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Before I try the upgrade I just wanted to get a couple of clarifications. It is simply a "one click" process of running the executable? Of course I assume the phone needs to be connected.
I downloaded a file from the FTP site that I believe is the latest and greatest but I would really rather not fry my phone. <G>
Also, assuming everything goes okay will I loose any of my programs, and contacts?
From the folks that have had trouble, is there any kind of consensus of what cuased their problems? In other words should I avoid doing it if I've seen what with my 8125?
Thanks all,
Dave.......
Make absolutely sure you unlock your CID and sim using Lokiwiz before you upgrade to any ROM.
There's a couple of different ROMs out there as well, so make sure you read their respective threads and see what other people's experiences are with them. Summiter's ROMs are top notch, but make sure you grab the one with the features you are looking for.
In general, AKU2 ROMs are much more stable than your stock 8125's ROM. Most importantly, test all the important functionality (WiFi, Bluetooth, GPRS, etc.) before you start loading apps on your device.
Enjoy!
GliTCH82 said:
Make absolutely sure you unlock your CID and sim using Lokiwiz before you upgrade to any ROM.
There's a couple of different ROMs out there as well, so make sure you read their respective threads and see what other people's experiences are with them. Summiter's ROMs are top notch, but make sure you grab the one with the features you are looking for.
In general, AKU2 ROMs are much more stable than your stock 8125's ROM. Most importantly, test all the important functionality (WiFi, Bluetooth, GPRS, etc.) before you start loading apps on your device.
Enjoy!
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I'm thinking I might just ought to wait until the "official ROM" comes out. Seeing as how I have no idea what you mean by "unlocking your CID" means. <G>
I'm sure it's here in the threads but all this makes me a little nervous. I'm no stranger to all this tech stuff but should I fry my phone it would be hard to justify to the wife that I need to spend $500.00 on another one.
Absolutely. If you don't feel comfortable with the process, then it's best to wait until an official update is released so that you can go right back to the store and get a replacement if something goes wrong.
I just upgraded my 8125 and I don't know what CID means nor did I unlocc it. Its was very simple, just a few cliccs (I think about 4). It only took about 5mins and wow so many more features and better stability then how I recieve my 8125. I used one of the official Roms myself.
Hey I am about to do the update myself. I was wondering if someone could answer a few questions for me.
1.) I see it says when you do the update all the programs need to be reinstalled. Does that mean even the programs that originally came with the phone? Like the calc, and excel? Or just the programs that you installed on your own.
2.) I am mainly interested in the overclocking, and having push email work, and stereo bluetooth. Which rom should i use? there are so many out there now, it can get a bit confusing, and i dont want to use the wrong one. Is there a place you can go to look at the features of each one?
3.) what is the best push email client to use? i am using express mail now, but i am not liking it at all.
Thanks in advance i am loving this forum, and i hope to get my phone up and running soone
1. No. Everything you started with should be there again. Just updated software.
2. As far as OC and Stereo BT. The are specificied on the installer files. Not sure about the Push Email.
3. Haven't used this feature yet.
I did the AKU2 upgrade ROM for the 8125 and I do not see what all the new features are.
Can someone delineate all of the upgraded features for me?
I do notice the new screen for the Connection Manager, but all of the choices seem to be the same.
Thanks
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I saw a new screen when just doing the rom. I have no idea what the Extended Rom thing does. I would like to know aswell
Zaiaku said:
I saw a new screen when just doing the rom. I have no idea what the Extended Rom thing does. I would like to know aswell
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The basic 2.17 ROM is just a simple AKU 2 ROM customized for Cingular users. Think of an AKU as a service pack. Microsoft updated some core OS files, and in the case of AKU 2 also included Direct Push and the remote wipe features. Cingular has been dragging their feet in getting an AKU 2 ROM out, hence the homegrown ROMs available here.
The other 2.17 ROMs are built on the basic version, but have additional features as indicated in the file name.
CF2 is Compact Framework 2 and is essentially some .Net components shrunk for mobile devices. Some applications require CF2. CF1 was already included in WIndows Mobile 5, I added CF2 so folks wouldn't need to install it into the limited program storage space.
Themes and ringers are obvious - I added more of them.
A2DP/AVRCP is stereo over Bluetooth, and remote control over Bluetooth. It's used for wireless stereo headphones.
OmapClock is a CPU overclocking utility that allows for specifying a higher or lower clock speed for the CPU. It can help in situations where an application requires more horespower. I added shortcut links with 3 common clock speeds to make overclocking easier. The shortcuts can be assigned to hardware buttons.
Hope this helps.
After a couple month I remember tuatara will lounch a new ROM....
I still waiting of that
cheers
indra9110
Tuatara is busy, but he is giving advice to the current devs. The latest Helmi are pretty impressive in terms of performance.
XDA Devs are much more cooperative than competitive, the knowledge is shared here, and everyone wins.
YES.... i think is not competition to make a ROM .. but everybody share to make the best for all of us
cheers
indra9110
Just to be a little more helpful:
If you just want a working ROM, you'd better go with one of the Helmi ROMs.
BUT, if you want to roll-your-own, adding custom software packages you want to it, your choice is Bepe ROM kitchen.
I believe Bepe is about to release package version 1.3 of his ROM Kitchen soon, so you might want to monitor the Topic and wait for that.
If you just want a working, stable, fast ROM with just a few niggles pending, you will want to choose 1 of the 2 available Helmi ROMs:
Helmi 1.3.2, or Helmi 1.1.2.
Helmi 1.3.2 is based on AKU 3.2, which is the newest windows AKU available. the problem is that some packages have compatibility issues with it.
Helmi 1.1.2 is based on AKU 2.6, which is a little bit older, but more compatible with existing software (e.g: Microsoft Voice Commander). Most nice stuff is available here. (push mail is a feature added in AKU 2.3 for example).
Both ROMs a pretty much in sync when it comes to performance tweaks and bugfixes.
Brazilian Joe said:
Just to be a little more helpful:
If you just want a working ROM, you'd better go with one of the Helmi ROMs.
BUT, if you want to roll-your-own, adding custom software packages you want to it, your choice is Bepe ROM kitchen.
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Excellent advice! I've (as said) been very busy with 'Real Life(tm)' things, which has kept me from the ROM Editing world for quite some time. I do plan to get into this very soon, as I do want "the latest and greatest" on both my BA and Himalaya ...
My 'plan' (if it can be called that) is to merely "enhance" the capabilities and amazing progress which Bepe and Helmi have made with the ROMs (with the help of everyone here!) - in working more from a ROM Kitchen end of the spectrum, as I prefer to "roll my own ROM".
I'm first going to look at the tookit chain, and see how that can be improved and enhanced to handle error conditions, compression considerations (IMGFS / UPX), and ROM Space allocation calculations. At present the ROM Toolkit is a bit 'try and see', and I'd like to make it more "go, no go". A bit of creative application development and I couldn't see why it can't run many times faster, with much better error reporting - especially for assembly processing, registry collisions, or package issues.
My additional goal would be a solid "base OS" from which all packages - including the AKU support, and OEM elements, could be readily added - and possibly adding a "auto-run" or "auto-install" section (like a mini-EXTROM - just built-in), maybe adding "ROM Based Owner Info", and some other ideas I've had. This would permit everyone to build their own private & custom ROM, and would utilise/gain the sum-total knowledge from all the XDA-Developers. :-D
Now ... all I need is time. ;-)
we are waiting foк you Tuatara, and hope this great moment will happens soon
may be just add 16mb Paging with 32mb Ramdisk to 1.4 and BT resume fix? i remember that 1.4 way stable and adding 16mb paging speed it up and all. that will be great.
Hi there!!!
First of all, (just in case somebody wanders who the heck I am), I am regular bloke not particulary interested in any of the parts of developing and cooking ROM-s. Just a user who, (aren't we all), wants to have more stable and faster, (as it is able), os on the Phone.
In the first place, when I've bought the X1, I have been happy for a while, after that I begun to see some disadvantages of that device, (small icons, unresponsive OS, some kind of "its own will" etc), so I refered to this forum. Have been reading for it for a while, and decided to try some of ROM-s You gays are cooking.
And here is keypoint.
Ok, it is meant to be free, so I'm not actualy allowed to moan about any thing here, but...
Some ROM-s are to overloaded with needles features thus rather are slow, some are buggy, some of ROM-s are locked with features that are unable to move out of the OS, (like twitter, facebook, stocks and similar things specially coming with manilla interface).
These things are slowing down devices, (I really do not know why so), so badly that are diverting me, (and I believe others), from using some of Your products.
Instead of, I believe unnecessary thingies, You could cook an clean ROM with
Manilla some kind of , and basic features it gives. Other things could be put in by users.
Or I'm wrong ???
So I decided to put this post with Your, (meaning all users) opinions and to put some critics on same place
Thanks in advance.
I recommend you try Jack 4.x ROM. You can try the lite or medium. Both ROM versions are very stable and fast and you can customize them. You can find them in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543073
Well, I think I am the "typical" guy like you.
Depending on your preferences, I do think you can find what you want and need. It takes, of course, some trials, but the flashing process is fast and easy.
I actually prefer the Manila ROMs because of that very interface. In combination with WinMo 6.1, and without too much other software, you get speed and stability, as you assume. After quite some trials, I stayed with Touch X 10.8.2 because it is fast, not overloaded and stable.
Even the latest 6.5 WinMo variants combined with any version of Manila do not seem to me as fast as the 6.1 ROMs, including the really nice Touch IT Multilanguage, which looks as "clean" as you would get a new Manila device. When I tried it, I liked it very much even though it is slower than Touch X, but the bug I found took me back to Touch X again.
If you are not into Manila at all, there are some "clean" and "pure" WinMo ROMs - no Manila at all - which might offer even more speed than Touch X - I never tried that.
Touch X 10.1
It has an older manila 2.1, very fast and stable. Bugs have all been fixed and it has been around a while. Also has a nice selection of apps included and "it just works".
I am a bit of a flashaholic, but when I need my device to be usable and stable I flash 10.1
Hi everyone,
I'm the (proud?) owner of a HTC Blackstone 'Touch HD', and nowadays I don't know what to think about my phone. Of course, I've done all the flashing and tweaking, but it's still not satisfying me. Although the Blackstone Android development seems very promising to me, I also have my doubts about a 'final' build in the future.
The real problem I have is slow texting, Opera opening slow and I am just dealing with an in-responsive system.
The HTC Touch HD is obviously a very slow phone, having tried different ROMs (Topix, Energy, Miri, Dutty and some more), both Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5. I fell in love for the agenda of 6.5 (the Sense edition, I have no clue if it's implanted in WM), so I don't want to ever go back to 6.1. Though, I realize that, if I want a faster phone, I should probably go back and downgrade my phone. What I am looking for is a ROM which satisfy me with speed and agility (no restarts all the time, because memory is slipping), and can provide me my valuable agenda in a pleasant way.
I would like if some of you could give me some valuable advise. Because I'm about to throw my phone in the trashcan.
Before you are confronting me with some of the greatest ROMs; I'm not 'really' in love with Sense UI, and if turning it off and using the standard WM 6.5 menu, speeds up my phone, I will do it. But is the build-in agenda satisfying enough for my needs?
In the far future I probably will buy an iPhone 3GS (4G?), just for the fact that is a phone which doens't crash and goes slow all the time. I will be throwing a little tweaker inside of me away, sadly.
Regards,
Aram (the Netherlands)
Currently using: Miri WM 6.5 | 18.0 WWE with Manila version 2.5.19222911.0 and Radio version 1.17.25.09 (should I update this?). Using an Exchange-server for my e-mail and agenda (Google Mail)!
Did you try searchig for a Calendar-Agenda Application to install before Upgrading or downgrading your phone's core software? Custom Rom don't bring anything new that Blackstone could do already as it came out of the box, imho. Then again other people do like to customize it a lot. if you do want to bin your phone, send it my way, I'll give it a home.
What I really liked about the WM6.5 roms was and still is the fact that in a single click I can look up my appointments and notes.
You are quite right about the 'why would you flash'-thing. Sometimes I've the feeling that I really downgraded my phone, instead of giving it the boost I intended to.
Again this is an opinionated query which is frowned upon in XDA as people will have different views on which is best creating endless long threads with no real result. For these reasons I am closng this thread
There needs to be a dummies guide to this. I can't make sense of it all. I find literally hundreds of ROMs and then find dozens of builds for each one. I can't take it anymore! All I want is something that removes the bloatware, runs faster than the stock Tilt 2 ROM, doesn't lose any capabilities such as keyboards, etc, lets SPB MS 3.5 run faster, and lets me tether.
Why don't the chef's at least provide a simple list of their ROMs and what they do, what works better and what doesn't work with that particular ROM? I've been digging through this site for two weeks now and I'm not even any closer to knowing what to flash now than when I started. I know from other searches that the Mods tend to close requests like this, but I'm really stumped and I really have tried. I'm not an idiot by any means. I do understand that these are being provided for free and that I should be appreciative....and I am. But it seems to me that even the devs themselves would benefit from this so they wouldn't duplicate each others work and would be able to better track what they are doing.
Anyways, any suggestions for the ROM to do what I want?
kfreels said:
There needs to be a dummies guide to this. I can't make sense of it all. I find literally hundreds of ROMs and then find dozens of builds for each one. I can't take it anymore! All I want is something that removes the bloatware, runs faster than the stock Tilt 2 ROM, doesn't lose any capabilities such as keyboards, etc, lets SPB MS 3.5 run faster, and lets me tether.
Why don't the chef's at least provide a simple list of their ROMs and what they do, what works better and what doesn't work with that particular ROM? I've been digging through this site for two weeks now and I'm not even any closer to knowing what to flash now than when I started. I know from other searches that the Mods tend to close requests like this, but I'm really stumped and I really have tried. I'm not an idiot by any means. I do understand that these are being provided for free and that I should be appreciative....and I am. But it seems to me that even the devs themselves would benefit from this so they wouldn't duplicate each others work and would be able to better track what they are doing.
Anyways, any suggestions for the ROM to do what I want?
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What you do is flash one and see if you like it. If not, it is quite simple to flash another.
Try the Titanium 2 Jun NRG ROM and see what you think. It has no Sense version at all, which increases the storage memory size.
http://www.fileserve.com/list/X9nQc65
EDIT: I am assuming that you have read the "Flashing for NOOB" and the "Hard SPL" threads, you need both to be able to flash a custom ROM.
I have pretty much tried all of the ROMs but I reallly like only 2 ROMs. The best one for me is Cell Evo V7 (23541) (the link to thread. I have just flashed Josh's ROM. n i havent had any problem yet. I use the Sense 2.1. (its in my sig) I think 2.5 is still very buggy. so that maybe somethin u may wanna try out. I think the evo one is the most stable! but this is all just my own opinion. u may or may not like them!
Thanks for the tips. I have read the pages you mentioned and I understand that flashing in itself is a simple process. But for me, it's not just the flashing. I have to flash, install SPB MS and all of my apps, setup my weather, my exchange server and sync my contacts, configure active-sync, apply all my tweaks and then the phone is ready to use. Then if I don't like a ROM because it is slow or buggy, I'll have to do it all again......
At least that's how I picture it. Now if you are telling me that I don't have to go through all that each time, then I'll be a happy camper, but I suspect I am right on this.
What is a "sense" version that you are referring to?
Also, if you could explain the difference between a light, full and normal build that would be nice.
And what the deal is with finding matching "radios" whatever that is about.
And what is a "manila"?
And the problem with keyboards???? Do most ROMS have trouble using the keyboard? What other issues might I encounter while trying to use the normal functions of the device?
There's a lot of jargon here and I just don't see a single place that explains it all.
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Thanks for the tips. I have read the pages you mentioned and I understand that flashing in itself is a simple process. But for me, it's not just the flashing. I have to flash, install SPB MS and all of my apps, setup my weather, my exchange server and sync my contacts, configure active-sync, apply all my tweaks and then the phone is ready to use. Then if I don't like a ROM because it is slow or buggy, I'll have to do it all again......
At least that's how I picture it. Now if you are telling me that I don't have to go through all that each time, then I'll be a happy camper, but I suspect I am right on this.
What is a "sense" version that you are referring to?
Also, if you could explain the difference between a light, full and normal build that would be nice.
And what the deal is with finding matching "radios" whatever that is about.
And what is a "manila"?
And the problem with keyboards???? Do most ROMS have trouble using the keyboard? What other issues might I encounter while trying to use the normal functions of the device?
There's a lot of jargon here and I just don't see a single place that explains it all.
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Manilla = Sense. "Sense" is the name that HTC uses for their UI. There are two major versions, 2.1 and 2.5 (newest). There is also an older UI called TF3D (TouchFlo 3D).
Matching radios refers to flashing your radio with different firmware. The device has ROM versions, which is what everyone is referring to, and the Radio has a different version. Some people prefer a certain radio, some ROMs recommend a certain radio. I'm using NRG, and have never updated my radio version.
Keyboards. Most ROMS will not automatically map your keyboard (AT&T and T-Mobile have different mappings - the exception is a ROM built for a specific carrier). The reason is simple - the Chef doesn't know what carrier you are using! On the NRG ROMs, there is a tool included to "provision" your device for your carrier; this fixes the keyboard. Or you can do a search and find the right keyboard .cab file for your device.
- Light, medium, and full. I personally don't use these terms, but my definition would be as follows. Light is a ROM that has very little added functionality other than what Microsoft provided with the operating system. Full is a ROM (like NRG) that has lots of custom stuff baked into the ROM - extra utilities and etc., which are useful to you (in the Chef's opinion). A medium would be somewhere in between.
I would include the stock ROM as a "Full" ROM, except that in their case a lot of their software is "bloatware", which means stuff they added because they could, or they had some kind of deal with a particular company, etc. It is called "bloatware" because it seems to serve only the purpose of making the ROM harder to use and cluttering up the menu system with lots of useless stuff - bloated.
Are you a happier camper?
two of your best bets are gonna be the
e2 rom and the nrg version of your choise
e2 rom is almost exatly like the att stock but a lot sexier
jdm_labrat said:
two of your best bets are gonna be the
e2 rom and the nrg version of your choise
e2 rom is almost exatly like the att stock but a lot sexier
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Umm, speaking personally, I'm not sure I want a "sexy" TP2!
Ah. That explains a lot. Thanks for the info. Maybe one day when I'm no longer a dummy I'll write a dummies guide. Until then, thanks for the tips.
Hi,
I had the same problem as you, I just wanted a stock rom without all the extra stuff that htc provides, I wanted to be simple, fast and stable, after flashing a lot of ROM I decided to take the problem in my own hands so I started learning how to cook my own ROM, you have a very good guide about how to do that here.
After reading and understanding this guide you can create your own ROMs just the way you like it.
Maybe just like me you will not succeed for the first time, but in the end you will have a ROM cooked by you and will suite all your needs.
Good luck!