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Guys,
Anyone has solution to put widcomm into BA's WM 5.0?
Really really wan it man!!! no Widcomm my stereo headset is wasted...
This is really the most fundamental problem....sigh...
Cheers
At this moment, only MS BT stack works under WM5 so far.
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efjay said:
Here's something i found on the pdaphonehome forums http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53643 originally posted by Superdave
Quote from pdaphonehome forums
"Widcomm BT Stack working
After all kinds of messing I finally got the widcomm stack working on the i730. Im still exploring and have alot of testing and documenting to do, but, I just thought I would post a progress thread.
,Dave
Tested and working Profiles..
DUN (Dialup Networking)
Serial
FTP
A2DP (High Quality Audio)
File Transfer
Business Card Exchange ( OBEX )
Network Access (PAN)
Ok,
Here's the first rough. These instructions worked from a hard reset for me.
Using registry Editor
Go to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Transports\Builtin\3 and rename the value "name" to "aname"
That will disble the MS bluetooth stack, but, still allow it to intialize the radio.
--Soft Reset.
Download BT3900.CAB fromhttp://www.myehud.com/xv6600/bluetooth/, copy it to the phone and install it.
In reg editor go to HKLM\Software\Widcom\BTConfig\General
Change TransportLibrary to "BtCeBCSPTrans.dll"
Change RadioInitLibrary to ""
Change RadioInitPostLoadScript to ""
Change RadioWLanCoexEnable to ""
Change RadioWLanCoexDisableScript to ""
In reg editor go to HKLM\Drivers\Builtin\Serial
Change driver to anemo_serial.dll
In reg editor go to HKLM\Software\Widcom\BTConfig\SerialTransport
Change Parity to 2
Change Port to 5
In reg editor go to HKLM\Software\Widcom\BTConfig\Services\0001
Change ComPortNumber to 2
In reg editor go to HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\Serial5
Change DeviceArrayIndex to 2
Change Index to 2
Create a shortcut in Windows\Startup pointing to \windows\BTTrayCE.exe
--Soft Reset
You can now turn the radio on from the icon on the today screen (lower right).
If desired you can also install the A2DP patch from http://www.myehud.com/xv6600/bluetooth/
If you get license expired after a few seconds (you should). You'll need to copy over the
BTTrayCe.exe from the working dir of the bt-ppc.1.5.0.0801.rar you can find here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...xpired&start=50
Notes
If the radio turns on but you cant detect devices check your mac address
You can check you Macaddress by going to HKLM\Microsoft\Blueooth\i730 and looking at the key MACADDRESS.
If you go to settings\accessibility in the widcomm bt stack with the radio on the addresses should match.
If they dont match you'll need to turn your radio off, soft-reset then turn it back on.
You should be able to switch between the 2 stacks by changing the aname back to name under transports"
Looking through the thread it appears to have worked for some people. I tried it myself but was getting an error. I also couldnt find the driver he mentioned "anemo_serial.dll". I would think as the BA radio works with the 3900 stack already it may be possible to get it working under WM5. Anyone with any ideas?
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Just tried. does not work, insufficent driver memory.
****. DO NOT try that tuturial. After i did that, my BA couldn't detect the GSM radio anymore, i had to Hard Reset....
I have posted This thread to assist anyone like me, who is not a programming whiz. Got to Install this mainly through trial and error and I am not an expert in this. So If anyone can make my steps easier please do!
This is a Variation Installation For a thread a while back in October 2005 Author Ncruz and effjay. Ncruz Posted a wm5 cab. This cab does not install directly due to permissions. However I have extracted the files using windows cab manager.
First are the files are required in windows. If it asks about permissions copy to PDA root folder then copy with Resco File Explorer and overwrite. Next are the registry files. You can import them with a registry program such as tre or regedit.
If you want Microsoft Voice commands to be the default program overwrite SSDialer.exe in windows folder with Voicecmd.exe from Program files/Voice command/ otherwise Cyberon Voice is initiated when you press headset.
I will post the cab in its entirity although it will not install, incase someone knows an easier method to get voice commands working Please contibute to this thread. However this method worked for me. Below in the zip are the files Extracted with Win Cab manager in zip format so you can copy zip to your pda then extract them to the correct folders, along with the registry files you need to import to registry.
N.B..sound of Voice commands is through PDA and not headset. Pressing headset connect button opens Cyberon or active voice command depending on what you have
Can not seem to be able to import the reg files....
OKay, got the files to import and the files copied - no go for me. Darn-it.
Installation
did you do a soft reset with the software built with the rom and repair the bluetooth headset
I might have reset without using the software reset....
However, got it working with this cab file that I found on my storage card. I even got MS Voice Command to work when I hit my BT Headset button.
Heck, it did not even change the record button to SSDialer! I would have thought it would but it did not. So, I am happy!
glad its working for you
now how can i do?
download odie3 's cab file and install? that's right?
Then, when device auto turn off, bt still go off as before?
I can't download files..... Where can I get them?
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kriengkrai said:
download odie3 's cab file and install? that's right?
Then, when device auto turn off, bt still go off as before?
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The only way I know how to keep BT on is by plugging in my Device to a power source and doing a soft-reset. As long as I do not turn it off with the power button or have it set to auto-power off while plug in, BT will stay on. I do this everytime I get into my car - since it takes me a hour [sometimes more] to get home, so my BT Headset always works.
Hopefully I explained that correctly for you to understand....
Odie
Your query confirmed. The Wlan manager icon from the today screen goes as a side effect of installing the cab. Wifi still works but the Icon in today is not there. Not a big deal for me, as I have skinned my Pda with Wisbar, which has a wifi icon.
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Your query confirmed. The Wlan manager icon from the today screen goes as a side effect of installing the cab. Wifi still works but the Icon in today is not there. Not a big deal for me, as I have skinned my Pda with Wisbar, which has a wifi icon.
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Yes it happened to me as well, but i prefer BT Voice Command Activation than WLAN icon
Thanks for the info
BT activation doesn't work for me...
For some reason the activation through BT headset doesn not work for me.
I'm using WM5 TuMa 1.3 ROM.
The BA_WM5_Voice_Dialer_2.cab doesn't install on my device (permission violation), so I copied the files manually to the Windows folder.
The reg files also don't import to my registry when double-clicking, so I made the changes manually.
It still doesn't work.
Now, when I hit the button of my BT headset (Moto HS-810), the standard dialer is activated (instead of the voice command app) and I hear hissing sounds in the headset.
I tried it both with Cyberon and MS apps. Both don't work.
Did anyone encounter this problem? Anyone solved it?
Thanks.
anyone knpow how to do this with voice command on 2003se?
Just upgraded to TuMa 1.3 and have found a MUCH more simple way of doing it.
1) Install Microsoft Voice Command
2) Download Total Commander (http://www.ghisler.com/ce.htm)
3) Using Total Commander change the read only tickbox for \windows\sddialer.exe so that there is no tick (1 press just greys it out, i needed to press twice) <- browse to \windows in TC and right cick (hold down) on sddialer.exe, and click properties.
4) (you don't need TC for this) Copy %install dir%\voicecmd.exe (where %install dir% is the directory you installed voice command to) to a temporary location and rename it to sddialer.exe.
5) (using TC) 'Right click' on your new sddialer.exe (previoult voicecmd.exe) and select 'cut to clipboard' then navigate to \windows\ and 'right click' and select 'paste from clipboard', when propted overwrite the origional file.
6) press the button on your headset and test it!
the only thing we need now is for some clever person to work out how to route the voicecmd audio through to the headset instead of the load speaker (to my knowledge it uses the microphone on the headset allready (at least it works when i speak quietly from the next room )
it works like a charm
cheers
Do what Midlet says?
If I do what Midlet says- will I still need the 2 files that mohdwadea has posted? Is Midlet's process a complete stand-alone process... or is if preceded by more steps?
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sgrbhtngr said:
If I do what Midlet says- will I still need the 2 files that mohdwadea has posted? Is Midlet's process a complete stand-alone process... or is if preceded by more steps?
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Have not investigated midlets way of installing as Mine is working. However i suggest that if you check your registry and see if the reg keys i posted within the zip are there. If his way works fine, if it does not i suggest you import the keys into registry and see if that helps. I also strongly suggest you make a note of the keys and where they are imported too, as if it does not work you can remove them.
It worked
Mohdwadea,
Your method worked! This time I performed a soft-reset after the installation and also re-connected the headset. I did not have to go he registry-entry route because the cab-file installed on my device.
This will help me a lot on the road in business. God bless you.
Just glad its working for you!
voice not sending
MOHDWADEA,
I am using this fix a lot on the road. It works very well... expect for in one situation! I can initiate voice dialing by the record button on my device and it accepts voice dialing commands through the bluetooth headset and teh call goes fine.
However, if I initiate the voice dialing using the button on my blueooth headset (Cardo Scala 500), it initiates the voice dial app just fine, accepts commands and conencts the call.... but the other party cannot get my outgoing voice through my bluetooth headset, rather it gets the voice from the mic on my phone. Also, the incoming sound can be heard in my bletooth headset but ALSO on the phone.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Sagar
I-mate PDA 2K
WM5 TuMav1.3
No attempts to claim credit for inventing this process (the PTT fix is in the Wiki, and the Cyberon bit has been around since the Wizard days), but this could be the first time it's been completely posted in one place.
Cheers!
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Step 1. Disable Cyberon
- Delete SDDaemon.lnk in \Windows\Startup
- Delete the Voice Dialer shortcut from \Windows\Start Menu\Programs (or whatever submenu folder it might be in)
[NOTE: if you don't delete the shortcut and accidentally click it (or launch the program directly from File Explorer), you may have to repeat the ENTIRE procedure]
- In each of these registry locations:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ Software \ Microsoft \ Shell \ Extensions \ ContextMenus \ Contacts \ Main_ContextMenu
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ Software \ Microsoft \ Shell \ Extensions \ ContextMenus \ Contacts \ Main_Tools
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ Software \ Microsoft \ Shell \ Extensions \ ContextMenus \ Contacts \ Summary_Tools
----> Remove this key entirely: {2C0E9904-F32D-4f53-875F-479F5CA81E18}
- In this registry location: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ ControlPanel
----> Remove this key entirely: VoiceTagCPL
Step 2. Disable PTT and Enable PTT Button
----> Remove this key entirely: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ Services \ PTT
From HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ Software \ Microsoft \ Shell \ Keys
- Add a new key called "40C6"
- Add a string under the key called "Name" with the value "Button 6"
- Add a new key called "40C7"
- Add a string under this key called "Name" with the value "Button 6 (hold)"
Step 3. Install MSVC 1.6
- Be sure to use the latest build, which can be found at http://www.sendspace.com/file/f48smf
< File Name: MSVC_US_PPC 1.6.17913.CAB Size: 3MB >
NOTE: this is licensed software; you should only download this update if you already have a licensed copy of MSVC 1.6
Step 4. Remap MSVC to PTT button (optional)
Step 5. Pair your headset
You should now be able to initiate MSVC from your BT headset and receive prompts thru its speaker. Finally, I can leave my phone in the case when I want to!
Enjoy!
BT button VC1.6 Activation
I have a HTC branded TytnII and there is no PPT reg entry. Also the keys
From HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys
- Add a new key called "40C6"
- Add a string under the key called "Name" with the value "Button 6"
- Add a new key called "40C7"
- Add a string under this key called "Name" with the value "Button 6 (hold)"
already exist. So..
this didnt work for me. If i push the button on my BT headset it redials the last number.
Button 6 is the Voice command button near the wheel so i cant see how the BT headset button is going to work??
any help would be great as this is then only function missing from a great device.
cheers
Should have mentioned that this has been tested by me only on a Tilt with AT&T stock ROM...
You shouldn't have to worry about the PTT-related steps on a TyTN II (nothing there to disable).
goestoeleven said:
Step 1. Disable Cyberon
[/B]- Delete SDDaemon.lnk in both \Windows\Start Menu and \Windows\Startup
- In these registry locations:
----> Remove this key entirely: {2C0E9904-F32D-4f53-875F-479F5CA81E18}
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So this seems to be a very straight forward process, easily followed by anyone that has any right to be mucking about in a registry. However, ()SDDaemon.lnk does not exist in \Window\Start Menu it does exist in \Windows\Startup
Also, Remove this key entirely... Where the hell is it?
All other steps work fine..
Russ741
well sort off...
The PTT is now maped to VC, very cool works good.
However VC is still not working properly, I can issue commands, (dial, call, time, etc) but the system will not announce calls or appointments. I used the same CAB I have used on previous installs that worked fine before.
Any ideas anyone?
Russ741
the fix
If anyone else is having issues with call announcements look here for the fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333260
Mine is now 100% and I can go back to my real job!
Russ741
Griffy wiffy said:
I have a HTC branded TytnII and there is no PPT reg entry. Also the keys
From HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys
- Add a new key called "40C6"
- Add a string under the key called "Name" with the value "Button 6"
- Add a new key called "40C7"
- Add a string under this key called "Name" with the value "Button 6 (hold)"
already exist. So..
this didnt work for me. If i push the button on my BT headset it redials the last number.
Button 6 is the Voice command button near the wheel so i cant see how the BT headset button is going to work??
any help would be great as this is then only function missing from a great device.
cheers
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I use a plantronic BT head set. To use VC on the tilt I hold the main button down on the head set until I hear the VC chime in. Takes about 4-5 of holding it down until VC kicks in. I hear about 3 or beeps during that time.
Russ741 said:
If anyone else is having issues with call announcements look here for the fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333260
Mine is now 100% and I can go back to my real job!
Russ741
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I can confirm that with the procedure in #1, along with the update CAB from the above link, I'm now getting incoming calls announced, too!
Procedure in #1 has been updated accordingly.
goestoeleven said:
I can confirm that with the procedure in #1, along with the update CAB from the above link, I'm now getting incoming calls announced, too!
Procedure in #1 has been updated accordingly.
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@goestoeleven: did you not put in the registry change?
4. Lastly, you must modify this registry entry in order to use your Bluetooth headset with Voice Command:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand Path = "\Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCmd.exe
That's from your posting and I am pretty sure that is what really fixed my issue. I was using the older ver of MSVC with my wizard and it worked fine. So, unless there is something really different about the OS build on the Tilt, updating the MSVC may have improved on things but I still believe this reg key is what did it.
BTW: I loaded the updated MSVC before I tried the reg change and this ver of MSVC does NOT make that change for you!
I recommend you update post1 to include this step.
Great job on finding that key by the way! THANKS!!!!!!
Russ741
Russ741 said:
@goestoeleven: did you not put in the registry change?
4. Lastly, you must modify this registry entry in order to use your Bluetooth headset with Voice Command:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand Path = "\Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCmd.exe
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This key is not necessary with MSVC 1.6 (it was with MSVC 1.5). I'm running just fine without it.
i still can not initiate voice command from my headset. everything else works fine. i hear announcements, i can answer and hang up phone calls (the voice quality is still horrible), i get reminders, etc. but when i press the button to activate, it just opens the phone app.
is there something missing?
goestoeleven said:
This key is not necessary with MSVC 1.6 (it was with MSVC 1.5). I'm running just fine without it.
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Interesting, I tried a couple different copies of MSVC 1.6, including the CAB I used on my Wizard and didn't get announcements. It wasn't until I loaded the latest ver and put in the reg patch did it start working 100%. I admit I didn't test between the latest ver and the reg change (yeah I know I should have) so I can't say for sure which one did it.
Russ741
diar said:
i still can not initiate voice command from my headset. everything else works fine. i hear announcements, i can answer and hang up phone calls (the voice quality is still horrible), i get reminders, etc. but when i press the button to activate, it just opens the phone app.
is there something missing?
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That's very odd, normally the part that fails (for me at least) is the announcements or ring tone to the BT.
Can you initiate calls from the MSVC mapped key on the phone? That will narrow down if the prob is with the BT, MSVC or the phone itself.
Russ741
yes...i push PTT and VC functions just fine. i'll try that final reg change again and i'll soft reset and see what happens.
EDIT: i still can't initiate calls from the headset, however, this change does seem to have solved the low volume problem for me. just got a call, i heard the caller loud and clear and they heard me no problem.
so one problem down, one to go.
M$ VC still not working properly
I followed step in posting 1 to the letter and everything worked perfectly including caller ID voice announcement over bluetooth. But,when I soft reset or turn my phone off, I do not get voice announcement over bluetooth anymore. HELP!
Thanks! I like this concept ... I'll try it on my AT&T Tilt Rom.
Inconsistent results on various BT devices
Works great on my Jabra BT500.
On my Parrot CK3100 I get the "button only works once" behavior described in another thread - everything is great the first time I initiate VC from the car kit, but after that the phone's speaker and microphone are the only things active.
Next time the phone and car kit connect I get one more button push that works.
Argh. I'll search that other thread again, but I don't recall a fix for the folks that had these probs w/their headsets. (Any pointers are of course welcomed!)
Richard
Thanks a lot. This worked perfect for me. I am using an AT&T Tilt with helmi_c's Kaiser AKU.0.7.0 Cooked ROM and a Plantronics Discovery 655 headset.
VC with wired headset
I have a wired headset (HTC brand) and installed Voice Command, but cant get it to work from the headset button...does anyone know how I can activate from the button on headset?
i guess its safe to say you went into MSVC SETTINGS AND CHANGED the settings to wired headset? there has never been an issue with wired headsets just BT
I have a stereo Jabra BT headset.
When I klik on the button on the headset he starts WMPlayer.
Does anybody know if there is a setting the turn this off?
Now its have a conflict with PocketMusic (v5.04)
Configurable Avrcp_MPplugin.dll interface??
Responsible for the opening is a DLL called Avrcp_MPplugin.dll
where this functionality is hardcoded.
I had a standard HTC Touch that mapped the BT Headset button on my sony HBH-200 to the OK Button. With Mort Player and Pocket Player i was therefore able to pause/play.
Question to community:
1. Is it possible to replace the DLL with the one from HTC Touch on the diamond?
2. if YES can anyone send me the DLL or explain how to do it. Patch Rom Install Update or cook a new Rom?
to: ratzefumm at gmx.net
Need: Avrcp_MPplugin.dll, bta2dp.dll, sbc.dll
(see http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=112637)
3. does a version exist that is configurable? with button mapping or button learning function.
think: BT Command comes via AVRCP from HS so it should be possible to map this commands on demand.
ratzefumm said:
Responsible for the opening is a DLL called Avrcp_MPplugin.dll
where this functionality is hardcoded.
I had a standard HTC Touch that mapped the BT Headset button on my sony HBH-200 to the OK Button. With Mort Player and Pocket Player i was therefore able to pause/play.
Question to community:
1. Is it possible to replace the DLL with the one from HTC Touch on the diamond?
2. if YES can anyone send me the DLL or explain how to do it. Patch Rom Install Update or cook a new Rom?
to: ratzefumm at gmx.net
Need: Avrcp_MPplugin.dll, bta2dp.dll, sbc.dll
(see http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=112637)
3. does a version exist that is configurable? with button mapping or button learning function.
think: BT Command comes via AVRCP from HS so it should be possible to map this commands on demand.
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I'm trying to copy the files off my Mogul for you, to see if that works, but it's apparently a protected file. I can't copy it. I wonder if that's because it's loaded and running? Maybe these files can be extracted from a cooked ROM. Any ideas? I'm very interested in getting this working because I want a Touch Pro. I'm waiting until it comes out for sale through Sprint though. Currently I have a HTC Mogul. One problem I can see right now is if I can't even copy it off the Mogul, how are we going to write over it on the Diamond/Pro? I'm thinking a ROM would have to be cooked up, no?
Okay I tried messing around with my Mogul to see if it was possible to substitute the DLLs on it. I figured if it was, it might be possible to do it on the Touch Diamond/Pro. Unfortunately, I couldn't write over those files or copy them off the device. It is definitely in the ROM and read-only. I even got rid of all the registry entries that referred to it, to make sure it wasn't just file-locked.
The next thing I tried was copying the Tornado Avrcp_MPplugin.dll using a different name. No problem. I called it Avrcp_MPplugin_tor.dll. I then changed the HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{7AAC2B28-5DD1-4052-81DD-E17114EE96B6}\InProcServer32 default value to the new name. Soft reset. This worked. However, again, I only have a Mogul right now, so the best I was hoping for was just not breaking my phone. I can't test to see if this makes a difference for intercepting the AVRCP commands on a Diamond/Pro where the AVRCP is funky.
Can anybody out there with a Diamond/Pro give these steps a shot? Also, this is "hacking" territory, so be sure you know what you are doing so you don't completely brick your phone.
If replacing this DLL doesn't work, there's still the bta2dp.dll and bthutil.dll which have changable registry entries.
EDIT: Don't forget to run Tor_A2DP_cert.cab since the new DLLs are signed by a different CA than the originals.
I am trying to stop my HTC headset using the Touch Flow player on my Pro as it cant cope with the number of files I have. Any ideas on this?
thx1200 said:
Okay I tried messing around with my Mogul to see if it was possible to substitute the DLLs on it. I figured if it was, it might be possible to do it on the Touch Diamond/Pro. Unfortunately, I couldn't write over those files or copy them off the device. It is definitely in the ROM and read-only. I even got rid of all the registry entries that referred to it, to make sure it wasn't just file-locked.
The next thing I tried was copying the Tornado Avrcp_MPplugin.dll using a different name. No problem. I called it Avrcp_MPplugin_tor.dll. I then changed the HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{7AAC2B28-5DD1-4052-81DD-E17114EE96B6}\InProcServer32 default value to the new name. Soft reset. This worked. However, again, I only have a Mogul right now, so the best I was hoping for was just not breaking my phone. I can't test to see if this makes a difference for intercepting the AVRCP commands on a Diamond/Pro where the AVRCP is funky.
Can anybody out there with a Diamond/Pro give these steps a shot? Also, this is "hacking" territory, so be sure you know what you are doing so you don't completely brick your phone.
If replacing this DLL doesn't work, there's still the bta2dp.dll and bthutil.dll which have changable registry entries.
EDIT: Don't forget to run Tor_A2DP_cert.cab since the new DLLs are signed by a different CA than the originals.
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I can confirm this doesn't work with avrcp_mplugin.dll
I downloaded the Tornado A2DP cab from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263735
I ran the cert cab and copied the renamed avrcp_mplugin.dll into my windows directory, changed the registry key, and soft-reset. No luck with pocket player. WMP still popped up. There are no other instances of that dll in the registry. I will have to try the other dlls at a later time, but it seems unlikely that the dlls that are the issue-- AVRCP works perfectly for me when I use the HTC player within TouchFlo3D.
FYI, I'm on a Sprint CDMA Diamond.
-R
sketchy9 - thanks for trying that out. My hope was that the hard-wired code was in a higher level DLL -- possibly even a semi-unrelated DLL (such as a A2DP DLL isntead of the AVRCP DLL), but it may possibly be deeper in the BT stack. From what I've read, there are at least several other people looking into the deeper BT stack, so since I have very little expertise in that area, I'll leave that to them. Meanwhile, I'm attempting to talk to somebody at HTC directly about this issue, hoping to hear from the horse's mouth exactly where the hardwired WMP code exists and if there's a way to work around it.
sketchy9 said:
I can confirm this doesn't work with avrcp_mplugin.dll
I downloaded the Tornado A2DP cab from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263735
I ran the cert cab and copied the renamed avrcp_mplugin.dll into my windows directory, changed the registry key, and soft-reset. No luck with pocket player. WMP still popped up. There are no other instances of that dll in the registry. I will have to try the other dlls at a later time, but it seems unlikely that the dlls that are the issue-- AVRCP works perfectly for me when I use the HTC player within TouchFlo3D.
FYI, I'm on a Sprint CDMA Diamond.
-R
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This is not good news. The Sprint Music player sucks. The UI is horrid and since it has control of the AVRCP it's the music player I'm forced to use as I use a stereo bluetooth headset all the time and listen to tunes much more than make phone calls. Not being able to touch the pause button on the headset and having to instead dig out the phone, unlock it, get over to a music player like Pocket Player and hit the pause button only to say "Huh? I sorry I was listening to music. What did you say?" is totally unacceptable.
Are you sure that when you copied avrcp_mplugin.dll into the Windows directory it actually replaced the file? Because I can't even copy it out much less rename it without a permissions or sharing violation. How can you overwrite it?
I believe the HTC Player is using Windows Media Components or something like that. Is there any way to disable the HTC Player (on my Sprint phone this is called Sprint Music) such that it doesn't grab hold of the AVRCP away from another media player like Pocket Player.
Oh and note I have had some times where the HTC Player does not respond to a Play/Pause through AVRCP. I don't know how it happens but the HTC Player loses control of AVRCP. Instead I fired up Pocket Player and to my delight it responded to Play/Pause through AVRCP. However, to my horrid that broke before my own ears about an hour or two later and control reverted back to Sprint Music.
Are there any HTC forums specifically about their Touch Flow 3D interface?
ratzefumm said:
I had a standard HTC Touch that mapped the BT Headset button on my sony HBH-200 to the OK Button. With Mort Player and Pocket Player i was therefore able to pause/play.
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Can you please explain how you did that in more details. How exactly did you map BT Headset button to the OK button and how do you choose which one to map (for example HBH-DS220 has stop, play and call button). I opened buttons dialog from the settings and only button I can see is button1(hold).
Pocket Player did it
At this URL you can see comments on the related topic - apparently Pocket Player has solved this issue. I'm not a fan of their player usually - a little heavy and a little slow. But in this case, I must say that they are the only ones who solved it. I tried it myself and it works.
If anybody is still watching this thread or finds it and will be interested in Pocket Player, head over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406116&page=8
thanks
thanks amidsin,
this solved my big problem.
amidsin said:
At this URL you can see comments on the related topic - apparently Pocket Player has solved this issue. I'm not a fan of their player usually - a little heavy and a little slow. But in this case, I must say that they are the only ones who solved it. I tried it myself and it works.
If anybody is still watching this thread or finds it and will be interested in Pocket Player, head over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406116&page=8
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This is a repost as requested (original thread was closed because the original author apparently left the site because he felt he was being treated unfairly)... I TAKE NO CREDIT
here is the discussion confirming that
and here
and here is the archive of the original thread
The Definitive Guide to Microsoft Voice Command (MSVC) for the Kaiser/Tilt - 2.0
*** UPDATED 9/16/2008 ***
PLEASE READ THIS FIRST POST (AND ANY REFERENCED SECTIONS) BEFORE ASKING ANY QUESTIONS!
Hello and welcome to the Definitive Guide for Microsoft Voice Command (MSVC) on the Kaiser/Tilt. I hope that this resource is effective in getting MSVC working to a satisfactory level on your device. As you go through this guide, please remember the following:
I am not a programmer or Windows Mobile engineer. I am just a tech-savvy user with an IT background. All the information I have discovered on this product was by reading what was available from all over the web and doing many tests on my own.
I am not affiliated with Microsoft in any way. I have no special insight as to why Microsoft doesn’t offer better support on this product.
I maintain this guide on my own time. Therefore I can only update it and answer questions when I have the time, which will most likely be less and less as time goes on…
THIS GUIDE IS FOR THE HTC KAISER and AT&T TILT! While it is quite possible much of the information in this guide will help you on other devices, I wrote this with the Kaiser/Tilt in mind. This is because I own a Tilt and so that is what I can perform tests on. If you own a device other than the Kaiser/Tilt then by all means read the guide and absorb its information. More likely than not if the answer isn’t in the guide I won’t be able to help with it. Look to a device specific forum for help.
How to post your issues with MSVC:
BEFORE POSTING:
READ THE ENTIRE GUIDE - There is a lot of information here and 85%+ of the time you will find what you need herein.
FOLLOW THE TROUBLESHOOTING SECTION – Make sure you read and re-read the troubleshooting section and try ALL remedies before posting.
If after the above you are still having issues with MSVC on your device, please post your information in the following format to allow myself and other members to easily assist. Please keep in mind all the above information before posting:
ROM: Version of ROM you are using (be specific!)
MSVC Version: Version of MSVC. (You can find this under Start > Settings > Voice Command)
Bluetooth: Your bluetooth headset model
Description: Provide a detailed description of what problem you are having, how to recreate it, as well as what you have attempted to do to remedy it.On to the Guide...!
Documenting Microsoft Voice Command (MSVC) functionality has proved to be a lengthy (and tricky!) proposition. There are many scattered posts out there as to how to install and configure it. I hope to bring as much information as I can to this central location. I will also offer some custom tools to overcome some of the current limitations of MSVC. For information on what MSVC is, or basic information on how to use it, please refer to the official Microsoft site for MSVC here
There are several steps to get MSVC working; generally they fall into the following categories:
Obtaining MSVC (or locating an installed copy)
Installing/Upgrading MSVC
Testing Basic MSVC functionality
Mapping a button to MSVC
Configuring the BT headset
Configuring Incoming Call Announcements
Obtaining MSVC:
Use a ROM with MSVC already installed – This is probably the best way to do it. In many cases if you have ROM with MSVC already installed you hopefully won’t need most of this guide. Official ROMS with MSVC should work out of the box. In addition, most cooks who include MSVC spend some time ensuring that it works. You may still want to refer to the guide to tweak or optimize your MSVC installation.
Purchase a copy of MSVC – If you don’t have a ROM with MSVC installed, you can purchase a copy from various online vendors. Be aware that the retail versions of MSVC currently for sale may not function fully on newer Windows Mobile devices.
Download a copy of MSVC – You can download a copy of MSVC from this guide or another location. The legality of downloading copies of MSVC has been much disputed and more information on that below.
MSVC Versions
RETAIL VERSIONS:
1.5 – There are retails version of MSVC 1.5. These are very outdated, and will not work on Windows Mobile 6.0+ devices. I will not discuss them here
1.6.4622 - Retail localized versions (available in US, UK, and French versions). Should work on WM 6.0 but WITHOUT incoming announcements.
1.6.17913 - Updated retail US version. Should work with some WM 6.0 and 6.1 builds.
EMBEDDED VERSIONS:
1.6.19209 - Embedded WM 6.0 US version, not available for retail. Should work with most WM 6.0 and 6.1 builds. RECOMMENDED FOR 6.0 devices.
1.6.19213 – Updated WM 6.1 US version. Should work with newest 6.1 builds. RECOMMENDED FOR 6.1 devices.
1.6.19214 – Latest WM 6.1 US version. Should work with newest 6.1 builds. RECOMMENDED FOR 6.1 devices.
You will note that the Microsoft has not release a retail version since 1.6.17913. Unfortunately most 6.0 and 6.1 device will not work without at least version 1.6.19209 or newer. This has left the user community in a difficult position: User’s cannot buy a working version, but the legality of obtaining an updated version has been put into question.
With the latest HTC official ROM release for the Kaiser, MSVC is included. Because of this many accept that MSVC is now in the public domain for usage, since anyone can download this ROM. In reality, you should probably be an AT&T customer or own a retail version of MSVC in order to use the newer non-retail versions.
Below are downloadable copies of non-retail MSVC versions below. These CABs were created by packaging the appropriate embedded files and registry entries from the various test and official ROMs that HTC/AT&T has released and that are available for download elsewhere on this forum.
NOTE: I have not been able to find any discernable differences between the functionality of .19209, .19213, and .19214. In fact, I continue to use .19209 because of this. This guide was written with 1.6.19209 in mind.
Download MSVC 1.6.19209
Download MSVC 1.6.19213
Download MSVC 1.6.19214
Notes on Older Versions, Methods, and Hacks
This information is provided for informational purposes only. It is not recommended that you use these older methods, but rather run one of the newer MSVC versions.
Version 1.60.4622 (Localized versions) has been tested to work but WITHOUT incoming announcements (either to phone or BT). To get incoming announcements to work you can replace the voicecmd.exe with the version from 1.6.17913 or 1.6.19209.
The file voicecommandreplacementfiles.zip that is circulating is simply a set of 4 files from version 1.6.17913. Copying these over your current installation in effect upgrades it to that version. There should be no need to apply those files if you are running 1.6.17913 or above.
The older methods of updating the audio gateway and using xcsdm's BTVoiceCommand (the 0.9f hack) do not seem to be valid for the Kaiser. Covering these methods is out of scope of this guide, but you can find more information by searching xda-developers and looking at info for other devices like the Hermes. Check out the section on MSVC here
How to Determine MSVC Version
To determine which version of MSVC is running on a device, do the following:
Go to Start > Settings > Personal Tab > Voice Command
This is the Voice Command settings applet. Open the applet to see the version number you are running.
Installing/Upgrading MSVC
Installing MSVC is as simple as running the CAB to install.
NOTE: Always install MSVC to your device's internal system memory, not to an external storage card.
In general MSVC will be installed in one of two locations:
\Windows – This is common on devices using ROMS with MSVC already built-in.
\Program Files\Voice Command – This is common on devices where MSVC has been installed separately from a .CAB file. Most retail versions will install in this method, as well as the embedded CABs offered for download from this guide. This method is preferred, as it isolates the MSVC files and allows for easier upgrading.
Once MSVC is installed, you should reboot your device and then follow the instructions above for determining MSVC version to see if it installed.
To upgrade MSVC you should first uninstall the old version and reboot before attempting to install the newer version.
Unfortunately, if you have a ROM with MSVC built-in it may impossible to upgrade. This is because ROMs with MSVC built-in have files which cannot be overwritten, as they are burned into the ROM. All of MSVC can be placed in alternate locations except for the Voice Command applet in Settings. This must always be placed in the \Windows directory. As most ROMs place their MSVC files in the \Windows directory, you can attempt to install one of the non-retail versions offered in this guide. This would mean that you would be using the old applet file, and MSVC may function improperly, or not at all. For more information, see the additional information section.
Testing Basic MSVC Functionality
The purpose of this guide is not to walk step-by-step on how to use MSVC, suffice it to say that once you have installed the application, or located your installation, you should be able to use it to a basic degree. To test basic functionality, do the following:
Locate the voicecmd.exe file. This will be in the MSVC installation directory or \Windows. Usually a shortcut is also created in the Startup folder.
Click to run the file (sometimes you may need to click it 2 or three times to initialize).
When launched, you should hear a beep and a microphone icon appear at the top of the screen.
You should now be able to speak into your phone (not BT at this point) and get MSVC to respond. You can try saying “help” and MSVC should respond with some options. You can also try “dial 555-1212” (or some other number) to make sure it begins to dial.
To my knowledge, there are no issues with getting MSVC to work through the local speakers (assuming you are using a version appropriate to your Windows Mobile version). If you can click the “voicecmd” executable in the proper directory, hear the beep, and get the microphone icon to appear then you should be able to speak to MSVC to get it to dial, etc.
Mapping a button to MSVC
We obviously don’t want to have to manually run the voicecmd.exe every time we want to issue a voice command. The easy solution is to map a button.
In most cases you only need to map a button to MVC if you want to launch if from your phone. By this I mean if you only plan on initiating MSVC via your BT headset then you do not necessarily need to do this. However, for purposes of testing, I recommend you map a button and then you can remove the mapping once your BT works.
*In some instances it appears that the Bluetooth headset device may not trigger MSVC if a button is not mapped. If you are having problems initiating MSVC from your headset, I recommend you try and map a button.
Mapping a button to MSVC is as simple as going into Start > Settings > Buttons and changing any button to launch Voice Command.
The challenge is that most peoplewant to keep their buttons how they are and instead remap the PTT button (the one on the top-left side of the phone) to launch MSVC.
If you would like to remap your PTT button to MSVC, do the following:
Download and install on your phone one of the popular registry editors (PHM RegEdit, Resco, etc…).
Goto HKLM\Software\ Microsoft\Shell\Keys
- Add a new key named "40C6"
- Add a new string value under the key called "Name" with a value of "Button 6" (or anything else you may want to call it, like “PTT”)
You can test that this is created properly by going back to Start > Settings > Buttons and you should now see the button listed. Choose to change this button to “Voice Command.”
You have now mapped the button to MSVC! There are two issues however: The first is that this won’t work until after a soft reset. The second is that a soft reset will cause the PTT service to overwrite the change you just did! Therefore, our only option is to remove the PTT service.
To remove the PTT service do the following:
Goto HKLM\Services\PTT
Delete the entire “PTT” Key. (NOTE: You may wish to backup/export this key first with your registry editor.)
Soft-reset your device. You should now be able to launch MSVC from the PTT button!
Remember, if you have another application handling your device’s buttons (like AE Button Plus), you may not need to do any of this. In addition, if you prefer to use a button other than PTT, simply map the button without the above tasks.
Configuring the BT Headset
This is probably one of the more problematic issues that people encounter. Various results have been reported with trying to get your BT headset to launch MSVC. Sometimes it does nothing, other times it redials the last number or, if you’re lucky, it will actually just work!
The key configuration point appears to be a registry key named BTAGExtModule. I believe this stands for: BlueTooth Audio Gateway Extension Module. As its name suggests it is an extension to Bluetooth which controls what application to launch and thus establish an audio gateway between your BT headset and your phone.
NOTE: In some cases this is the critical and only step you need to get MSVC working. On some devices the BTAGExtModule is set to OEMAGW.DLL. Setting it to VCBTHAG.DLL and resetting is all that is need to get MSVC working!
There are several options you can enter here and you may need to do some experimentation. The important thing is that whatever file you enter for the value of the BTAGExtModule must actually exist on your phone! Be sure to use File Explorer and browse to whatever directory you are specifying any make sure the file exits (be sure to turn on “Show All Files in Explorer options!”).
In all my tests, I am using the 1.6.19209 build of MSVC and therefore the proper gateway to use is “vcbthag.dll” (Voice Command Blue Tooth Audio Gateway). This is true of all later versions as well.
For informational purposes, here are all the audio gateways that are known to exist:
VCBTHAG.DLL – This is the audio gateway included in all of the versions of MSVC I have tested. It always appears to work in all my tests and I suggest you use this one.
OEMAGW.DLL – This is the OEM Audio Gateway. I assume it can be customized by the OEM, or rather the OEM renames whatever gateway they want to use to this filename. It may not exist on your phone, or may not do anything at all.
BTAGTEXT.DLL – This is another audio gateway. It may be generic, but I think it may have also been the default in earlier versions of MSVC. I don’t think you should ever need to use this one, but I mention it because I believe it was used in previous solutions.
To check your audio gateway:
Goto HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway
Ensure BTAGExtModule is set to “\Windows\vcbthag.dll” or “\Program Files\Voice Command\vcbthag.dll” (or another location depending on where your MSVC files are located).
SOFT RESET the phone
Wait about 60 seconds after restart to ensure all services are started
You should now be able to use your BT headset to initiate the audio gateway and initialize Voice Command.
Be sure you pair your BT headset with a “hands-free” profile!
Click your BT button and you should hear the MSVC “beep” and see the microphone icon. You should now be able to speak MSVC commands to initialize a call, etc.
TIP: You may want to walk about 10 feet away from your phone to test this. This will make sure that your voice commands are being send through your headset and aren’t just being picked up by your phone microphone. I have not seen this problem recently, although some people have claimed this issue previously.
Configuring Incoming Call Announcments
Incoming call announcements are another major hurdle with MSVC. Even on an otherwise functioning Voice Command, the incoming announcements won’t always function properly. One of three behaviors occurs:
No incoming announcements at all
Incoming announcements come only from the phone, and not from the BT headset.
Incoming announcements work properly…which is of course what we want!
I believe the issues with incoming announcements not working are due to one of two reasons:
An older version of MSVC (pre 1.6.17913) - In actuality, the file voicecmd.exe is solely responsible for incoming announcements. Whether or not they work for you is dependent on your version of that file. See the beginning of this article for information about proper MSVC versions and how to obtain them.
Incorrect MSVC settings – In some cases, MSVC simply isn’t set up properly. This is what I would like to detail here.
To ensure your MSVC is properly set up for incoming announcements, do the following:
Go to Start > Settings > Personal Tab > Voice Command
Ensure “Enabled” is checked (you probably wouldn’t have gotten this far if it wasn’t!).
Scroll down to “Phone” and make sure it is checked.
With “Phone” highlighted click “Options”
Check “Announce Incoming Calls”
Click OK to go back to the main Voice Command screen
Click “Notifications” and set your notification options.
Now place a call to your phone and you should have the incoming call announced. If the number is in your phone book it should speak the name, otherwise it will speak the phone number.
Where the announcement comes from (device speaker BT headset will depend on your Notification options.
Please read the following sections for more information on this!
Important Notes regarding Incoming Announcements
Location of incoming call announcements are a function of the “Notifications” settings in the MSVC applet. There are 3 setting in this dialog:
“Announce notifications using Bluetooth hands free only” - Use this if you want incoming announcement ONLY to come in over your BT headset and not your phone.
“Announce notifications using Bluetooth hands free if available” – Use this if you want incoming announcements to come in over both BT when BT device is available (and BT is on) or on your phone’s speakers (when not using BT).
“Announce notifications through device speaker or wired headset only.” – Use this if you want to have incoming announcements ONLY come through your speakerphone under any circumstances.
ISSUE #1:
Incoming announcements (and ring tone) don't come through BOTH the BT headset AND the speakerphone simultaneously.
The problem here lies in the fact that if you have option #1 or #2 set AND BT is on, announcements/rings will only go to your BT headset. This may be inconvenient if your headset is not in your ear. Here is a summary of what will happen when using option #1 or #2:
If MSVC is DISABLED and BT is DISABLED then an incoming call will ring normally on your phone.
If MSVC is DISABLED and BT is ENABLED then an incoming call will ring normally on the phone AND your BT headset will ring with its built-in ring tone.
If MSVC is ENABLED and BT is DISABLED then an incoming call will ring ONLY on the phone. If incoming announcements are on, these will also play only through the phone.
If MSVC is ENABLED and BT is ENABLED and INCOMING NOTIFICATIONS are ON then an incoming call will announce/ring on ONLY the BT headset. (NOTE: you will actually hear the phone’s ring tone coming through your BT headset along with the incoming notification).
If MSVC is ENABLED and BT is ENABLED and INCOMING NOTIFICATIONS are OFF then an incoming call will ring on both the phone (normal ring) and the BT headset (built-in ring). No announcements will be heard.
SOLUTIONS:
If you aren’t happy with any of the scenarios presented above by choosing notification options #1 and #2 then you have the option to use notification option #3, "Announce notifications through device speaker or wired headset only." Of course this will allow you to hear notifications over the device speaker, but not over BT.
One other option which appears to work, but is not fully tested is to set your phone to also vibrate for calls. It seems from my limited testing that the phone will vibrate even if incoming announcements are directed to the BT headset.
Again, these are not the best of all possible worlds, but there are some other options. For more information, see the next post.
ISSUE #2:
Calls from PRIVATE or UNKNOWN numbers do not seem to always (most of the time) properly announce. In fact, they will cut the ring off when using incoming announcements. As of current, I am not aware of any fix for this. This happens with incoming announcements over the phone AND the BT headset.
This issue seem to be coded into the Voice Command files themselves. When MSVC is enabled it installs some sort of proxy between the phone’s hardware to intercept incoming calls. It does this whether or not you turn on incoming announcements. This IS NOT related to the audio issues. In fact, if you put in a false value for the BTAGExtModule value then you will not be able to initiate MSVC from your BT however all the ringing issues still exist!
SOLUTIONS:
None
Additional Information Regarding MSVC
List of File and Registry Entries for Voice Command
Attached is a .ZIP with 4 files. 2 .REG files (one for 1.6.17913 and one for 1.6.19209) and 2 .CSV files (one for 1.6.17913 and one for 1.6.19209) listing files.
The information for 1.6.17913 is gathered from an official .CAB file and should be everything you would expect if you installed a retail copy of MSVC.
Since there exists no official version of 1.6.19209 I pulled the information from a recent decompiled AT&T 6.1 ROM. Since this is a built-in version of Voice Command, all files would be installed in the \Windows directory (apart from shortcuts in StartUp).
The .CAB for 1.6.19209 that I offer above is actually a conglomeration of these two. It uses all the updated 1.6.19209 files while maintaining a proper directory structure (In this case using Program Files\MS Voice Command instead of dumping everything in \Windows). It also maintains those files that were not present in the ROM's 1.6.19209 files, namely those dealing with WMP skins. I attempted to make it as close as to what an "official" version might look like from Microsoft.
Built-in versions and manual installs
MSVC, like all applications installs files and registry entries onto your device. The problem with using a Stock or Cooked ROM with MSVC pre-installed is that it may not have been installed correctly (with all the correct files or registry entries). Additionally, because pre-installed applications are often embedded in the ROM and you cannot always move or update files with working versions (because ROM files are read-only). Because of this, it may be easiest to use a ROM that doesn’t have MSVC pre-installed. However by modifying files, locations, and registry entries you may be able to get MSVC working.
Because of these limitationsit is necessary to understand a few things about how MSVC files work.
As I have already covered, MSVC files are generally installed in one of two locations:
\Windows
\Program Files\Voice Command
Generally, if you are in the built-in boat, your files will be installed in \Windows
How does MSVC know where to look for your files?
Well, the first thing to know is where and how is MSVC usually initiated:
The answer is one of three ways:
From your \Windows\StartUp folder when WM first boots
When manually launched from the shortcut or a button
When called from the BT audio gateway to receive a voice command
For #1 and #2 you will generally want to ensure that the version of MSVC being launched is the one you want. There will generally be a shortcut to your copy of MSVC (specifically the voicecmd.exe file) that launches the application in the \Windows\StartUp folder. Therefore, if you want to install a different version of this exe (and if you can’t overwrite it and need to install it to a different location) make a NEW shortcut in \Windows\StartUp to launch your new copy.
Once voicecmd.exe is launched it will want to look for the rest of its files. It knows where to look by accessing the registry at this location:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Voice Command
The two keys to pay close attention to are:
AppInstallPath and ResourcePath
The value of AppInstallPath should be the full path to the copy of voicecmd.exe that you want to use, for example:
"\Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCmd.exe"
Or
“\Windows\VoiceCmd.exe”
The value of ResourcePath should be the full path to the directory that the supporting files are stored in, for example:
“\Program Files\Voice Command”
Or
“\Windows”
Changing these two keys, along with the shortcuts should effectively allow you to bypass a built-in version of VC in lieu of file versions that you want to use. If the keys don’t exist in the root of HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Voice Command you can create them as string values.
You will also want to update your BT Audio Gateway so that the proper gateway is launched from your BT headset. Find it at the following location:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway
Set BTAGExtModule to the full path to the copy of the audio gateway dll being used, for example:
“\Windows\vcbthag.dll”
Or
“\Program Files\Voice Command\vcbthag.dll”
EXAMPLE:
If I have a built-in version of MSVC with all files in \Windows, and I wanted to update to a different build I would do the following:
Install all files into a new location, e.g. “\Program Files\NewVC”
Update AppInstallPath to “\Program Files\NewVC\VoiceCmd.exe”
Update ResourcePath to “\Program Files\NewVC”
Update BTAGExtModule to “\Program Files\NewVC\vcbthag.dll”
Delete shortcuts that point to “\Windows\VoiceCmd.exe” and create new ones that point to “\Program Files\NewVC\VoiceCmd.exe”
NOTE: The VoiceCommand_PPC.cpl file may pose an issue becuase as a control applet, it always needs to remain in the \Windows directory. If you can't overwrite this file you may still be ok since you should be able to use a copy of VoiceCommand_PPC.cpl that is different from the other file versions.
NOW AVAILABLE - Manual install for 1.6.19209 to help assist in this process. It is available here. Additional instructions enclosed.
How Incoming Announcements Work (Under the Hood)
Incoming Announcements are the function of the voicecmd.exe and the following registry key:
Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\TTSAnnounce
"Script" = "as5p"
"Category" = "VoiceCommand1"
"Sound" = "Application Data\Volatile\TTSCallerID.wav"
When a call comes in and MSVC is enabled it checks itself to see if it should be performing incoming announcements. If it is configured to play announcements it uses the above settings. The “Script” section is similar to the scripts used for normal ring profiles, it basically is telling it to play the file listed in “Sound”
The file in “Sound” is dynamically generated for each call and then played over your ringtone as your announcement.
On versions where Incoming Announcements don’t work (like UK version 1.60.4622.0) the settings are the same, but the voicecmd.exe file does not properly generate the TTSCallerID.wav and thus no announcements are made.
The Private/Unknown caller issue is also related, as voicecmd.exe doesn’t seem to properly generate the file. It actually appears to leave the .wav file open since it doesn’t know how to properly output “private” or “unknown” this locking of the file appears to be why no ringtone plays at all.
This also appears to be why occasionally you will get an announcement of the last caller's ID when you get a Private call. It hasn't properly cleared out the old TTSCallerID.wav and is replaying the last one in queue.
Troubleshooting, Tweaks, and Tips
TROUBLESHOOTING
Remember that an app alone is not responsible for how it functions. Cooked ROMs and 3rd party software can all interfere with the operation of not just another application, but the OS itself. There are quite a few fantastic cooked ROMs out there that incorporate MSVC successfully, and many other individuals are running it. Chances are it can work for you, but you may be forced to try a different ROM.
INSTALLATION/UPGRADING:
Always use a current version of MSVC
Always install to main device memory (no storage card!)
Always remove previous versions first (when possible).
Soft-reset after any install/uninstall of previous versions.
Soft-reset after making any change to files or registy
Always read and re-read this guide to ensure that your problem isn't already listed
APPLICATION HANG/NON-RESPONSIVENESS
Disable and then enable it in Start > Settings > Voice Command
BLUETOOTH:
Delete and re-pair your Bluetooth headset
Try a different bluetooth headset
Ensure it works through the device speakers (without a bluetooth headset)
Talk loudly and clearly
Use a non-A2DP BT headset (or disable A2DP)
If using a car-kit, or another BT device with voice recognition, it may be best to disable MSVC and use the car-kit's built-in voice recognition abilities.
RECOGNITION:
Ensure that you are not using a localized version (for example trying to dial UK formatted numbers with an EU version).
CONFIRMATIONS:
By default, when you say "Call contact" MSVC will speak a confirmation and wait for you to say "Yes/No" or "Correct/Incorrect." Some devices (and older versions of MSVC) will cut off before accepting the confirmation. The only solution is to upgrade and if that doesn't work, turn off confirmations. This will cause the call to initiate immediately after speaking "Call contact." The downside is that you will not have the option to cancel the call via MSVC. However, MSVC will still repeat the name/number back to you so you can cancel it via your BT headset buttons.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Please see the appropriate sections on incoming announcements and see my MSVC tools for more information.
BUTTON MAPPING:
If your button mapping stops launching MSVC, try to remap the button to another application, save the changes, then remap back to MSVC.
OTHER:
See Tweaks and Tips for more!
MORE BELOW!
TWEAKS
There aren't too many additional tweaks you can do with MSVC. If you have information on additional tweaks, please advise:
Change Speech Speed - If your friendly MSVC assistanct Michelle is talking too slow or too fast for you, you can change her speed.
Go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Speech\Voices
Change the value of "DefaultTTSRate" from between 1 (slowest) and 10 (fastest). Default if 4. I prefer 0 as it is not that slow and makes her a little clearer to understand.
Change MSVC to another voice - Can't be done! At least not any way that has been discovered. The various localized versions (US vs. UK, etc.) use different voices, but part of this configuration appears to be hard-coded into the application.
Change the sounds MSVC uses - Can't be done! The following registry keys exist dealing with sounds for MSVC:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Voice Command\Speech\Earcons]
"SRDirectedEarcon"="SRDirected.wav"
"TimeoutEarcon"="SRAsleep.wav"
"PTTEarcon"="SRAwake.wav"
If you remove or change these values the sounds go away, so they are definitely linked to these keys. But the issue is these files don't exist! So the sounds are apparently built into the program code. I have played around with changing these values to redirect to other sounds with no success.
Change Bluetooth PTT Delay - When you press the button on your BT headset to initiate MSVC two things happen: Your audio gateway opens to pass your voice to the phone AND MSVC initiates on the phone to accept your command. Some BT headsets take a while to establish their audio gateway. Because of this MSVC may open before the audio gateway is established. This can cause your voice to get cut off or decrease your recognition. To increase or decrease the delay from when you push your BT headset to when MSVC "picks up" do the following:
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Voice Command\Speech
Add/Change a DWORD value "BluetoothPTTDelay"
Add a value in milliseconds (ms) - I believe the default is about 400ms. I'm not sure how high a value it will accept, but I think it maxes out at somewhere between 2-4000 (2-4 seconds). A value of "2000" should be good if you need a longer delay. Alternatively, you can try setting this to 0 if your BT gateway establishes quickly...this may make MSVC pick up quicker.
SOFT RESET!
Change Recognizer Timeout - When the MSVC Microphone appears at the top of your screen, you have 4 seconds to start talking before it closes. If you want to increase or decrease this interval do the following:
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Voice Command\Speech
Add/Change a DWORD value "SRTimeout"
Add a value in milliseconds (ms) - The default is "4000" (4 seconds). I'm not sure how high a value it will accept, but I have tested it between 0 and 8000. 8000 is an 8 second timeout and 0 causes it to not listen to a word you say!
SOFT RESET!
Change Rejection and Ignore Threshholds - When you speak a voice command, MSVC attempts to understand what you say. It assigns your speech a confidence level based on its interpretation on a scale from 1 to 100. It compares the confidence level to the IgnoreThreshold (default 10). If the confidence level is less than the IgnoreThreshold it discards the command. This would happen if you said something that MSVC doesn't understand at all like "cook me breakfast." It would assign a very low confidence level based on it's matching techniques. It would then most likely discard this and do nothing further. If what you say is somewhat recognizable to MSVC, meaning it is above the IgnoreThreshold it will attempt to interpret it. It will compare the confidence level to the RejectionThreshold (default 36). If the confidence level is less than the RejectionThreshold, but GREATER than the IgnoreThreshold that means that it won't reject you, but it isn't 100% sure. In this case you will be asked to "Try again" or "Please Repeat." Otherwise, if your confidence level is above the RejectionThreshold that means MSVS thinks it understood you and will do its best to interpret your command to one in its set. To change the values of these thresholds to better tune MSVC to your vocal tones, you can modify the following:
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Voice Command\Speech
Change DWORD value "IgnoreThreshold" or "RejectionThreshold"
Soft-reset
Adjusting Volume of Announcements - There are two values that seem to influence the volume of announcements. They are stored within the following key:
HKCU\Control Panel\Sound Categories\Voice Command1
The values are:
AttenutationCategory
InitVol
There are apparently different default setting based on your device. In general the values are generally around 1-4 for AttenuationCategory and 1-5 for InitVol. Some research shows that setting InitVol to 40 and AttenuationCategory to 1 provide the best results. In my testing I have found the InitVol to do nothing. The AttenuationCategory definitely does something, it seems the lower the number the lower the voice. When set it to 0 the announcements were very faint. Setting it higher made them higher, although I can't say that anything over 4 or 5 got any louder.
In my findings I would say set both of these to 5 (I have read some other posts that lead me to believe setting InitVol over 5 is pointless, in addition, the posts that recommend setting it to 40 don't specify if that is decimal or hex).
Adjusting Incoming announcements while on a call - Incoming announcements will come in if they are enabled...even when you are on a call. The only time they will not is if your time is marked as "busy" in your calendar. See my MSVC tools for ways around this and other announcement issues.
TIPS
Windows Media Player Voice Commands:
Apparently MSVC doesn't properly read ID3v2 tags. If you want it to understand you properly you should use ID3v1. Find out more info here. (courtesy nonsequitir).
Problems using "Dial":
Some people have issues with the "Dial" command in MSVC. This often occurs when trying to dial numbers that are different than the standard dialing system for the country that the version of MSVC supports. The workaround for this would be to create a contact and use the "Call" command instead.
Use the nickname field to improve recognition accuracy:
From Microsoft: "You can name contacts with nicknames such as Home, Mom, or Dentist. After doing this, you can call by simply saying Call Home, etc. If you have a contact that you consistently cannot access, try adding a nick name that looks the way that you might pronounce it."
To add a nickname to a user, edit the contact. Click the arrow to the right of the contact's name to bring down an advanced dialog box that allows you to specify a nickname.
Jawbone 2 Users:
In order to initiate MSVC from this headset, you do not press the talk button. Instead you hold the Noise Assassin button for 2 seconds. (courtesy Mario23)
Additional MSVC Tools - For Incoming Announcment Issues
Microsoft Voice Command Toggle Script
This tool presents my solution to the above issues with incoming announcements coming to both the BT headset and the phone. Others, like myself would prefer MSVC to deliver incoming announcements to the BT headset AND speakerphone simultaneously. The main reason for this is that ideally, we want the announcement coming to our BT, but out BT might not always be in our ear. Therefore it would be nice to for the announcement to come to the phone as well so we don’t miss a call.
Unfortunately, this doesn’t seem possible with the current version of MSVC. But I have written a simple script to give the next best thing.
The basic idea the script uses is this:
When the BT headset is in the ear, Notification option #2 is chosen (“Announce notifications using Bluetooth hands free if available”).
When we want to remove out BT headset, the script quickly toggles to option #3 (“Announce notifications through device speaker or wired headset only.”)
This allows the BT channel to remain in its default state and simply redirects through a toggle of the notification option where you want the announcement to come out. By mapping this script to a button (like PTT) you can quickly toggle your phone when you remove or replace the headset from your ear.
The below file is a .CAB file that will install MortScript onto your phone as well as my MSVC Toggle Script. It will place the script into your Start\Programs\Tools so that you can then map it to a button of your choosing. I will also post the separate .mscr file for those that already have MortScript installed. (Warning: Installing and then removing the CAB file may also remove MortScript).
Basically MortScript is a application that allows the creation of advanced scripts to control the device and applications.
The MSVC Toggle script works in the following way:
When you initiate the MSVC Toggle either by a button or clicking, it first attempts to determine where your MSVC is installed. The application only supports MSVC installations to \Program Files\Voice Command or \Windows. You will get 3 warning buzzes and the application will quit if it is installed elsewhere. (Specifically it is looking for the location of the VoiceCommand_PPC.cpl file, which should almost always be in \Windows).
Once the application is located, the script simply toggles between notification option #2 (BT headset announcements) and #3 (speakerphone announcements).
However, changing the registry key isn’t enough as the changes aren't loaded into MSVC running memory. So, the next thing the script does is reload MSVC settings by opening and closing the MSVC applet. You will see the MSVC applet briefly flash on the screen and then close.
You will then feel a quick vibration to let you know the toggle has completed There will be a short (250ms) vibration when switching to option #2 (BT announcement) and a longer (500ms) vibration when switching to option #3 (Phone announcement).
It’s that simple!
Free/Busy Toggle Script
Another issue with incoming announcements is that they often "announce" at inopportune times, like when you are already on a call, or in a meeting. One way to prevent this is to se the notification option "only during free time". Free/Busy time is normally determined if you have an appointment in your calendar that sets your disposition to Free/Busy. So, if you have a meeting scheduled in your calendar and the time is set to "busy" you won't get announcments if this option is selected. However this is inconvinient to have to go in and create an appointment everytime you want to be marked as "busy". Luckily, I have found a location in the registry which records that information and have used it in the following tool.
FreeBusyToggle Script works like the MSVCToggle Script from above. It installs into the same \Programs\Tools folder and uses MortScript. For easy use you should map it to a key.
When you run the script it will make one short beep indicating your time is set to free, or two short beeps indicating your time has been set to busy.
So, if you are going to be taking calls or in a meeting, press to toggle till you get the two beeps and then your time is set to busy and you won't get announcments. After the meeting, press again and your time will be set back to free.
Not a perfect solution...but That's It!
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excuse me, but can we give advice/link to Bengalih's formes files???
such as if some one want to flash their rom they should use sashimi afterwards... is such discussion allowed??? and files can't be uploaded? (even to rapidshare, etc???)
sorry but this is the first time I've sen this kind of thing in forum...
yes sometimes noobs and also oldies can be annoying when come to words picking, but just to make someone like him to go is no one intention of course
so does it mean we cant post files uploaded by bengalih or????
so confused here
rajmagi said:
excuse me, but can we give advice/link to Bengalih's formes files???
such as if some one want to flash their rom they should use sashimi afterwards... is such discussion allowed??? and files can't be uploaded? (even to rapidshare, etc???)
sorry but this is the first time I've sen this kind of thing in forum...
yes sometimes noobs and also oldies can be annoying when come to words picking, but just to make someone like him to go is no one intention of course
so does it mean we cant post files uploaded by bengalih or????
so confused here
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He deleted all his stuff, but i provided a link to the snap shot that google took of it before he did so, if you would like to access it it is at the top of the page.
as for posting his stuff i think that as long as you do not claim it as your own you should be able to post it
if you have anything you would like to add i can put it in the original posts (sorry if i missed anything i was just trying to get it up)
edit: Yes discussion is allowed but he deleted most of his stuff or his forums are closed. This repost was approved by a mod(thats why i can say reposting his stuff should be fine.)
brynwall said:
Awesome thank you
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Pumpiron579 said:
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no problem
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Version 1.60.4622 (Localized versions) has been tested to work but WITHOUT incoming announcements (either to phone or BT). To get incoming announcements to work you can replace the voicecmd.exe with the version from 1.6.17913 or 1.6.19209.
The file voicecommandreplacementfiles.zip that is circulating is simply a set of 4 files from version 1.6.17913. Copying these over your current installation in effect upgrades it to that version. There should be no need to apply those files if you are running 1.6.17913 or above.
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But so, is it enough, to copy the new voicecmd.exe over them, or should we need to add the other three files from voicecommandreplacementfiles.zip as well ?
Thanks !
Hi all -- I do not know any of the specifics, and I really don't care, of exactly why bengalih left, but since this thread represents his work, I do not think it inappropriate to provide you a link where you can interact with him directly.
http://www.winmo-experts.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2
Hey,
I checked out all the settings mentioned in the first page ... but the announce voice is not working at all with receiving proceedure (sms, phone called ...etc); however VC is working normally when I give/say a command!
My MSCV v1.6.19971
My Radio version: 1.02.25.19
Any suggestions?
Read subject of email
When I was using msvoice in wm6.0 I could have msvoice anounce the name of sender and the subject of the email. I can't seem to get it to work in wm6.1 with msvoice .209.
Any thoughts?