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QUALCOMM(R) 7201 chip on my Tilt.

I just received a warranty replacement for my ATT Tilt (reception problem, it would drop signal and not pick it up again, not in a 3g area). I checked the device info to see if they had preloaded the updated rom--they did--and in the hardware section they listed the chip as a 7201, not a 7200 like my old one.
So, what is the difference between the 7200 and the 7201? I did a seach and couldn't really find anything.
Thanks.

o wow this may be very important actually.
have you noticed any graphical improvement?

mikeeey said:
o wow this may be very important actually.
have you noticed any graphical improvement?
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I must admit, sheepishly, that I haven't done anything with it yet. I don't have time to string out the restore process, and I don't want to just restore from a backup, so I'm collecting all the cabs I need, at the moment. I should have it up completely tomorrow night.
Is there any file or anything I should be looking for?

sharpja said:
I must admit, sheepishly, that I haven't done anything with it yet. I don't have time to string out the restore process, and I don't want to just restore from a backup, so I'm collecting all the cabs I need, at the moment. I should have it up completely tomorrow night.
Is there any file or anything I should be looking for?
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OK,
I ran VSBenchmark--sound off--and got the following:
graphics: 1254
Others: 2178
JPEG: 2612
games: 1540
Sound: 0592
final score: 1635
so according to this, it's not any faster.

ugh..who knows.. maybe its nothing lol.
but i thought i remember hearing that the P6500 had this chip or something?

I just got my tilt last week and it also has the 7201 not any faster than other tilts though

mikeeey said:
o wow this may be very important actually.
have you noticed any graphical improvement?
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For some reason this reply really makes me laugh inside. What your seeing is (my guess) the oem chip number finally being shown. This is the chip with the video gpu turned off. Why does everyone think it's going to be something better?

ChumleyEX said:
This is the chip with the video gpu turned off.
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/cry... Seriously, I've given up hoping for awesome video performance from my Tilt. I'm running Dutty's latest release and it is plenty fast enough for me. I barely use my phone for talking, let alone video playback. We'll just have to wait for the Xperia to come out.

ChumleyEX said:
For some reason this reply really makes me laugh inside. What your seeing is (my guess) the oem chip number finally being shown. This is the chip with the video gpu turned off. Why does everyone think it's going to be something better?
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I was afraid of that. So, same chip, but new number to reflect what we <i>really</i> have.

In my not so humble opinion, I would say that maybe Qualcomm caught enough heat from people like us that they started requiring new phone to go out with the 7201 name instead of the 7200. Now they will have something to fall back on. Also the way that HTC has worded some of their replies to us just gives me the impression that this chip has been modded for them. Which is normal.

ChumleyEX said:
For some reason this reply really makes me laugh inside. What your seeing is (my guess) the oem chip number finally being shown. This is the chip with the video gpu turned off. Why does everyone think it's going to be something better?
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hey i was thinking that too, either improvement, or a big nail thru the processor disabling any possible drivers.

QUALCOMM(R) 7201 vs 7200 chip
I just got my new Tilt from at&t today for a warranty swap. I checked it out hoping there would be a new ROM release on it. There wasn't. I checked the Device Info and to my surprise it was a different chip. Normally it's the 7200. This one has the 7201. I am wondering if this is common where some Kaisers come with the 7201 or if it's a new release. I searched Google and was unable to find any info. Here are some pictures.
I'm unsure that it's anything but I have noticed that my new tilt runs much faster and smoother. There could be a few different reasons but my old one never seemed to run this fast.
I am using the at&t wm6.1 test rom on both.

Here is mine. Thats odd. I haven't seen that. Maybe someone can clarify.

P1Tater said:
Here is mine. Thats odd. I haven't seen that. Maybe someone can clarify.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385347
Multiple people saying it. Someone else said it's an OEM spin w/ the graphics disabled...

hmm my tytnII is 7200 as well...maybe tilts have 7201?

my tilt is 7200

I just got my warranty replacement today and it too has the 7201 chip. I couldn't find this thread so I started my own.
Mine seems faster and smoother. Significantly. It's possible it's because of something I did to my old Tilt but I really don't think I did anything but it's possible. I'm benchmarking in coreplayer and I'll try spb benchmark, but it's not likely i'll find anything.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2121403#post2121403

When I say significantly, I don't mean like it has the drivers. It just feels much faster.

idj1975 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385347
Multiple people saying it. Someone else said it's an OEM spin w/ the graphics disabled...
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My bad. I didnt realize that was what that thread was about. I haven't even looked in it until you linked it. My apologies.

My coreplayer test were inconclusive. My new tilt came out ahead but by very little after a few runs. Every time it was more but not by much.

What abaout 3d drivers?

Is anybody working at 3d driver from kaiser?

i currently have a LOT of my more techy geek friends looking at the kaiser to see what they can do, but they have had the phone for a month and have history of writing drivers and right now they don't look promising. maybe others with more software/drivers programming background are working at it but i wouldn't expect anything anytime soon. the phone has been out for a year and no one anywhere has written drivers for it

In htc daimond rom are 3d drivers?

d112 said:
Is anybody working at 3d driver from kaiser?
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What about them??? We sure as hell aint gettin them

livefastdiefun87 said:
What about them??? We sure as hell aint gettin them
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not sure what your talking about.. they work great!

d112 said:
Is anybody working at 3d driver from kaiser?
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What application are you running or needing to run on a kaiser requires 3D graphics???
I don't think WoW is getting a PPC port any time soon.
shogunmark said:
not sure what your talking about.. they work great!
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Obviously so, the newer 6.1 roms (most of them) have improved video.

shogunmark said:
not sure what your talking about.. they work great!
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lmao ... hahaha ..
3d drivers .. yeah they are stunt racing right now. I'll let them know you want them as soon as they come home. Just to let you know: they are expensive so be prepared to pay the price they demand.

SouthernLuke said:
Obviously so, the newer 6.1 roms (most of them) have improved video.
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hahahaha ... please stop my stomach is hurting 'cuz of laughter ... lol

Whats The Problem??
Had to add my P.O.V
My Kaiser does exactly what I want it to do now it is upgraded. (Thanks L26 vers 5)
As far as drivers for 3d go, tom tom works perfectly fine, videos play top notch, worms world party is faultless, quake plays nice enough. Who needs anything more?
The Kaiser is a fantastic little device when you consider what it does for the money. A short while ago I was getting fed up with video playback and the odd internet problem when scrolling. But as far as I am concerned, my little baby is wonderful and out performs any of the previous devices I have owned since the newer rom updates for 6.1 have become the norm and have been tweaked by the generosity of all those who stand infront of a hot over (EVEN when on vacation.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396882
Nicholas

thesire said:
lmao ... hahaha ..
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while it may seem a little funny... ever wonder why the gxmark on cooked roms when from the 500-700's to 1500+???
im not saying its the complete solution.. but its a [email protected] good start...

shogunmark said:
while it may seem a little funny... ever wonder why the gxmark on cooked roms when from the 500-700's to 1500+???
im not saying its the complete solution.. but its a [email protected] good start...
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as good as it is its still not the same as having fully functioning drivers

shogunmark said:
while it may seem a little funny... ever wonder why the gxmark on cooked roms when from the 500-700's to 1500+???
im not saying its the complete solution.. but its a [email protected] good start...
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i think i need to clairfy myself:
mark i thought u were being sarcastic when you wrote that you were running the drivers so i took it as a joke and cracked up if you were, however, serious than my apologize didn't mean to blow off what you were saying as a joke.
Hope this clears up the air. i have gxmark on leos rom that i am running right now and it is definitley an improvement in the rom, however i don't think its the full drivers that we all had our hopes for

How do I overclock t-wing beyond 247?

Hi everyone!
I have a t-mobile wing and overclocked it to 247mhz with battery status. I have read in some posts that some people have it overclocked up to 274 or beyond, but everytime I try to overclock beyond 247 it just freezzes. Any trick on how to raise the speed?

r u using a stock t-mobile rom?

guntcent said:
r u using a stock t-mobile rom?
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I just bought my wing over ebay and installed right away the baterry status... i'm not really knowledgeable as to this phones... so i guess im using a std rom.

jorgebarriga said:
I just bought my wing over ebay and installed right away the baterry status... i'm not really knowledgeable as to this phones... so i guess im using a std rom.
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na man just go look up some roms on this site n ull find alot of good rom n tmobile rom sucks n roms on this site is like 50 times better than those

Overclocking past 247
Same problem here; sometimes 247 gets the problem; but ..
Basically when it bursts up past that; the display gets verticle lines and ends up all messed up; it will straighten itself out when the burst kicks it back down a nothc; if i set it to a higher rate (not a burst) then I can still change it back (granted i can't see the screen i can only hit the right keys) so the phones not freezing the display is just not handling the cpu spike;
I've tried it on many many different roms; I don't think that's the problem..

Not all CPU's can handle the extra speed. Just like desktop CPU's.

ivanmmj said:
Not all CPU's can handle the extra speed. Just like desktop CPU's.
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damn... so basically, i have to accept my fate? lol!

jorgebarriga said:
damn... so basically, i have to accept my fate? lol!
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lol. Yep, unfortunately.

Touch Pro Overclocked - Overclocking the X1 - is it finally possible?

Anyone managed to find this software and give it a go?
The Touch Pro has finally been overclocked.......
Anyone care to try this on their X1?
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/09/06/Touch-Pro-running-at-800MHZ.aspx

does not work, forces the device to auto restart.
However, the creator is working hard to get one that works

Even if a X1 version is released, the only thing you might achieve is to fry your cpu and destroy the device years earlier than its expected lifetime.

How about Temp and Battery life, is it worthed ?

ok this OC tool worked for me today i had x1 at 768mhz and it was fast but then i started an program and the phone froze so.. there is still alot of work on that app..

the phone froze or restated...

Chaosstorm said:
ok this OC tool worked for me today i had x1 at 768mhz and it was fast but then i started an program and the phone froze so.. there is still alot of work on that app..
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How did you do that I tried that program and the maximum frequency in my x1 was 528 mhz

Chaosstorm said:
ok this OC tool worked for me today i had x1 at 768mhz and it was fast but then i started an program and the phone froze so.. there is still alot of work on that app..
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lol how could you tell if it was fast if you couldn't open programs?

DatDereX1 said:
lol how could you tell if it was fast if you couldn't open programs?
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Hahaha!!! I was waiting the whole day for someone to ask this.

LOL, the only way to check is with nueclockcontrol rofl.

Can't install software
ddevey said:
Anyone managed to find this software and give it a go?
The Touch Pro has finally been overclocked.......
Anyone care to try this on their X1?
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/09/06/Touch-Pro-running-at-800MHZ.aspx
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Hi all.
I tried to install the neucontrol software but when I run the cab my xperia says that the program was uninstallable.
I was using a custom rom, the energy rom, standard version. I haven't tried installing it with a different rom.

orelsi said:
Even if a X1 version is released, the only thing you might achieve is to fry your cpu and destroy the device years earlier than its expected lifetime.
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As the same arguement for Pc overclocking, the lifespan of a cpu is many years beyond what you are likely to use it. I.e the phone could last for less than 5years for all I care, 2years in fact as Ill upgrade to xperia 2 so I might has well "fry" it and gain a faster smooth and more enjoyable experience in return for a shorter lifespan.

phoenix3dfx225 said:
As the same arguement for Pc overclocking, the lifespan of a cpu is many years beyond what you are likely to use it. I.e the phone could last for less than 5years for all I care, 2years in fact as Ill upgrade to xperia 2 so I might has well "fry" it and gain a faster smooth and more enjoyable experience in return for a shorter lifespan.
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I prefer to keep my tech working even after I stop using it. After all, you never know when you might need a backup device. Different points of view about this, I guess.

I agree with orelsi..I'd like my device to be in good condition even though I won't be using it anymore...you never know, you might come up short on dough with your plans of buying the x2 or x3 and selling ur x1 might give some additional cash for u to finally buy that device...of course if it's fried, no one will buy it or u'll only be able to sell it dirt cheap, for parts or whatever

orelsi said:
I prefer to keep my tech working even after I stop using it. After all, you never know when you might need a backup device. Different points of view about this, I guess.
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Indeed, this is very true

on my x1 freze quickly

somebody thought about downclocking the cpu? maybee some MHZ less could double the akku duration??!! =)
this would be mutch more interesting fo me instead overclocking this littel cpu xD
greetz

You would make the phone useless, for anything else than calling. I would prefer multitasking and good performance over battery any day.

waw it worked for me...
i install the tool and my phone way connected to pc with activesync and it ran at 800 mhz ,i was like (damn thats how the phone should run,smooth scroling in main menu ,benchmarked with sktools and got waw results ).
BUT when i took usb out of pc my x1 froze and i had to softreset.
and i couldnt run it again in my x1(now when i run it,it freeze or restart)
what a shame ,i hope the tool get stable so i can run x1 at 800.

orelsi said:
You would make the phone useless, for anything else than calling. I would prefer multitasking and good performance over battery any day.
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You having a laugh, slow enough as they are!

anyone brick with oc_uv?

Has anyone had any real trouble using the overclocked/undervolted kernels?
Thanks

You cannot brick ur phone by flashing a new kernel... currently, the only thing we can flash which will brick the phone is the radio... And most people will not have any problems with UV or OV kernels... some might face problems like random reboots or bootloops with the extra UV kernels...

craigacgomez said:
You cannot brick ur phone by flashing a new kernel... currently, the only thing we can flash which will brick the phone is the radio... And most people will not have any problems with UV or OV kernels... some might face problems like random reboots or bootloops with the extra UV kernels...
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Can't you burn your processor out?

you can by over clocking it but you would notice the extreme heat from the phone. under clocking no you cant i've been using it for a while with no problems.

th3fallen said:
you can by over clocking it but you would notice the extreme heat from the phone. under clocking no you cant i've been using it for a while with no problems.
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and you can set a SetCPU profile to slow the processor down when they phone gets hot.

Its funny that this thread exists, cause my girlfriend left my phone in the car while the SetCPU was 111300MIN AND MAX, and I live in Arizona. Needless to say I don't have an N1 anymore

but its 4-1-10, so not really

wesbalmer said:
but its 4-1-10, so not really
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that was an april fools joke that didn't really make sense. Did your phone fry in the sun?
If so it wasn't because of it being overclocked. One weekend I left a credit card in a car, needless to say, when I opened the car door on monday, it was bent to the shape of my seat.

LOL I was bout to say....
wesbalmer said:
but its 4-1-10, so not really
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wesbalmer said:
Its funny that this thread exists, cause my girlfriend left my phone in the car while the SetCPU was 111300MIN AND MAX, and I live in Arizona. Needless to say I don't have an N1 anymore
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checks date...april first.
checks for joke...melted phone? claiming to have a girlfriend?

deprecate said:
checks date...april first.
checks for joke...melted phone? claiming to have a girlfriend?
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haha ... in the words of fez... A-BURN!