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M700 HTC 3600 overclocking

Is it possible to download software to overclock the m700 like you can on other HTC devices

hi,
if you search along this forum you will find the anwser.
try to search "XCPUScalar"
i've got mine fully working at 500Mhz.

XCPUScalar is for intel PXA CPUs, trinity uses samsung cpu and XCPUscalar does nothing to it. Your 500MHz it's just a placebo effect.

placebo effect....
vimafeje said:
hi,
if you search along this forum you will find the anwser.
try to search "XCPUScalar"
i've got mine fully working at 500Mhz.
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Hi,
xcpuscalar has no effect on the samsung processor of the trinity, if you make a search about, you'll find many info...
afaik the only software that works with samsung is pocket hack master but is not stable and often crash
bye
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Hi,
afaik the only software that works with samsung is pocket hack master but is not stable and often crash
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Just have to be reasonable, think 500mhz is a little bit too much...

And I wouldn't wanna kill batterylife for those few extra megahertz's...

Just a question, I know that for a desktop some extra mHz can mean alot, but what would the benefit be for a PPC?

Moaske said:
And I wouldn't wanna kill batterylife for those few extra megahertz's...
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Right, but if you underclock you buddy ( i.e. 251 mhz ) you can *increase* battery life ;-)
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So nobody wants to help us over and underclocking our devices?!

"Just a question, I know that for a desktop some extra mHz can mean alot, but what would the benefit be for a PPC?"
without having all the numbers then i doubt it will mean that much as interfaces for different types of memory and interfaces would likely become bottleneck fast

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pocket hack master but is not stable and often crash
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I don't even think pocket hack master really does the overclocking on the samsung cpu. Last time I check, there's no official support for that cpu.
Nevertheless, I tried it - and tested it with benchmarking softwares - and it seems that it may even degrade performance!
Then I uninstalled it right away!

Kaser overclock

Which software to use?

In my humble opinion: None......for the Qualcomm there is no software availalble to overclock it....but in time it will come...

try this out guys. application specific.

All this seems to be doing is to change the priority of the threads running certain applications. It does not overclock the CPU like OMAP did.

anyway does this work?
or its like the sktools optimization?

Any progress out there on a safe program to overclock a Kaiser? WM6 is definitely faster than WM5, but alot slower than my old Palm OS Treos.
thanks,
d

I'm also waiting for a piece of software that will allow me to overclock my Kaiser, but still there is no progress at all. As they say - patience is gods' virtue (-:

has anyone tried htc performance?
I believe I read helmi had a hand in creating it???I know this has been used on a few different devices and is very low on batti draw but no one quite knows how it works.Really makes a difference on my device but Im not sure if it would be safe to use or even work with the proccessor on the kaiser.

With the battery life as borderline as it is with the Tilt/Kaiser, I'd shy away from overclocking. You'll get lightening fast speed for the 5 minutes of battery life

ya but...
ya but... with the video drivers we're missing and an overclocker the phone would be lightning quick.Also I was reading that the reality is with the right programmers the next gen phones kaiser , dream and a few others a playstation 2 emulator on the ppc would be possible. imagine being on a plane cut off 3g and phone functions and play ps2 games on your phone. plus with extended and/or extra batteries that are now becoming available...

I do not see the logic. The Kaiser is so fast and has so much memory, why would you risk bricking or prematurely damaging your phone? Just my opinion

punkhawaiian said:
I do not see the logic. The Kaiser is so fast and has so much memory, why would you risk bricking or prematurely damaging your phone? Just my opinion
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Glad to learn that my Kaiser is so fast ! I guess you don't use games or heavy graphical applications, because then you would see that the Kaiser is not faster than an HTC Prophet wich is overclocked at only 240 Mhz ! (380 Mhz for the Kaiser...). Also if you want to play VGA videos, the speed is not good enough (wich it should be if you look at the Qualcomm processors capabilities, but as everyone know here, HTC did'nt make the drivers for that).
I am very disapointed by the fact the Kaiser is not a VGA device, but even more disapointed when you see that it is not even faster than a VGA device !!! So at this low speed, where is the interest of having a QVGA screen compared to VGA ?
Definitly, an overclocker tool may help me to consider keeping my Kaiser (even if I think that at this device price, it's a shame to be obliged to overclock it to have a decent speed ...).

The prophet is slower in my opinion, I don't own a Kaiser, but whenever i use it everything happens faster than on my overclocked WM6 Prophet (overclocked to 286MHz normally).

How does the speed compare to the TyTN, mine should be here on Wednesday... I can't wait!

someone found a tool that really works ?

WOW! and I thought we had enough problem threads on here with overheat and battery deaths!
Look out for many more!!

I upgraded to kaiser from a Tmob Wing, for that I played with an overclocker called Fl0wt. Which did seem to work BUT the battery becames a flamethrower of heat and the battery life was sucked away in no time. this wasnt a big clock speed step either. The parts just arnt suited for the additional heat it seems. plus it felt dangerously hot...like "hit the dirt its going to blow" hot. not worth the risk in my oppinion...but hey thats just me

Can you post a link to "Fl0wt" ive searched far and wide and found nothing. Please post a link.
Cheers !

dizzy33 said:
Glad to learn that my Kaiser is so fast ! I guess you don't use games or heavy graphical applications, because then you would see that the Kaiser is not faster than an HTC Prophet wich is overclocked at only 240 Mhz ! (380 Mhz for the Kaiser...). Also if you want to play VGA videos, the speed is not good enough (wich it should be if you look at the Qualcomm processors capabilities, but as everyone know here, HTC did'nt make the drivers for that).
I am very disapointed by the fact the Kaiser is not a VGA device, but even more disapointed when you see that it is not even faster than a VGA device !!! So at this low speed, where is the interest of having a QVGA screen compared to VGA ?
Definitly, an overclocker tool may help me to consider keeping my Kaiser (even if I think that at this device price, it's a shame to be obliged to overclock it to have a decent speed ...).
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I beg to differ.
I play LOTS n LOTS of games on my TyTN II AND I watch full feature movies and I use Outlook AND I use GPS AND I use internet (Netfront v3.5) and I have yet to find a speed problem as mentioned in this here cheese and whine forum.
Some of the games I have on my TyTN II are:
Cybersaurus
Warfare Inc
Machines at War
Bejeweled 2
Zuma
Ackys XP Breakout
Shattered Worlds
Call of Duty 2
Darxide EMP
gfDoom
Fast Future Race
G-Prime Extreme
Interstellar Flames
Skyforce Reloaded
Quake & Quake 2
Sinbad Return of the Legends
Flux Challenge
Is this a good enough sample for you?
THE KAISER NEVER CLAIMED TO BE A VGA DEVICE. IT IS STRICTLY QVGA....NOW GET OVER IT!!!
I am starting to believe that AT&T roms are fraught with problems.
I don't have that problem here in SA.
My TyTN 2 is MUCH faster than my iMate KJam....MUCH MUCH FASTER!!!
So I don't know what you are referring to.

MACkjam said:
I beg to differ.
I play LOTS n LOTS of games on my TyTN II AND I watch full feature movies and I use Outlook AND I use GPS AND I use internet (Netfront v3.5) and I have yet to find a speed problem as mentioned in this here cheese and whine forum.
Some of the games I have on my TyTN II are:
Call of Duty 2
Is this a good enough sample for you?
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I have Call of Duty 2 too, and it's really slow on the Kaiser compared to other devices. You should see how it runs on other PPC's...
MACkjam said:
I am starting to believe that AT&T roms are fraught with problems.
I don't have that problem here in SA.
My TyTN 2 is MUCH faster than my iMate KJam....MUCH MUCH FASTER!!!
So I don't know what you are referring to.
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I have an T-mobile Kaiser and it's definitely not much faster than a Magician. The difference is really, really small.
And we're referring to the fact that there are no drivers for the ATI Imageon hardware. Thanks to this, everything needs to be rendered by the CPU.

Overclocking the Diamond to 700mhz

just wondering if its possible?
528mhz stock..i know we dont really need the speed
but it would be nice to have the option

juz a friendly warning bro,overclocking is very dangerous.

very very risky on phones, i wouldn't recommend it at all!

also overclocking the cpu will likely just
help a tiny bit because of the other bottlenecks
in the system like ram and flash and io speeds
and overclocking will result in a flat batt pretty fast
suspect most speed inc people feel is purely placebo effect

I've overclockt my artemis and is a lot faster. I've used batterystatus. But i dont know if you can use this programme on a diamond.
Who will test it?

At the moment there exists no program to overclock the diamond.
So this discussion is useless.
TDO

There is a program though.
I don't know how efficient it is, because i'm not interested myself, since the Diamond already has an over-heating problem, I don't think it's wise to overclock it.
The program is called 'performance' and it is designed for Qualcom CPU, like the one Diamond is using.
Give it a try.
(I'm afraid there is only one frecuency avalaible, 660 mhz if i recall right, so, under 700)

The last discussion about "performance" has concluded with the conclusion that it's a fraud, or doesn't do anything at best.
about OC in general, I'm OC'ing everything I own that can be OC'ed. The performance differences are huge, and 99.99% of the time completely safe if you know what you're doing. KJAM OC'ed to 260mhz is one of the fastest devices out there, faster than TYTN, Kaiser or Diamond. The Athena OC'ed to 728mhz is exactly enough to notch up it's video and gaming performance so you can enjoy them. And of-course, my PC processor that came @1.8 Ghz and now running @2.8Ghz, gets quite a boost out of it.
Unfortunately, we probably can't OC the Diamond processor (at least not with any current software).

I think in the Diamond most of the cases CPU doesn't reach to 528Mhz anyway , I guess to save battery, I had b4 P3300 and tried to overclocking it, and saw how the battery becomes empty too fast..
So in the Diamond, specially with the poor battery no needs to overclocking it...

Taking advantage of Blackstone code?

Hi all,
Since the X1 hardware is so similar to Blackstone, is it possible to use what the Blackstone guys are doing to improve performance on the X1?
What I am most interested in is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442712
BETA graphics drivers for improving OpenGL speed. There is also a benchmark thread in the Blackstone forums, do the same benchies work with X1? Could be useful to have a reference for which ROMs are actually fastest.
Just some thoughts, hope for a response from a guru!
-Oobly

So I was reading that thread...
Theres a faq there:
"..
Q: Are these solely for MSM720X devices?
A: Yes, since the files used only work with the MSM720X chipset. And not even ALL MSM720X chipsets.
Q: So, which devices are supported?
A: Currently only newer devices: the Kaiser, Polaris, Nike, Diamond and up. There MAY be more in the future though.
.."

here is my take on all this:
-the neo2007 work on xperia but i cant see any performance increase
-the xperia is running @400mhz not 528mhz like the HD or td2. so dont ever expect it to reach the same level of performance. i have tested many cooked roms on xperia and they all trail the HD or TD2 stock roms in application and multitasking performance

THE GRIZZ said:
here is my take on all this:
-the neo2007 work on xperia but i cant see any performance increase
-the xperia is running @400mhz not 528mhz like the HD or td2. so dont ever expect it to reach the same level of performance. i have tested many cooked roms on xperia and they all trail the HD or TD2 stock roms in application and multitasking performance
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on the other hand, i (which are currently running Touch X 6.1 with various performance tweaks) find that the custom ROM that i'm currently using are faster and have better responce compared to a TD2 running on stock ROM that i've tested for 30 minutes in a store.
if that extra Mhz really matters, then it could always be unlocked using neurom. i did also tried neurom only to find that it decreases my battery life.
so i'm sticking with 400 mhz that lasts me 3-4 days than a 2 days 528mhz.
and no, i'm not biased just because i'm using an x1.

ejat said:
if that extra Mhz really matters, then it could always be unlocked using neurom. i did also tried neurom only to find that it decreases my battery life.
so i'm sticking with 400 mhz that lasts me 3-4 days than a 2 days 528mhz..
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i tried using neurom but i could not overclock it to 528. if you can please let us now how. to test if it worked test with something like the core player or tcmp (both have benchmarking tools) and the game xtract.
both apps will give you real world performance and both perform clearly worse on my xperia then on td2
ohh and %20 less cpu speed will not double the battery life. the x1 has a nice big 1500mah battery

Thanks for the replies guys!
I always thought the xperia runs a 7200A processor at 528MHz...?? That's what all the spec sheets say at least.
About speed and battery life, increasing the CPU speed by 20% can certainly double power usage especially if it is an overclock. Both power usage and heat generated increase dramatically when overclocking CPU's in PC's and I don't expect it is any different with mobile CPU's.
I am disappointed by the benchmark results I see for xperia, but I really love the hardware layout and size. According to the specifications it should run faster than it seems to....

Any definitive answers about CPU clock speed? Anyone? From what I have read, the 7200 CPU runs at 400 and the 7200A at 528. The X1 has a 7200A and all the spec sheets I have seen and "official" specs say 528MHz.
Have we been screwed again by HTC? <--- referring to the 3D driver issue....

What is THE fastest ROM out there?

After having tried out a few ROMs (none recently) I am somewhat disappointed with my Diamond's performance. I am tired of waiting for my menu pages to finally appear after selecting them, I don't feel the urge to keep on trying out new ROMs until one is maybe 10% faster than the original.
Is there any ROM/UI solution that is really fast and immediately makes my phone display what it is supposed to? What about other TF versions/substitutions?
Besides speed, my only requirements are absence of annoying bugs and a slider/hw-buttons-only option to accept/reject calls.
Could you guys please give me a recommendation? What was the fastest solution you encountered? Thanks in advance.

Mmmm....
That all depends on what you call fast. The device will never perform like current devices. The only speed increase I've noticed after trying many, many ROM's is with TF3D2. This is way quicker than the original TF3D shipped with the Diamond, but as for the general day to day operation, none of the ROM's in my opinion, are any quicker than any other.
Sure, chef's comment on lightening this, and speedy that, but at the end of the day, we're stuck with what that crap OMAP processor can handle. Bring on the Snapdragon powered devices!

I remember reading something about the CPU taking all the load for graphics processing. Is there a dedicated GPU and wouldn't appropriate drivers for its usage speed things up? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

the cpu is an MSM7201A which got an ATI Imageon gpu integrated into it

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the cpu is an MSM7201A which got an ATI Imageon gpu integrated into it
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Sorry... my apologies! I was thinking of the original Touch! You're quite right, the Diamond has a QUALCOMM processor

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Affenpeter said:
I remember reading something about the CPU taking all the load for graphics processing. Is there a dedicated GPU and wouldn't appropriate drivers for its usage speed things up? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I believe that 64MB of the onboard 192MB are dedicated to graphics processing. Drivers may come in to it, but whether updated drivers would make a huge speed difference is debateable!