Hi everybody. I know it's been a while since I posted here, and it seems that the Wiki on the WM5 BA hasn't been updated in a bit. Could anyone give me a brief summary of the newest ROMs? i.e. Logout, Ivan, TuMa, Helmi, etc?
Just an overview of:
BT stack (Widcomm/Microsoft)
Speed
Reliability/Stability
"Emptiness" of the ROM (i.e. the amount of 3rd party apps installed)
Thanks. And yes, I have read the wiki. Just like I said.
Helmi 3.0 beta 1.1 is the newest. Needs a bit of sweet love for optimizing performance, but is the most advanced one. there are a few cabs to fix a few issues, but bete 1.2 is just around the corner. IMO, If you can, wait for beta 1.2. But if you install it, it will work.
Thanks for the response. What's bluetooth? And how's it speed/stability wise?
for bluetooth in term of file transfering is fine, few ppl have problem with headset. it's a stable rom so far, helmi_c has not tuned for performance for his ROM yet. but well we need a stable rom first, then we can focus on performance.
Nah... Like which stack is it using? (Widcomm VS Microsoft)
the most recent roms are using microsoft stack
So asides from Helmi's ROM, how about the other big hitters? TuMa? Ivan? Logout? ArtZ, was it?
Related
After a couple month I remember tuatara will lounch a new ROM....
I still waiting of that
cheers
indra9110
Tuatara is busy, but he is giving advice to the current devs. The latest Helmi are pretty impressive in terms of performance.
XDA Devs are much more cooperative than competitive, the knowledge is shared here, and everyone wins.
YES.... i think is not competition to make a ROM .. but everybody share to make the best for all of us
cheers
indra9110
Just to be a little more helpful:
If you just want a working ROM, you'd better go with one of the Helmi ROMs.
BUT, if you want to roll-your-own, adding custom software packages you want to it, your choice is Bepe ROM kitchen.
I believe Bepe is about to release package version 1.3 of his ROM Kitchen soon, so you might want to monitor the Topic and wait for that.
If you just want a working, stable, fast ROM with just a few niggles pending, you will want to choose 1 of the 2 available Helmi ROMs:
Helmi 1.3.2, or Helmi 1.1.2.
Helmi 1.3.2 is based on AKU 3.2, which is the newest windows AKU available. the problem is that some packages have compatibility issues with it.
Helmi 1.1.2 is based on AKU 2.6, which is a little bit older, but more compatible with existing software (e.g: Microsoft Voice Commander). Most nice stuff is available here. (push mail is a feature added in AKU 2.3 for example).
Both ROMs a pretty much in sync when it comes to performance tweaks and bugfixes.
Brazilian Joe said:
Just to be a little more helpful:
If you just want a working ROM, you'd better go with one of the Helmi ROMs.
BUT, if you want to roll-your-own, adding custom software packages you want to it, your choice is Bepe ROM kitchen.
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Excellent advice! I've (as said) been very busy with 'Real Life(tm)' things, which has kept me from the ROM Editing world for quite some time. I do plan to get into this very soon, as I do want "the latest and greatest" on both my BA and Himalaya ...
My 'plan' (if it can be called that) is to merely "enhance" the capabilities and amazing progress which Bepe and Helmi have made with the ROMs (with the help of everyone here!) - in working more from a ROM Kitchen end of the spectrum, as I prefer to "roll my own ROM".
I'm first going to look at the tookit chain, and see how that can be improved and enhanced to handle error conditions, compression considerations (IMGFS / UPX), and ROM Space allocation calculations. At present the ROM Toolkit is a bit 'try and see', and I'd like to make it more "go, no go". A bit of creative application development and I couldn't see why it can't run many times faster, with much better error reporting - especially for assembly processing, registry collisions, or package issues.
My additional goal would be a solid "base OS" from which all packages - including the AKU support, and OEM elements, could be readily added - and possibly adding a "auto-run" or "auto-install" section (like a mini-EXTROM - just built-in), maybe adding "ROM Based Owner Info", and some other ideas I've had. This would permit everyone to build their own private & custom ROM, and would utilise/gain the sum-total knowledge from all the XDA-Developers. :-D
Now ... all I need is time. ;-)
we are waiting foк you Tuatara, and hope this great moment will happens soon
may be just add 16mb Paging with 32mb Ramdisk to 1.4 and BT resume fix? i remember that 1.4 way stable and adding 16mb paging speed it up and all. that will be great.
What's the BEST ROM OUT THERE?
Criteria:
- Stable
- Works (incl. BT, WiFi, phone, everything!)
- Fast
- Compatible (e.g., most if not all apps will run)
I'm giving my vote to SuperRom 1.1, becouse this is a fastest ROM, also evrything works.
I guess this is as good a place as any:
I've been using (actually, reverting to) Molski 2.26 Final. For people that have used both, what are the positives of SuperROM 1.1?
(for the purposes of discussion, maybe it would make sense to group all of the ROMs as follows: 1) AKU2.X, 2) AKU3.X, and 3) Crossbow... someone post if I have that wrong)
Super ROm 1.1
With this rom, device runs faster but I have a call dropped so I have to go back to Molski 's ROM
My opinion is wm6 its Stable, Works: BT, WiFi; phone, Fast, Compatible: most or some apps will run but barebone at the start, could for some one that wants to add the programs they only like
i've tried molski's, superRom, aku 3.3 crowbow and WM6 and i'm sticking to aku 3.3 for now cuz inspite of the memory leak problem, it's the most comprehensive rom, everything works and pretty fast too
for the superROM, wifi wasn't working..
for WM6, too much to customize to what i want to have.. plus i'm lazy.. so i'm gonna wait for the xda team to come up with a cooked WM6 rom sooner than later
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I'm giving my vote to SuperRom 1.1, becouse this is a fastest ROM, also evrything works.
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does wifi with wpa-psk/tkip work for you?
My Vote was for the AKU3.3 crossbow via Faria, Molski, Dr Put, Kyphur and I think the other one RkWhite.
I had had no problems with it. It is fast stable and just great & light for me.
I like the Wm6 also. But could only vote for the best so 3.3 it is !
liked the molski 2.26, the superrom was striking, but aku 3.3 by the masters of xda-dev blew me away, despite the mem leak i think its the best, and hoping that the issue on the leak be fixed soon
For me the Cingular 2.25 ROM has been gold. Nothing has beaten it yet!
i can download each and every rom from ftp site but can anyone tell me from where i could download wm6 rom!! i m running now aku3.3 rom but i want wm6 rom pls help !!
best rom = aku 3.2 molski.biz
So far, I've installed nearly all roms listed, and here is my feedback :
other : old orange FR AKU1.x and old orange FR B2B AKU2.0 => too slow, many stuff that I don't use and too many stuff to add afterwards
T-mobile 2.26 : only used to get strong IPL/SPL as dscribed in unlocking guide. Same problem as orange roms concerning the stuff provided
Superrom : very fast but CF2 not included and stuff I did'nt use, but very good rom so far
molski 2.26 final 30 mb : very fast. problems with smartskey behaving strangely and some info not displayed (eg. amount of space available on storage or card when installing apps)
AKU 3.3 Xbow : very important memory issue (5 mb free after a few hours running, 3 to 5 SR a day) fast and well-stuffed by the way...i'll go back to it if memory issue becomes fixed
Xbow : not many stuff I use in Rom, so plenty of things to install afterwards, and because MSVC 6 in rom, i could'nt install the french version. As I'm french and using MSVC a lot, not being able to install it was determinig in downgrading to.....
Molski 3.2 30 mb : the best rom so far 4 me, very stable, very fast even with no OC, no problem with smartskey, free ram > 22 mo after 3 days of use w/o reset AND MSVC6 and all my usual stuff work flawlessly.
Molski 3.2 by far the best so far. Absolutly no problems.
WM6 is the fastest but lots of problems...
I can`t wait for a Molski ver of WM6.
AKU3.2_Clean_ZeroXtreme at this moment. It's the fastest and cleanest of the AKU 3.x roms I've found on the site. I don't care for all of the eye candy of the cooked ROM's.
I was using Crossbow for a few days. However, I kept getting battery drain issues and decided I'd had enough. I'll probably try it again shortly for ****s and giggles, because I liked it a lot.
icezar said:
Molski 3.2 by far the best so far. Absolutly no problems.
WM6 is the fastest but lots of problems...
I can`t wait for a Molski ver of WM6.
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Interesting your observations on WM6 ...
The only "problem" I've encountered is SlingBox (which I personally don't use)
Things like HTML email; call history from within my contacts; download attachments actually downloads attachments, saving a step are really cewl and useful.
Just my two cents...
WM6 All the way
I always load all my own apps etc so I like a clean rom.
HTML Mail and the Smart dialler etc are the clinchers for me.
There are lots of little things I find in this rom as I use it that make it way better than WM5. for example when saving a number from your call list WM6 has an option on the top of all your contacts to create a new contact and add the number to that and that when I open the keyboard the SIP stays hidden and does not pop up like on WM5.
Jules
The problems on WM6 were: no MMS, no Camera, battery no more then 1 day, crash, freeze, etc... i tried PDAviet4 (no email sync, no live mail, etc ) and Wi6ard. No aditional software added... Did you use another WM6 ROM?
Those problems i only had on WM6, AKU 2.x and 3.x were fine.
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The problems on WM6 were: no MMS, no Camera, battery no more then 1 day, crash, freeze, etc... i tried PDAviet4 (no email sync, no live mail, etc ) and Wi6ard. No aditional software added... Did you use another WM6 ROM?
Those problems i only had on WM6, AKU 2.x and 3.x were fine.
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MMS can be solved with ARCsoft MMS. Working fine on my imate
Camera fixed - Solution provided by Faria.
for the rest, I am sure that it has to do with the software you use. I didn't notice any dramatic difference in battery life. I can get about 3 days which is about the same as with other roms. I didn't experience ANY crashes or freezes.
The MMS fix did not work and i stop looking, Faria`s camera cab i cannot find... the rom crashed with no soft just using explorer and media player... I realy like the speed and looks of WM6 so i would not downgrade if those problems coud be solved easily.
Faria ROM for now.
I really really liked the "clean" WM6 ROM, but the damn thing kept draining my battery within a day...
Thought I had it working for a day or two, but then the draining began again
Hopefully Molski of Faria will release a proper WM6 ROM, because the WM6 Smart Dialer app is GREAT!
After reading many threads from folks who have done the BA upgrade to WM6 I'd appreciate some learned advice thanks:
1..Is bluetooth and wifi functionality sorted out in the latest ROMs?
2..How much slower is the WM6 cook compared with W2003 - eg lots slower, a tad slower or what?
3..W2003 battery life is not that great and I'd read WM6 managed battery better, but the converse has been reported here in the forums. So is WM6 much more of a hog on battery?
4..In the upgrade there is no mention of Java. Is there a method of having Java on the ROM?
5..Is the O/S basically the same as WM6 eg can we put default Windows skin on desktop or is the cook quite specific dependent of the cooker?
6..Anything else anyone would like to add, as there does not seem to be any similar comparison post here between a non-cooked WM2003 BA and modified one.
Thanks kindly,
Alistair.
Now I've upgraded to sun_dream rom can answer the questions:
1..Seems to be better.
2..ditto
3..ditto
4..Java is included on the ROM - great means I can use Minimo browser.
5..Does not appear to be able to change his default at this time.
6..Anything else anyone would like to add:
Did not resize EXTROM, and still operates a lot better than WM2003SE.
Highly recommended to those who can follow the Wiki.
A few words about the HTC Kaiser:
it has a great design, with many functions. Also good features (GPS, QWERTY keyboard, etc).
But: I now have about 4 WM-devices at home. An Asus P525, an HTC Hermes, an Ipaq 914c, a Sony Xperia X1, and a Kaiser.
And you know which one performs the WORST? It is the Kaiser
And I guess it is due to the Qualcomm CPU. The menus open much slower than on the other ones. The P525 from Asus has a feature to set the CPU to power save/normal/turbo. Even power save is not as bad as the Kaiser.
Also the scrolling in the menus (WM6.5 style) is not as smooth. And yes, I tried all kinds of ROMs (6.1 and 6.5, different builds and chefs as well).
I think I will sell my Kaiser now and avoid Qualcomm CPUs for the future.
Too bad the Hermes has no GPS built-in. Otherwise, I would give it clear preference.
have you tried gfxboost yet?
(search for it on xda!)
ASCIIker said:
have you tried gfxboost yet?
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downloaded and installed it! Thank you! It is way better now, still behind other CPUs but approaching "reasonable".
GFXboost is available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509704
also this thread seems interesting: (June 1st 2009!!!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496528
Now I wonder why almost none of the chefs use gfxboost in their ROMs?
glad to help! htc really did a number with the kaiser (and continues to do so with newer models)...htc makes great hardware but they really need to get their act together with all the driver and software issues and inadequacies...
BUT xda and the geniuses here has been such a wonderful resource to get our devices purring like they should be in the first place when they leave the factory
ALSO, the kaiser is a GREAT machine (as you mentioned)...feel free to tweak it and try out other ROMs...if you are into wm6.1 and manila2d, i highly recommend the ROM i am currently using, with gfxboost added on manually of course (HyperDragon IV Rhodium ROM April 10th, 2009)
regarding ROMs with gfxboost, SOME exist (i think abusalza with his PDACorner ROMs briefly included gfxboost in one of his recent ROMs)
if you're looking for better scrolling, then i hear wm6.5 has builtin scrolling that is better than touchflo and i have read reports that wm6.5 also benefits from gfxboost but you already seem to know most of this, judging from your first post!
Hi guys,
I am getting an X1 in a few days and would like to know opinions on what the most stable 6.5 ROM out there at the moment is. Also some comments about speed and usability compared to stock would be appreciated!
Hopefully others will find this info useful, too, so please keep it civil.
-Oobly
well i think the most stable would be either one of itje's or agent_47's., the ones with manila 2.1 though because the leo versions are still in beta.
one of the best customised would be NRG's. of course being the flashaholic that i am i switch between all three for every new rom thats posted
double post!
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Yeah, I know. Sorry about that, don't know how to delete the other thread.
Try....V-Lite 4.3 by mobilevu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505214
This guy knows his kitchen, ive been using his roms since he started posting his work. I havn't had any problems regarding speed and stability
For me:
NEW V-LITE 4.3 COBALT HARDCORE EDITION FINAL (Stable)
The Energy-ROM with manila 2.1 is very stable and responsive. In my opinion the best, since speed is good for almost every program, many useful tweaks and programs included. I've tried most manila ROMs and found this one the best on all fronts. I must say I haven't tried the V-LITE COBALT yet.
Make sure you don't compare titanium with manila ROMs
And then also make a difference between manila 2.1 and 2.5
V-Lite is a very good non-manila ROM, but stayed on 23004
Valkyrie is state of the art, both with and w/o manila
Energy is eye-candy with some little bumps (video-lag) for Titanium.
Which bumps have you encountered in the Energy ROM if I may ask, haven't found one yet. Even the manila 2.5 is working smooth on most fronts except the SMS app is a little crappy, but I can work with it.
Thanks for the replies guys, keep em coming! The more opinions the better.
I see Agent_47's Valkyrie 2.9 FS has reworked OEM drivers and neo2007 3D drivers. He seems to post fixes pretty quickly in response to bug reports, too.
V-Lite also looks good... apparently stable and very functional while still looking very nice.
So many ROMs, posted so often...
oh boy! I think I am going to become a flashing addict....
@ bjornkopp: video and youtube lagging, display doesn't turn off during call (no known to me tweak works), ring sound and vibra may be off, battery eater
--> It's my current ROM nevertheless ;-)
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@ bjornkopp: video and youtube lagging, display doesn't turn off during call (no known to me tweak works), ring sound and vibra may be off, battery eater
--> It's my current ROM nevertheless ;-)
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Same for me: despite all those, i love this rom (still using the 05.08.2009 version, as this is bug free).