After a couple month I remember tuatara will lounch a new ROM....
I still waiting of that
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indra9110
Tuatara is busy, but he is giving advice to the current devs. The latest Helmi are pretty impressive in terms of performance.
XDA Devs are much more cooperative than competitive, the knowledge is shared here, and everyone wins.
YES.... i think is not competition to make a ROM .. but everybody share to make the best for all of us
cheers
indra9110
Just to be a little more helpful:
If you just want a working ROM, you'd better go with one of the Helmi ROMs.
BUT, if you want to roll-your-own, adding custom software packages you want to it, your choice is Bepe ROM kitchen.
I believe Bepe is about to release package version 1.3 of his ROM Kitchen soon, so you might want to monitor the Topic and wait for that.
If you just want a working, stable, fast ROM with just a few niggles pending, you will want to choose 1 of the 2 available Helmi ROMs:
Helmi 1.3.2, or Helmi 1.1.2.
Helmi 1.3.2 is based on AKU 3.2, which is the newest windows AKU available. the problem is that some packages have compatibility issues with it.
Helmi 1.1.2 is based on AKU 2.6, which is a little bit older, but more compatible with existing software (e.g: Microsoft Voice Commander). Most nice stuff is available here. (push mail is a feature added in AKU 2.3 for example).
Both ROMs a pretty much in sync when it comes to performance tweaks and bugfixes.
Brazilian Joe said:
Just to be a little more helpful:
If you just want a working ROM, you'd better go with one of the Helmi ROMs.
BUT, if you want to roll-your-own, adding custom software packages you want to it, your choice is Bepe ROM kitchen.
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Excellent advice! I've (as said) been very busy with 'Real Life(tm)' things, which has kept me from the ROM Editing world for quite some time. I do plan to get into this very soon, as I do want "the latest and greatest" on both my BA and Himalaya ...
My 'plan' (if it can be called that) is to merely "enhance" the capabilities and amazing progress which Bepe and Helmi have made with the ROMs (with the help of everyone here!) - in working more from a ROM Kitchen end of the spectrum, as I prefer to "roll my own ROM".
I'm first going to look at the tookit chain, and see how that can be improved and enhanced to handle error conditions, compression considerations (IMGFS / UPX), and ROM Space allocation calculations. At present the ROM Toolkit is a bit 'try and see', and I'd like to make it more "go, no go". A bit of creative application development and I couldn't see why it can't run many times faster, with much better error reporting - especially for assembly processing, registry collisions, or package issues.
My additional goal would be a solid "base OS" from which all packages - including the AKU support, and OEM elements, could be readily added - and possibly adding a "auto-run" or "auto-install" section (like a mini-EXTROM - just built-in), maybe adding "ROM Based Owner Info", and some other ideas I've had. This would permit everyone to build their own private & custom ROM, and would utilise/gain the sum-total knowledge from all the XDA-Developers. :-D
Now ... all I need is time. ;-)
we are waiting foк you Tuatara, and hope this great moment will happens soon
may be just add 16mb Paging with 32mb Ramdisk to 1.4 and BT resume fix? i remember that 1.4 way stable and adding 16mb paging speed it up and all. that will be great.
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Hi everybody. I know it's been a while since I posted here, and it seems that the Wiki on the WM5 BA hasn't been updated in a bit. Could anyone give me a brief summary of the newest ROMs? i.e. Logout, Ivan, TuMa, Helmi, etc?
Just an overview of:
BT stack (Widcomm/Microsoft)
Speed
Reliability/Stability
"Emptiness" of the ROM (i.e. the amount of 3rd party apps installed)
Thanks. And yes, I have read the wiki. Just like I said.
Helmi 3.0 beta 1.1 is the newest. Needs a bit of sweet love for optimizing performance, but is the most advanced one. there are a few cabs to fix a few issues, but bete 1.2 is just around the corner. IMO, If you can, wait for beta 1.2. But if you install it, it will work.
Thanks for the response. What's bluetooth? And how's it speed/stability wise?
for bluetooth in term of file transfering is fine, few ppl have problem with headset. it's a stable rom so far, helmi_c has not tuned for performance for his ROM yet. but well we need a stable rom first, then we can focus on performance.
Nah... Like which stack is it using? (Widcomm VS Microsoft)
the most recent roms are using microsoft stack
So asides from Helmi's ROM, how about the other big hitters? TuMa? Ivan? Logout? ArtZ, was it?
Hey All,
Have there been any other recent ROMs for WM5 on the Blue Angel, other than Helmi's? I'm having problems with them regarding making calls, essentially the device is no longer usable as a phone. See here for a post on it.
Are there any other alternatives I can try? I'd like to avoid the ROM Kitchen if possible as I've already spent large chunks of the past two months producing ROMs for my router and I really don't have the time to learn how to do it for WM5. Unless someone wants to convince me that it'll "just work" with the minimum of hastle?! ;-)
Thanks in advance,
Fraser.
I have been using the LogOut Version (Which is AKU 3.0), but I found it to be somewhat more stable and prettier than the Helmi_C Version... Though the released version does not have the memory change (2 mb instead of the 16mb). So that has to be updated in the ROM itself, but that is just a simple matter of hex editing the rom. And from the post, it seems like you can do that with ease...
Just a thought.
Mobile User Interface for the WM6 Wizard ROM. It's something me and some friends are working on. I don't think it will ever be finished though because we're not clever enough, (LOL, sorry guys)
The idea came up after some ROM Cooking trial, the kitchen release and also Molski.
It's creating a Program like in Windows where one can choose what to include in his or her ROM build and burn it.
Just start with:
*IPL
*Radio
*OS (why not a clean one, none phone related)
*programs and stuff to include
All cabs are available, it's just combining it in a nice UI. This also will decrease the threads on custom builds..
Nice idea....
Vilem said:
Mobile User Interface for the WM6 Wizard ROM. It's something me and some friends are working on. I don't think it will ever be finished though because we're not clever enough, (LOL, sorry guys)
The idea came up after some ROM Cooking trial, the kitchen release and also Molski.
It's creating a Program like in Windows where one can choose what to include in his or her ROM build and burn it.
Just start with:
*IPL
*Radio
*OS (why not a clean one, none phone related)
*programs and stuff to include
All cabs are available, it's just combining it in a nice UI. This also will decrease the threads on custom builds..
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Wonderfull initiative, there are a lot of tools, but a tool to controll them all would be nice
You should also check:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297257
Dutty has programmed a new release of his kitchen..
Looks like he already has done lot of things you are aiming for.
Now it's only compatible to hermes (because of the use of aChef), but I believe it can be transformed to use for a wizard, maybe you guys can work together?
Also this one could come handy too:
bepe's XIPPORT
To replace XIP modules
Best regards,
EqX
Hi gurus,
I'm using a software (designed for my company) working only with netcf1.0. So i cannot use it on Wm6.1.
I have made tests and this software works well only on WM6.0 and less.
So to avoid compilation cost and time, i wish to cook a custom rom like this.
Download kaiser WM6.0 rom : important --> i dont think a WM6.0 jade rom exist
Download Jade WM6.1 rom
replace kaiser drivers with jade drivers
rebuild rom and pray
do you think this can work ?
i know, its a risky business to play with fire
waiting for your opinion about the feasibility of this process
thank you in advance for all your reliable help and feedback
from a developer's point of view:
why not going to get an update of the desired app?
it's quite difficult these days to get 6.0 devices.
NETCF V2 supports NETCF V1 applications with high degree of compatibility.
if it's a clean programmed app, there should be not more to do, than taking the vs2003 project, convert it to a vs2005 project, and run the 2.0 compiler.
I'd rather ask the app's developer for update-costs, than hunting for a ROM with limited functionality (but even more bugs).
ME TOO
I have the same problem with a piece of software for our field engineers, we are a sub contractor and have no control over the software developer. What i have found however is many 6.5 cooked roms work ok
Hi.
I have a HTC TyTN II and would love to nail down what software I should use, and if any of you pros could help me out I would really appreciate it.
My goal is to run the latest [stable/fast] Windows mobile 6.5 release with the highest functioning Android build on top.
From what i've seen my choice is this ROM: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618767 - ahmedfikry wm6.5 light rom v28217
From the thread it seems there aren't any glaring bugs. This is the latest WM build correct? What is the difference between the 23XXX and 28XXX branches of WM 6.5?
I notice it's a 'light' build which is fine - can you suggest any 'must have' or 'replacement' apps that would improve usability? EG; TouchFLO, a utility to access more settings, a replacement browser[Skyfire/Opera], a utility that automatically closes open programs, program to save battery life - anything like that - I want to avoid 'bloat' like some 'loaded' ROMs have and not have useless duplicate programs, speed and usability is preferred over eye candy [the exception being any great games that run on kaiser ]
Any suggestion on a GPS software that does not require a data plan? I may be limited since i only have a 2GB SD card.
And as far as ANDROID goes I believe i'm looking at the DONUT builds since I want sleep/camera/wifi (don't care about bluetooth) - [is DONUT the build with the most functions?] - which is the 'fastest' / 'lightest' of the DONUT builds that still has the highest amount of features working?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587116 - Hero blend?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613049 - Tattoo?
I apologize in advance if any of my questions were very nooblike, but thank you for your patience!
Moved as not ROM Development.
Thank you for moving my thread to the appropriate subforum, I had posted in the ROM section as I had assumed that most cooks and those familiar with ROM quirks would be browsing that section and be able to answer the questions I had.
This ties in loosely with what I was going to ask, so I'll reply as well. I just inherited a TyTn II from work, needed constant recalibration so I don't know if it has a hardware or a software fault. Software is easier to fix, I just want to throw on a base package with a good app selection. My ideal is to keep it as fast as it can be.
As I understand it, the Kaiser/TyTn II doesn't have enough grunt to run WiMo 6.5 OR Android 2.1 at an acceptable level. Is this correct? From what I have seen, all the cool stuff doesn't yet work on Android, any version. If I wanted to develop for the project, then I'd put Android on, but I want my phone to "just work"... well, as well as a WiMo phone can.
I'm willing to accept WiMo 6.1, maybe with skinning, etc.. heck it's a free phone, just needs a battery, stylus, and maybe a new digitizer and interpreter board(whatever that bit is called). For me and what I do, I'd be after the following stuff:
video/audio player
SSH/PuTTy type shell access
RDP/VNC
GPS mapping, turn by turn stuff
Facebook/Twitter integration/applications
Don't know if any/all of this stuff is included in any of the baked ROM's out there... Have I just missed a nice table of each available ROM, and what it has to offer?
Does Win6.5 / Android really take more horse power?
If so I may consider the latest 'official' 6.1 ROM - but i was hoping that 6.5 actually would be optimized/improved for performance over 6.1.
Here is the deal with WM 6.5 and Android. The Kaiser is an old phone, 2+ years since release, but that translates to 10+ in phone years. There are no " official upgrades " nor will there be. The Kaiser was left behind by the Raphael and even more now by the Rhodium.
All the 6.5 and Android roms on this site are all " cooked " (hacked ) roms , cooked up by various chefs here at XDA. They have taken dumped roms from other phones and have taken out the crap and have added better features . They are faster by virtue of less carrier and HTC crap in them. But they are still " hacked " versions and need to be considered beta versions.
First your phone has to be unlocked and Spl'd. " Jailbroken " if that iis a more familiar term. And then reflashed with the rom of your choice.
Android will not run on the Kaiser, a hacked version must be run off of a partitioned SD card and on top of WM, so naturally it runs a a high resource cost and very tenuously at best.
There are some very nice, fast and stable roms out there to run after you have unlocked your phone, that blow the doors off of any " official " rom. Check the rom dev page for roms with features and looks that interest you. And check peoples signatures for what people are running.
I use stylez black v4 for my everyday rom and jjblasters 6.5 rom when I want to run a " hey look at me and my cool 6.5.3 rom running on a Kaiser " rom
My TyTN II is an unlocked version (from Taiwan) - and i've already experimented with flashing ROM's successfully - just looking what software to choose for my 'final build'
It was my impression that ANDROID didn't run on TOP of WM but was bootloaded from within WM and afterwards WM would be closed? Is this incorrect?
What is the difference between the 23XXX and 28XXX branches of WM 6.5?
Any popular or recommended 'lite' UC packs?
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aznphatb0i said:
My TyTN II is an unlocked version (from Taiwan) - and i've already experimented with flashing ROM's successfully - just looking what software to choose for my 'final build'
It was my impression that ANDROID didn't run on TOP of WM but was bootloaded from within WM and afterwards WM would be closed? Is this incorrect?
What is the difference between the 23XXX and 28XXX branches of WM 6.5?
Any popular or recommended 'lite' UC packs?
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Hey, I can confirm that the 1.6 build is stable and working wine, and yes it boots from the sd card. I have a class 4 card 2gb and it is quite smooth, but they do recommend a class 6 card. So for me there is no performance issue.
As to the wm 6.5 question: I have ahmedfikry's light rom with Opera added, and it is smooth, fast, nice and all that jazz. No worries, the difference between 23xxx and 28xxx i do not know.
Best of luck, much fun to be had.
aznphatb0i said:
It was my impression that ANDROID didn't run on TOP of WM but was bootloaded from within WM and afterwards WM would be closed? Is this incorrect?
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Regarding the abouve question - so I think I am going to 'SD' install Android Polymod 'on top' of ahmedfikry wm6.5 [unless you suggest another ROM meeting my needs] (I don't want to NAND Android until all the features I want are working flawlessly)
There is no speed difference in OS operation between SD an NAND install besides initial boot time correct?
How would you choose to switch between the OS when you have WinMo + an SD Android Installation?
And again any recommendations for a nice UCPack that won't sacrifice any speed / add duplicate functionality bloat?
I've been doing nothing but testing different roms and androids for my Kaiser for the past few days.
Ive also tried both SD and NAND install of Android (polymod).
But I must say that it runs much faster on NAND than SD. (Dunno if my SD card is just slow or not. 4 gb.)
Right now I am using HyperDragon 6.5, Im quite impressed by it.
(This is for all android builds I could find: )
But I do indeed enjoy Android more, but I got some big problems with it.
The battery was drained so much quicker + didn't show real battery status.
And I had various luck dialing. Sometimes it just wouldn't work, which was why I changed back to Winmo.
I haven't tested polymod 2.1d on sd, but its 2x faster with polymod 2.1d on nand than polymod 2.1g on SD.
The one who performed best was Warm Donut, but lacked some stuff.
The battery time was about the same with power savings on. Poor.
Lacking the ability to dial with Android made me change, but I enjoy the OS more than WinMo.
My next phone will be with Android, but thats going to take some time.
hello aznphatb0i
thanks for your message
Kaiser can run wm 6.5 great after being "unlocked" to flash cooked roms
my roms here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618767
i keep cooking the newest & update the links there
are the newest from COM 5 branch with finger friendly user interface (larger bottom bar with start flag on bottom left)
latest now is 23563
there are other COM branchs out there, but i do not cook them, some cause bugs..others from COM2 are new with small bottom bar (older look) but i do not cook them because i like the interface of COM 5 better
My roms are "light" to be fastest & allow most free space.. all additional applications to be added by cabs according to user prefernce
all the links for the cabs & what they do are in the first post in my thread
as for GPS, i use TOM TOM & iGo 8 ...both run fine & loaded on 2 GB card
I do not have much to say about Android, i like windows OS...when Andriod is perfected later I may consider looking into it
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hope this helps