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Please help - PhonePad and Trinity (p3600)

Hi everyone...I'm trying to load PhonePad onto my Trinity...tried several different ones that I found here on this website...rremoved them, added them on top of each other, soft reset, didn't reset...I think I tried all variations, but still doesnt work...all that happens is that I can see phonepad as an aoption in the input screen, but when I click on it, it goes to keyboard...I tried clicking on transcriber, and then phonepad...nada...same with other combos...still nothing...
Can anyone tell me what to do or what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks,
Louay

Download this app it will solve your problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29739&d=1155547155

I uninstalled phonepad, instaed your app, ran it, reinstalled phonepad, and still nothing...I open the app sipchange, and try to select phonepad (inside sipchange) but it still goes back to keyboard...very strange...
You did this and it worked for you?
Thanks,
L

samawil said:
I uninstalled phonepad, instaed your app, ran it, reinstalled phonepad, and still nothing...I open the app sipchange, and try to select phonepad (inside sipchange) but it still goes back to keyboard...very strange...
You did this and it worked for you?
Thanks,
L
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Sorry for my english... so..
you must put a link of sipchange.exe into windows/startup with this string:
"....\sipchange.exe" SET (to do this i had use resco explorer).
Soft reset

Am trying as I type...went into startup and cipchange was already there, so changed the name to cipchange.exe..then opened sipchange, SETit to phonepad..soft reset, and now its ready for the test
.........
NOTHING...I've never even seen the phonepad work on this phone..some people at least got to use it a few times...Iàm almost thinking of a hard reset...
L

For those that might be interested...
I hard reset, THEN loaded phonepad and it works like a charm...the onl problem is that it writes the words as you type them, and only once you chose the word or hit space does it place it in your text, so you can't use the predictive text, and sometime miss the last word of the sms...other than that it's awsome...
L

I'm a little confused..
I had the DOPOD rom installed with the phonepad installed as standard and got quite used to it. I upgraded to the HTC WWE rom yesterday and after reading about the trouble with geting phonepad to work, I followed the instructions about installing the G4 SIP editor and then the phonepad app. It worked but caused issues with other input methods like the normal keyboard.
So this morning, I've re-installed the rom and re-installed the phonepad app, and it seems to be working perfectly without the need for the G4 SIP, which has got me a little worried and confused. I wasn't expecting it to work at all, when in fact, it works like it used to on the DOPOD rom and doesn't mess up the normal keyboard input method.
What is the G4 SIP app supposed to do or prevent?

I have no idea but I didn't like the phonepad as an add on...it doesn't guess words etc because you type first then insert...I've moved on to a treo 750 and this is probably the best phone related move I've made in quite some time...

sorry post error

Finding an input method for Diamond

I am finding a Japanese keyboard for Diamond
My Rom is Chinese Traditional, dunno if it is HK Rom or TW Rom
Then I reached here: http://my.opera.com/cameron_en/blog/2008/02/03/ime-complete-installation-files-download-section
I tried following the instructions there but I cannot use henkan (変換) button, or even backspace.
My activated ChangJie input cannot be used as well.
The black bar (start menu bar) was on the top of the green screen which the texts "Windows Mobile 6.1" are there when I boot up my phone after the JP keyboard is installed, and the icons on the bar were not on there places. For example, the windows flag is in the middle.
I found they are not useful I uninstalled them all, the default input "ChangJie" can be used without problems, but the black-bar problem is not solved, I have to hard reset my phone.
Question: Now I haven't hard reset it yet, and want to know
1, How can I make the Japanese input works without any problems
2, Could anyone please let me know if there is another JP input for WM6 which works.
Thanks, and sorry for my Eng coz I am a Chinese.

Today I did a hardreset and reinstall IME without Chinese files, Korean files, enabler files and registry fix
All the problems were still here, until I uninstall the korechithai.cab, ChangJie started to work, but those JP IME input method has the following results:
Kana: Only Katakana can be type but cannot Henkan (変換)
Romaji: Only English and Numbers can be typed.
I only hope the two above works, Tegaki and Kensaku are about handwrite which I think is so inconvenience, although these two works quite fine.
I also tried Bagojs Input but all its input methods have to use handwrite.
Glad to hear if there is another Japanese input keyboard or make the Ask IME_31J works.
Thanks

hello!
i'm searching a cab to read japanese, but i can't find anything, have u any idea to do it?

Maybe inside the web the cab korechithai.cab meets you needs.
But I suggest you backup first because I dunno about this!~

All SIP's go back to default SIP.

I've gone through multiple Roms, different versions of hyperdragon III, and different versions of PDAcorner. When I try to select a different keyboard, it loads for a second, then goes back to the default. The only keyboards that work are other defaults, such as Block Recognizer, Letter Recognizer, and Symbol Pad.
SOMETIMES PCM keyboard works, but NEVER has any of the diamond keyboards every worked.
I've even tried SIPchange, but the same thing happens. I assume the same has happened to you guys too? did you ever fix it?
thanks!

Is it just me?
How many of you use the Diamond Keyboard, or keyboard other than the default?

default IM
are you still having the same problem? did you ever try using the default im cab for wm5?
it worked for pcm, but i never tried it with the diamond keyboards.

Ramey said:
are you still having the same problem? did you ever try using the default im cab for wm5?
it worked for pcm, but i never tried it with the diamond keyboards.
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The default cab is the ticket...it works when everything else fails. I don't even bother with the other stuff now. If the sip won't stick, I just install that cab and select it. A soft reset later and you are good to go.

Ramey said:
are you still having the same problem? did you ever try using the default im cab for wm5?
it worked for pcm, but i never tried it with the diamond keyboards.
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I'm not sure what you mean by default im cab for wm5... lol

mikeeey said:
I'm not sure what you mean by default im cab for wm5... lol
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I have attached attached it below. Also there are other keyboards that work better than the diamond ones...raphael and opal work much better. Do a search for their cabs...

parleyp said:
I have attached attached it below. Also there are other keyboards that work better than the diamond ones...raphael and opal work much better. Do a search for their cabs...
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doesnt work... atleast not with PCMkeyboard. I'll reinstall PCM.
I cant seem to find the raphael and opal keyboard.. but I'm going to keep ssearching lol.. i dont wanna sound like a complete noob!
edit:
sipchange and imSelector did nothing... the only reason I fixed PCMkeyboard was cause uninstalled the old and re installed it.. as far sa the raphael and opal keyboard.. i downloaded something, but im not sure if it was it, so.. could someone kindly link me to the 2 keyboards? lol
thanks.
edit: (5 seconds later)
PCMkeyboard just quit working again, and imSelector and sipchange doenst fix it.
So instead i must ask... what roms are you guys using that support SIPS?

default im selector instructions
mikeeey said:
doesnt work... atleast not with PCMkeyboard. I'll reinstall PCM.
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edit:
sipchange and imSelector did nothing... could someone kindly link me to the 2 keyboards? lol
thanks.
.
edit: (5 seconds later)
PCMkeyboard just quit working again...
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1. install the default im wm5 cab above
2. install the opal keyboard you want
3. start > programs > im selector > opal keyboard
4. start > settings > personal > input > opal keyboard
5. soft reset
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you may need 2 soft reset twice before it cooperates. if you have your phone password protected, the default keyboard you selected will never show until AFTER you enter the password.
only RARELY do i get a glitch now, and a reset usually fixes the problem.
let us know!

mikeeey said:
doesnt work... atleast not with PCMkeyboard. I'll reinstall PCM.
I cant seem to find the raphael and opal keyboard.. but I'm going to keep ssearching lol.. i dont wanna sound like a complete noob!
edit:
sipchange and imSelector did nothing... the only reason I fixed PCMkeyboard was cause uninstalled the old and re installed it.. as far sa the raphael and opal keyboard.. i downloaded something, but im not sure if it was it, so.. could someone kindly link me to the 2 keyboards? lol
thanks.
edit: (5 seconds later)
PCMkeyboard just quit working again, and imSelector and sipchange doenst fix it.
So instead i must ask... what roms are you guys using that support SIPS?
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I am in the same boat as you and the only keyboard that I have gotten to work is resco keyboard.....I have same exact problems as you...did you ask SJ about it....

SJ's opal keyboard
im having problems attaching files, but SJ's keyboards can be found here.
apply the default im instructions and a couple of soft resets later, you should be good 2 go.

I played with a Samsung Omnia yesterday, I really liked the keyboard SIP, is it possible to download and get to work on our kaiser's.

not sure...

WINDOWS MOBILE 6.5 21193/21193 update 25.3.2009

XIP 31193
SYS 31193
hello im working on new version and now it is stable and working
here is link
all buttons working (red button .......)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8ger2y
and here is video of rom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozY9aKAMy58
scroll down for screenshots

My observations:
+ damn fast
- red/power button doesn't wors as power-down button and phone toggle
- no wireless/comm manager
- some bitmaps doesn't look very well (not a big problem)
- strange names in Buttons settings
- no palm messaging (but maybe it's jus me)
At the moment I'm going back to 6.1 with palm oems, but I do really cross fingers for you and your rom. If you'll put new version soon, I'm getting it! Great work!

miloszz said:
My observations:
+ damn fast
- red/power button doesn't wors as power-down button and phone toggle
- no wireless/comm manager
- some bitmaps doesn't look very well (not a big problem)
- strange names in Buttons settings
- no palm messaging (but maybe it's jus me)
At the moment I'm going back to 6.1 with palm oems, but I do really cross fingers for you and your rom. If you'll put new version soon, I'm getting it! Great work!
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thx to u next version will be faster then this (i belive)
i need port original applications form palm wm5 to more usable on this palm
1-2 days for it
i dont like palm messaging
original is better for me

I used default messaging for a long time (so called "lite" version of 6.1)
The biggest problem for me is comm manager and power button. Accidentialy I flashed again to your rom so I'll stick with this one now, try to configure it for my needs (it's just question of few apps to cure most of "problems").
Can't wait to see next version.
Best regards.

veisen said:
thx to u next version will be faster then this (i belive)
i need port original applications form palm wm5 to more usable on this palm
1-2 days for it
i dont like palm messaging
original is better for me
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I would suggest using the Palm WM6 as a base for those apps, not wm5.

Merlyn_3D said:
I would suggest using the Palm WM6 as a base for those apps, not wm5.
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5 is better because vodafone version is bigger and slower

miloszz said:
I used default messaging for a long time (so called "lite" version of 6.1)
The biggest problem for me is comm manager and power button. Accidentialy I flashed again to your rom so I'll stick with this one now, try to configure it for my needs (it's just question of few apps to cure most of "problems").
Can't wait to see next version.
Best regards.
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uploaded version wm6.5 with palm oem programs and commmanager and some small fixes

veisen said:
uploaded version wm6.5 with palm oem programs and commmanager and some small fixes
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haven't tried the clean version, but on the new palm version, the soft menu is the old version and links like phone settings or today settings dont work. *have to use start menu*
also not able to connect to an exchange server. link to set it up in activesync seems to be dead.
red button, and wireless manager seem to work.
will check out the clean version as well.
edit: reset the phone. activesync, email, and exchange all work.
soft key bar still isn't like your first update *i assume it changed in 6.5, and this is the old version* and phone and today settings links in soft menu are still broken.
edit#2: seems the email account isn't listed in the accounts settings window. also at least one keyboard shortcut didn't work (whitebutton + P for brightness settings) i assume this has to do with the "weird" names programs have listed under buttons.

i want to update to 6.5 but is it possible to go back to orignal at&t oem rom afterward to will there be some problem....???????
help......??????????????

hartleyshc said:
haven't tried the clean version, but on the new palm version, the soft menu is the old version and links like phone settings or today settings dont work. *have to use start menu*
also not able to connect to an exchange server. link to set it up in activesync seems to be dead.
red button, and wireless manager seem to work.
will check out the clean version as well.
edit: reset the phone. activesync, email, and exchange all work.
soft key bar still isn't like your first update *i assume it changed in 6.5, and this is the old version* and phone and today settings links in soft menu are still broken.
edit#2: seems the email account isn't listed in the accounts settings window. also at least one keyboard shortcut didn't work (whitebutton + P for brightness settings) i assume this has to do with the "weird" names programs have listed under buttons.
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thx for test i repair it today

Just downloaded your rom, will let you know the details soon

Ok here is the review of this rom, the one with palm oem applications and commmanager,
Pros:
Fast and stable
Volume is better compare to 6.1
It has inbuilt mass storage driver which 6.1 lack
Shortcut are sorted in appropriate folders in start menu
Black Theme is default, which is very good
Display is better compare to 6.1
There are 2 flavour of Wmplayer
Comm Manager is now full functional
And More............
Cons:
Instead of green light to show the network now its showing orange,
Vibrate is not working
There is slight jerk in display while changing screen from one program to another
There is no Call screen, Mean when you are answering a call or had dialed a call you want be able to see the duration of the call.

Hi there, thank you very much for your great work. I have a quick question: My Treo has a German (QWERTZ) keyboard, will it be detected somehow?, or the ROM will asume its a QWERTY keyboard. I don't mind the OS being in English, that would even be better, is there a quick way to patch the ROM to make it work with the QWERTZ keyboard?
Thank you so much in advance.

About in call screen. It's all around ActiveCall and DialLookup plugins. Maybe changing some registry values will fix it (I had similar situations once and editing some registry solved my problems). Tomorrow I'll compare some of my keyes with working wm6.

-If your syncing to an Exchange server, the Manage Folders function does not work to be able to select addition folders.
-blank HTCSETTINGS icon under System.. appears to do nothing
- 2 PHONE apps under Personal settings. Different functions, but named the same
- There is something off with trying to go into Messages from the Today screen. Takes a few clicks to actually make it work. It doesn't do it everytime.
That's all I found for the moment.. obviously WLAN option does nothing on mine

I've noticed one more thing: there's no "white dot" indicating text input with active function key. It's a bit tricky when you try to type password and you don't see what you write...
But in general it works very well. But installing "hidelogo" caused reset loop and I had to hard-reset.
Great work!
EDIT:
Change HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Today/Items/"Dial Lookup"/Type from 4 to 6 <- it will fix active-call-screen-problem Works for me.

i build new version today with all palm applications and battery test show me 14days
it is quickly then last version i upload it soon
it need some small fixes
UPLOADED 1st link

miloszz said:
I've noticed one more thing: there's no "white dot" indicating text input with active function key. It's a bit tricky when you try to type password and you don't see what you write...
But in general it works very well. But installing "hidelogo" caused reset loop and I had to hard-reset.
Great work!
EDIT:
Change HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Today/Items/"Dial Lookup"/Type from 4 to 6 <- it will fix active-call-screen-problem Works for me.
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white dot not working on 6.5 i must copy some from 6.1 to make it works

czech version
To Veisen:
Will you make the czech WM 6.5 clear version?
Can you describe differencies between clear and palm version and between 6.1 and 6.5 version?
Thanks.

endymion said:
To Veisen:
Will you make the czech WM 6.5 clear version?
Can you describe differencies between clear and palm version and between 6.1 and 6.5 version?
Thanks.
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clear is without palm applications and wm6.5 is fastest and stable
czech localization on wm6.5 i make soon
i can make other localized roms as deu ita spa pol .........
1st all try this english
i make localization on bug free version of 6.5

HELP: ENABLING Block Recognizer in input menu?

Hi all,
just got my topaz and flashed a cooked ROM (wm 6.5 LP EVO V-ITA to be precise).
i really need to enable block-letter recognising, after years practising i cannot live without...
afer some search, i have tried editing this
For letter recognizer:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"="1"
For block recognizer:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429691-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"="1"
but apparently is not working
can somebody pls help me?
thks
GG

gnarolibero said:
Hi all,
just got my topaz and flashed a cooked ROM (wm 6.5 LP EVO V-ITA to be precise).
i really need to enable block-letter recognising, after years practising i cannot live without...
afer some search, i have tried editing this
For letter recognizer:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"="1"
For block recognizer:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429691-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"="1"
but apparently is not working
can somebody pls help me?
thks
GG
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I have a cab (thanks to !Aman!). You can get block recog.cab from my Topaz File Mirror.

thks but is not working...
anybody knows the proper registry tweak?
thanks in advance
gg
"]!Aman![/URL]). You can get block recog.cab from my Topaz File Mirror.[/QUOTE]

gnarolibero said:
thks but is not working...
anybody knows the proper registry tweak?
thanks in advance
gg
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strange it works for me on WM 6.1
what ROM are you using it for?

BeeGee_Tokyo said:
strange it works for me on WM 6.1
what ROM are you using it for?
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I'm trying to get the Block recognizer too.
It seems to me that Microsoft blocked it in WM 6.5

EzInput 2.1 doesnt support old SIP methods like block recongniser, thats why it doesnt work for you guys.

!Aman! said:
EzInput 2.1 doesn't support old SIP methods like block recognizer, that's why it doesn't work for you guys.
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Hey Aman, but at Microsoft WebPage, they talk about the input methods for WM 6.5 and Block/Letter Recognize are there !!!!!!!
I though that the nes versions of cooked ROM's would be able to have then too.

Finally working BR and LR
Originally Posted by NothingBetterToDo
So sorry for keeping you guys waiting. The following are the steps I took based on my memory.
To enable the Letter Recognizer SIP, set this to 1:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSipInputMethod
"Default"="1" – Enabled
To enable the Block Recognizer SIP, set this to 1:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\IsSipInputMethod
"Default"="1" – Enabled
You will notice that this will not make the SIP appear, for example, in your SMS application. However, it should appear in the pulldown menu at Start->Settings->Personal->Input. Now, if you try to set the Letter Recognizer as default, thinking that it will appear in SMS application, it doesn't. For some reason, it will always default back to the Touch Input (or EzInput) SIP.
So, the next step is to make the Letter Recognizer SIP the default. To do that, check the value at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\DefaultIm
It should be "0654897B-B359-473F-B28B-D85CF601C57F" (for Touch Input SIP). Replace that with
"42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9" (for Letter Recognizer SIP).
WARNING -- very very important to make sure the above is entered correctly. According to some posts elsewhere, a non existent SIP can crash your device. You might want to confirm if you have the Letter Recognizer SIP by searching for the msim.dll file. If it exists, I suppose it is probably safe.
After soft reset (power on/off device), you should now see the Letter Recognizer in your SMS application. However, you will also notice it doesn't work properly. For eg, the Capital Letter (left panel) doesn't work, there is this irritating word suggestions thing that keep popping up, it is quite slow and quite inaccurate, the Help doesn't work well.
To resolve these problems, set the following to 1:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip\IsOtherSip
Do a soft reset and the problems should disappear and you have a good Letter Recognizer to work with (even with fingernail), save for the following problems:
a. Sometimes response may not be very good. Can be quite slow especially if you are entering letters like "i", "r". Maybe this is because of the screen sensitivity.
b. If you click on the little triangle and want to switch to the Touch Input SIP, you can. But the problem is that you can't switch back to the Letter Recognizer anymore unless you do a soft reset. I guess this is OK if you use Letter Recognizer exclusively, but if you want the Chinese Handwriting feature in Touch Input (which is pretty good IMO), then it is not good.
Sorry for the long post. Thought it is better to also share my observations. I am a newbie with registry thing, so I prefer to do step by step and hence many soft resets. If you are gungho enough, just do the steps in bold followed by a soft reset. Hope it works for all you guys.
Note -- if you don't feel safe doing the registry changes, an alternative is to use the Touch Input SIP but set the waiting time to the shortest possible which will reduce the delay. But it is still very irritating to use IMHO.
Cheers

Just to remember all that the solution I described at the previous post is not mine and was Originally Posted by NothingBetterToDo. So, many thnaks to him for the great solution !!!!!!

Info for the ones that doesnt have en version
Hi
Info to all of you with other language then english.
The file msim.dll are country specific, in sweden its called msimsw.dll so i guess you will be able to find your version if you search the registry for msmi and then you will find a msmiXX.dll that is the correct one for your country.
I hade to add the info for {42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9} and {42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9} because it was missing info so it's not enought to only change the IsSipInputMethod to 1.
I have attached the files i used, but plz realise that this one is for swedish a version. You can edit the files with notepad to adress the localized .dll file for your country.
After this to be able to use the input methods i did what nicksalgado said and change
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\DefaultIm
to {42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9} to use Block recognizer as default im
/SebulbaSe

Hi
I have the "RUU_Topaz_S_HTC_SPA_2.16.412.1_Radio_Sign_Topaz_61.44tc.25.32_4.49.25.17_Ship", and has the same problem that you describe. I use the HTC Pure from AT&T, and in the original AT&T ROM the Block Recognizer work it just fine. Is there a way to captura a cab to use to solve this problem from the original AT&T Rom?? Regards

OK The tweak worked for me. Now I have got rid of that annoying keyboard. Anyway I would like to have the option of choosing the keyboard in a drop down list like before the rom update. Now the block recognizer is the one and only input method.

yulbeast said:
OK The tweak worked for me. Now I have got rid of that annoying keyboard. Anyway I would like to have the option of choosing the keyboard in a drop down list like before the rom update. Now the block recognizer is the one and only input method.
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Use this app to choose your SIP.

Activation of the Letter/Block Recognizer cookbook
Hi all
thanks, it works perfectly on my Topaz.
How to desactivate properly and completely block recognizer (register and so on) of my Topaz now, because I want tu use the SPB Back Up of my Topaz on my Touch2..and I am sure I will Have some problems with this change..?
Thanks

It's not a good idea to use a full backup file from one device to a different one.