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So... Windows Mobile 6 is here?

midget_1990_v0_1_vanilla_wm6.rar
I've found this link in the wm5 upgrade forums but without any explanation or comment...
1-What is included in this file?
2-Ripped from which device?
3-Radio compatible with BlueAngel?
4-Every devices may had different hardwares, is that rom had universal H/W
support?
5-Are the Rom makers interesting or working on this rom?
6-Who had test this rom?
7-Which device still use this rom?
8-What is new in this rom?
9-Is there any screenshots here?
10-If someone crash him device when upgrading to this rom, who can help?
11-I know this is not a forum thread but that mean this rom-link not dangerous?
12-Can anybody give some explanations over Windows Mobile 6 (I wrote allways as 6 because this rom is not Windows Mobile 2006 <I've heard somethings on somewhere>)
At the last:
This is the best of Windows Mobile
Powered Devices Fan forum...
This site had very very unique threads, tools, roms, and lots of stuff...
I've BA & use wm5 rom by helmi_c;
what I think about this rom, 3 answers I have:
1-Bluetooth problems with my headset.(msi and motorola h3 too) without BT_Patch. But it's my problem and thats mine choose, i must wait fix. GPS and other BT services works perfect.
2-Wifi problem, sometimes needs to reset. May this problem will never resolve, i can live with this
other side Wifi give beter performance than windows 2k3, really! I think it's come from ram paging pool,
exm: I control my pc with wifi and i can play GTA san andreas from my pda, eheheh, i can show my msn web cam to
my friends
"When they out of my house! range som's 30 m"
but som's pda goes slowing down.I don't know why.
3-Phone sometimes give error while turning on/off flight mode and phone goes to lock while speaking longtimes. But not allways.
now,
There is 5 creators here, and they make wm5 roms whith different roms but they have some problems may the creators can works together and give us a clean wm5 or wm6 rom.
"What a good wish"
Sorry for the long message, but i need some information, may someone can givethis. Because i've belive here.
MANY MANY THANKS READING.

I allready saw too , but it's for Universal, let's hope we will have soon a wm6 for BA

Well they have one for both the Wizard and the Universal now, we just need one for the Blue Angel, come on guys, the suspense is killing us

Will it be possible to port the ROM for BA? 'Cos I saw some post somewhere in 4rum saying it seems impossible???

Will it be possible to port the ROM for BA? 'Cos I saw some post somewhere in 4rum saying it seems impossible???
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that we dont know yet, also because most of BA developers are changing to Universal at the moment. honestly, I dont see that it's gonna happen soon specially without having enough developers working on it.

There is a ROM out for the HTC Universal and HTC Wizard. There is nothing yet for our HTC BA.
I did have a look porting it, but it looks pretty impossible for me to do -I'd never done it before and there is no base ROM at the moment.
Only thing we can hope for is some of those BA gods do a spiffing job on it!! (We know who they are )

Pray that it'll be quite possible!!!
imatrix said:
that we dont know yet, also because most of BA developers are changing to Universal at the moment. honestly, I dont see that it's gonna happen soon specially without having enough developers working on it.
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So sad to hear this. All we need are the base cleaned ROM and relevant tools to edit. But like you said, I guess we may be gonna have to wait for long, if it's really possible.

nht_max said:
So sad to hear this. All we need are the base cleaned ROM and relevant tools to edit. But like you said, I guess we may be gonna have to wait for long, if it's really possible.
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You can edit the crossbow roms with mamaich tools for WM5, but there is more than adding drivers for make WM6 work on BA, the main problem is WM6 core, if someone manage to port it it will work
(Nothing's impossible, but some things are harder to achieve)

xplode said:
You can edit the crossbow roms with mamaich tools for WM5, but there is more than adding drivers for make WM6 work on BA, the main problem is WM6 core, if someone manage to port it it will work
(Nothing's impossible, but some things are harder to achieve)
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totally agree to that xplode, so hurry up, we are all waiting
anyway plz do your best

alternately you COULD try running xbow on top of wm5 core (similar thing was done for OS X on PC's, until recently for that they used 10.4.8 OSX with 10.4.4 kernel) If this works (it should - kernel for WM5 is 5.1.xxxxx, WM6 is 5.2.xxx, only a 0.1 increment) then you could run crossbow just without the core

without the core rom, are we gonna have most functionalities still?

i dont know - im just brainstorming atm
hopefully most of the features will be separate from the core, remember it's still based on CE 5 and only a .1 increment

Hi guys,
I've been looking at the WM6 leaks for Uni and Wiz with a view to getting something running on BA.
The 2 biggest problems are
- the kernel (nk.exe) is compiled per-hardware platform.
so a WM6 kernel exists for universal, and for wizard, but not for BA
the only reason we were able to run WM5 on BA was because of a leaked
kernel for our hardware platform
- the WM6 roms are much larger than wm5 ones
Even a base set of features seems to need careful packaging and some
UPX compression to fit in the BA's 32mb ROM
Even if the WM6 applications and features could be persuaded to run in the existing WM5 kernel, the result could never be really called "WM6".
Without a proper kernel for BA, I doubt it's really worth the effort.

So we all wait for the right kernel, then thing's done. Think that It's gonna be available someday.

That seems im? Possible.
Why?
Some members already try to tell this
bastard reality but it's true.
Core system = kernel structure
must be emulate to BA's H/W.
The kernel softwares especially written for which device will use it.
but we forget a point!
All of Windows Mobile OS's had a SDK
and they have flexible content.
What i mean?
We have 2 problems.
1- Hardware compatibility.
(Drivers and device functions management )
2- OS infrastructure
(Device based shell and kernel api management.)
Explanation:
1-We're already know all of PocketPC devices had different hardwares. We must make or find or emulate current drivers to our BA...
How?
Too hard... it's an engineer work.
Assembly and C knowledge necessary.
But we have a key:
Every Windows Mobile OS kernel versions
written in same way. May we can use
old drivers? may anyone can emulate them.
2-OS integration and device management structure with shell and kernel api's.
Windows OS's allways use API system with 2 types.
1) Shell api ( Interface )
That used for visual and non-visual OS functions. like DirectX api's.
2) Kernel api (Core system)
To use device funcitons,
accesing Processor, RAM, ROM and
others.
Some Windows mobile versions had same hardwares but they managed
with different API's
Why?
I don't know...
what we need?
We must emulate this API's?
How?
Not hard as first problem but not easy too...
I think there is one way.
We try to hardluck, remake and convert old API's to the new ones.
This is illegal and outlaw. Goes to reverse engineering and Bill gates will angry...
Yes that is impossible as first one.
Windows Mobile 5 OS's can be port but at this time no one have so much information about WM6 kernel and shell systemand nobody did make an explanation about WM6 SDK how it's works.
This comments mixed with what i've earned from internet.
If you don't understand...
Think so as;
is Windows98 have transparency windows?
is Windows XP have 3D desktop? or AURA interface?
I CAN SAY CLEARLY:
This is impossible just yet,
may be next times but not at now.
Note: Universal and BA uses smiliar hw than others.
THANKS.

When will crossbow actually be realeased in final version (leaked or non leaked, but a stable version)?(I know we can't tell whether it will be leaked or not!)

Why to upgrade to WM6

Hi, ALL
I have G3 T-Mobile MDA (Wizard), running Wm5 custom ROM from Xelencin and latest Radio ROM.
Also I have installed
SPB Diary, Pocket Plus, Weather, Imageer, Backup
Resco File Explorer
PhotoDialer Plug-in
WM5Storage
MemMaid
Some RSS Reader
iGuidance
MS VoiceCommand 1.5
IMPlus, Skype
Yahoo 2 Go, Google Maps, Live Search
TCPMP
etc
most of these on 2GB miniSD. Everything works. I use most of that from time to time.
I saw faria WM6 ROM. I saw MB Rom, I saw Mun's Rom. My question is - do I need to upgrade to WM6 ? Will it add something, which probably I'm missing ?
Or it is just to have latest Windows Mobile OS ?
Second big question - will my apps work with WM6 ?

Also if moderators think this question belongs to Wizard Mobile 6 forum, can you please move it

bogdatov said:
I saw faria WM6 ROM. I saw MB Rom, I saw Mun's Rom. My question is - do I need to upgrade to WM6 ? Will it add something, which probably I'm missing ?
Or it is just to have latest Windows Mobile OS ?
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Do you need to upgrade? Probably not. I will say that most (not all) of the custom roms will give you more space and will run faster than the stock official roms.
Will add something, which you are probably missing? The quick answer is yes. You are missing the frustration that some of us go through with these . Seriously though, its hard to answer it, but for me I find the custom roms more stable than my original Cingular 2.25, faster, gives me more room on the phone itself, and just more fun to play with (but then I'm a geek).
I can't honestly say why the draw to WM6 other than the geek factor involved and the ability to show friends and coworkers that you are running WM6 (and they don't care anyone or don't even know what you are babbling on about).
I would suggest you at least give Faria's or Molksi's 2.3 and 3.3 ROMs a try even if you aren't interested in WM6. They are VERY nice and stable. But also, understand that you will have to fiddle and tweak with your phone for a day or two to get it back to where you want it.
Second big question - will my apps work with WM6 ?
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I've used Spb Backup, Resco Explorer, WM5torage, Memmaid, MS VoiceCommand 1.6 all on Faria's AKU 3.3, WM6 MBE, and Faria's WM6 "the real thing" and they all work.
I'll defer to others on the rest of your list.

I know you didn't list it but, as you are using other spb products,
spb time doesn't fully work

How did you get Yahoo go 2?

double post

I received email with Yahoo go 2 and there was a link. Just went there and install. Dont remember exactly, but something like that

It's only available for smartphones... You don't happen to have a link/file handy? :d

Yahoo Go 2 for smartphones and pocket pc phones:
This is where I got mines from, they had it as an option when it first came out but now it is hidden and they want your phone information to send it to you.
This link will get you the cab. file and the active sync download.
http://sites.mobile.yahoo.com/go/mobile/getstarted

That link is Yahoo Go 1, which I am running right now.

Remote Desktop Mobile on Kaiser - Any Ideas?

Hi guys, looking for some pointers with this one.
Having usefully used Terminal Services on the TyTN to remote support Windows machines while out in the field, I've upgraded to the Kaiser only to find that not only is the improved Remote Desktop Mobile from WM6 not included in the build, but neither is the previous Terminal Services Client. This is a major problem for me as I don't want to have to carry two devices with me (never mind 2 SIMs and contracts!)
Having searched around it seems that Microsoft decided not to make the inclusion of Remote Desktop Mobile madatory in the build, but to offer it as an option to carriers and manufacturers. It also seems that this is something which none of the carriers has opted for - and definitely not Vodafone UK as in my case.
This really has crashed a major downer onto the otherwise brilliant bit of gear which is the Kaiser.
Has anyone any access to the RDM app for installation onto the Kaiser, or, failing that, an "easy" way to port the old TSC from the TyTN?

Try this... this is a remote desktop prog. for PPC on WM6 devices

Its available in the thread where all cabs are located (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332438), following the big link there will point you to the wm6 remote desktop cab (http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/Kaiser Cab Collections/WM6_RemoteDesktop.cab)

Thanks guys, brilliant work and saved me loads of gief.
(BTW - I did search across the site but couldn't anything - I'll make sure I try harder next time!)

Pocket IE Version on Kaiser - Help Please

Hi All,
Long time reader first time poster.
My company is currently using the Dopod 838 pros for a mobile web app we are developing.
Unfortunately (well deneding on which way you look at it ) but we ordered 50 Dopod 838 pros but they could only fill have the order so we received 23 kaisers insted.
Problem with the Kaiser is that it has IEMobile 7.6 which does not handle AJAX as well as IEMobile 6.12 which comes with the Dopod 838pros.
Is there ANY way I can cook flash or downgrade IE mobile in this rom? or does anyone know of a CAB or Rom anywhere which will help me with this - it is driving me crazy and its critical
Regards,
Mr_Frost

Bumpski
48 Views - anyone have any hints or ideas to point me in the right direction.
Apologies for the bump.
Steve

What is the symptom that the later version of PIE gives?

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What is the symptom that the later version of PIE gives?
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Basically I am trying to run a database online based on the ASP.Net makers generated software.
www.hkvstore.com/aspnetmaker
When I go to click save or cancel on a form - on the Dopod it works fine, on the Kaiser - it wont let me click on it. I have had a ASPX programmer look into it and its because the Kaiser Version handles the functionality different.
Do I need to install AJAX upgraed/ java upgrade for IE on the kaiser or something?

download Opera Browser doesn't help? Maybe Netfront Browser? Did you try those.

I am going to guess that opera will do it fine - but it costs...
Havent heard of an asp patch that will fix PIE.

Opera may be the only way to go... just frustrating
Anyone think installing a 838pro rom onto the kaiser would be a good idea hahah *clutches at straws*
Have tried the other browsers but found them clunky - i still prefer pocket IE for general surfing...

A mobile version of Firefox is about to come out, that (combined with Netfront) very well could force Opera to be free in the not too distant future; maybe even Firefox itself could run the database...
It IS very frustrating that PIE is so picky about things. I've noticed it through the years too, but let me qualify that: i don't program interfaces for it, I just have used it to surf the web over the years.
Good luck!

AJAX fully supported in PIE & has been for quite some time, befroe wm2003se I believe. How are you handling the java?
Mr_Frost said:
Basically I am trying to run a database online based on the ASP.Net makers generated software.
www.hkvstore.com/aspnetmaker
When I go to click save or cancel on a form - on the Dopod it works fine, on the Kaiser - it wont let me click on it. I have had a ASPX programmer look into it and its because the Kaiser Version handles the functionality different.
Do I need to install AJAX upgraed/ java upgrade for IE on the kaiser or something?
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GSLEON3 said:
AJAX fully supported in PIE & has been for quite some time, befroe wm2003se I believe. How are you handling the java?
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I dont know - is there a java update/ fix? I am assuming java is turned on - everything looks fine - its just the onclick/ submit function or something not working on the kaiser.

downgrading to Wm6.0

Hi gurus,
I'm using a software (designed for my company) working only with netcf1.0. So i cannot use it on Wm6.1.
I have made tests and this software works well only on WM6.0 and less.
So to avoid compilation cost and time, i wish to cook a custom rom like this.
Download kaiser WM6.0 rom : important --> i dont think a WM6.0 jade rom exist
Download Jade WM6.1 rom
replace kaiser drivers with jade drivers
rebuild rom and pray
do you think this can work ?
i know, its a risky business to play with fire
waiting for your opinion about the feasibility of this process
thank you in advance for all your reliable help and feedback

from a developer's point of view:
why not going to get an update of the desired app?
it's quite difficult these days to get 6.0 devices.
NETCF V2 supports NETCF V1 applications with high degree of compatibility.
if it's a clean programmed app, there should be not more to do, than taking the vs2003 project, convert it to a vs2005 project, and run the 2.0 compiler.
I'd rather ask the app's developer for update-costs, than hunting for a ROM with limited functionality (but even more bugs).

ME TOO
I have the same problem with a piece of software for our field engineers, we are a sub contractor and have no control over the software developer. What i have found however is many 6.5 cooked roms work ok