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Hi All.
I just purchase a new unlocked HTC P3600 (1.15.405.5 is the verision that the device came with from the store) here in Canada.
This unit came from the store with the GPS icon available in SETTINGS/CONNECTION connections.
I have spent the last week reading, and reading, and rereading all you guys great posts on the new "cooked" ROM updates provided for FREE from some of the members/developers here, and the hints and tips for usability! Thank you all for this site and forum!
Now, into my question.
With the verision of the ROM that I have, is the GPS activated? I do see the GPS icon in the I have installed both google maps and live search which both software seem to have GPS functionality built in. I would like to get these programs to work with my built in GPS. However, it is a bit confussing when reading through all the posts on GPS to figure out what are my GPS settings that I should use from this particular ROM verision? I spent 2 hours trying every single combination of GPS program port (COM0-9 and GPD1-9) and GPS hardware port (COM0-9), with out success with either of the two softwares (live search or google maps). Both give an 'can't communicate with GPS' errors, with any of the combination settings.
FYI- I turned on the 'manage GPS automatically' when trying these comb settings. Each time I tried a different setting, I didn't do a soft reset.. just changed the GPS settings.. and then went back into one of the two program mentioined above and tried.. each time it fails with 'can't commicate with GPS'.
Question: do I have to do a softreset everytime I change the GPS settings? AGain, the device manual has NO documention on how to setup the GPS settings.. and the forums is somewhat confusing as I don't know if these methods are ROM specific or not.
Is there any utility that I can use to see if my GPS is activated/working under my current ROM?
Secondly, if my ROM is too old and I need an updated verision.. I have a small problem here too...
I downloaded LVSW ROM: 20070418_RUU_Trinity_LVSW_WWE_1.25.0.8_GPS_AKU3.5.2, which from what I have been reading here.. is a exellent ROM! But I have problems installing it...
My battery is 100% charged.. I am using my USB cable with my laptop (so powerfailure won't 'brick' my phone) running Win XP SP2 with ActiveSynch 4.5.
I make the activesch connection fine.. I lauch the .exe from the ROM.. i get past step 3 in the wizard... by clicking NEXT to install the ROM.. on the phone a verification prompts me to allow this program to run.. but as soon as I click accept/allow.. the wizard on the laptop immidately loses connection with my phone and says 'can't communicate'.. on my phone i get a red, green, blue and white bars with the text.. TRIN100, IPL_SSPL by Des, TRIN100, SPL-1.07.ds, and in the white area it says serial.
Thank god it didn't 'brick' my phone.. a softset brings my phone back to normal. I have tried this twice.. but same error problems...
I just want to get the GPS workings with my currently ROM with live search or google maps OR install this new ROM and get the GPS working with the same 2 programs.
If anyone can assist it will GREATLY be appreicated!!! I hope have i provided enough details for some of you PROs out there to assist me... lol.. hopefully I am not doing something stupidly wrong!
Thank you,
Chris
ps: In regards to my above post, I have tried the recommended baud rate of 4800, 9600, and even 57600..in the GPS settings again.. no luck...
Thank you,
Chris.
Hello did you upgrade the radio rom???
If not go here and do it,
you really nead that...
RADIO_ROM_1.38.00.11_Only_SSPL.rar
Hi Audsim.
Thank you kindly for the note and the link. I have already downloaded it.
Is this all I need to get the GPS working?
Yes you have to update also the radio part to enable the gps on your device...
Ausdim,
Thank you very much for you help. The radio update ROM installed perfectly!
I thought I would also mention that I found a 'work around' for the LVSW install problem (referenced in my post above) for those that might have the same problem.
Every time, I would try and install the LVSW ROM... on the last step in the wizard, I would get an error on my laptop 'connection error - can't communicate with the pda' and I would get a colored screen on my phone.
Before, I would just unplug the USB from the phone, do a soft reset to bring the phone back to normal and try again.
What worked, is that I left the USB plugged in after this error. I close the install app down and reopenned it (yes the phone was still on the colored screen).. then I would go through the install wizard again..and it worked!!
Very odd behavour as I followed the provided installation instructions to the T, but atleast I got it working and all is well!
Thank you again!
Regards,
Chris
Hi all,
I have successfully unlocked and flashed my phone with the HTC Rom together with the french (newer) radio ROM. The problem I am having is that Google Maps cant connect to the internal GPS. I have set the port to com 1 and have manually set this in google maps too but this (same as automatic) doesnt seem to work. Has anyone tried this and/or got it to work ? If yes, what settings did you use?
sorry, this should have belonged into the normal kaiser forum not the upgrading one... admins please move thanks !!!!
I also had some trouble initially getting Google maps to display GPS info. First of all, I'd set the Track Location settings back to Automatic/Windows Managed. Next, make sure you're in a location that can receive a decent GPS signal and stand still.... I'm usually able to acquire a signal within 10-20 seconds. To know whether or not the GPS receiver has in fact kicked on, watch the indicator light on the upper right side. It should blink blue-orange-blue-orange over and over indicating that the GPS is active.
pencilcase said:
Hi all,
I have successfully unlocked and flashed my phone with the HTC Rom together with the french (newer) radio ROM. The problem I am having is that Google Maps cant connect to the internal GPS. I have set the port to com 1 and have manually set this in google maps too but this (same as automatic) doesnt seem to work. Has anyone tried this and/or got it to work ? If yes, what settings did you use?
sorry, this should have belonged into the normal kaiser forum not the upgrading one... admins please move thanks !!!!
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Three things. First try the search button - This question has been asked God knows bow many times and answered as many.
Second by changing the com port on your GPS you may have necessitated a hard reset - there is a posting here and on modaco that says playing with the com ports screws the GPS till hard reset. (use search to find it here)
Three - if thats not the case then its a know issue with google maps - you have to start another GPS program and aquire a fix that way - then google maps will work fine. Google doesnt allow enough time for a fix itself.
You will also find that it's Com 4, NOT Com1
Hi guys!
Im freaking out! I have a Dutch MDA Vario3 and I just cant seem to get the GPS to work. Tomtom can find the intern gps but no signal! I waited for about an hour today and yesterday it didnt work also..somebody can help me out? I use tomtom 6.032
help me out will yah...
try using the gps test first or quickgps before tomtom.
kidd78 said:
try using the gps test first or quickgps before tomtom.
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I did quickgps for about ten times!
gps test?
thx for your reply
Were you indoors? Did you move to a different location? You might want to test it with an external gps receiver or try a standalone gps unit (if you can borrow one). Try and find something that is more sensitive than the Kaiser, and, in the same location, see if you can get a signal.
My point is, you might just be in a bad spot. This happens to me at work all the time, it never picks up a signal, even after an hour of searching.
you must set the right com ports up
find out which port gps is on ie. usually com7
go into config (tomtom) annd then guide the tomtom to com7
it will work took me a couple of days to work it out then seemed so obvious
The above advice is all pretty good. If this is the first time you have used tomtom then it can take a good while.
I am assuming tomtom shows the message "no valid GPS signal" after showing briefly the message "No GPS device". If so this is good. It means your com ports are set correctly.
There are two things to be sure of though:
1.
You have aclear view of the sky - especially on the first occassion you get a fix.
2.
Make sure you have a suitable map in the correct location. Obviously getting a fix when there is no map or the map is in the wrong directory will not succeed.
Did quick GPS work and give you a "valid until" date?
GPS test is a nice simple app that will show you the port number you are on so you can make sure tomtom is using the same one. BUT if tomtom only fails at the no valid signal stage then I think your ports are fine.
Finally, some fatal problems can occur if you have changed entries in the "external GPS" settings. This might (according to some folk) require a hard reset to correct. But try the above first.
Mike
Check this thread first..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330412
Try GPSViewer and select the port settings manually and choose "Open GPS".
You should see some som action through GPS strings in the Setup page.
Then try with TomTom or Google Maps.
I never had issues with TomTom, but google map was having hard time initializing. But after using GPSViewer, it works pretty neat and quick!
arunprakashr said:
Check this thread first..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330412
Try GPSViewer and select the port settings manually and choose "Open GPS".
You should see some som action through GPS strings in the Setup page.
Then try with TomTom or Google Maps.
I never had issues with TomTom, but google map was having hard time initializing. But after using GPSViewer, it works pretty neat and quick!
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It tests all com-ports,but gpsviewer cant find anything..
While it is true that you can screw yourself if you mess with the external GPS settings, you might not have to hard reset. Check the Kaiser Wiki; all the way at the bottom, you'll find links to the registry settings for the internal GPS. If you follow those steps, and set your TomTom to Other NMEA Receiver, you'll be fine no matter what you did with the external settings.
mikechannon said:
The above advice is all pretty good. If this is the first time you have used tomtom then it can take a good while.
I am assuming tomtom shows the message "no valid GPS signal" after showing briefly the message "No GPS device". If so this is good. It means your com ports are set correctly.
There are two things to be sure of though:
1.
You have aclear view of the sky - especially on the first occassion you get a fix.
2.
Make sure you have a suitable map in the correct location. Obviously getting a fix when there is no map or the map is in the wrong directory will not succeed.
Did quick GPS work and give you a "valid until" date?
GPS test is a nice simple app that will show you the port number you are on so you can make sure tomtom is using the same one. BUT if tomtom only fails at the no valid signal stage then I think your ports are fine.
Finally, some fatal problems can occur if you have changed entries in the "external GPS" settings. This might (according to some folk) require a hard reset to correct. But try the above first.
Mike
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I have the phone since yesterday! All settings are ok! I first had t-mobile ROM on my phone, flashed it over with a dumpped original dutch htc rom. (gps also didnt work at the original rom that was on it from t-mobile)
I live in de centre of the city. No clouds or anything..
Where can I find gps test? I tried GPS Viewer, didnt work at all, cant seem to find any ports. I did hard reset and still..it doesnt work..
Bram87 said:
I have the phone since yesterday! All settings are ok! I first had t-mobile ROM on my phone, flashed it over with a dumpped original dutch htc rom. (gps also didnt work at the original rom that was on it from t-mobile)
I live in de centre of the city. No clouds or anything..
Where can I find gps test? I tried GPS Viewer, didnt work at all, cant seem to find any ports. I did hard reset and still..it doesnt work..
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GPS test here:
http://classic.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=24687&associateid=1224
It would help us to know the following:
1.
When tomtom is on does the amber led for GPS flash?
2
Does tomtom show "no valid GPS signal"?
3
Have you got a local map installed?
4
Did quick GPS download current data?
Mike
1.
When tomtom is on does the amber led for GPS flash?
Jep
2
Does tomtom show "no valid GPS signal"?
also correct
3
Have you got a local map installed?
uuh..west europe map..
4
Did quick GPS download current data?
it says after download "valid for six days and twentythree hours"
So I gues, yes
*thx Mike for helping me so far
Edit* gps test; shows "GPS is starting up"..(slow..)
Mmmm. Did GPS test show any bars in the end?
Mike
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Mmmm. Did GPS test show any bars in the end?
Mike
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Hi mike..
It works..It took some time (alot) but..It works..Hope it keeps working!
Thank you and wish you a happy new year!
Bram87 said:
Hi mike..
It works..It took some time (alot) but..It works..Hope it keeps working!
Thank you and wish you a happy new year!
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Yep, first time around it can take a loooong time. After that it should be faster.
Happy New Year.
Mike
Hello,
I bought a brand new 'HTC - Kaiser' (precisely a 'HTC - TyTN II' directly from Orange in France), in order to replace my old 'HTC - Hermes'.
First, I was surprised not to see a GPS option in the 'Communication Manager'. As you can switch ON/OFF wifi or bluetooth, you should be able to switch ON/OFF the GPS, isn't it ?
Secondly, I installed Tomtom v6.032 on my PPC, but I could not get any signal at all. I went in the options, and tried with all GPS option devices, with no success.
With 'Built-in GPS receiver' and 'Other NMEA GPS receiver' options, I always have "No valid GPS signal !". Do I have to start GPS somewhere on my PPC before starting TomTom ?
Thirdly, I looked for help on xda-developers.com here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1735972&postcount=112
I followed his recommendations, I changed:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\GPSOnePort]
"CommPort"="COM1:" (instead of: "COM0:")
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Multiplexer]
"DriverInterface"="COM0:" (instead of "COM4:"
And it after this I could have some signal. But then after shutting down Tomtom and reopen or after a soft reset, it does not work any more, at all ! What happens ? I don't understand.
Why my GPS just not work out of the box ?
Please help ! I switch to the Kaiser for the GPS feature, and it does not work :'(
I tried all my test outside with a clear weather, waiting for about 3 minutes each time.
it should work right out of the box.
for me (i have a tilt) gps is on com4. i use tomtom and you have to make sure the correct com port.
I could be wrong but I believe that in tomtom if you get the message "no valid GPS signal" that actually means every thing is set up correctly. you just need to wait, could take some time. tomtom starts the gps itself. watch the leds on the phone. when GPS is on the right LED will flash.
you may want to check out some other programs. tomtom does seem to take a little longer to get a fix in my opinion.
BTW check out my signature, you can use navizon and make some money once you get that gps working
There's no seperate GPS connection. The GPS just uses your data connection. If you can connect to 3G, then your GPS will also work. Try using Google Maps and clicking "Use GPS", leave your phone in one spot for a few minutes and see if you can get some sattelites that way.
As always, someome smarter can correct me if I'm wrong, but this is from my experience.
There is no way to "turn on" gps, programs access it when they need it, and it's off when they don't
Your first fix can take up to 45 minutes, although min eonly took about 5.
If you look in the extracted HTC cabs threads, you can find a program called "HTC GPS tool" Run this and select "clear memory" as the option, and that'll get a fix after a while. after that, After soft resets you should use "cold start", I think...
After this has fgot a fix you can use other programs on the COM4 channel.
Hope this helps
I have had my Tilt for about 2 months. Recently, I took a trip from L.A. to N.Y.C. As soon as I got to NYC, I ran QuickGPS, but was entirely unable to get GPS to work at all during the week I was there (queens, manhattan, roads, etc).
I posted an inquiry about backing up and hard resets. Rather than getting an answer to the question, I was given direction to make sure my GPS really didn't work.
That chain pushed me to GPS Test v1.04 by Chartcross. It is free, and can found on the web and on this forum. In NY I could not get a signal no matter what even running it.
When I landed in LA I ran it again ... it stayed at "Starting Up" for a while, but then miraculously started showing bars.
So --- I recommend that you (1) run Quick GPS, (2) install this program, and (3) let it run and run and run. Also make sure you are in an area where GPS is accessible.
It can take a very long time to get GPS to work on the tilt. Many times, it takes longer to find a signal than the trip you were hoping to TomTom through. Its the nature of the beast.
chris247 said:
I tried all my test outside with a clear weather, waiting for about 3 minutes each time.
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Yep, like all the others have said leave it fore longer. 3 mins isn't enough time. If after 30-45mins of being left in one place (no moving it around!) with a clear view of the sky for the first time and TomTom is still saying "No valid GPS signal" then start worrying...
Thank for your enthusiasm. I carefully read your post, here is want I discovered:
You mentionned about having a 3G data connection. First I was wondering why do you talked about that: this as nothing to do with GPS. Then I thought I should give it a try. Up to now, I haven't yet put my SIM card in my brand new 'HTC - Kaiser'. I didn't mention it in my 1st post, as I though it could not have a link with my GPS problem. I put the SIM card in the phone, then started Tomtom, I was surprised to see that a 3G data connection was automatically started, and a few seconds later, the GPS worked perfectly.
I can't believe it, I could not have the GPS working because there was no SIM card in my phone !
First I thought that the data connection was for retrieving Tomtom traffic info online, but then I discoved that even with 'HTC - GPS Tool v1.1.1.0', a 3G data connection is started prior to getting my localization.
I read about QuickGPS, and learnt that it is the thing that causes the 3G data connection to start prior to getting my localization.
Why is QuickGPS starting automatically ? Is QuickGPS compulsory for localization ? Can I stop this behavior and have everything running through GPS ?
Chris
MAYBE IF YOU TR THIS ONE
I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM AND IT WORKED FOR ME
JUST ASSIGN THE INCOMING PORT TO COM4, AND OUTGOING VIRTUAL COM5
http://www.plunder.com/GPSGate-download-37727.htm
GPS and 3G have nothing to do with each other. They are too completely different things.
GPS does not need 3G to function!
Some GPS programs (like google maps), do require a internet connection to download data, thats when 3G comes in (not necessary, could use wifi and gprs instead).
What is strange is that in Orange ROM (at least in France), a GPRS connection is made automatically each time you want to use your GPS. If the GPRS connection is NOT successful, you can not use the GPS (with tomtom, or any other testing GPS tool). How can I change this behavior ? I do not have an unlimited GPRS subscription !
chris247 said:
What is strange is that in Orange ROM (at least in France), a GPRS connection is made automatically each time you want to use your GPS. If the GPRS connection is NOT successful, you can not use the GPS (with tomtom, or any other testing GPS tool). How can I change this behavior ? I do not have an unlimited GPRS subscription !
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It's required GPRS connection because you might have selected tomtom plus services such as Traffic, Weather. Just to be sure, take out your SIM or turn off the radio to see what happen. BTW, flash a different ROM is another choice.
Did you installed Google Navigator as my Kaisers GPS unit stopped to work after i installed GN?
On Orange ROM (in France), everytime you want to get GPS, you first have to connect to the Internet. It is not link with TomTom Plus, because even with HTC GPS tool software, you need to let the phone automatically connect to the Orange network prior to getting your location with the GPS. If you do NOT have a SIM card and the possibility to connect online with your phone, you get NO GPS location.
Please, help
chris247 said:
On Orange ROM (in France), everytime you want to get GPS, you first have to connect to the Internet. It is not link with TomTom Plus, because even with HTC GPS tool software, you need to let the phone automatically connect to the Orange network prior to getting your location with the GPS. If you do NOT have a SIM card and the possibility to connect online with your phone, you get NO GPS location.
Please, help
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As NGHIEM said above, flash a new ROM and this behaviour will stop. Try Duttys or Schaps for best stability etc.
I am using an AT&T Tilt with Garmin Mobile XT and there is an option to turn off Internet Data (Traffic, weather, etc.) in Garmin. If I want to use the GPS with no radios on I have to disable the Internet Data option otherwise the program tries to make that connection first and never acquires a fix. That may be part of your problem. I also just tried the HTC GPS Tool with no SIM card in flight mode and it got a fix in under 2 minutes inside my house by a window. Garmin also started fine. The GPS is an independent receiver and should require no other data. It appears that some other program is starting along with the GPS and trying to access the Internet. Like others have said before you can probably solve your problem by flashing a new rom.
I think I have found the solution:
- In the registry change:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"EnableAGPS"=0 (instead of: 1)
Now everytime I use my GPS (with HTC GPS Tool, or Tomtom), the automatic GPRS connection is not started !
Please give your feedback about this.
Que_EN_Unlock_All_.zip file
Hi,
I am looking for this file to do the Garmin mobile XT installation. This file, Que_EN_Unlock_All_.zip, is not available at rapidshare.
Can you help please?
Regards.
Pieter
pvblomm said:
Hi,
I am looking for this file to do the Garmin mobile XT installation. This file, Que_EN_Unlock_All_.zip, is not available at rapidshare.
Can you help please?
Regards.
Pieter
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What is this file about ?
I've searched and searched but couldn't find it (only references to it in other ROMs). Could someone either please post the HTC GPS Tool.cab or point me in the right direction as to where I can find it?
I know it's in a couple of ROM releases, but I'm happy with what I have now and just want that file.
Thanks, guys!
EDIT: Nevermind, guys. I found it. Thanks!
No card is found
I have installed TomTom on my new Kaiser and downloaded the free citymap, but when I then run TomTom it says: No card is found. What am I doing wrong?
Hi,
I just received my Diamond and I couldn't find any way to turn on the GPS. Weird huh? There is no reference in the manual on how to turn it on at all.
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
You don't turn it on. If an application needs it it comes on by itself. For example - look at Google Maps - it uses the phone masts to get your position. Go to the menu - select Use GPS and it will then get a GPS fix and give you a more accurate position.
Ok, that clear things up for me... but the weird thing is, I'm not getting any signal at all, even in open space. I have my Garmin Bluetooth sitting beside the Diamond and it is getting signal from the satellites.
Ok, I tried hard reset the device and now the GPS is working. The store which I bought the device from, pre-installed tons of software in it. Maybe some of the software interfere with the internal GPS.
Thanks TheBrit for replying in just 2 minutes.
warning
If you Use the Advanced Configuration Tool DONT USE ASSITED GPS do NOT ENABLE IT! Because there are some troubles. Otherwise you will need to hardreset your device.
charly_mx said:
If you Use the Advanced Configuration Tool DONT USE ASSITED GPS do NOT ENABLE IT! Because there are some troubles. Otherwise you will need to hardreset your device.
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Agreed.