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Wizard IPL/SPL

Hi,
i am very new to all this stuff on wizard upgrading and have tried to do alot of reading....
The was something on G3 and G4 that determines the which one i have from the IPL/SPL...
MDA Vario - T-Mobile UK
IPL - 1.06
SPL - 1.06
GSM - 1.12.10
OS - 1.6.2.4
these are the details of my phone...
can someone tell me what upgrades i can use for this fone?
thank you VERY much.
Bhups

Looks like you can use basically anything. Just CID unlock using the LokiWiz or aWizard utilities on the FTP and make sure to keep your IPL/SPL somewhat near your other versions. I'd reccomend, CID unlocking and upgrading to the latest version of a "stock" ROM like the T-Mobile 2.26 here http://www.t-mobileapps.com/downloadcenter/software_detail.cfm?id=80 and then play around with other ROMs. At least then you have a backup ROM to go back to.

thanks mate... appreciate it..
just gonna try it now.

Newbie question pls help.

After spend a fews days read so manys thread. i have some question here may be you can help out the newbie here.Thanks
SIM i use now is original AT&T . The phone is unloock.
IPL 2.17
SPL 2.17
GSM 02.17.10
rom ver. 2.17.7.2 wwe
radio 02.07.10
1. What application name i need to splash the ROM?where can i down load.
2. Is my phone is G3 or G4.
3. Is the current rom now 2.26 can i use Tmobil for cingular

forme said:
After spend a fews days read so manys thread. i have some question here may be you can help out the newbie here.Thanks
SIM i use now is original AT&T . The phone is unloock.
IPL 2.17
SPL 2.17
GSM 02.17.10
rom ver. 2.17.7.2 wwe
radio 02.07.10
1. What application name i need to splash the ROM?where can i down load.
2. Is my phone is G3 or G4.
3. Is the current rom now 2.26 can i use Tmobil for cingular
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1. There are a variety of cooked ROMs throught the forum. when you are signed in to your account you will see attached files, also many of the chefs put links directly on the first page when they introduce a new ROM.
2. Your phone is G3, G4 phones have the IPL/SPL in the format of 2.xx.0001.
3. The current ROM is 2.26, the basic OS is pretty much the same between the carriers, the difference lies in the ext ROM.
This is my understanding, I'm sure I will be corrected if wrong.

IPL/SPL What does it Mean?

Okay, I admit to being mostly a newbie. I've tried doing some searches on the site for the two terms, even tried doing some 'net searches, looked in the XDA-Wiki...all to no avail.
Can someone explain what IPL and SPL mean? I, for example, have a Cingular 8125 G3 with an IPL/SPL of 2.25
I've noticed others with the same phone have an IPL/SPL of 2.26 and while I have installed 2.26 ROM images, my IPL/SPL has not changed.
Can someone explain?

I believe IPL is Initial Program Loader. Not sure about SPL (secondary program loader?). Basically these are similar to the BIOS of a PC (sort of). Gives the hardware the smarts to know what to do when its turned on.
As for your IPL/SPL not changing... First, is your phone a G3 or G4 (you have to know this or you may wind up with a brick). If you are G3, did you do a CID unlock (following the steps in the sticky by Dr. P or Faria)? Unless you CID unlock, you won't be able to do other roms.

why doesn't anyone read the wiki???

hiimcliff said:
why doesn't anyone read the wiki???
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As I mentioned in my post, I DID; however, I could not find any reference when I searched for IPL or SPL beyond mention of specific IPL or SPL numbers in connection with various ROM updates. If you would like to provide a specific link to the Wiki that defines IPL/SPL, I would be happy to apologize for my lack of search skills.
To answer the other question; yes, my phone is CID unlocked. I tried loading the WizardLove 2.26 ROM (weird Italian program screens), but that didn't update the IPL/SPL to 2.26. I've also loaded the WM6 MB ROM image and that also didn't modify the IPL/SPL to 2.26.
Right now, I'm downloading Molski's 2.26 (10.2) ROM image to see if that updates the IPL/SPL since it is apparently based on the T-Mobile Ship ROM which included an IPL/SPL update.
I'll let you know if that changes anything.

Dwimmerlaik said:
As I mentioned in my post, I DID; however, I could not find any reference when I searched for IPL or SPL beyond mention of specific IPL or SPL numbers in connection with various ROM updates. If you would like to provide a specific link to the Wiki that defines IPL/SPL, I would be happy to apologize for my lack of search skills.
To answer the other question; yes, my phone is CID unlocked. I tried loading the WizardLove 2.26 ROM (weird Italian program screens), but that didn't update the IPL/SPL to 2.26. I've also loaded the WM6 MB ROM image and that also didn't modify the IPL/SPL to 2.26.
Right now, I'm downloading Molski's 2.26 (10.2) ROM image to see if that updates the IPL/SPL since it is apparently based on the T-Mobile Ship ROM which included an IPL/SPL update.
I'll let you know if that changes anything.
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misread your post. sorry about that.
ill try to update the wiki. please post the link to the wiki.
thanks.

on second thought. it does state what it is...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FAQ
IPL: Initial program load - usually paired with Secondary Program Load (SPL), is the boot loader of your phone, much like the BIOS is the boot loader for your PC. Note: IPL/SPL are highly hardware dependent, flashing the wrong IPL/SPL is much more serious than a flashing the wrong ROM. It may be noted that, sometimes a ROM package also contains the IPL/SPL which will be flashed into your phone. Hence be extra careful what you are flashing. Note: although a ROM may also contains the IPL/SPL, `ROM` usually refers just to the OS (eg. the Windows Mobile 5, not the IPL/SPL) and the ExtRom.
SPL: Refer to `IPL`
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Weird, I did a full text search on both IPL and SPL and neither yielded the link to the FAQ that you provided. I'm not sure what Wiki software is being used, but the indexing may need to be adjusted to look w/in the wiki posts and not just at the header or description of the page.
Not that I'm a Wiki expert or anything.

Dwimmerlaik said:
Okay, I admit to being mostly a newbie. I've tried doing some searches on the site for the two terms, even tried doing some 'net searches, looked in the XDA-Wiki...all to no avail.
Can someone explain what IPL and SPL mean? I, for example, have a Cingular 8125 G3 with an IPL/SPL of 2.25
I've noticed others with the same phone have an IPL/SPL of 2.26 and while I have installed 2.26 ROM images, my IPL/SPL has not changed.
Can someone explain?
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Look in the stickies at [READ FIRST] The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards... This thread states exactly what you need to do to upgrade to the 2.26 versions of IPL and SPL

As stated above, to upgrade the IPL/SPL you must flash with a ROM that contains the IPL/SPL. Most of the cooked ROM's do not contain this so that is why your IPL/SPL was not updated.
I'd suggest flashing to the stock T-Mobile ROM that will give you a strong 2.26 IPL/SPL to work with. Then flash to the ROM of your choice.
Good luck buddy...hope this helps.

Dwimmerlaik said:
Weird, I did a full text search on both IPL and SPL and neither yielded the link to the FAQ that you provided. I'm not sure what Wiki software is being used, but the indexing may need to be adjusted to look w/in the wiki posts and not just at the header or description of the page.
Not that I'm a Wiki expert or anything.
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The forum search function has issues with searches under 4 characters. That's why you see us suggesting a google search of the site.
--M

j3d1n4s7y said:
I'd suggest flashing to the stock T-Mobile ROM that will give you a strong 2.26 IPL/SPL to work with. Then flash to the ROM of your choice.
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Yep, that's exactly what I did. It took me a bit to find the T-Mo 2.26 ROM, but the stickied thread mentioned had a nice link that worked, so I downloaded and used that.
So, upgrade successful. I'm now running IPL/SPL 2.26 with the WM6 MBE ROM image, and the 2.61 Radio ROM and so far, all is good.
Thanks for all the help.

Some help please

I am pulling my hair out here...
I have an 8125, with the following
Sim Carrier and Rom = T-Mobile
IPL/SPL=3.08
GSM=01.12.10
OS=1.5.4.2
Rom Version=1.5.4.2 WWE
Radio Version 01.12.10
I followed the two main tutorials on how to SIM and CID unlock, got both my IPL and SPL to match, flashed in the TMo Rom and thought all was good.
Now I was poking around and see that it is not a 2.26 rom that is on there but it is a 1.5.4.2. So what do I do, I go to
http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
to get the Mobile MDA Software Version (2.26.10.2)
and when I run the file that gets downloaded, it gives me a
ERROR [296] : UPGRADE ONLY
Now, does it see that the phone is infact not an MDA and is a 8125 and does not like it?
So now from this point, (I have done my research and forum search, and RTFM many times so pleae dont blast me) what do I need to do to get the updated 2.26 rom, and eventually get up to the WM6.
I appreciate all the help, as I am seriously ready to have phone meet wall.

177media said:
I am pulling my hair out here...
I have an 8125, with the following
Sim Carrier and Rom = T-Mobile
IPL/SPL=3.08
GSM=01.12.10
OS=1.5.4.2
Rom Version=1.5.4.2 WWE
Radio Version 01.12.10
I followed the two main tutorials on how to SIM and CID unlock, got both my IPL and SPL to match, flashed in the TMo Rom and thought all was good.
Now I was poking around and see that it is not a 2.26 rom that is on there but it is a 1.5.4.2. So what do I do, I go to
http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
to get the Mobile MDA Software Version (2.26.10.2)
and when I run the file that gets downloaded, it gives me a
ERROR [296] : UPGRADE ONLY
Now, does it see that the phone is infact not an MDA and is a 8125 and does not like it?
So now from this point, (I have done my research and forum search, and RTFM many times so pleae dont blast me) what do I need to do to get the updated 2.26 rom, and eventually get up to the WM6.
I appreciate all the help, as I am seriously ready to have phone meet wall.
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You have already flashed newer bootloaders that 2.26. You have 3.08. Why do you need to go back to 2.26? IF you are CID unlocked (did you take your bootloaders down to 1.xx then run lokiwiz, and then bring them up to 3.08?) you should be able to flash your WM6 rom now. Have you tried?

Zzan said:
You have already flashed newer bootloaders that 2.26. You have 3.08. Why do you need to go back to 2.26? IF you are CID unlocked (did you take your bootloaders down to 1.xx then run lokiwiz, and then bring them up to 3.08?) you should be able to flash your WM6 rom now. Have you tried?
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I think he upgraded the IPL/SPL alone from button's 1.01 and now can't flash any ROM since 3.08 can't handle 1.5 OS.
My advise is to flash IPL/SPL 1.01 and from there flash a 2.26 but... there are a lot of people mentioning IPL 3.08 and SPL 1.xx meaning that IPL won't allow to downgrade. I think it's up to him...

my understanding is that you shouldn't be going to an ipl/spl of 3.xx unless you are flashing from an ipl/spl of 2.xx. (based on thread information from old roms of molski and faria, last days of wm5 roms).
if possible, you should try to reflash back to 1.05 (i think they were customized so you shouldn't have problems).
official t-mobile roms won't let you downgrade to my understanding...at least not from one official t-mobile to another official (3.08 --> 2.26 or 2.26 -->1.80).
so...retry to flash buttons 1.05, then move up to 2.26...and then if you really want to flash again to 3.08.

That is exactly what I figured out last night.
When I RTFM where it says EDIT STEP 17: Flash to 3.08 .......
I took that as a instad of thinking that it contained the 2.16 rom as well as the IPL/SPL upgrades.
So I went through reflashed both back down to buttons 1.05 and then reflashed back up to 2.26 and then to WM6, everything is dandy and it is all becuase of the wonderful people here. I can not say it enough. This place is the greatest! And thank you all yet again.

I'm glad you managed to save your phone. Not many these days by counting the number of "Help" threads
Can i ask you to please give something back to the forum? please check my signature and visit the "Data crashes" solution thread. Tx

Definitly will.

HELP.....HTC wiza200 -G3 OR G4-.....PLEASE

help........Please
I have T-Mobile HTC wiza200
IPL 1.08
SPL 2.26
is G3 OR G4
and thank you

Seems to be a G3 that wasn't correctly updated, since the IPL and SPL don't match.

n2rjt said:
Seems to be a G3 that wasn't correctly updated, since the IPL and SPL don't match.
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Thank you
where can I find explanation of the update

Sorry I got your personal message but didn't recognize you. Later I remembered that it was this thread. Look at this thread for a tutorial on how to upgrade. I believe that you have a G3, but the IPL and SPL versions do not match. When you finish the tutorial, both IPL and SPL should be 3.08 (or 3.09, but mine is 3.08).
Good luck. If you have any other questions, please ask.
For ROMs, search the 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development forum. My favorites are in my signature.

I have read The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards
but the link for (T-Mobile 2.26 rom)is dead ...where can I download it??
i have download another rom but the version is T-Mobile 2.6 and not
T-Mobile 2.26
can i use it without problems??
thank you for your help and your patience

You can still download the official T-Mobile ROMs from their website, as long as you are a current T-Mobile customer, or at least know a telephone number of a current T-Mobile customer.
Currently, the link is:
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm23294.xml?&A2L.SERVICE=UpdateSoftware
And the filename is:
MDA_software_update_226102_22610105_022511.exe

I found the download link here
(T-Mobile 2.26 rom)
rapidshare.com/files/37669086
/MDA_software_update_226102_22610105_022511.exe
I will try to update my device
Thank you