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http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/8476.html
Same spec with Kaiser, but with VGA 640x480 , 262K colors , FLASH, XGA Video out.
That's enough for my next Kaiser replacement.
If it's indeed ever to be released !
More complete spec:
http://www.gsmarena.com/i_mate_ultimate_9502-2158.php
Looks OK, but for a device that's the same size or larger than the Universal, I'd want a screen you can close, to protect it when it's in a pocket.
That's practically UMPC size, by the look of it.
With a 2.8" screen? Sounds pretty close to the size of the Kaiser.
Bet 640x480 looks real sharp on that size screen.
I dont think this is that big, according to the article the dimension is:
116 x 60 x 17.8
While Kaiser:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_TyTN_II#Specification
112mm (L) x 59mm (W) x 19mm (T)
HTC Universal:
127 mm (L) x 81 mm (w) x 25 mm (T)
So, it is still SMALL device !
specs look identical to Kaiser to me, other than VGA screen
nothing earth-shattering there, imho
dld
As far as i know, WM6 doesn't support 256k colors...
wow... looks good.
any idea when it will be released?
Have any of these devices gone thru FCC approval yet? Don't think they have.
Nice device but no FM radio !
If the stats are the same, such as the processor, and it is higher res, wouldn't it just be like a kaiser, but slower?
Im not sure what the advantage would be of more pixels in the same amount of space would be. 2.8 screen is pretty small, 640x480 on that is going to be ultra fine.
Maybe this is a case of "Less is More", but I will hold my judgment till I can see it in action.
Wow, it looks darn good to me. VGA screens really do look sharp and ultra crisp. I would really want to know if it's a trans-reflective screen, that would push me towards it more.
Kaiser 112x59x19 190g
i-Mate 116x60x18 200g
Size wise, pretty close.
I was getting a little bit of envy until I read this.
...so you would have to be nuts to pay over $800 (xx50 anticipated price) to an overseas company or US importer, for a phone which comes from a company with tech support and return policies which are reported to be horrible, and questionalble quality products.
...I will NEVER buy another IMate product.
They are the worst company I have ever dealt with.
But don't take my word for it- Do a search in the PPC forum. They have horrid, incompetent support.
The only rom upgrades they ever put out, were basically stolen from the work other vendors had done (there were other vendors tags in the rom)
You have been warned.
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I handled two months back
Flying from Singapore to London, sat next to an engineer for the company. All I can say is the demo i held was a high quality steel make, no plastic etc, and the keyboard was sleek but smallish. Form factor similar to Kaizer but heavier.
The design / engineering are in the UK and he had two phones on him, this and another standard phone (no keyboard)
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I'd wonder what kind of battery hit that VGA screen would have as well.
It has the same CPU with Kaiser.
Pops_G said:
If the stats are the same, such as the processor, and it is higher res, wouldn't it just be like a kaiser, but slower?
Im not sure what the advantage would be of more pixels in the same amount of space would be. 2.8 screen is pretty small, 640x480 on that is going to be ultra fine.
Maybe this is a case of "Less is More", but I will hold my judgment till I can see it in action.
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I am sorry if this has been asked before, and to be honest I have not searched this forum either
Anyway, my question is this:
What is your opinion to the new HTC Touch Pro, is it worth the upgrade?
I read that it has 288 MB of RAM!
But I did hovever not find any information about if it has the proper drivers installed or not.
So please give me your opinios, should I upgrade or not?
Whats good about it and whats not so good compared to tytn II?
Thanks in advance!
Please comment!
Please everyone, I would very much welcome some comments and opinions on this, not just voting!
I would like to know why you are voting yes or no!
The reason I am asking this is becouse I am considering selling my tytn II to be able to by the Touch pro!
But I really need your opinions so I dont make a huge misstake here!
Thanks!
I would get one if it wasnt for the price!
has a VGA screen... slightly better camera... slightly better Processor... generally, not that much better, but slightly
One major downside of the diamond series is the glossy exterior. Fingersprints all over the thing. My Kaiser doesnt have that at all. So it has more RAM, but do you really use the current Kaisers amount? No way, i always have more then enough free. It's a slight upgrade compared to Kaiser, but is it worth the wait and/or money.
I think i will not stay with HTC anymore.... maybe get a SE X1
From what I have seen it does look like a good phone but TBH we will have to wait and see. I would say yes get it, but wait a little while to see what others think of it
If it has the same driver 'issues' as the TyTn II then i'd say no!
I say go for it.
1) Touch Pro is essentially the HTC Diamond with a slide-out QWERTY keyboard
2) Most of the HTC Diamond applications can be found on this or other forums
1+2 = not really worth the upgrade, if you are happy with the TYTN 2 processor
Don't know about the drivers, & i would hate to be cheated again....
Ok, these are very good arguments so I think I will wait for a while to see if it has the driver or not!
I was hoping that it was official already, and that people knew about the driver!
Anyway, does anyone know if it has tv-out or not? It is somewhat important for me to have that!
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Ok, these are very good arguments so I think I will wait for a while to see if it has the driver or not!
I was hoping that it was official already, and that people knew about the driver!
Anyway, does anyone know if it has tv-out or not? It is somewhat important for me to have that!
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http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=5455
There wont be driver issues..it will come with built-in hardware acceleration via an ATi chip like the X1. The tytn II has no hardware acceleration what so ever, plus the missing drivers.
Now as to which to get X1 or Touch Pro is a tough choice.
I am for sure upgrading to the Touch Pro or X1 when they come out in September for the US versions.
Pros:
Lets face it: VGA screen(sharp crisp images/text/video), another 128Mhz faster, another 160mb system ram, true 3d hardware acceleration via Ati chipset, touchscreen 3D, 5 row keyboard, a flush screen, camera flash.
How can you say no to that?
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I think i will not stay with HTC anymore.... maybe get a SE X1
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Then you're staying with HTC lol.
Anyway, I'd go for the upgrade if I had the money. VGA screen, slick interface, faster processor, more ram, better camera, I could keep going.
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Fingersprints all over the thing. My Kaiser doesnt have that at all.
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I'm one of those people who could careless about something like that. A quick wipe clears that up. You'd probably scream at the sight of my ipod lol.
RDS= TMC for GPS?
Sense it has RDS radio, is it possible that it will recieve TMC signals for navigation?
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There wont be driver issues..it will come with built-in hardware acceleration via an ATi chip like the X1. The tytn II has no hardware acceleration what so ever, plus the missing drivers.
Now as to which to get X1 or Touch Pro is a tough choice.
I am for sure upgrading to the Touch Pro or X1 when they come out in September for the US versions.
Pros:
Lets face it: VGA screen(sharp crisp images/text/video), another 128Mhz faster, another 160mb system ram, true 3d hardware acceleration via Ati chipset, touchscreen 3D, 5 row keyboard, a flush screen, camera flash.
How can you say no to that?
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Ok, so there will be no more issues with the drivers?
I tought that the information was not out yet, where did you hear or read that?
Also does that mean it will perform better when it comes to watching videos, and taking pics with the camera?
Thanks!
Like somebody said alrdy, the touch pro is just the htc diamond with a slide out keyboard...i personally dont think the diamond is as good at certain tasks like the kaiser is, like possible business/exchange email. On the multimedia standpoint all the kaiser needs is for the drivers to be released for full potential of video playback for the camera video recording and some other applications to be used to full potential but other then that, viewng of avi's(dvds) and youtube seem crystal clear or as good as a 2.8" screen can get. Both will have similar ati graphics cards or qualcomm chipsets, the pro supposedly will have hardware acceleration but will see(some specs are rumos dont belive everthing you read). Also the Kaier is 400mhz i mean that is pretty fast for a phone, try to remember that ad for the pro to have another 100mhz of course it will be faster but how much of a diference will that feel like when ur using the phone. Same Qualcomm processor but probably the MS7500... so im guessing, as for the extra 128megs of ram...i barely use 20-30 megs of a total of 125 on the kaiser, with my 4g micro sd card, i dont put any apps on the phone period so i dont think extra ram in a phone is that great of an eye turner. The main plus i see with the diamond pro is the VGA and tv out tuner, two things the kaiser doesnt have but its a matter of opinion if ur gonna be watching tv on a 2.8" phone...avi's are my limit and thats during spare time at work and same with youtube. I dunno...i say if the drivers for the kaiser come out by the time the pro comes out, an upgrade would have to be seriously convincing because with the video drivers, the kaiser will feel like a brand new phone again. I had no actual issues with the video playback and didnt see what all the hoopla was about with the lawsuit action and thread upon thread about the drivers until i went to a Barrack Obama rally and tried recording a video of his speech and noticed my recording looked like i was in the matrix going slomo dodging bullets like neo basically my video recording playback was like i had a nokia instead of the flagship Tilt, I then realized my old hermes used to record crystal clear on a 2 megapixel camera but now my kaiser felt handicaped in the camera department. Thats my two cents on my Kaiser, so if the pro has these playback issues, an upgrade will be a waste of money because both phones seem similar and HTC better improve on their customer awareness before they keep coming out with high end phones. I see very few advatages in the pro for me to drop another 400 plus broohaha's on it or even have to extend my contract for a milion years to upgrade to it.
How is Touch Pro and HTC Diamond the same phone?
moegdaog said:
Like somebody said alrdy, the touch pro is just the htc diamond with a slide out keyboard...i personally dont think the diamond is as good at certain tasks like the kaiser is, mainly business/exchange email capabilities. On the multimedia standpoint all the kaiser needs is for the drivers to be released for the full potential of video playback for the camera video recording and some other applications to be used to full potential but other then that, viewng of avi's(dvds) and youtube are crystal clear so i dont think the touch pro in a sense, be better at viewing videos better then the kaiser because they both will have similar ati graphics cards or qualcomm chipsets. Also i dont think the pro will be more then 400mhz, same processor as the kaiser but i heard it will be slightly faster so im guessing it will have the MS7500. The main plus i see with the diamond pro is the VGA and tv out tuner, two things the kaiser doesnt have but its a matter of opinion if ur gonna be watching tv on a 2.8" phone...avi's are my limit and thats during spare time at work and same with youtube. I dunno...i say if the drivers for the kaiser come out by the time the pro comes out, an upgrade would have to be seriously convincing because with the video drivers, the kaiser will feel like a brand new phone again. I had no actual issues with the video playback and didnt see what all the hoopla was about with the lawsuit action and thread upon thread about the drivers until i went to a Barrack Obama rally and tried recording a video of his speech and noticed my recording looked like i was in the matrix going slomo dodging bullets like neo basically my video recording playback was like i had a nokia instead of the flagship Tilt, I then realized my old hermes used to record crystal clear on a 2 megapixel camera but now my kaiser felt handicaped in the camera department. Thats my two cents on my Kaiser, so if the pro has these playback issues, an upgrade will be a waste of money because both phones seem similar and HTC better improve on their customer awareness before they keep coming out with high end phones. I see very few advatages in the pro for me to drop another 400 plus broohaha's on it or even have to extend my contract for a milion years to upgrade to it.
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Ok first of all the Touch pro is going to have a 528 MHz processor which I think is a huge difference from the 400 MHz we have now!
Second it has alot more RAM, 288 MB! I think this device will be lightning fast!
I dont see how you can say that HTC Diamond and HTC Touch Pro is almost the same phone? If you check out the specs you will clearly see a difference!
HTC Diamond Specs:
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=46286
HTC Touch Pro Specs:
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49524
Also Diamond does NOT have tv-out what I can see! It lacks memory card slot and has built in 4 GB instead!
The only problem I can think of is if it indeed lacks proper drivers!
If this is not the issue anymore, then I will certainly go and buy it!
I would also like to know it it is possible to recieve TMC information now when it is equiped with an RDS Radio?
im not saying its a similar phone i just think that the upgrade in speed and ram isnt going to thrill a whole lot of kaiser people in shelling out the dough and extending contracts when the kaiser is a very efficient and solid phone bro....just that the second those drivers get droped it will be like ownning a brand new phone, that diamond is going to hit the back burner and be purchased by people who just wanna have the latest and greatest. The kaiser has alrdy been upgraded too by hermes, wizard, mda, treo and other older htc phone people because of its flagship credentials and solid specifications (built in GPS being one of them) for all us kaiser people to upgrade now to the next latest and greatest will take alot, just my opinion. And if this pro's video playback issues are the same why would anybody upgrade. I really think the only people upgrading to it if the kaisers drivers come out are people just wanting to say they have the newest htc phone. Also Branko for the pro to not have a memory card slot and only be able to store 4 gigs is deffinetly a turn off....i have a 4 gig in my kaser right now and i usually have a minimum of 3 to 4 900 meg avi movies in my tilt at a time with another 4-5 album mp3's and not including my word and pdf documents for school, so i like the fact that i can swap out my 4gig and put my other 2 gig micro sd card in when i need to. I mean the Kaiser is expandable to 32gigs...doesnt that option make the kaiser the flagship phone that it is? i dunno but the pro doesnt tickle my pimple but i guess it does yours!
moegdaog said:
im not saying its a similar phone i just think that the upgrade in speed and ram isnt going to thrill a whole lot of kaiser people in shelling out the dough and extending contracts when the kaiser is a very efficient and solid phone bro....just that the second those drivers get droped it will be like ownning a brand new phone, that diamond is going to hit the back burner and be purchased by people who just wanna have the latest and greatest. The kaiser has alrdy been upgraded too by hermes, wizard, mda, treo and other older htc phone people because of its flagship credentials and solid specifications (built in GPS being one of them) for all us kaiser people to upgrade now to the next latest and greatest will take alot, just my opinion. And if this pro's video playback issues are the same why would anybody upgrade. I really think the only people upgrading to it if the kaisers drivers come out are people just wanting to say they have the newest htc phone. Also Branko for the pro to not have a memory card slot and only be able to store 4 gigs is deffinetly a turn off....i have a 4 gig in my kaser right now and i usually have a minimum of 3 to 4 900 meg avi movies in my tilt at a time with another 4-5 album mp3's and not including my word and pdf documents for school, so i like the fact that i can swap out my 4gig and put my other 2 gig micro sd card in when i need to. I mean the Kaiser is expandable to 32gigs...doesnt that option make the kaiser the flagship phone that it is? i dunno but the pro doesnt tickle my pimple but i guess it does yours!
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I do get your point, but the fact is that the HTC Touch Pro does have an sd card slot just like the Tytn II! It´s the Diamond that has the 4 GB Built in and no sd card slot!
So you can say that HTC Touch pro is everything that Tytn II is now and much more
However I do agree with you that if it does not have the drivers in place it wont really matter!
Can someone please verify?
Can someone please verify that the HTC Touch Pro wont have the same driver issue that Tytn II has?
Please this is of great importance for me to decide if I will buy it or not!
Thanks!
I haven't seen a thread on this yet as the news was just released so I need to figure this out.
Here: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/01/att-roadmap-leaks-out/
and here: http://www.geardiary.com/2008/07/01/att-roadmap-for-2008-blackjack-3-wi-fi-blackberry-curve/
From the article:
AT&T Tilt 2 due Q4 - Specs below:
Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional Edition
Tri-band HSDPA (3.6); Quad-band EDGE
Qualcomm 528 MHz processor
256MB ROM/ 128MB RAM
3.0 MP camera
WiFi; Bluetooth 2.0
PTT; AGPS
VSC (at launch)
Also good news from the article:
AT&T Tilt 6.1 upgrade due in July
So my question that I'm trying to get figured out is whether or not this "Tilt 2" is the Touch Pro/Raphel? Tilt 2 would indicate that the screen can tilt (common sense draws that conclusion anyway) like the current Kaiser can. All evidence of the Touch Pro indicates that it does not tilt. This "Tilt 2" also lists a 3.0mp camera while Touch Pro is a 3.2. Also, this article lists 256 ROM / 128 RAM and all evidence I've read on the Touch Pro/Raphel has said it will have 512 ROM / 228 RAM. I am going to be pissed if the GSM version of this phone only has 128 RAM. Thats what our phones have now! Plus it's going to have to run touchflo3d!? Give me a break.
Please give me some insight into what you guys think.
Touch Pro specs: http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Touch-Pro-phone-p_2879.html
UPDATES:
7/23/08
Touch Pro confirmed for ATT?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410945
idk but it would sure be nice if we could break out phones and get it replaced with the Tilt II. or atleast get some sort of cheap discount on it by already owning the Tilt.
godfa7h3r said:
Also good news from the article:
AT&T Tilt 6.1 upgrade due in July
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hmmm, i bet there is a leaked version of it available now. Lets see if we can find it.
Raphel coming to Att i think i just wet myself
This is going to be a great summer after all.
redbandana said:
Raphel coming to Att i think i just wet myself
This is going to be a great summer after all.
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Check the specs they don't match up
I'll repeat and stick with what I mentioned on the ATT forums:
...and then again they said the upgrade for the 8525 was anticipated to be the same time leaked info was brought out and to our suprise, it wasn't even close. Who knows about the upgrade for to WM6.1, but i'm really looking forward as to seeing which device ATT picks up: the SE X1 or the Raphael. I'd personally like to see the X1 with it's slicky design and nice SE features. The Raphael looks great but i'm hearing a lot of problems with the TouchFlo3d on the Diamond (the Raphael will only be better than the Diamond in a few aspects like the keyboard). When i saw videos of the X1 on Youtube, their technology looks crisp and amazing, but then again we could see otherwise.
kareem9nba said:
I'll repeat and stick with what I mentioned on the ATT forums:
...and then again they said the upgrade for the 8525 was anticipated to be the same time leaked info was brought out and to our suprise, it wasn't even close. Who knows about the upgrade for to WM6.1, but i'm really looking forward as to seeing which device ATT picks up: the SE X1 or the Raphael. I'd personally like to see the X1 with it's slicky design and nice SE features. The Raphael looks great but i'm hearing a lot of problems with the TouchFlo3d on the Diamond (the Raphael will only be better than the Diamond in a few aspects like the keyboard). When i saw videos of the X1 on Youtube, their technology looks crisp and amazing, but then again we could see otherwise.
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HTC developed the X1 for Sony, just saying...
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HTC developed the X1 for Sony, just saying...
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Yea i'm aware of that. The X1 still has some nice advantages over the Raphael such as the 3 inch screen.
HTC build the X1 for Sony Ericsson (not Sony) - they didn't design it or write the software. Just saying.
Aside from that, it's pretty obvious that "Tilt 2" is the Touch Pro. "Tilt 2" is the natural working title for the product which is, internally, the direct replacement of the Tilt. It won't be called that when it hits the shelves, for the simple reason that try as they might, AT&T won't be able to make Raphael tilt. They'll just have to come up with another catchy consumer name for it (like, erm, "Touch Pro").
im not gonna ever consider buying the phone until someone tests quake 3 on it. then test for a touch screen bug, then test some emulators, and finally test the video performance.
You and those games lol
Based on those specs, I can't see a Tilt2 being a Touch Pro. If those specs are correct, a Tilt2 wouldn't hardly be worth the upgrade. Only a faster processor? Damn... my battery doesn't last that long as it is. I can only imagine what kind of battery life (or lack there of) a Tilt2 would have.
GWelker62 said:
Based on those specs, I can't see a Tilt2 being a Touch Pro. If those specs are correct, a Tilt2 wouldn't hardly be worth the upgrade. Only a faster processor? Damn... my battery doesn't last that long as it is. I can only imagine what kind of battery life (or lack there of) a Tilt2 would have.
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HERE HERE, WELL SAID
Watch it be the same phone with an upgraded cpu and the front camera and still no driver.
Boinng said:
HTC build the X1 for Sony Ericsson (not Sony) - they didn't design it or write the software. Just saying.
Aside from that, it's pretty obvious that "Tilt 2" is the Touch Pro. "Tilt 2" is the natural working title for the product which is, internally, the direct replacement of the Tilt. It won't be called that when it hits the shelves, for the simple reason that try as they might, AT&T won't be able to make Raphael tilt. They'll just have to come up with another catchy consumer name for it (like, erm, "Touch Pro").
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What makes it so obvious? As stated before, based on these hardware sheets the only improvement is a faster processor. If you compare the Kaiser to a Touch Pro (not this "Tilt 2") there are much more improvements than simply a faster processor. The Touch Pro doubles the RAM and ROM, it has a 3.2MP camera rather than a 3, and I know this one is not listed but it also has a VGA screen. If I was writing up the specs for the "Tilt 2" you better believe I would have included the fact that it has a freaking VGA screen rather than QVGA.
Right
So we're saying that HTC have developed a barely upgraded version of the Tilt especially for AT&T, that's really sucky and a year behind the competition, while the rest of the world and every other network gets the Touch Pro?
Yep, that's more believable than a couple of misprints in an internal document.
Regardless...
I know for a fact that the Sony Xperia is coming to AT&T
That's the device to have. Same RAM/ROM as the Touch Pro. More storage on the device in fact.
Better screen. Could care less about the touchflo 3D and a 10 hours of talk time. Count me in.
What you fail to realize is that with the smaller nanometer chips the battery's are able to last longer then the current devices that we have. Yes it's a faster chip and it's also has far less power consumption as the 7200 chipset.
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Regardless...
I know for a fact that the Sony Xperia is coming to AT&T
That's the device to have. Same RAM/ROM as the Touch Pro. More storage on the device in fact.
Better screen. Could care less about the touchflo 3D and a 10 hours of talk time. Count me in.
What you fail to realize is that with the smaller nanometer chips the battery's are able to last longer then the current devices that we have. Yes it's a faster chip and it's also has far less power consumption as the 7200 chipset.
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Is this based on what you think or some inside connections 8)?
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Is this based on what you think or some inside connections 8)?
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Just based on common knowledge. 65nm tech consumes less power. The X1 whitepaper says it will last 10 hours on GSM and 6.5 hours on UMTS (talk time).
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Regardless...
I know for a fact that the Sony Xperia is coming to AT&T
That's the device to have. Same RAM/ROM as the Touch Pro. More storage on the device in fact.
Better screen. Could care less about the touchflo 3D and a 10 hours of talk time. Count me in.
What you fail to realize is that with the smaller nanometer chips the battery's are able to last longer then the current devices that we have. Yes it's a faster chip and it's also has far less power consumption as the 7200 chipset.
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Dont tell anyone about the X-1 comming to AT&T my tech department at AT&T is supposed to keep that a secret, your going to get all of us in trouble
How about THIS!
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=64790
The full specs and photos and info. ALL official on HTC's website!
I'm trying to decide whether to cancel my Diamond order or hope to get enough money from selling it to pay for the Touch HD. Because, I'm assuming it will come to Sprint like all the rest of HTCs flagship phones have. Prolly around March I am guessing.
PS. Mods we need a HTC Touch HD forum now please.
get the diamond. if you like the reviews for the hd, sell the diamond.
but.. i dont think youll be missing much sticking with the diamond tbh.
enjoy your new htc!
Only:
a 1 inch bigger screen at a higher res
a 3.5mm headphone jack (finally)
stereo speakers
thinner
double the rom
a microSD slot (wtf did they not have that on the Diamond?)
a way better camera
So what would I be missing by sticking with the HD?
hi
i really hope we can use the HD roms on the diamond, also i kinda hate htc now, for releasing so many nice phones, that i can only have one, and not all of them ; ;
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i really hope we can use the HD roms on the diamond, also i kinda hate htc now, for releasing so many nice phones, that i can only have one, and not all of them ; ;
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Amen dude.
While I like the spec of the HD, I also like the compactness of Diamond which I am getting very used to now. So I think I will stay with Diamond for now.
Well reports are coming it that it maybe here as soon as November! see www.coolsmartphone.com for info.
I do hate HTC for doing this, I personally would of waited until the Touch HD was released, I love the Diamond, but id rather have the capacity to upgrade the memory, have the larger screen and better camera.
I always used to wait until my contract was up before going for a new phone, satisfying my desire for new phones by purchasing them off ebay. Now, thanks to HTC, im even considering buying the Touch HD sim free from Devicewire or Expansys. Thats me skint for christmas! hehe!
I've got to get this phone. I love my Diamond, but that thing is even more Diamond than the Diamond is.
actually i'm quite curious about the pricing of the device. althought it will be a lot heavier (146 grams compared to the 110 of the diamond), if all specs look well i just might be tempted to switch.
from the photos i like the touch hd more simply cause of the screen, although they've still kept it a basic 65k color with a higher resolution. my biggest question is whether it will still incorporate a mass storage device of it's own to which the micro sd card is added
iliescu902 said:
actually i'm quite curious about the pricing of the device. althought it will be a lot heavier (146 grams compared to the 110 of the diamond), if all specs look well i just might be tempted to switch.
from the photos i like the touch hd more simply cause of the screen, although they've still kept it a basic 65k color with a higher resolution. my biggest question is whether it will still incorporate a mass storage device of it's own to which the micro sd card is added
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No mass storage. Specs are already out. But Micro SDs are getting cheaper and cheaper....
I must have this. I guess the wife gets an early upgrade....she loves getting my old phones after I have tweaked them to the max..... thank goodness for that!
You can get an 8GB microSD for only ~$25. I posted a link in one of the forums. Or there are 16GB microSDs available for around ~$60-$70.
stock expected but no pricing yet? I smell BS......
Does anyone know if HD will use capacitive touch screen?
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/search.aspx?s=touch%20hd
It will arrive the 10th November !!!
Less than 2 month
FYI: wiki.xda started/updated today!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...HTC_Blackstone
Also, here's the main discussion thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425031
Help me decide! I like the fact that the HD has a larger screen, comes with 8gb card, and separate 3.5 headphone connection but concerned about the reports of skipping during music and video playback. However, the Diamond2 is less expensive.
Any opinions?
The processor on the HD is the same as that of the Diamond 2, so video problems may remain the same. Personally, I think that the HD is a bit big, the TD2 is a cool size and looks really cool. Since they are almost the same, go with the TD2 as you said it is cheaper.
the CPU is not the same.... HD has MSM7201A and TD2 has MSM7200A.
MSM7201A and MSM7200A, the former is newer but they are the same
salamt said:
MSM7201A and MSM7200A, the former is newer but they are the same
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Well, in fact MSM7200A is better: The MSM7201A is exactly the same, except for video recording, where it is crippled to prevent recording [email protected], which MSM7200A can do but it infringes some patents from a US company. Qualcomm created the MSM7201A from the MSM7200A just to avoid those patents, by removing/disabling the part of the chip infringing the patent and replacing it by something patent free (and less performant), so that devices using MSM7201A can be sold in the US without fear of legal actions.
jlp_svk said:
the CPU is not the same.... HD has MSM7201A and TD2 has MSM7200A.
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Aside from 3G and Vid Recording differences, they are the same, clock speed, etc.
I had been using HTC HD for almost 4mths plus and now just got my Diamond 2, for me i find both is about the same only thing different is the size is smaller. that all depend on yourself i prefer a smaller one easy to keep inside pocket so that's why i chose to get D2.
Both is a great PDA i would say, fuction is the same and best things is they don't give you problem.
Anyway i still keeping my HTC HD with me if i decide to change back..
Sorry for the DP...... If someone could delet this one. My connection got screwy on me.
szpirit said:
Help me decide! I like the fact that the HD has a larger screen, comes with 8gb card, and separate 3.5 headphone connection but concerned about the reports of skipping during music and video playback. However, the Diamond2 is less expensive.
Any opinions?
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I was having this exact same dilema the othere day. LOL. I have since decided that a bigger screen and 8GB memory card is not a good enough reason to get the HD for me.
The TD2 will be OEM upgradable to WM6.5..... but who cares with XDA.... already running a 6.5rom on my Elfin. It's smaller than the HD and the screen is HUGE for it's size. Nearly as big as the Iphone but in a way smaller device. Also I have a 16GB memory card.... beats anything offered with most phones.... Also the TD2 is Newer and Cheaper.... So I decided to go with the TD2.
3.5mm Jack would be nice but im not a HUGE music fan. Most of my music listening is done in the car, at work, sometimes at home. But mostly in the car. you can always buy a nice stereo bluetooth headset.... NO WIRES..... ????
I had the HD and sold it to buy the TD2 . Best move I ever made . The HD is a cool device but it's size is just not for me .
wardy said:
I had the HD and sold it to buy the TD2 . Best move I ever made . The HD is a cool device but it's size is just not for me .
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I agree completely, the TD2 feels much better in the hand.