just wondering if its possible?
528mhz stock..i know we dont really need the speed
but it would be nice to have the option
juz a friendly warning bro,overclocking is very dangerous.
very very risky on phones, i wouldn't recommend it at all!
also overclocking the cpu will likely just
help a tiny bit because of the other bottlenecks
in the system like ram and flash and io speeds
and overclocking will result in a flat batt pretty fast
suspect most speed inc people feel is purely placebo effect
I've overclockt my artemis and is a lot faster. I've used batterystatus. But i dont know if you can use this programme on a diamond.
Who will test it?
At the moment there exists no program to overclock the diamond.
So this discussion is useless.
TDO
There is a program though.
I don't know how efficient it is, because i'm not interested myself, since the Diamond already has an over-heating problem, I don't think it's wise to overclock it.
The program is called 'performance' and it is designed for Qualcom CPU, like the one Diamond is using.
Give it a try.
(I'm afraid there is only one frecuency avalaible, 660 mhz if i recall right, so, under 700)
The last discussion about "performance" has concluded with the conclusion that it's a fraud, or doesn't do anything at best.
about OC in general, I'm OC'ing everything I own that can be OC'ed. The performance differences are huge, and 99.99% of the time completely safe if you know what you're doing. KJAM OC'ed to 260mhz is one of the fastest devices out there, faster than TYTN, Kaiser or Diamond. The Athena OC'ed to 728mhz is exactly enough to notch up it's video and gaming performance so you can enjoy them. And of-course, my PC processor that came @1.8 Ghz and now running @2.8Ghz, gets quite a boost out of it.
Unfortunately, we probably can't OC the Diamond processor (at least not with any current software).
I think in the Diamond most of the cases CPU doesn't reach to 528Mhz anyway , I guess to save battery, I had b4 P3300 and tried to overclocking it, and saw how the battery becomes empty too fast..
So in the Diamond, specially with the poor battery no needs to overclocking it...
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The way overclocking my original Touch helped with the lags due to the TouchFlo cube got me thinking: is it possible to overclock the Diamond beyond 528MHz? I heard before that Qualcomm processors were un-overclockable? Is this still valid? If not, how can I overclock my Diamond and what are the risks?
Blimey, how much hotter do we want the Diamond to get!
Methinks the battery isn't really up to it either...
It is hot but we need to acknowledge that it does lag sometimes.
A better battery is coming out in the near future (1350mAh) so I'm guessing we should consider overclocking.
I think the Processor is plenty fast enough . Its the operating system and a plugin that is causing the lag .
If you run the device without the 3d pluggin its very quick. Its just that the operating system is enhanced to the hardware but the pluggin is not as intergrated so will never run as fast
Count me in on anything that has the word:
Overclocking Like my insanely smoothly running Overclocked Vista Ultimate Machine!
wardy said:
I think the Processor is plenty fast enough . Its the operating system and a plugin that is causing the lag .
If you run the device without the 3d pluggin its very quick. Its just that the operating system is enhanced to the hardware but the pluggin is not as intergrated so will never run as fast
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I understand that if WM 6.1 runs smoothly on a 201MHz TI-OMAP processor, it will fly on a 528MHz processor. The point is to get TouchFlo3D to integrate that greatly with the remainder of the OS since it is the most appealing feature of the device. I think that upping the processor to say 650MHz would largely facilitate this.
no no no boys I think that more usefull will be underclock processor for better battery life when you didnt need so much performance...automated state will be the BEST!!! so try to think in this direction...
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no no no boys I think that more usefull will be underclock processor for better battery life when you didnt need so much performance...automated state will be the BEST!!! so try to think in this direction...
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I'm waiting for this option as well
is it ppossible to oc the touch diamond? and what program do i need?
i would really like to oc it!!
Bunch of fools :/ Overclocking a phone that already has overheating issues AND battery life issues.
Am I correct in thinking that there are other devices with the same processor running at 400mhz, if so the speed must be scalable? I agree that the diamond is quick already but if the speed was scalable like battery status with the TI omap I had in my old Artemis, then the battery should last longer since usually it would be running underclocked.
i will buy external bat. is there any program for oc touch diamond
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no no no boys I think that more usefull will be underclock processor for better battery life when you didnt need so much performance...automated state will be the BEST!!! so try to think in this direction...
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Valid point. I guess the software that will overclock the Diamond will also allow underclocking so the goal is the same.
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Bunch of fools :/ Overclocking a phone that already has overheating issues AND battery life issues.
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An extended battery is on the way and I haven't encountered any overheating issues yet. You better check your facts before calling everyone fools.
Apparently there isn't any such software available given that nobody has made suggestions concerning the availabilty of such software yet.
http://www.batteryupgrade.se/produc...9&PHP5SESSID=fe2844f3866fcfcdecb1881ab80afa2d
1800 mAh battery
so no software for now?
do you think it will be avilable one day?
I hope so but I think the problem is that most Qualcomm processors have fast enough clocks so the incentive for developers to look into the problem isn't that great.
Actually, how much resources are required to develop such an application? We could start raising funds to that end.
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http://www.batteryupgrade.se/produc...9&PHP5SESSID=fe2844f3866fcfcdecb1881ab80afa2d
1800 mAh battery
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Yeah. I know about this one but I also heard that GPS doesn't work well when it's on.
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http://www.batteryupgrade.se/produc...9&PHP5SESSID=fe2844f3866fcfcdecb1881ab80afa2d
1800 mAh battery
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are you joking I bought Diamond because of dims and weight...If I ll want thick basta*d I ll buy HTC touch Pro muhehe or better stay with my Kaiser
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I could have sworn that the processor in the diamond is UNDERCLOCKED as standard, and does not even run at 528Mhz..
If true, probably a decision to conserve battery since 900mAH is bugger all.
Also, again if this is true, you could probably assume it could at least be clocked to 528Mhz which would speed it up, at least make a difference from what were all used to.
Even with TouchFLO3D disabled, I find the Diamond to be not as responsive as other (much older) WinMo devices, this just does not seem to make any sense. An underclocked CPU would explain a lot of things, IMO.
The question is, how can we find out the truth?
with some software like cpu-z for pc.
are there programs for oc other htc products?
Did anybody manage to overclock our qualcomm ?
My old cingular 8125 is running 280 mhz fo years now ...
some more speed is needed for gaming ....
Please help !
Forgive me , i just saw another thread but no real answer ..
Can you even overclock the Diamond chip? I thought only the OMAP chips can be overclocked. But I could be wrong.
If that is possible, it would be awesome!
But i'm n00b on this, but i think this is impossible, right...?
Battery life is already bad and you want to get it even worse? And in my opinion processor speed is good enough for everything like games, videos etc. I don't think that somebody is going to try overclocking Diamond.
What about downclockng? maybe for normal use it would be enough with a load of 70%. A scalar way as in omap processors
Wonderful! I have the ROM Lucapicci 1.8.1 and it works very well!
http://rapidshare.com/files/224152407/Performance.exe
I think that software can be dangerous to our HD´s, have you used it during a long time? any crash?
I'm using it from 2 days without problems!
Can you at least post some more info or some screenshots.
Never know, this may just be a virus
However I have no responsibilities. Is your risk!
Good work!
How about battery usage and warming?
overclocking about 20% for such a small device, i think is not very good.
2 days no problem i think is because u havn't used maximal of the clock, if you do that constantly, i think your touch HD might start crashing (more often, it crashs quiet often already ))
Hmm I´m a big fan of every overclocking (my home pc processor is a core 2 quad that normaly has 2.4GHz and it´s working on 4.1GHz without any problems).
Now my question is where can I see that the cpu of the touch hd really runs on 624MHz? And can someone post some benchmark tests comparing to the normal speed of 520MHz please???
I did not benchmark but it is obvious when you open applications or windows folder of HD simply.
it's a fake ... isn't the first post a the subject
Im sure that its fake! it doesnt work on qualcomms cpu.. make some benchs (coreplayer, sktools) then u ll see that there´s no difference btw 528 and 624mhz...
bye
Fake
Just instaled, Bench and the results
CPU Performance: Float : 713
CPU Performance: Integer : 8216
versus std
CPU Performance: Float : 785
CPU Performance: Integer : 8220
These are pure CPU. No bottle necks. Should see approx 20% improvement
eg
900 and 9850
Its a fake
i wouldnt overclock my 900 dollar hd anyways. i used to overclock my palm tungsten devices and a couple of my treos that used pxa procs and it shortend their life considerably. i would take them from the stock 200 and 312 to 312 and 400 respectively. it did improver performance for certain things like viewing pics and watching video but i have no performance issues with the HD
Its definately not working.
I made some benchmarks!
Nothing changes, shame! Perhaps it is definitely a fake! But he's nice!
I'm sorry!
This is the standard HTC Performance application that hasn't worked for years, from before the Vogue. Doesn't support the new Qualcomm processors.
How about this?
I don't think this is fake but who is willing to fry their HD?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507301&highlight=clockspeed
I don't understand one thing. First of all, whether if the poster is posting something real or not, I will for sure not trying to OC my device. I luv my device in anyway, and I've no complaint with the speed, even if I do, I would blame on the operating system and the software, not the hardware.
I wouldn't putting stress to my HD if I were you guys. OC nature is like this, "if you take something, you must give away something too"! What is wrong with the HD that needed to be oc??????
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I wouldn't putting stress to my HD if I were you guys. OC nature is like this, "if you take something, you must give away something too"! What is wrong with the HD that needed to be oc??????
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I think you don't understand the overclockers . Some guys are keen on getting the maximum out of their devices, its not really rational at all, but its good to know whether something like this is possible, or not.
its a choose I would not risk it , its not a PC only a mobile phone, the speed on HD currently we have is far better than shorten it life by putting overload clock speed, Kill your HD if you like
After having tried out a few ROMs (none recently) I am somewhat disappointed with my Diamond's performance. I am tired of waiting for my menu pages to finally appear after selecting them, I don't feel the urge to keep on trying out new ROMs until one is maybe 10% faster than the original.
Is there any ROM/UI solution that is really fast and immediately makes my phone display what it is supposed to? What about other TF versions/substitutions?
Besides speed, my only requirements are absence of annoying bugs and a slider/hw-buttons-only option to accept/reject calls.
Could you guys please give me a recommendation? What was the fastest solution you encountered? Thanks in advance.
Mmmm....
That all depends on what you call fast. The device will never perform like current devices. The only speed increase I've noticed after trying many, many ROM's is with TF3D2. This is way quicker than the original TF3D shipped with the Diamond, but as for the general day to day operation, none of the ROM's in my opinion, are any quicker than any other.
Sure, chef's comment on lightening this, and speedy that, but at the end of the day, we're stuck with what that crap OMAP processor can handle. Bring on the Snapdragon powered devices!
I remember reading something about the CPU taking all the load for graphics processing. Is there a dedicated GPU and wouldn't appropriate drivers for its usage speed things up? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
the cpu is an MSM7201A which got an ATI Imageon gpu integrated into it
Ooops!
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the cpu is an MSM7201A which got an ATI Imageon gpu integrated into it
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Sorry... my apologies! I was thinking of the original Touch! You're quite right, the Diamond has a QUALCOMM processor
Graphics...
Affenpeter said:
I remember reading something about the CPU taking all the load for graphics processing. Is there a dedicated GPU and wouldn't appropriate drivers for its usage speed things up? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I believe that 64MB of the onboard 192MB are dedicated to graphics processing. Drivers may come in to it, but whether updated drivers would make a huge speed difference is debateable!
Has anyone tried to set the Maximal CPU Speed to 624 Mhz? I admit I'm afraid to set it to 624, because there is a note where it says Overclocking to 624 Mhz may cause random lockups, "white screen" issue, a damage to the device with warranty loss. I was thinking, maybe if it would work, we could run manilla 2.5 ass smooth as it gets for the Blackstone.
Any thoughts?
it's on your own risk!
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Has anyone tried to set the Maximal CPU Speed to 624 Mhz? I admit I'm afraid to set it to 624, because there is a note where it says Overclocking to 624 Mhz may cause random lockups, "white screen" issue, a damage to the device with warranty loss. I was thinking, maybe if it would work, we could run manilla 2.5 ass smooth as it gets for the Blackstone.
Any thoughts?
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1- sry for bad English
2-overclocking is normally dangerous for CPU or Graphic Card in long time!
but it can be dangerous in short time but in short time has a very low risk!
I can't say to you to overclock but it's normal on PCs or laptops (your Graphic Card is always work overclock when you're playing)
but I will never test it on my device
overclock may cause to wrong processes! 2+2=134234 !!!!!!!
and may use battery above normal or can make the CPU too hot!
non of these are dangerous in short time
but it's on your own risk to check it!
cotzy said:
Has anyone tried to set the Maximal CPU Speed to 624 Mhz? I admit I'm afraid to set it to 624, because there is a note where it says Overclocking to 624 Mhz may cause random lockups, "white screen" issue, a damage to the device with warranty loss. I was thinking, maybe if it would work, we could run manilla 2.5 ass smooth as it gets for the Blackstone.
Any thoughts?
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Other major trade offs in addition to what you have already mentioned is the battery life/consumption. Not sure if it's worth overclocking although with the cold winters in Canada here, I'm sure the device would keep us warmer as overclocking it also attributed to over heating as well.
All these stresses would I'm sure subtract the HD's overall life span, not to mention the risk of the device dying upon immediate attempt.
I will stick to the department of overclocking computers which have the proper cooling tools necessary for a successful setup.
Dynamic overclocking
On my Artemis (P3300) there was an app that overclocked the device dynamically, and this was excellent for battery.
My TyTN II didn't have that (at least not at the time), which was disappointing.
Would it be possible to adjust the clockspeed dynamically like on the Artemis?
It could vary the speed from pretty darn overclocked to dog slow
repvik said:
On my Artemis (P3300) there was an app that overclocked the device dynamically, and this was excellent for battery.
My TyTN II didn't have that (at least not at the time), which was disappointing.
Would it be possible to adjust the clockspeed dynamically like on the Artemis?
It could vary the speed from pretty darn overclocked to dog slow
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OMAPs are easy to overclock, My Herald was overclocked. Qualcomms do not do that well. Also, I do not think there is an overclock app for them.
I DO !!!
I am having some problems with my blackstone and I have no fear to overclock it...
Could someone tell me how to overclock it ?
TNX!!!