.
At this point you are pretty close to where you were when you started.
Now, CID Unlock your Phone! Use this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249474
If you have followed the instructions and everything went okay then you can now flash any of the Roms you (except one that are marked as G4 only since you appear to have a G3 Device).

sailors_be said:
Thank you for you reaction
Before flashing I had following situation
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.03.0000
GSM 1.410.0
OS 1.37.10
I didn't saw the thread wher it said that the isodoro flash wasn't a complete one. So I upgraded the device with this rom on the above config
After flashing with Isodoro I have same IPL and SPL no GSM anymore and OS 2.26...
I have no USB connection anymore, I supose I can not flash anymore. The device is extremely slow. The only rescue I see is eventualy to flash the device again with the mini SD.
Before I started the first flash I did a CID unlock. Actualy i don't now if it is locked again.
If tou need more info don't hesitate and thanks for helping.
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Looks like you flashed a 2.xx rom with no bootloader into a 1.xx system.
First try a full 2.xx rom from a carrier (cingular 2.25 comes to mind) then reflash the rom you want. Be careful playing with the phone in the current state as the battery will drain and not re-charge. I had to have a friend charge my battery for me when I did this same thing.

many thanks
I followed the procedure you give and recuperated my phone.
Thanks a lot for the assistance.
Merry christmas and happy new year
Jean-Michel

CID Unlock not working

Hi All,
I have not been able to unlock my Cingular 8125... to upgrade the thing to WM6.
Yip ran the lockwiz a few times... it did give me some write error though.
...
CopyFileToTFFS(unlocked.bin:0, 0, 00010000)
ERROR: ITWriteDisk - An internal error occurred.
result=80072746
Your phone is now unlocked...
My phone is a G3. I can use different sims. But I cannot CID unlock? I have used lokiwiz and awizard... what else can I do to CID unlock?
I am currently downloading your rom.I have not tried any roms as I am quite new to this. I have flashed my 8125 to - IPL1.01 SPL 3.08 gsm 01.12.10 os1.5.4.2.
I have also tried several time to downgrade to button... no joy, the spl wont go. I have upgraded to both ipl/spl3.08 and still cannot upgrade the rom.
Thanks,
SanMan

Did you read the sticky with the guide to an easy and safe unlocking by Dr. Puttingham? If you did then you should have read with more attention.
You've messed up your phone's bootloader. It's not supposed to have such different values. If you didn't unlock it before moving to SPL 3.08 you won't be doing it now as it must be 1.xx for lokiwiz and other tools to work.
Go READ threads of others in same situation as you and be sure to have a FULL battery before starting the flashing process.

great thanks for that... so since my spl and ipl are not the same I need to try to downgrade my spl to the same version of button?
Bud I have read and read and read... and now I have only posted. I see that people in my predicament look for a rom called 1.18 from cingular and apparantly that fixes the problem so I can downgrade and re-run my cid unlock. I will read through all of Dr Putting threads where I have also posted to try to resolve this. Thanks for you constructive assistance.
Kind regards,
SanMan
We were all at this point in our lives sometime.

Need rom for downgrade
hi SandfordE,
Could you please send me the link or the file that downgrade the rom to 1.xx. i have tried to looking for so much time but sill can't not. all link is dead.
please, thank you for your help

the blind leading the blind.
well the only one I have been able to get is this one, from Dr putting
http://rapidshare.com/files/18212239/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe.html
I cannot find the 1.xx cingular rom which apparantly you need if you dont follow dr p, goodies properly.
Apparantly if you goto http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/161 and register there is a pathetically slow download link for 1.8x... which should be able to change the ipl and spl to the same thing.
hope this helps you. Please dont run or upgrade anything on ure phone till both the ipl and spl are 1.x that where I made my mistake.
Being a techie I guess thats our problem always wanting to upgrade with out rtfm.
hth
San

Thank SanFordE
Downloading, then downgrade to ipl/spl 1.xx, then cidunlock then uprade to ipl/spl 2.xx then update to wm6.
Am i correct??
thanks again for your help

hi magic
yip thats exactly what I am doing, hopefully it will work, please could you post ure results. Pity bandwidth here in South Africa is so terrible else i would be able to download at home.
Thanks man,
Sanford

hi SanfordE,
why my ipl is 1.xx but the spl still 2.xx after flash sucessfully??
Thanks

Hi,
This worked for me, now i just need to flash the ipl/spl 2.xx then ready for wm6
Thanks

Maybe try to flash with button from dr p sticky... but remember before you can do anything else the like run lokiwiz, the ipl and spl need to be 1.xx
hope this helps.
s

SanfordE said:
Maybe try to flash with button from dr p sticky... but remember before you can do anything else the like run lokiwiz, the ipl and spl need to be 1.xx
hope this helps.
s
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wow, i'm impressed . You passed from asking for tutoring to giving good tips in no time. well done m8 . All you need now is to manage the successful downgrade.
Are you sure your phone is still locked? Check CID status with mtty.

Thanks for that tip
Got already will try this procedure again tonight... hopefully it works.

hi SanFordE,
now i'm on wm6. thank a lot for your support

Hi MagicEr,
How many times did you have to flash with 1.8.11
I have tried twice already and my spl is still 3.08...
Maybe downgrade to Wizard_Love 2.26? The rey the other way?
Any input is kewl...
no worries S

WM6 is lovely...
All fixed on WM6
Note to all good people, once you have flashed with 1.8.11 <-- this is only on a cingular 8125, even though the spl is 3.08, you can run your lokiwiz to CID unlock and then flash.
Many thanks to all the developers and contributors to this forum.
Sanford

SanfordE said:
All fixed on WM6
Note to all good people, once you have flashed with 1.8.11 <-- this is only on a cingular 8125, even though the spl is 3.08, you can run your lokiwiz to CID unlock and then flash.
Many thanks to all the developers and contributors to this forum.
Sanford
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hmm not sure if the SPL is really 3.08 although it shows that.
The CID block protection is applied by SPL so if lokiwiz worked it means that the SPL did downgrade
Glad you fixed it though.
cheers

Downgrade Locked G3 with 3.08 IPL/SPL

I have read the guides to unlocking and from what I see there are none that work on 3.xx SPL/IPL. I was able to downgrade the IPL but never the SPL.
I have seen several threads that say if you flash button rom (several times) it will eventually downgrade the SPL also, but all night as I worked I flashed the button ROM (about 12-15 times) and still can't downgrade the SPL from the 3.08, only IPL goes to 1.01
Tried the original Cingular ROM and it isn't accepted (I think because I have a higher SPL than the original 2.26), tried using the ShellTool, Tried SoftSPL too but none worked.
IS THERE A WAY TO DOWNGRADE THE 3.08 SPL SO THAT I CAN USE THE LOKIWIZ02 OR LOKIWIZ03. I saw a thred saying that 3.08 can't be downloaded but I also saw SEVERAL saying to just keep insisting with the Button rom that it will eventually work (but after almost 15 consecutive tries I've had it).
Any help would be GREAT.
thanks
MGF
IPL 1.01
SPL 3.08
GSM 1.12.10
OS 1.5.4.2

Button ROM doesn't work for that. I tried numerous times too. The only ROMs that work to downgrade to anything else from 3.08 are the OEM releases from either T-Mo or AT&T.
The Cingular ROM isn't accepted because it checks the OS version number. I had to try several peoples' ROMs until I found one with a low enough version number to where the Cingular ROm could flash on top of it.

Try to flash T-Mobile 2.26 to bring it down to ipl/spl 2,26 then go for button's 1.05,hope it'll do the trick.
Good luck
p.s. you can try the wizard_love_Rom also,lol

I want to downgrade my phone, too. but the original T-Mobile AKU2.0 say while reading the phones ROM-Version "only update"... so, with this no downgrade is possible.
How can i CID unlock with AKU3? I want to flash a new ROM from xda-developer as well... damn
Regards
Thomas

You could probably extract the nk.nbf and use the standard tools to flash it.
The nk.nbf can usually be found in a .tmp folder in c:\documents and settings\yourname\Local Settings\Temp

Thanx for your Hint... but which "Standard-Tool" should i use?
Sorry for this silly question, but i am new in experience with my vario

imate kjam
hello, i am new enterent on this forum and need help for, have imate kjam G3 IPL/SPL 1.xx os 1.1.9.3 device and i want to upgrade with latest WM 5 SE 3.8.2.1. Can i upgrade this OS without facing any prb i.e CID/sim locked prb??? kindly adivice to me what is the right way to upgrade my imate kjam (t-mobile) thank you.
best regards
farry

Unless you are using official kjam update, otherwise please CID unlock your G3 device first, or you will face problems.

thank u for advice, but how to CID unlock first before upgrade the rom, any tool for apply to unlock?? plz help
regards
farry