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Tilt won't stay powered off

First off, I just want to say thanks for anyone who might be able to be of some assistance. I've tried searching google and the forums but haven't had any luck. If I've missed something, please feel free to hit me upside the head with the spoon.
I've recently been having problems with my Tilt regarding charging/battery issues. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2220715&postcount=37
Here's a quick rundown of my history...
- Can use Active Sync just fine
- When trying to charge, it says charging but won't charge
- No visible damage to the mini usb plug (at least to me)
- Had accident where the usb cable was pulled out from Tilt
Now...
I recently bought a charger that will just charge the battery separately from the phone until I can get it repaired. It's working fine so far except one issue. Whenever I try to power off the device (hold the power button till prompted to turn off), it'll power off then it'll power itself back on after 3 seconds. I did a hard reset to see if that would fix anything but it didn't. The only way to keep the phone off is to take out the battery. But once I put the battery back in, it'll power on by itself. The power button doesn't seem to be sticking or anything but I guess anything is possible. If anyone has any ideas I would appreciate it very much!!!
(I'm currently running the stock AT&T Rom without any programs installed. Also, I've never had any other Rom flashed on it.)

dieneverknowing said:
First off, I just want to say thanks for anyone who might be able to be of some assistance. I've tried searching google and the forums but haven't had any luck. If I've missed something, please feel free to hit me upside the head with the spoon.
I've recently been having problems with my Tilt regarding charging/battery issues. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2220715&postcount=37
Here's a quick rundown of my history...
- Can use Active Sync just fine
- When trying to charge, it says charging but won't charge
- No visible damage to the mini usb plug (at least to me)
- Had accident where the usb cable was pulled out from Tilt
Now...
I recently bought a charger that will just charge the battery separately from the phone until I can get it repaired. It's working fine so far except one issue. Whenever I try to power off the device (hold the power button till prompted to turn off), it'll power off then it'll power itself back on after 3 seconds. I did a hard reset to see if that would fix anything but it didn't. The only way to keep the phone off is to take out the battery. But once I put the battery back in, it'll power on by itself. The power button doesn't seem to be sticking or anything but I guess anything is possible. If anyone has any ideas I would appreciate it very much!!!
(I'm currently running the stock AT&T Rom without any programs installed. Also, I've never had any other Rom flashed on it.)
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There is an option somewhere in power settings that enables/disables the Tilt from charging when connected to a PC. This may be the cause of the first issue.
However, the fact that it won't stay powered off...I have never heard of that before it sounds like a hardware issue. If your Tilt is still covered under warranty I would get it replaced.

bengalih said:
There is an option somewhere in power settings that enables/disables the Tilt from charging when connected to a PC. This may be the cause of the first issue.
However, the fact that it won't stay powered off...I have never heard of that before it sounds like a hardware issue. If your Tilt is still covered under warranty I would get it replaced.
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Thanks for the reply! I tried adjusting that setting along with any other settings I could find regarding power but all without any luck.
I'm pretty sure it's a hardware issue as well, but I guess what I'm really wondering is if any one can make a semi-educated guess as to whether this could be involved with my mini usb plug issue or if the motherboard is just screwed
I'd love to send it in for a replacement but of course my warranty expired 5 days before the problems started

dieneverknowing said:
Thanks for the reply! I tried adjusting that setting along with any other settings I could find regarding power but all without any luck.
I'm pretty sure it's a hardware issue as well, but I guess what I'm really wondering is if any one can make a semi-educated guess as to whether this could be involved with my mini usb plug issue or if the motherboard is just screwed
I'd love to send it in for a replacement but of course my warranty expired 5 days before the problems started
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I'm not a hardware guru with HTC, although I have alot of experience troubleshooting PCs and Servers. I would say that it is unlikely that the USB port is what is causing the device to keep turning on.
In any event, are you qualified or ready to try an replace either one yourself (usb port or motherboard)?
There are 3rd party services that will fix the device...but they aren't cheap...it can cost $1-200 bucks or maybe more.
Are you running the Stock ROM/Radio/SPL? Or did you flash anything new?
You may want to revert everything back to defaults and see if the problem persists.

bengalih said:
I'm not a hardware guru with HTC, although I have alot of experience troubleshooting PCs and Servers. I would say that it is unlikely that the USB port is what is causing the device to keep turning on.
In any event, are you qualified or ready to try an replace either one yourself (usb port or motherboard)?
There are 3rd party services that will fix the device...but they aren't cheap...it can cost $1-200 bucks or maybe more.
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I'm handy with computer hardware and everything but not really with small electronics. I was willing to send it to a repair shop to have the usb plug replaced in hopes of fixing my charging problems but now I'm not sure if it'll be worth it if there's a bigger/more expensive problem.
bengalih said:
Are you running the Stock ROM/Radio/SPL? Or did you flash anything new?
You may want to revert everything back to defaults and see if the problem persists.
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I'm currently and always have been on the Stock Rom. I bought the phone as a refurb so who knows if someone here had it before me and flashed a bunch of roms . But since I've had it I've kept it running the stock AT&T rom. I also did a hard reset after I noticed the problem but it help anything.

dieneverknowing said:
I'm handy with computer hardware and everything but not really with small electronics. I was willing to send it to a repair shop to have the usb plug replaced in hopes of fixing my charging problems but now I'm not sure if it'll be worth it if there's a bigger/more expensive problem.
I'm currently and always have been on the Stock Rom. I bought the phone as a refurb so who knows if someone here had it before me and flashed a bunch of roms . But since I've had it I've kept it running the stock AT&T rom. I also did a hard reset after I noticed the problem but it help anything.
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Hmm..yeah...refurb doesn't sit well with me.
At least the problem isn't a crippling one...since you can charge it with a stand-alone charger. As far as not staying off....that's kind of annoying, but I don't generally turn my Tilt completely off. You can always just put all the power saving stuff on to cut down on battery.
So, it seems like something you may have to live with, or pay for repairs. Hopefully someone can offer a better miracle cure than those suggestions...

bengalih said:
Hmm..yeah...refurb doesn't sit well with me.
At least the problem isn't a crippling one...since you can charge it with a stand-alone charger. As far as not staying off....that's kind of annoying, but I don't generally turn my Tilt completely off. You can always just put all the power saving stuff on to cut down on battery.
So, it seems like something you may have to live with, or pay for repairs. Hopefully someone can offer a better miracle cure than those suggestions...
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I was a little weary of buying a refurb at first, but it was actually in great condition and worked just fine until when I accidentally kicked the cable out of it. But thanks for the suggestions. And you're right, it's still very usable, just a bit more of a hassle right now. Hopefully someone out there has something for me.

Exact same problem as dieneverknowing. I am going to try some new batteries and see what happens.
- When trying to charge, it says charging but does not charge
- bought a charger that will just charge the battery separately - working fine so far except one issue.
- whenever I try to power off the device (hold the power button till prompted to turn off), it'll power off then it'll power itself back on after 3 seconds. I did a hard reset to see if that would fix anything but it didn't. The only way to keep the phone off is to take out the battery. But once I put the battery back in, it'll power on by itself.

im having the same issue on my old tilt. i took it apart. and still no luck . no visible damage, gonna clean everything and put it back together.
was this problem ever solved. sorry for bumping an old thread. But this is my same issue.

Hey don't worry about bumping an old thread. I meant to do the same when I got my phone fixed.
Turns out it was the sync connector that had damage. I sent it to PPC Techs for this service and it made it like new. I never tried to take it apart, but I could only assume that at some point in time, one of the pins in the connector became separated from the motherboard.

thats what it looks like to me. i have it narrowed down to the board with the usb connector. but not sure yet. How much was that service. i would replace it my self if i can find that part at frys today.

Service was $80, and then you had to pay shipping both ways. I had looked into replacing it myself, but my small electronic skills aren't good enough for me to risk it on a pricy phone. I remember seeing the connector part somewhere online for $40 I believe, but I can't remember where though.
But PPC Techs had it repaired in less then 24 hrs after receiving it. And they did a great job. It feels more solid then when I had originally bought the phone.

[Q] Nexus One Dead

I've read similar posts without trying any answer about what happened so far and what do I have to expect.
My N1 is dead, I'm not able to turn it on neither in normal mode nor in recovery. It seems it doesn't get any power, I've tried to change the battery, using different power supply (USB cable, car dock and regular charger) without any success.
I've already contacted HTC support and I'm waiting to deliver them the phone. Warranty has expired.
Can you tell me what do you think can be happened and what do I have to expect in term of expenses?
Thanks

How did it end up that way, were you flashing something, did you drop it, water damage, etc??

Maybe power button has broke.

I'm having the same problem. My nexus one discharged its batt. wen i was on my way home.and when i plugged into charger and pressed the power, it doesn't switch on. i tried every way mentioned by other members.
had a short life huh...

try another fully charged nexus battery, if that doesn't work and your sure you did not damage it anyway it must be wear and tear of the power button/mechanism buy one of ebay for a few quid and put it in, only problem is, it might require soldering and thats a *****. lol

You can get the flex ribbon which contain the power button, no soldering required. Seen some on fleabay.

If it does not power on with the battery trick it is not the power button at fault. I can't recall exactly what the trick is because I never had to use it. It is something like pull the battery when the phone is plugged in and then put it back or something. Search the forum for how to do if. It should come up.

Dude Random21 said:
How did it end up that way, were you flashing something, did you drop it, water damage, etc??
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Simply I was using the device as navigator plugged in the car dock.
It became freezed, the only way was to remove the battery, then it restarted working only after many attempts.
The second time in the car dock as before was the last time I saw it alive...
Actually is in HTC to be rapaired... stay tuned...

athif said:
I'm having the same problem. My nexus one discharged its batt. wen i was on my way home.and when i plugged into charger and pressed the power, it doesn't switch on. i tried every way mentioned by other members.
had a short life huh...
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When you plagged into charger do you get the charging light (orange/green) ON?
Because in my case light is always OFF...

baseballfanz said:
Maybe power button has broke.
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From "touching" point of view it seemed to work good...

Finally my Nexus One is back.
HTC replaced the motherboard (I got a new IMEI code in fact).
I want to thank officially HTC because they fixed the problem even if my warranty was already expired without charging anything.
I hope this can be useful for somebody, I've heard from another italian guy the same issue for example.
Thanks to everybody who partecipated to this discussion.
Regards

Demetrio12 said:
Finally my Nexus One is back.
HTC replaced the motherboard (I got a new IMEI code in fact).
I want to thank officially HTC because they fixed the problem even if my warranty was already expired without charging anything.
I hope this can be useful for somebody, I've heard from another italian guy the same issue for example.
Thanks to everybody who partecipated to this discussion.
Regards
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Nice that you got a good result and good to hear that HTC are still providing support if it all goes tits-up!

[Q] Soft, or even hard brick? Oo

Hey guys,
just flashed purexaduio over CM10.1...worked fine so far so i went under the show and let my One do my entertainment and then...all of a sudden...music stopped. Phone powered off. Battery is full, but no LED appears when plugged in. I can try to power it on/off (down't know in which state it actually is)
adb devices - shows nothing....
does someone has an idea?

neothechosenone said:
Hey guys,
just flashed purexaduio over CM10.1...worked fine so far so i went under the show and let my One do my entertainment and then...all of a sudden...music stopped. Phone powered off. Battery is full, but no LED appears when plugged in. I can try to power it on/off (down't know in which state it actually is)
adb devices - shows nothing....
does someone has an idea?
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Hold down the power button for 30 seconds. Does it reset or the capacitive buttons flash. Try the power and the volume down for 30 seconds.
Doubt you bricked it

nullkill said:
Hold down the power button for 30 seconds. Does it reset or the capacitive buttons flash. Try the power and the volume down for 30 seconds.
Doubt you bricked it
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nope...the only thing my One does is nothing....
no charging LED, no capacitive buttons, which flashes...no vibrations....
the only thing i can face is, that my phone is quite warm, given the fact that it actually does nothing

Happened to me too, complete hardware failure. Im investigating now. Not too happy

Yeah, I'm having the same issues. No pureaudio flash, but was using CM10.1. Hoping someone finds a resolve soon!

actually i'm not at home this weekend, so i cannot try around. but it would be great if somehase has a solution until tuesday xD

neothechosenone said:
actually i'm not at home this weekend, so i cannot try around. but it would be great if somehase has a solution until tuesday xD
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So far a solution seems distant. It seems to be complete hardware failure hence the lack of charging led and capacitive button emits. I would suggest going through the process of replacement as a fix is unlikely without a jtag device.

hansmrtn said:
So far a solution seems distant. It seems to be complete hardware failure hence the lack of charging led and capacitive button emits. I would suggest going through the process of replacement as a fix is unlikely without a jtag device.
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I spoke with an HTC employee today - the power supply in the phone appears to be destroyed. This apparently comes from using third party cables, but it is covered under warranty...
This appears to be a complete hardware failure. Not software related, sadly. Really turns me off from getting another One, I may see if Telus will exchange an S4 for me instead. :/

Joakim Mogren said:
I spoke with an HTC employee today - the power supply in the phone appears to be destroyed. This apparently comes from using third party cables, but it is covered under warranty...
This appears to be a complete hardware failure. Not software related, sadly. Really turns me off from getting another One, I may see if Telus will exchange an S4 for me instead. :/
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Interesting, I only used the HTC cable....

hansmrtn said:
Interesting, I only used the HTC cable....
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Same thing happened here, in the UK on Vodafone, they are sending a replacement....

pilotedge said:
Same thing happened here, in the UK on Vodafone, they are sending a replacement....
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Do someone know where i have to send in my One in Germany?
And what i have to do etc?

well i just went to t-com store today and handed it in :/
now waiting for "repair"

[Q] can't boot

Hello xda, I just want to ask what did happen to my G1, I'm just using it ordinarily everyday but a few days ago something happen, it cannot boot but only led lights flashing, I can't even reach the recovery or bootloader, is this a hardbrick or something? I'm using a froyo rom I forgot what rom it was and I also using the right radio and SPL combo required for that but I don't know what happen, It just can't boot. Help please.

Is it just blue led? If so then yes its bricked and you need JTAG, if not you may be OK, but as to what happened that's hard to say
May be a battery issue but with LEDs flashing less likely, try to get a PC to recognize, try charging over night and testing with PC again, try booting without SD or sim, try any button combo you can

no not blue
demkantor said:
Is it just blue led? If so then yes its bricked and you need JTAG, if not you may be OK, but as to what happened that's hard to say
May be a battery issue but with LEDs flashing less likely, try to get a PC to recognize, try charging over night and testing with PC again, try booting without SD or sim, try any button combo you can
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hello demkantor, the led light wan not blue it was like a pink? or something like that, I've tried home+power button no use, camera+power button still no use, really can't boot only led flash, that's all, is there any way I could save my G1? please help, thanks

Can you get a PC to recognize it and are you able to get a new battery?

I dunno the problem
demkantor said:
Can you get a PC to recognize it and are you able to get a new battery?
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Hello again dem, since my phone can't boot, my laptop can't recognize it, and I'm confident enough to say that my bat. don't have any problem, I do have a universal charger and my battery are charging using it, one strange thing, I also have a cabled charger for my G1 which has a led light as well, I've tried charging it using that and the led light of my charger are blinking which means it is charging but the led light of my G1 was not blinking, I really don't know what happened to my G1, I hope you could give me some help, any way I tried to search for what JTAG is, but I think I can't do it since I don't have any ideas when regards to the hardware aspect of android, I'm even a noob on software aspect of adroid devices.
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I forgot to say this, sometimes another strange thing happen on my G1, whenever I try some button combo to reach either recovery or bootloader, my buttons and keyboards have lights but my screen is totally blocked out.

Sorry to say but I'm thinking your motherboard is shot. Send me a pm when you get a min. May be able to help you out

demkantor said:
Sorry to say but I'm thinking your motherboard is shot. Send me a pm when you get a min. May be able to help you out
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hello again dem, last night after I charge my phone with a cable charger, a left my G1 for a moment and when I will turn it on supposedly the lower back part of it really get so hot, I don't what happen, and what do you mean when you say
Send me a pm when you get a min.
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But thanks anyway for answering my questions. Hopefully I could recover mg G1

That really makes me think battery. Consider picking up a new one. Cheap on ebay

demkantor said:
That really makes me think battery. Consider picking up a new one. Cheap on ebay
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hi again dem, I don't think its on the battery, call me crazy or anything but still remember N70? I have one, though their battery differs in size yet their gold energy conductor or whatever they call it is just the same. Since the battery of the G1 are easily drained I need to have two battery but since I'm from Philippines I have hard time looking for battery of my G1 that's the reason why I used my N70 battery on it as a backup whenever my G1 runs out of its juice. Before I can successfully use my N70 battery ( I just place a paper or anything on its side and lower portion to make the fit right) but since the problem on my G1 occurred even my N70 battery are useless and unusable because it still don't boot. I know my problem is a weird one but I'm looking for a way to recover it without modifying or replacing its hardware. Don't have money for it. Hope you could help me with this. thanks.
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I never run any problem before using my N70 phone, its maybe because they have the same voltage which 3.7 the thing is their capacity. For you to believe me I attached here the photo of my G1

[Q] Galaxy SGH I957 wont turn on

Hi everyone, this is such a great forum. I want to thank everyone in advance. .
I recently was given a Samsung tablet sgh I957. It was not turning on. The previous owner said one day it just wouldn't charge and not even turn on with the power cable. I asked if he had dropped it or spilled water on it and he said no.
I tried pressing the power button and the volume up button. I also bought a new battery. changed it. And still no happiness. At this point I am stumped. I know the tablet is a bit on the older side. Can it be fixed I wonder and is it worth taking it in to a pro to work on it?
Also is there a solution that I have been unable to find?

lucky19x3 said:
Hi everyone, this is such a great forum. I want to thank everyone in advance. .
I recently was given a Samsung tablet sgh I957. It was not turning on. The previous owner said one day it just wouldn't charge and not even turn on with the power cable. I asked if he had dropped it or spilled water on it and he said no.
I tried pressing the power button and the volume up button. I also bought a new battery. changed it. And still no happiness. At this point I am stumped. I know the tablet is a bit on the older side. Can it be fixed I wonder and is it worth taking it in to a pro to work on it?
Also is there a solution that I have been unable to find?
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Hi,
as you have probably identify it by yourself, the problem does not come from the battery.
It could be a lot of other sources... starting from the power cable (maybe the power adapter, the cable, or the plug), then the screen (the backlight is maybe dead ?) or anything else more difficult to replace/repair (motherboard, processor...).
So first of all, you should try to charge it with another power adapter and cable, and check the cable connections on both sides (tab and cable).
[edit] or maybe it's brick, have a look at those threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1871411
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1478361
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If you decide to see a pro to repair your tab, ask him before he does any work how it will cost... because in our today's world, buying a new product could be cheaper than repairing it... unfortunately.
Hope this help !

DereckSUN said:
Hi,
as you have probably identify it by yourself, the problem does not come from the battery.
It could be a lot of other sources... starting from the power cable (maybe the power adapter, the cable, or the plug), then the screen (the backlight is maybe dead ?) or anything else more difficult to replace/repair (motherboard, processor...).
So first of all, you should try to charge it with another power adapter and cable, and check the cable connections on both sides (tab and cable).
[edit] or maybe it's brick, have a look at those threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1871411
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1478361
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If you decide to see a pro to repair your tab, ask him before he does any work how it will cost... because in our today's world, buying a new product could be cheaper than repairing it... unfortunately.
Hope this help !
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thank you