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Overclocking the Diamond

The way overclocking my original Touch helped with the lags due to the TouchFlo cube got me thinking: is it possible to overclock the Diamond beyond 528MHz? I heard before that Qualcomm processors were un-overclockable? Is this still valid? If not, how can I overclock my Diamond and what are the risks?

Blimey, how much hotter do we want the Diamond to get!
Methinks the battery isn't really up to it either...

It is hot but we need to acknowledge that it does lag sometimes.
A better battery is coming out in the near future (1350mAh) so I'm guessing we should consider overclocking.

I think the Processor is plenty fast enough . Its the operating system and a plugin that is causing the lag .
If you run the device without the 3d pluggin its very quick. Its just that the operating system is enhanced to the hardware but the pluggin is not as intergrated so will never run as fast

Count me in on anything that has the word:
Overclocking Like my insanely smoothly running Overclocked Vista Ultimate Machine!

wardy said:
I think the Processor is plenty fast enough . Its the operating system and a plugin that is causing the lag .
If you run the device without the 3d pluggin its very quick. Its just that the operating system is enhanced to the hardware but the pluggin is not as intergrated so will never run as fast
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I understand that if WM 6.1 runs smoothly on a 201MHz TI-OMAP processor, it will fly on a 528MHz processor. The point is to get TouchFlo3D to integrate that greatly with the remainder of the OS since it is the most appealing feature of the device. I think that upping the processor to say 650MHz would largely facilitate this.

no no no boys I think that more usefull will be underclock processor for better battery life when you didnt need so much performance...automated state will be the BEST!!! so try to think in this direction...

kultus said:
no no no boys I think that more usefull will be underclock processor for better battery life when you didnt need so much performance...automated state will be the BEST!!! so try to think in this direction...
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I'm waiting for this option as well

is it ppossible to oc the touch diamond? and what program do i need?
i would really like to oc it!!

Bunch of fools :/ Overclocking a phone that already has overheating issues AND battery life issues.

Am I correct in thinking that there are other devices with the same processor running at 400mhz, if so the speed must be scalable? I agree that the diamond is quick already but if the speed was scalable like battery status with the TI omap I had in my old Artemis, then the battery should last longer since usually it would be running underclocked.

i will buy external bat. is there any program for oc touch diamond

kultus said:
no no no boys I think that more usefull will be underclock processor for better battery life when you didnt need so much performance...automated state will be the BEST!!! so try to think in this direction...
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Valid point. I guess the software that will overclock the Diamond will also allow underclocking so the goal is the same.
ljames28 said:
Bunch of fools :/ Overclocking a phone that already has overheating issues AND battery life issues.
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An extended battery is on the way and I haven't encountered any overheating issues yet. You better check your facts before calling everyone fools.
Apparently there isn't any such software available given that nobody has made suggestions concerning the availabilty of such software yet.

http://www.batteryupgrade.se/produc...9&PHP5SESSID=fe2844f3866fcfcdecb1881ab80afa2d
1800 mAh battery

so no software for now?
do you think it will be avilable one day?

I hope so but I think the problem is that most Qualcomm processors have fast enough clocks so the incentive for developers to look into the problem isn't that great.
Actually, how much resources are required to develop such an application? We could start raising funds to that end.
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http://www.batteryupgrade.se/produc...9&PHP5SESSID=fe2844f3866fcfcdecb1881ab80afa2d
1800 mAh battery
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Yeah. I know about this one but I also heard that GPS doesn't work well when it's on.

mennotheman said:
http://www.batteryupgrade.se/produc...9&PHP5SESSID=fe2844f3866fcfcdecb1881ab80afa2d
1800 mAh battery
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are you joking I bought Diamond because of dims and weight...If I ll want thick basta*d I ll buy HTC touch Pro muhehe or better stay with my Kaiser

Double post

I could have sworn that the processor in the diamond is UNDERCLOCKED as standard, and does not even run at 528Mhz..
If true, probably a decision to conserve battery since 900mAH is bugger all.
Also, again if this is true, you could probably assume it could at least be clocked to 528Mhz which would speed it up, at least make a difference from what were all used to.
Even with TouchFLO3D disabled, I find the Diamond to be not as responsive as other (much older) WinMo devices, this just does not seem to make any sense. An underclocked CPU would explain a lot of things, IMO.
The question is, how can we find out the truth?

with some software like cpu-z for pc.
are there programs for oc other htc products?

Processor speed 528 or 400?

Hi all,
I notice that all the marketing data and spec sheets say the X1 has a 528MHz processor, but some people are saying it has a 400MHz. Does anyone here know what speed their device is actually running at?
-Oobly

well, 528mhz is correct.
the plugin homescreen++ showes 400mhz, but i think that this information in wrong.

The phone has a 528mhz processor, but it only runs at 400mhz - meaning that it does not run at full speed unless you tweak the settings.

Okay, so how do you tweak the settings? Does neuClockControl work to set it to 528MHz?
A processor specified to work at 528MHz running at 400MHz is still just a 400MHz processor if there is no way to make it run at 528. If this is the case then we have been royally screwed by SE/HTC.
I would like to be able to push it to 528MHz for gaming, etc (I don't mind the extra power usage if it means better performance), and change it back to 400 manually again for normal use (so it uses less battery power).
-Oobly

Oobly said:
Okay, so how do you tweak the settings? Does neuClockControl work to set it to 528MHz?
-Oobly
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yep i use Nuecpl-ClockSpeed and the cpu work at max speed without problems....

PredatorX11 said:
yep i use Nuecpl-ClockSpeed and the cpu work at max speed without problems....
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Cool! So does it actually show 528MHz and can you see a difference in performance?

I'm pretty sure it runs on 528mhz, not at 400. It is not slower than touch pro/hd expect graphical apps, where the video drivers count. Plus I saw the clock rate on some WinMo software as 528.something mhz, or was it 529mhz. Can't remember the software, but I couldn't care less if some old software with old DB misjudges the 7200A with 7200 processor and says that the cpu runs at 400mhz sharp. That's not reliable at all. Plus it's almost imposible to keep the cpu at 400.00mhz, just like 528.00mhz, it's usually a little bit more or less. So if it is a real measurement, you would probably see something like 401.25 or 528.84 or something Mhz. Have you done some benchmarks on SKTools for example. The cpu is somethimes on par with Samsung Omnia, which should be a Marvell PXA312 624 MHz processor. A 400mhz cpu just can not do that, even though mhz to mhz is not a proper way to compare CPU speed.
Here's a little info on what I mean: SKTools shows that the cpu speed is 400 000 000 hz, which is obviously not the real value but something predefined. Also the Integer Test on SkTools gave a value of 329.8084 units, which is on par with Touch Pro/HD and much faster than Omnia 1 with value of 253.10 on this test. The floating point is 7.552 MWIPS, again on par with the other 528mhz devices, and here it is slower than the top in list 8.63 MWIPS Omnia 624Mhz. The conclusion should be clear - either all devices are underclocked (together with X1) or X1 is running on 528Mhz cpu.

installed the software and started it up, it says my cpu is at 528mhz. where are people getting the 400mhz from?
Official R3 uk rom

TCPMP sometimes shows me 530Mhz XD

Ganondolf said:
installed the software and started it up, it says my cpu is at 528mhz. where are people getting the 400mhz from?
Official R3 uk rom
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4264970&postcount=3
And a few other places. Could just be reported incorrectly to some software, especially when they display exactly 400MHz. On the other hand it could be that CorePlayer or the OS somehow ups the speed to 528 when it is needed. I have heard reports of devices running faster when leaving a video open in the background. Maybe there is already some dynamic clock adjustment going on even without using neuDynamicClock?

this is what i think. the x1 is running at 538mhz but sometimes (with some app/ tasks) its been told to stay at 400mhz for some reason unknown to us (maybe to save battery or so it does not overheat).
if u look at the iphone we know for a fact that it was underclocked but the x1 nowhere has it even been said that its been underclocked apart from a few people on this forum, and i reckon that the app / software is not giving a proper / accurate reading or the app been told to run at 400mhz and people have just assumed that the cpu is underclocked. as i said this software is saying its running a 528mhz, which is the official spec for the cpu, so i cant see how people have handsets that are underclocked.

Oobly said:
Cool! So does it actually show 528MHz and can you see a difference in performance?
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sorry no, i have not tested the x1 at default speed.
but with this software you can change the speed from same state... and a little or medium improvement is possible.
i use the 528 mhz and level 0 for the voltage. to put the chipset to 528 mhz at 1.1 volt instead of 1.325 volt
and in stand-by i put the chipset at 122 mhz and 1.1 volt

Ganondolf said:
this is what i think. the x1 is running at 538mhz but sometimes (with some app/ tasks) its been told to stay at 400mhz for some reason unknown to us (maybe to save battery or so it does not overheat).
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I agree with that. Even the modern CPUs run at lower speeds if not utilized enough, not to mention that this should be a must for the handheld/pocket devices.

funny thing is, that I've installed nue dynamic clock and without changing anything in the past it shows that my device clock is running 528 mhz @ 1.1V. it is all soo damn confusing...

bronx said:
funny thing is, that I've installed nue dynamic clock and without changing anything in the past it shows that my device clock is running 528 mhz @ 1.1V. it is all soo damn confusing...
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I did this as well, with nue dynamic clock showing 528mHz.
Homescreen++ still shows 400 mHz though. Only thing I can think is that Homescreen++ looks up the processor and mistakes it with a predecessor.
In other news, xperia is darn side quicker than my Kaiser, with a much more beautiful screen bonus, but maybe the speed is related to that 'drivers' story

Anyone know what registry settings Nue alters?
I want to try to overclock.

ring-bearer said:
Anyone know what registry settings Nue alters?
I want to try to overclock.
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You cannot do that.

Calvin H said:
I did this as well, with nue dynamic clock showing 528mHz.
Homescreen++ still shows 400 mHz though. Only thing I can think is that Homescreen++ looks up the processor and mistakes it with a predecessor.
In other news, xperia is darn side quicker than my Kaiser, with a much more beautiful screen bonus, but maybe the speed is related to that 'drivers' story
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hey! I was a kaiser user as well and x1 is much faster indeed. what more, You musn't forget that it's resolution is more than four times higher.

orelsi said:
You cannot do that.
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I actually did overclock my fuze, to 628MHz. There is a program in the raphael section; performance something something...
I tried it right before i received my x1, and i didn't notice any improvements or problems.
I belive the same app should work for the x1, since it has same chip.

Stalix said:
I actually did overclock my fuze, to 628MHz. There is a program in the raphael section; performance something something...
I tried it right before i received my x1, and i didn't notice any improvements or problems.
I belive the same app should work for the x1, since it has same chip.
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I'd be all over that. I searched the forum but came up empty. If you happen to remember the name, let me know. I'll run a bunch of benchmarks and post them here.

overvolting htc diamond

Hi all,
I would like to know if overvolting of msm 7201A is possible on htc diamond. I have overclocked this cpu at 710Mhz with wimospeed. At 729Mhz the device become unstable. So i would try to overvolt thi cpu to obtain better performance. In this way i don't need to buy a new device, because at default settings the htc diamond is very slow, in my opinion.
Thanks.

nobody answer?

SMB Reply
marioland2 said:
nobody answer?
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Give 'em some time. I've been waiting for an answer for my question for a couple months now, .
In all seriousness though, I really don't have an answer for you. I can share my experiences with it though - I used to have an app baked into my ROMs that claimed to be able to overvolt a little bit, but it was all just a hoax. The app didn't actually do anything though, so I'm thinking "no".
Give it time though.
Good luck.
- 2 Bunny

Oh sorry. Ok i'll wait for an answer.

u want water cooling too?

LOL, it's not necessary, default heatstink is enough.

marioland2 said:
Hi all,
I would like to know if overvolting of msm 7201A is possible on htc diamond. I have overclocked this cpu at 710Mhz with wimospeed. At 729Mhz the device become unstable. So i would try to overvolt thi cpu to obtain better performance. In this way i don't need to buy a new device, because at default settings the htc diamond is very slow, in my opinion.
Thanks.
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Could be useful overclock RAM.... An HTC HD Mini has only 600 Mhz CPU and go faster and faster then Diamond...

irc24 said:
Could be useful overclock RAM.... An HTC HD Mini has only 600 Mhz CPU and go faster and faster then Diamond...
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you're right; i tried to set cpu speed at 400Mhz and the system reactivity was the same. Could be useful also increase bus speed. If this overclock is possible i can buy a 1350mah battery so i don't need a new smartphone lol.

[Q] Overclocking cpu

Hello people
Is it possible to overclock my laptop's CPU?

alex ainsley said:
Hello people
Is it possible to overclock my laptop's CPU?
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Way wrong place to ask this. I think.
But yes, depending on brand, etc.

ok sorry where should i ask that ^^ question

Try the off topic forum.
Sent from my Incredible with the XDA Premium App.

Depends what motherbaord and CPU you have

You can OC a laptop, but the thermal cooling won't work well. It's best NOT to do it.

well I've got due core Pentiums, but tell me this... if it's possible to overclock my pc just with some coding, like when your rooting a android phone ?

alex ainsley said:
well I've got due core Pentiums, but tell me this... if it's possible to overclock my pc just with some coding, like when your rooting a android phone ?
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Yes, you probably can... doesn't mean you should do it. Did I mention it'll kill your CPU faster than you can say gigahertz?
Just google around for the exact model of your CPU and overclocking.
But you shouldn't though.

Ok I don't want to kill my pc so I wont to it.
But if there's a safe way of doing it like doing it with android phones then let me know.

Even what we do with the Androids aren't good. The underclock is there to reduce battery consumption.

Overclocking your processor should be done with extreme caution. The excess heat caused can be fatal to the core and anything around it. The best cooling method is always liquid nitrogen.

real men overclock to the max .
that said , oc is done in the bios 90% of the time and 95% of the lappys wont even have an oc option in the bios

PartTimeLegend said:
Overclocking your processor should be done with extreme caution. The excess heat caused can be fatal to the core and anything around it. The best cooling method is always liquid nitrogen.
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Right... keep the liquid nitro on your laptop...
Snet from me HTC Dserie using lé XDA app. Excuse typoz.

souljaboy said:
real men overclock to the max .
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So I should have my phone running at 2Ghz all the time

MacaronyMax said:
So I should have my phone running at 2Ghz all the time
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well i know i have mine screen on at 1.54g(max) ... but 2ghz .. impressive

souljaboy said:
well i know i have mine screen on at 1.54g(max) ... but 2ghz .. impressive
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Haha Thanks

I do not see the purpose of overclocking. The phone works fast enough. But if it gets you excited...
SGS

just use setFSB:
http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/

It is possible to overclock any CPU
But the problem with laptop is that usually they run very hot with the stock clock settings,
as soon as you overclock it makes the CPU run faster but Hotter as well and you run the risk of causing permanent damage to your laptop, Best not to do it,
Plus it will greatly reduce battery life

Unscrew the bottom of your laptop, scrap the stock heatsink for a corsair watercooler kit, up the FSB bus until the RAM melts....
...profit!

[HOW TO?] Topaz GPU Overclock

Hey guys, have you ever heard that you can Overclock your GPU??
Some user got it done on Kaiser and scored 36.5 FPS on NeoCore!! Isn't it great??! Our devices are rather stronger that Kaiser... To do this, you have to add this line at your startup.txt:
clock_7x00.grp=0ax99
But that it doesn't seem to work... Because we need a kernel that let us to do this... Also, someone said it's not .grp and it's .gpu!
I'm really confused with that. So, let me know your experiences and let's discuss about this... Just imagine that you can play a lot of 3D apps much faster than you do right now... With a NAND build, we can hopefully get a functional Android on Topaz (Comparable to LEO)
Link to Kaiser GPU OC thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697673

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3695304&postcount=2 -> Overclocking

reibe said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3695304&postcount=2 -> Overclocking
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That's related to overclocking the CPU... I'm talking about GPU (Graphic Processing Unit) which is different.

Black.Heart said:
Hey guys, have you ever heard that you can Overclock your GPU??
Some user got it done on Kaiser and scored 36.5 FPS on NeoCore!! Isn't it great??! Our devices are rather stronger that Kaiser... To do this, you have to add this line at your startup.txt:
clock_7x00.grp=0ax99
Link to Kaiser GPU OC thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697673
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No so good, these results only because these devices have QVGA screens.
I seen even 37.9fps on my Polaris w/o GPU overclocks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6807328&postcount=67
For our devices better way is decrease resolution like 240x400.