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Im Still waiting for TUMA ROM

After a couple month I remember tuatara will lounch a new ROM....
I still waiting of that
cheers
indra9110

Tuatara is busy, but he is giving advice to the current devs. The latest Helmi are pretty impressive in terms of performance.
XDA Devs are much more cooperative than competitive, the knowledge is shared here, and everyone wins.

YES.... i think is not competition to make a ROM .. but everybody share to make the best for all of us
cheers
indra9110

Just to be a little more helpful:
If you just want a working ROM, you'd better go with one of the Helmi ROMs.
BUT, if you want to roll-your-own, adding custom software packages you want to it, your choice is Bepe ROM kitchen.
I believe Bepe is about to release package version 1.3 of his ROM Kitchen soon, so you might want to monitor the Topic and wait for that.
If you just want a working, stable, fast ROM with just a few niggles pending, you will want to choose 1 of the 2 available Helmi ROMs:
Helmi 1.3.2, or Helmi 1.1.2.
Helmi 1.3.2 is based on AKU 3.2, which is the newest windows AKU available. the problem is that some packages have compatibility issues with it.
Helmi 1.1.2 is based on AKU 2.6, which is a little bit older, but more compatible with existing software (e.g: Microsoft Voice Commander). Most nice stuff is available here. (push mail is a feature added in AKU 2.3 for example).
Both ROMs a pretty much in sync when it comes to performance tweaks and bugfixes.

Brazilian Joe said:
Just to be a little more helpful:
If you just want a working ROM, you'd better go with one of the Helmi ROMs.
BUT, if you want to roll-your-own, adding custom software packages you want to it, your choice is Bepe ROM kitchen.
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Excellent advice! I've (as said) been very busy with 'Real Life(tm)' things, which has kept me from the ROM Editing world for quite some time. I do plan to get into this very soon, as I do want "the latest and greatest" on both my BA and Himalaya ...
My 'plan' (if it can be called that) is to merely "enhance" the capabilities and amazing progress which Bepe and Helmi have made with the ROMs (with the help of everyone here!) - in working more from a ROM Kitchen end of the spectrum, as I prefer to "roll my own ROM".
I'm first going to look at the tookit chain, and see how that can be improved and enhanced to handle error conditions, compression considerations (IMGFS / UPX), and ROM Space allocation calculations. At present the ROM Toolkit is a bit 'try and see', and I'd like to make it more "go, no go". A bit of creative application development and I couldn't see why it can't run many times faster, with much better error reporting - especially for assembly processing, registry collisions, or package issues.
My additional goal would be a solid "base OS" from which all packages - including the AKU support, and OEM elements, could be readily added - and possibly adding a "auto-run" or "auto-install" section (like a mini-EXTROM - just built-in), maybe adding "ROM Based Owner Info", and some other ideas I've had. This would permit everyone to build their own private & custom ROM, and would utilise/gain the sum-total knowledge from all the XDA-Developers. :-D
Now ... all I need is time. ;-)

we are waiting foк you Tuatara, and hope this great moment will happens soon

may be just add 16mb Paging with 32mb Ramdisk to 1.4 and BT resume fix? i remember that 1.4 way stable and adding 16mb paging speed it up and all. that will be great.

So... Windows Mobile 6 is here?

midget_1990_v0_1_vanilla_wm6.rar
I've found this link in the wm5 upgrade forums but without any explanation or comment...
1-What is included in this file?
2-Ripped from which device?
3-Radio compatible with BlueAngel?
4-Every devices may had different hardwares, is that rom had universal H/W
support?
5-Are the Rom makers interesting or working on this rom?
6-Who had test this rom?
7-Which device still use this rom?
8-What is new in this rom?
9-Is there any screenshots here?
10-If someone crash him device when upgrading to this rom, who can help?
11-I know this is not a forum thread but that mean this rom-link not dangerous?
12-Can anybody give some explanations over Windows Mobile 6 (I wrote allways as 6 because this rom is not Windows Mobile 2006 <I've heard somethings on somewhere>)
At the last:
This is the best of Windows Mobile
Powered Devices Fan forum...
This site had very very unique threads, tools, roms, and lots of stuff...
I've BA & use wm5 rom by helmi_c;
what I think about this rom, 3 answers I have:
1-Bluetooth problems with my headset.(msi and motorola h3 too) without BT_Patch. But it's my problem and thats mine choose, i must wait fix. GPS and other BT services works perfect.
2-Wifi problem, sometimes needs to reset. May this problem will never resolve, i can live with this
other side Wifi give beter performance than windows 2k3, really! I think it's come from ram paging pool,
exm: I control my pc with wifi and i can play GTA san andreas from my pda, eheheh, i can show my msn web cam to
my friends
"When they out of my house! range som's 30 m"
but som's pda goes slowing down.I don't know why.
3-Phone sometimes give error while turning on/off flight mode and phone goes to lock while speaking longtimes. But not allways.
now,
There is 5 creators here, and they make wm5 roms whith different roms but they have some problems may the creators can works together and give us a clean wm5 or wm6 rom.
"What a good wish"
Sorry for the long message, but i need some information, may someone can givethis. Because i've belive here.
MANY MANY THANKS READING.

I allready saw too , but it's for Universal, let's hope we will have soon a wm6 for BA

Well they have one for both the Wizard and the Universal now, we just need one for the Blue Angel, come on guys, the suspense is killing us

Will it be possible to port the ROM for BA? 'Cos I saw some post somewhere in 4rum saying it seems impossible???

Will it be possible to port the ROM for BA? 'Cos I saw some post somewhere in 4rum saying it seems impossible???
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that we dont know yet, also because most of BA developers are changing to Universal at the moment. honestly, I dont see that it's gonna happen soon specially without having enough developers working on it.

There is a ROM out for the HTC Universal and HTC Wizard. There is nothing yet for our HTC BA.
I did have a look porting it, but it looks pretty impossible for me to do -I'd never done it before and there is no base ROM at the moment.
Only thing we can hope for is some of those BA gods do a spiffing job on it!! (We know who they are )

Pray that it'll be quite possible!!!
imatrix said:
that we dont know yet, also because most of BA developers are changing to Universal at the moment. honestly, I dont see that it's gonna happen soon specially without having enough developers working on it.
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So sad to hear this. All we need are the base cleaned ROM and relevant tools to edit. But like you said, I guess we may be gonna have to wait for long, if it's really possible.

nht_max said:
So sad to hear this. All we need are the base cleaned ROM and relevant tools to edit. But like you said, I guess we may be gonna have to wait for long, if it's really possible.
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You can edit the crossbow roms with mamaich tools for WM5, but there is more than adding drivers for make WM6 work on BA, the main problem is WM6 core, if someone manage to port it it will work
(Nothing's impossible, but some things are harder to achieve)

xplode said:
You can edit the crossbow roms with mamaich tools for WM5, but there is more than adding drivers for make WM6 work on BA, the main problem is WM6 core, if someone manage to port it it will work
(Nothing's impossible, but some things are harder to achieve)
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totally agree to that xplode, so hurry up, we are all waiting
anyway plz do your best

alternately you COULD try running xbow on top of wm5 core (similar thing was done for OS X on PC's, until recently for that they used 10.4.8 OSX with 10.4.4 kernel) If this works (it should - kernel for WM5 is 5.1.xxxxx, WM6 is 5.2.xxx, only a 0.1 increment) then you could run crossbow just without the core

without the core rom, are we gonna have most functionalities still?

i dont know - im just brainstorming atm
hopefully most of the features will be separate from the core, remember it's still based on CE 5 and only a .1 increment

Hi guys,
I've been looking at the WM6 leaks for Uni and Wiz with a view to getting something running on BA.
The 2 biggest problems are
- the kernel (nk.exe) is compiled per-hardware platform.
so a WM6 kernel exists for universal, and for wizard, but not for BA
the only reason we were able to run WM5 on BA was because of a leaked
kernel for our hardware platform
- the WM6 roms are much larger than wm5 ones
Even a base set of features seems to need careful packaging and some
UPX compression to fit in the BA's 32mb ROM
Even if the WM6 applications and features could be persuaded to run in the existing WM5 kernel, the result could never be really called "WM6".
Without a proper kernel for BA, I doubt it's really worth the effort.

So we all wait for the right kernel, then thing's done. Think that It's gonna be available someday.

That seems im? Possible.
Why?
Some members already try to tell this
bastard reality but it's true.
Core system = kernel structure
must be emulate to BA's H/W.
The kernel softwares especially written for which device will use it.
but we forget a point!
All of Windows Mobile OS's had a SDK
and they have flexible content.
What i mean?
We have 2 problems.
1- Hardware compatibility.
(Drivers and device functions management )
2- OS infrastructure
(Device based shell and kernel api management.)
Explanation:
1-We're already know all of PocketPC devices had different hardwares. We must make or find or emulate current drivers to our BA...
How?
Too hard... it's an engineer work.
Assembly and C knowledge necessary.
But we have a key:
Every Windows Mobile OS kernel versions
written in same way. May we can use
old drivers? may anyone can emulate them.
2-OS integration and device management structure with shell and kernel api's.
Windows OS's allways use API system with 2 types.
1) Shell api ( Interface )
That used for visual and non-visual OS functions. like DirectX api's.
2) Kernel api (Core system)
To use device funcitons,
accesing Processor, RAM, ROM and
others.
Some Windows mobile versions had same hardwares but they managed
with different API's
Why?
I don't know...
what we need?
We must emulate this API's?
How?
Not hard as first problem but not easy too...
I think there is one way.
We try to hardluck, remake and convert old API's to the new ones.
This is illegal and outlaw. Goes to reverse engineering and Bill gates will angry...
Yes that is impossible as first one.
Windows Mobile 5 OS's can be port but at this time no one have so much information about WM6 kernel and shell systemand nobody did make an explanation about WM6 SDK how it's works.
This comments mixed with what i've earned from internet.
If you don't understand...
Think so as;
is Windows98 have transparency windows?
is Windows XP have 3D desktop? or AURA interface?
I CAN SAY CLEARLY:
This is impossible just yet,
may be next times but not at now.
Note: Universal and BA uses smiliar hw than others.
THANKS.

When will crossbow actually be realeased in final version (leaked or non leaked, but a stable version)?(I know we can't tell whether it will be leaked or not!)

Extract App from WM6 Rom

Now that we have a WM6 Rom avaliable for the Wizard, does anyone know how to extract certain programs and replace them in the WM5 Roms??
Particularly the Email client and Remote Desktop
Now you may ask why the he!! don't you just use the WM6 Rom?
Because I am in a corporate environment where I use the program provided by the company to both sync and access my information (Lotus Notes) Intellisync and OneBridge and neither of those have support for the yet to be "Officially Released" WM6
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Well, bad and good news for you. First of all, what you are asking probably will not work. Good news is, you DONT NEED SUPPORT!~!! WM6 is STILL CE5, its just a minor upgrade (like windows 98 to windows98se). So.... most likely your programs will function perfectly. It is very rare when a wm5 program does not function in wm6 and useually those are system tweaking programs. I would make a complete backup of your device and try wm6.... you might be pleasantly surprised.

But moving apps from Crossbow/WinMob 6/5.2 to WinMob 5 isn't as easy and depends on how they were compiled. Most MS stuff won't work without modification I think.
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Can any Kaiser veterans suggest some software?

Hi.
I have a HTC TyTN II and would love to nail down what software I should use, and if any of you pros could help me out I would really appreciate it.
My goal is to run the latest [stable/fast] Windows mobile 6.5 release with the highest functioning Android build on top.
From what i've seen my choice is this ROM: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618767 - ahmedfikry wm6.5 light rom v28217
From the thread it seems there aren't any glaring bugs. This is the latest WM build correct? What is the difference between the 23XXX and 28XXX branches of WM 6.5?
I notice it's a 'light' build which is fine - can you suggest any 'must have' or 'replacement' apps that would improve usability? EG; TouchFLO, a utility to access more settings, a replacement browser[Skyfire/Opera], a utility that automatically closes open programs, program to save battery life - anything like that - I want to avoid 'bloat' like some 'loaded' ROMs have and not have useless duplicate programs, speed and usability is preferred over eye candy [the exception being any great games that run on kaiser ]
Any suggestion on a GPS software that does not require a data plan? I may be limited since i only have a 2GB SD card.
And as far as ANDROID goes I believe i'm looking at the DONUT builds since I want sleep/camera/wifi (don't care about bluetooth) - [is DONUT the build with the most functions?] - which is the 'fastest' / 'lightest' of the DONUT builds that still has the highest amount of features working?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587116 - Hero blend?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613049 - Tattoo?
I apologize in advance if any of my questions were very nooblike, but thank you for your patience!

Moved as not ROM Development.

Thank you for moving my thread to the appropriate subforum, I had posted in the ROM section as I had assumed that most cooks and those familiar with ROM quirks would be browsing that section and be able to answer the questions I had.

This ties in loosely with what I was going to ask, so I'll reply as well. I just inherited a TyTn II from work, needed constant recalibration so I don't know if it has a hardware or a software fault. Software is easier to fix, I just want to throw on a base package with a good app selection. My ideal is to keep it as fast as it can be.
As I understand it, the Kaiser/TyTn II doesn't have enough grunt to run WiMo 6.5 OR Android 2.1 at an acceptable level. Is this correct? From what I have seen, all the cool stuff doesn't yet work on Android, any version. If I wanted to develop for the project, then I'd put Android on, but I want my phone to "just work"... well, as well as a WiMo phone can.
I'm willing to accept WiMo 6.1, maybe with skinning, etc.. heck it's a free phone, just needs a battery, stylus, and maybe a new digitizer and interpreter board(whatever that bit is called). For me and what I do, I'd be after the following stuff:
video/audio player
SSH/PuTTy type shell access
RDP/VNC
GPS mapping, turn by turn stuff
Facebook/Twitter integration/applications
Don't know if any/all of this stuff is included in any of the baked ROM's out there... Have I just missed a nice table of each available ROM, and what it has to offer?

Does Win6.5 / Android really take more horse power?
If so I may consider the latest 'official' 6.1 ROM - but i was hoping that 6.5 actually would be optimized/improved for performance over 6.1.

Here is the deal with WM 6.5 and Android. The Kaiser is an old phone, 2+ years since release, but that translates to 10+ in phone years. There are no " official upgrades " nor will there be. The Kaiser was left behind by the Raphael and even more now by the Rhodium.
All the 6.5 and Android roms on this site are all " cooked " (hacked ) roms , cooked up by various chefs here at XDA. They have taken dumped roms from other phones and have taken out the crap and have added better features . They are faster by virtue of less carrier and HTC crap in them. But they are still " hacked " versions and need to be considered beta versions.
First your phone has to be unlocked and Spl'd. " Jailbroken " if that iis a more familiar term. And then reflashed with the rom of your choice.
Android will not run on the Kaiser, a hacked version must be run off of a partitioned SD card and on top of WM, so naturally it runs a a high resource cost and very tenuously at best.
There are some very nice, fast and stable roms out there to run after you have unlocked your phone, that blow the doors off of any " official " rom. Check the rom dev page for roms with features and looks that interest you. And check peoples signatures for what people are running.
I use stylez black v4 for my everyday rom and jjblasters 6.5 rom when I want to run a " hey look at me and my cool 6.5.3 rom running on a Kaiser " rom

My TyTN II is an unlocked version (from Taiwan) - and i've already experimented with flashing ROM's successfully - just looking what software to choose for my 'final build'
It was my impression that ANDROID didn't run on TOP of WM but was bootloaded from within WM and afterwards WM would be closed? Is this incorrect?
What is the difference between the 23XXX and 28XXX branches of WM 6.5?
Any popular or recommended 'lite' UC packs?

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aznphatb0i said:
My TyTN II is an unlocked version (from Taiwan) - and i've already experimented with flashing ROM's successfully - just looking what software to choose for my 'final build'
It was my impression that ANDROID didn't run on TOP of WM but was bootloaded from within WM and afterwards WM would be closed? Is this incorrect?
What is the difference between the 23XXX and 28XXX branches of WM 6.5?
Any popular or recommended 'lite' UC packs?
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Hey, I can confirm that the 1.6 build is stable and working wine, and yes it boots from the sd card. I have a class 4 card 2gb and it is quite smooth, but they do recommend a class 6 card. So for me there is no performance issue.
As to the wm 6.5 question: I have ahmedfikry's light rom with Opera added, and it is smooth, fast, nice and all that jazz. No worries, the difference between 23xxx and 28xxx i do not know.
Best of luck, much fun to be had.

aznphatb0i said:
It was my impression that ANDROID didn't run on TOP of WM but was bootloaded from within WM and afterwards WM would be closed? Is this incorrect?
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Regarding the abouve question - so I think I am going to 'SD' install Android Polymod 'on top' of ahmedfikry wm6.5 [unless you suggest another ROM meeting my needs] (I don't want to NAND Android until all the features I want are working flawlessly)
There is no speed difference in OS operation between SD an NAND install besides initial boot time correct?
How would you choose to switch between the OS when you have WinMo + an SD Android Installation?
And again any recommendations for a nice UCPack that won't sacrifice any speed / add duplicate functionality bloat?

I've been doing nothing but testing different roms and androids for my Kaiser for the past few days.
Ive also tried both SD and NAND install of Android (polymod).
But I must say that it runs much faster on NAND than SD. (Dunno if my SD card is just slow or not. 4 gb.)
Right now I am using HyperDragon 6.5, Im quite impressed by it.
(This is for all android builds I could find: )
But I do indeed enjoy Android more, but I got some big problems with it.
The battery was drained so much quicker + didn't show real battery status.
And I had various luck dialing. Sometimes it just wouldn't work, which was why I changed back to Winmo.
I haven't tested polymod 2.1d on sd, but its 2x faster with polymod 2.1d on nand than polymod 2.1g on SD.
The one who performed best was Warm Donut, but lacked some stuff.
The battery time was about the same with power savings on. Poor.
Lacking the ability to dial with Android made me change, but I enjoy the OS more than WinMo.
My next phone will be with Android, but thats going to take some time.

hello aznphatb0i
thanks for your message
Kaiser can run wm 6.5 great after being "unlocked" to flash cooked roms
my roms here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618767
i keep cooking the newest & update the links there
are the newest from COM 5 branch with finger friendly user interface (larger bottom bar with start flag on bottom left)
latest now is 23563
there are other COM branchs out there, but i do not cook them, some cause bugs..others from COM2 are new with small bottom bar (older look) but i do not cook them because i like the interface of COM 5 better
My roms are "light" to be fastest & allow most free space.. all additional applications to be added by cabs according to user prefernce
all the links for the cabs & what they do are in the first post in my thread
as for GPS, i use TOM TOM & iGo 8 ...both run fine & loaded on 2 GB card
I do not have much to say about Android, i like windows OS...when Andriod is perfected later I may consider looking into it
if you like my work & appreciate the time & effort i put into this...please DONATE by clicking the link below in my signature
hope this helps

ROM without HTC applications?

Is there a ROM for Blackstone without any HTC application?
Besides the FM Radio application I found most of them annoying/performance degrading. Manila (IMHO) is a beast in terms of resource consumption, it's the first thing I disable after flashing. I'd like to install my own replacements for them, but they seem to be everywhere, starting from the notification bar to the messaging system and such.
I'm interested in both 21895 and 23544 versions, if anyone knows of such ROM please direct me to them. I found some Lite versions on the wiki page, but they are rather old (build 21051) and I'd like something more recent.
Thanks

Here is a Light ROM without the most HTC staff deletet. (But it's a german ROM)
http://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=5662
Mark....

Umm... I really intend learning german in the following months, but I'm not prepared to deal with a OS in german right now
I would be great if chefs realeased their kitchens/config files (some sort of open-source), that way I could build myself a custom ROM. Starting from scratch is a little bit too much for me to handle.