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Overclocking the Diamond to 700mhz

just wondering if its possible?
528mhz stock..i know we dont really need the speed
but it would be nice to have the option

juz a friendly warning bro,overclocking is very dangerous.

very very risky on phones, i wouldn't recommend it at all!

also overclocking the cpu will likely just
help a tiny bit because of the other bottlenecks
in the system like ram and flash and io speeds
and overclocking will result in a flat batt pretty fast
suspect most speed inc people feel is purely placebo effect

I've overclockt my artemis and is a lot faster. I've used batterystatus. But i dont know if you can use this programme on a diamond.
Who will test it?

At the moment there exists no program to overclock the diamond.
So this discussion is useless.
TDO

There is a program though.
I don't know how efficient it is, because i'm not interested myself, since the Diamond already has an over-heating problem, I don't think it's wise to overclock it.
The program is called 'performance' and it is designed for Qualcom CPU, like the one Diamond is using.
Give it a try.
(I'm afraid there is only one frecuency avalaible, 660 mhz if i recall right, so, under 700)

The last discussion about "performance" has concluded with the conclusion that it's a fraud, or doesn't do anything at best.
about OC in general, I'm OC'ing everything I own that can be OC'ed. The performance differences are huge, and 99.99% of the time completely safe if you know what you're doing. KJAM OC'ed to 260mhz is one of the fastest devices out there, faster than TYTN, Kaiser or Diamond. The Athena OC'ed to 728mhz is exactly enough to notch up it's video and gaming performance so you can enjoy them. And of-course, my PC processor that came @1.8 Ghz and now running @2.8Ghz, gets quite a boost out of it.
Unfortunately, we probably can't OC the Diamond processor (at least not with any current software).

I think in the Diamond most of the cases CPU doesn't reach to 528Mhz anyway , I guess to save battery, I had b4 P3300 and tried to overclocking it, and saw how the battery becomes empty too fast..
So in the Diamond, specially with the poor battery no needs to overclocking it...

Processor speed 528 or 400?

Hi all,
I notice that all the marketing data and spec sheets say the X1 has a 528MHz processor, but some people are saying it has a 400MHz. Does anyone here know what speed their device is actually running at?
-Oobly

well, 528mhz is correct.
the plugin homescreen++ showes 400mhz, but i think that this information in wrong.

The phone has a 528mhz processor, but it only runs at 400mhz - meaning that it does not run at full speed unless you tweak the settings.

Okay, so how do you tweak the settings? Does neuClockControl work to set it to 528MHz?
A processor specified to work at 528MHz running at 400MHz is still just a 400MHz processor if there is no way to make it run at 528. If this is the case then we have been royally screwed by SE/HTC.
I would like to be able to push it to 528MHz for gaming, etc (I don't mind the extra power usage if it means better performance), and change it back to 400 manually again for normal use (so it uses less battery power).
-Oobly

Oobly said:
Okay, so how do you tweak the settings? Does neuClockControl work to set it to 528MHz?
-Oobly
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yep i use Nuecpl-ClockSpeed and the cpu work at max speed without problems....

PredatorX11 said:
yep i use Nuecpl-ClockSpeed and the cpu work at max speed without problems....
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Cool! So does it actually show 528MHz and can you see a difference in performance?

I'm pretty sure it runs on 528mhz, not at 400. It is not slower than touch pro/hd expect graphical apps, where the video drivers count. Plus I saw the clock rate on some WinMo software as 528.something mhz, or was it 529mhz. Can't remember the software, but I couldn't care less if some old software with old DB misjudges the 7200A with 7200 processor and says that the cpu runs at 400mhz sharp. That's not reliable at all. Plus it's almost imposible to keep the cpu at 400.00mhz, just like 528.00mhz, it's usually a little bit more or less. So if it is a real measurement, you would probably see something like 401.25 or 528.84 or something Mhz. Have you done some benchmarks on SKTools for example. The cpu is somethimes on par with Samsung Omnia, which should be a Marvell PXA312 624 MHz processor. A 400mhz cpu just can not do that, even though mhz to mhz is not a proper way to compare CPU speed.
Here's a little info on what I mean: SKTools shows that the cpu speed is 400 000 000 hz, which is obviously not the real value but something predefined. Also the Integer Test on SkTools gave a value of 329.8084 units, which is on par with Touch Pro/HD and much faster than Omnia 1 with value of 253.10 on this test. The floating point is 7.552 MWIPS, again on par with the other 528mhz devices, and here it is slower than the top in list 8.63 MWIPS Omnia 624Mhz. The conclusion should be clear - either all devices are underclocked (together with X1) or X1 is running on 528Mhz cpu.

installed the software and started it up, it says my cpu is at 528mhz. where are people getting the 400mhz from?
Official R3 uk rom

TCPMP sometimes shows me 530Mhz XD

Ganondolf said:
installed the software and started it up, it says my cpu is at 528mhz. where are people getting the 400mhz from?
Official R3 uk rom
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4264970&postcount=3
And a few other places. Could just be reported incorrectly to some software, especially when they display exactly 400MHz. On the other hand it could be that CorePlayer or the OS somehow ups the speed to 528 when it is needed. I have heard reports of devices running faster when leaving a video open in the background. Maybe there is already some dynamic clock adjustment going on even without using neuDynamicClock?

this is what i think. the x1 is running at 538mhz but sometimes (with some app/ tasks) its been told to stay at 400mhz for some reason unknown to us (maybe to save battery or so it does not overheat).
if u look at the iphone we know for a fact that it was underclocked but the x1 nowhere has it even been said that its been underclocked apart from a few people on this forum, and i reckon that the app / software is not giving a proper / accurate reading or the app been told to run at 400mhz and people have just assumed that the cpu is underclocked. as i said this software is saying its running a 528mhz, which is the official spec for the cpu, so i cant see how people have handsets that are underclocked.

Oobly said:
Cool! So does it actually show 528MHz and can you see a difference in performance?
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sorry no, i have not tested the x1 at default speed.
but with this software you can change the speed from same state... and a little or medium improvement is possible.
i use the 528 mhz and level 0 for the voltage. to put the chipset to 528 mhz at 1.1 volt instead of 1.325 volt
and in stand-by i put the chipset at 122 mhz and 1.1 volt

Ganondolf said:
this is what i think. the x1 is running at 538mhz but sometimes (with some app/ tasks) its been told to stay at 400mhz for some reason unknown to us (maybe to save battery or so it does not overheat).
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I agree with that. Even the modern CPUs run at lower speeds if not utilized enough, not to mention that this should be a must for the handheld/pocket devices.

funny thing is, that I've installed nue dynamic clock and without changing anything in the past it shows that my device clock is running 528 mhz @ 1.1V. it is all soo damn confusing...

bronx said:
funny thing is, that I've installed nue dynamic clock and without changing anything in the past it shows that my device clock is running 528 mhz @ 1.1V. it is all soo damn confusing...
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I did this as well, with nue dynamic clock showing 528mHz.
Homescreen++ still shows 400 mHz though. Only thing I can think is that Homescreen++ looks up the processor and mistakes it with a predecessor.
In other news, xperia is darn side quicker than my Kaiser, with a much more beautiful screen bonus, but maybe the speed is related to that 'drivers' story

Anyone know what registry settings Nue alters?
I want to try to overclock.

ring-bearer said:
Anyone know what registry settings Nue alters?
I want to try to overclock.
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You cannot do that.

Calvin H said:
I did this as well, with nue dynamic clock showing 528mHz.
Homescreen++ still shows 400 mHz though. Only thing I can think is that Homescreen++ looks up the processor and mistakes it with a predecessor.
In other news, xperia is darn side quicker than my Kaiser, with a much more beautiful screen bonus, but maybe the speed is related to that 'drivers' story
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hey! I was a kaiser user as well and x1 is much faster indeed. what more, You musn't forget that it's resolution is more than four times higher.

orelsi said:
You cannot do that.
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I actually did overclock my fuze, to 628MHz. There is a program in the raphael section; performance something something...
I tried it right before i received my x1, and i didn't notice any improvements or problems.
I belive the same app should work for the x1, since it has same chip.

Stalix said:
I actually did overclock my fuze, to 628MHz. There is a program in the raphael section; performance something something...
I tried it right before i received my x1, and i didn't notice any improvements or problems.
I belive the same app should work for the x1, since it has same chip.
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I'd be all over that. I searched the forum but came up empty. If you happen to remember the name, let me know. I'll run a bunch of benchmarks and post them here.

To OC or not OC, that is the question

hi folks, thinking about leaving oc on permenantly (1200 mhz) I an aware of the dangers, but thought about getting some facts, my question is, how long have people been running art 1200 mhz without any issues, how many weeks or months?
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1200mhz refers to the highest clock. Your phone doesn't stick to that frequency all the time. It generally scales from 100mhz to 1200mhz. It doesn't really matter if you overclock your device except for effects on battery and I don't think there would be any effect on the Hardware as much as that of an Overclocked computer cpu and considering the average number of months people tend to use their mobile device before getting a new and a better phone.

dhiru1602 said:
1200mhz refers to the highest clock. Your phone doesn't stick to that frequency all the time. It generally scales from 100mhz to 1200mhz. It doesn't really matter if you overclock your device except for effects on battery and I don't think there would be any effect on the Hardware as much as that of an Overclocked computer cpu and considering the average number of months people tend to use their mobile device before getting a new and a better phone.
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my phone spends approx 20% of its time at Max freq, thats 1/5 th of its time. I think there would be more potential damage than a computer cpu as these have much better cooling (fans), I just want to know how long people have run at say 1200 without any issues.
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Longest time: two weeks ... whitout problems ...

I'm been overclocking my SGS for over 6 months now, no issues at all.
"Standard" voltage values seems to work fine on my device (1350mV at 1200MHz, 1400mV at 1300MHz) but I've tried to undervolt a bit more than once and had no issues as well.
Bye

There are absolutely no dangers in OC/UV. The worst thing to happen is a freeze or reboot once in a while if u go too high. I've been having 1.5mhz w/ some UV for like 2 months and nothing happened so no worries.

Been doing that for about a month now. No problem.
Knowledge is Power. Guard it well.

there are no risks if you overclock your device,but of course depends on how you do it. first of all i would not go past 1300mV which is the physical limit of our beloved hummingbird..of course you can do that,but past 1300mV you are going to shorten the life of your CPU. if you change phone every year then,there's no problem
then if you want to overclock keeping safe voltage values just get Tegrak Overclock,don't activate the "CPU MAX frequency" option,go in optimization tab instead and push up the max frequency by little steps keeping the voltage at the default value of 1275. test it a bit till you reach the most stable one. for example my CPU it's totally rocksolid 'till 1132MHz at 1275mV,no more. but there are CPUs which can archieve better results. then if you want to optimize and save battery consumption you can play a bit with UV on the other frequencies,cheers

[Q] Undervolted

I've undervolted my device and right now I have
100mhz - 825 mah
200mhz - 825 mah
500mhz - 800 mah
for some reason the 500mhz setting is stable and if I undervolt 100mhz/200mhz even more, I crash.
If I set my minimum processor power to 500mhz would I consume less batter than if I were to use 100mhz/200mhz?

Your phone spends most of its time in the lowest and highest cpu frequencies and just a small amount of time at the intermediate levels. Your undervolt for 500mhz probably isn't stable but it doesn't crash because it's only at that frequency for a very short amount of time. If you set the minimum to 500mhz at that voltage it will probably start playing up.
http:/ /db.tt/iy1bKVoB
graph of my cpu levels

Abit offtopic but what the hell!
I was wondering if there's any risks involved with undervolting?
I don't meen the crashes and freeze ups, but rather more like if there's any risk
to really damage your phone from it?
I have and still do alot of OC in the computer world, and do know what overvolting can do. But i'm still curious about what uv can do to your system.

Maskell said:
Your phone spends most of its time in the lowest and highest cpu frequencies and just a small amount of time at the intermediate levels. Your undervolt for 500mhz probably isn't stable but it doesn't crash because it's only at that frequency for a very short amount of time. If you set the minimum to 500mhz at that voltage it will probably start playing up.
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graph of my cpu levels
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It's been my minimum even before posting this thread. I just started to wonder.
I've been on it for 10 hours now. I have 45% battery life left. Probably due to my 1700mhz being @ 1350mah right now.
I can assure you, it's VERY stable. It's so SMOOTH. Smoother than just having rocketrom and all that stuff. NO LAGS, NO SHUTDOWNS. ALL STABLE.
I can see better battery life, and CPU Spy says it used up 47% 1700mhz and 40% 500mhz. I think it's giving me better battery life.
It's evenly splitted up probably because I was using lulzactive governor.
but then again I didn't log my previous battery life without undervolting.
Some more insight would be nice.
SweCrow81 said:
Abit offtopic but what the hell!
I was wondering if there's any risks involved with undervolting?
I don't meen the crashes and freeze ups, but rather more like if there's any risk
to really damage your phone from it?
I have and still do alot of OC in the computer world, and do know what overvolting can do. But i'm still curious about what uv can do to your system.
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There are alot of risks. Minor chance that you will cause hardware damage to your phone but I'm saying VERY minor. Just don't be stupid with voltages, like just suddenly overdropping the voltages. Your processor might die.
It's scary as hell, it crashes alot while testing and all that ****.
Feels good when you get it stable though.
TL;DR
Very slight chance to damage your hardware; only if you're very daring.
It should increase your battery life by atleast 20% if you reach the peak of your processors limit.

Bump, are there no other insights on this? Am I like, the only one who undervolted his/her note?
help

clairenix said:
Bump, are there no other insights on this? Am I like, the only one who undervolted his/her note?
help
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I want to run 1700mhz as permanent and also wanted to undervolt but i wasnt sure how much by and what the risks are. Reason being is my phone gets hot with heavy usage running at 1400mhz so didnt want to go to 1700. I'll watch this thread with interest

kaos_king said:
I want to run 1700mhz as permanent and also wanted to undervolt but i wasnt sure how much by and what the risks are. Reason being is my phone gets hot with heavy usage running at 1400mhz so didnt want to go to 1700. I'll watch this thread with interest
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I'm running 500-1700mhz.
Indeed it does get hot at 1700mhz, when I'm playing games but I've only at most played for 4 hours straight.
For what reason would you want to run 1700mhz-1700mhz?

clairenix said:
I'm running 500-1700mhz.
Indeed it does get hot at 1700mhz, when I'm playing games but I've only at most played for 4 hours straight.
For what reason would you want to run 1700mhz-1700mhz?
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No sorry i meant running it at 1700 max, leaving it stock for the min. I just wanted to know how much i can safely undervolt 1700 by.

I actually have a question. I undervolted my note with SetCPU and I read that Tegrak Overclock Ultimate should be used as well together with SetCPU.
What does Tegrak Overclock do? GPU settings?
Would like to learn that part if anyone has any info.

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No sorry i meant running it at 1700 max, leaving it stock for the min. I just wanted to know how much i can safely undervolt 1700 by.
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I undervolted mine by about 100mah. I think I can tone it down by about 25mah more but I'm having a hard time getting it to stabilize.
1350 for my device is completely safe though.
Though, all processors are different. Yours could be better than mine and can withstand more UV-ing.
Goodluck!
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I actually have a question. I undervolted my note with SetCPU and I read that Tegrak Overclock Ultimate should be used as well together with SetCPU.
What does Tegrak Overclock do? GPU settings?
Would like to learn that part if anyone has any info.
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It's basically the same with SetCPU aside from its voltages.
I do not know if it should be used with SetCPU with the note because from what I've researched. It's only a common practice with SGSII.

Tried setting 100 and 200 mhz to 825. Crashed my phone twice in one day using it, gonna revert back to 875

clairenix said:
I undervolted mine by about 100mah. I think I can tone it down by about 25mah more but I'm having a hard time getting it to stabilize.
1350 for my device is completely safe though.
Though, all processors are different. Yours could be better than mine and can withstand more UV-ing.
Goodluck!
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Many thanks!
I will just experiment then, i didnt want to do that and then cause hw damage. I'll let you know how my processor gets on

[Q] Overclocking my SGS to 1.2GHz

Hey Everyone, I just wanna know if I Can OC My SGS to 1.2GHz Without any problems, Because I heared that OC SGS is not stable and It's dagerous for my Phone's Life, I that True ?
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Shadow Life said:
Hey Everyone, I just wanna know if I Can OC My SGS to 1.2GHz Without any problems, Because I heared that OC SGS is not stable and It's dagerous for my Phone's Life, I that True ?
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Yes you can, depending on the kernel you use, oc your phone even up to 1.5 ghz.
Flash Glitch, MNICS, Devil or Semaphore Kernel for ICS roms
Do so with care as OCing WILL degrade your processor faster.

It depends a bit on your luck. Processors aren't all the same (variance in quality during manufacturing), the 1 ghz that is the default is considered a 'safe' level and every processor will be able to do that frequency. Usually though, there's a fair amount of buffer, so most processors can go beyond 1ghz to say 1.2 without any issue.
As the frequency increases, stability decreases. This means your phone will become more prone to crashing. Some people are lucky and can go very high (1.5, 1.7?), while others might start facing instability at 1.2. Won't know until you try. It's unlikely to cause permanent damage anyway, just change back to 1.0 if it's unstable
It probably does increase wear and tear of processor somewhat, but considering people will buy a new phone within 1-2 years, there's really no problem

Oc SGS 1.2Ghz
nwsk said:
It depends a bit on your luck. Processors aren't all the same (variance in quality during manufacturing), the 1 ghz that is the default is considered a 'safe' level and every processor will be able to do that frequency. Usually though, there's a fair amount of buffer, so most processors can go beyond 1ghz to say 1.2 without any issue.
As the frequency increases, stability decreases. This means your phone will become more prone to crashing. Some people are lucky and can go very high (1.5, 1.7?), while others might start facing instability at 1.2. Won't know until you try. It's unlikely to cause permanent damage anyway, just change back to 1.0 if it's unstable
It probably does increase wear and tear of processor somewhat, but considering people will buy a new phone within 1-2 years, there's really no problem
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I Have "[email protected]" Kernel Up to 1.3Ghz, I Don't face any problems When i OC to 1.2GHz,, Games run smooth (Real racing 2) And the phone is Very responsive,, But when i play about 2 Hours My phone's temperatur increase (Just a Little Bit) but i don't know if it may Effect my Phone's Life,,

Shadow Life said:
I Have "[email protected]" Kernel Up to 1.3Ghz, I Don't face any problems When i OC to 1.2GHz,, Games run smooth (Real racing 2) And the phone is Very responsive,, But when i play about 2 Hours My phone's temperatur increase (Just a Little Bit) but i don't know if it may Effect my Phone's Life,,
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Being electronics' worst enemy, heat can and will kill your phone. But that's only if it reaches those temperatures. Overclocking your phone naturally will increase heat from the processor. Check your phones temperature. If you're reaching 50C or over, you're getting too hot. The general rule of thumb is this: if it's uncomfortable to the touch, your phone is too hot.
Most phones should get to 1.2 GHz without a problem. Keep in mind that LiveOC is NOT THE SAME as adding another frequency step, which was the traditional way of overclocking. Some kernels do one, some do the other, and some do both. Adding an additional frequency step to get to 1.2 GHz should be capable by most if not all phones. LiveOCing to 1.2 GHz won't be nearly as compatible, as it overclocks the bus, GPU and CPU.

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Being electronics' worst enemy, heat can and will kill your phone. But that's only if it reaches those temperatures. Overclocking your phone naturally will increase heat from the processor. Check your phones temperature. If you're reaching 50C or over, you're getting too hot. The general rule of thumb is this: if it's uncomfortable to the touch, your phone is too hot.
Most phones should get to 1.2 GHz without a problem. Keep in mind that LiveOC is NOT THE SAME as adding another frequency step, which was the traditional way of overclocking. Some kernels do one, some do the other, and some do both. Adding an additional frequency step to get to 1.2 GHz should be capable by most if not all phones. LiveOCing to 1.2 GHz won't be nearly as compatible, as it overclocks the bus, GPU and CPU.
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