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i was flashing ship ROM and on 1% it says this nbf is not for ur phone and stops, i've reset it and bootloader starts with ipl 1.01 spl 2.16, should i use NoID_ruu to flash other custom ROM?
you need to flash an official rom first, or a custom rom with updated bootloaders
dont look at my signature, that was before pda service replace my ROM with G3 chip, and ipl\spl was 1.0\1.03, then i did what is right to do - i flash an official ship rom, and then all go as i describe above
__s said:
i was flashing ship ROM and on 1% it says this nbf is not for ur phone and stops, i've reset it and bootloader starts with ipl 1.01 spl 2.16, should i use NoID_ruu to flash other custom ROM?
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This is karma in action.
strange but last time i saw this combination of numbers my phone was dead , but now it's still alive, and i flash molski then faria rom and everything went fine. f..ing magic. praise the lord ppl.
__s said:
strange but last time i saw this combination of numbers my phone was dead , but now it's still alive, and i flash molski then faria rom and everything went fine. f..ing magic. praise the lord ppl.
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Try any 2.25 or 2.26 ROM before upgrading to Faria's, you'll have IPL, SPL 2.xx
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Try any 2.25 or 2.26 ROM before upgrading to Faria's, you'll have IPL, SPL 2.xx
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thats what i did, everything is updated as my signature shows. thanx anyway
__s said:
thats what i did, everything is updated as my signature shows. thanx anyway
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flash an official rom, then flash a custom rom
or maybe try downgrading to a 1.xx rom, then reflash and official rom, then flash a custom rom....
__s said:
thats what i did, everything is updated as my signature shows. thanx anyway
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Here's what i did:
Original Rom on my 8125: IPL 2.25, SPL 2.25
-downgrade to 1.xx using CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE ROM.=>Result: IPL 1.05, SPL 2.25.
-Copy and run Enaberapi.cab on my device
-Run lokiwiz 02b. Choose CID unlock.(fone restarts onced completed)
-Uprade to 2.26 ROM from Cingular_RUU_Wizard_2.26 =>Result: IPL 2.26, SPL2.26
-Upgrade again to FARIA's AKU 3.2 8MB.Result :IPL 2.26, SPL2.26 OS 3.0.0
Note:Faria's Rom doesn't include any bootloader version.You have to upgrade to 2.xx before uprgrade to Faria's.You may bricked your fone for a while if upgrading to Faria's with IPL 1.xx and SPL 1.xx
Good luck!
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Here's what i did:
Original Rom on my 8125: IPL 2.25, SPL 2.25
-downgrade to 1.xx using CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE ROM.=>Result: IPL 1.05, SPL 2.25.
-Copy and run Enaberapi.cab on my device
-Run lokiwiz 02b. Choose CID unlock.(fone restarts onced completed)
-Uprade to 2.26 ROM from Cingular_RUU_Wizard_2.26 =>Result: IPL 2.26, SPL2.26
-Upgrade again to FARIA's AKU 3.2 8MB.Result :IPL 2.26, SPL2.26 OS 3.0.0
Note:Faria's Rom doesn't include any bootloader version.You have to upgrade to 2.xx before uprgrade to Faria's.You may bricked your fone for a while if upgrading to Faria's with IPL 1.xx and SPL 1.xx
Good luck!
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thanx ppl, but as said i did all this , everything is fine, im testing faria's rom atm, trying to figure out how to setup PAN, and a2dp seems have some problem too, but i think i'll manage this.
oops , its not allright, faria's rom flashed, os version is correct(build 3.2.0), but alot of things not working, i guess it is becuz of ipl 1.01 version, i need both of em to be 2.xx, i'll try to downgrade to 1.01 ruu costom rom, we'll see what will happend.
__s said:
dont look at my signature, that was before pda service replace my ROM with G3 chip, and ipl\spl was 1.0\1.03, then i did what is right to do - i flash an official ship rom, and then all go as i describe above
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i wonder if your problems have anything to do with the fact that your chip was changed.. or maybe not done correctly
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i wonder if your problems have anything to do with the fact that your chip was changed.. or maybe not done correctly
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As far as i know, they will just change the whole maching rather than changing only the chips... The way the soldering is done on the chips means they can't be taken out easily...
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As far as i know, they will just change the whole maching rather than changing only the chips... The way the soldering is done on the chips means they can't be taken out easily...
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they can actually, they are just surface mount chips, i used to work for a company doing component level repair on electronic devices... and removing a surface mount chip is quit simple with the right tools
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they can actually, they are just surface mount chips, i used to work for a company doing component level repair on electronic devices... and removing a surface mount chip is quit simple with the right tools
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I see... I am just thinking that these chips might be BGA chips, and hence can't be desoldered easily...
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I see... I am just thinking that these chips might be BGA array chips, and hence can't be desoldered easily...
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didnt think of that, you might have a point there
The problem is that __s(tupid) just rushes in and doesn't read anything before flashing 'til the cows come home.
One clean guide. Thanks very much for this.
I am having a similar problem, had upgrades IPL/SPL to 3.08 and tried to load faria latest without success. tried to get the g3 8125 back to 1.xx using winbutton and lokiwiz but ende up with ipl 1.05 and spl 3.08. tried to use t-mobile 2.26 and the cingular oem and recieve an error saying i need to upgrade the nk.nbf. I am rnning out of ideas.
Thanks in advance for any help
Steve
Goibnui said:
I am having a similar problem, had upgrades IPL/SPL to 3.08 and tried to load faria latest without success. tried to get the g3 8125 back to 1.xx using winbutton and lokiwiz but ende up with ipl 1.05 and spl 3.08. tried to use t-mobile 2.26 and the cingular oem and recieve an error saying i need to upgrade the nk.nbf. I am rnning out of ideas.
Thanks in advance for any help
Steve
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I think ur phone is still not unlocked,download WST Tool from the link below and check if it is CID unlocked,if not ,go through the unlocking method again:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329170
ur IPL1.5 & SPL 3.08,
keep on trying flashing button rom 1.05 a couple of more times u'll get both 1.05 or u may try this rom,it might do the trick:-
Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102
but personally, i believe ur phone is not cid unlocked,check it out
As a follow up to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295915#7
My wizard is G3 and has IPL: 1.01 and SPL: 2.26.
I've seen many people here experienced and posting comments that WM6 Crossbow is "faster and stable" than wm5 and other roms.
At first i cant belive why people say that, because in my case, once i flashed crossbow i always experiencing lockups. Had almost 6x force soft reset because of system not responding.. And Its too slow!.. i cant imagine why other people saying its fast and stable.. Ive used Underground and MostBeautiful crossbow edition but still same result..
I called up may friend which also have a wizard and told him to come here in my house and ill upgrade your wizard to crossbow..
My friend wizard is G3 device and IPL: 2.26 and SPL 2.26 (mine is just 1.01 and 2.26)
when we are done flashing.. ive seen big differences..
indeed!.. WM6 is more stable and faster for his wizard..
Its because his wizard has a newer version of IPL and SPL..
I soon rush to unlock my CID then upgrade my old IPL/SPL to newer 2.26 IPL/SPL
and now i can also say that WM6 CROSSBOW IS MORE STABLE AND FASTER..
no more lockups (maybe less). stable and wow!..
Conclusion:
we have proven that upgrading IPL/SPL version affects the device performance..
Latest IPL/SPL version: 3.08"
question before i tke the plung
can you try 2.25 and 2.26 to see if thier are any diffrences
i recommend you to upgrade to 2.26, its the latest..
As it has been said a lot of time ago, ipl/spl v.1.xx are not allowed for newer versions of os and might cause conflicts...
Also i guessed you had a cid-locked device?!
It's a big luck that you didn't get a brick ignoring this information.
Its because at first i have 2.26 SPL. with that latest SPL even if you have an older IPL you cant brick you device.
I tried flashing Crossbow in my device after ive downgraded my SPL to 1.01, and the result is temporary brick..
temporary because i know how to revive it..
Could anyone post a link to a firmware with version 2.26 of IPL & SPL?
Its an official ROM from t-mobile..
go grab it on their official site..
good luck!
Duh!!!!
I guess someone felt they needed to pass that tidbit of knowledge along ...
.... and people wonder why I drink ...
While this has been stated too, I'll state it in this thread... When you decide to upgrade to a knew ROM, reflash the stable 2.26 (or whatever) version. Yeah it takes extra time but it gives you a clean base.
I was running Faria's 3.3 and it was fantastic. Decided to jump to WM6 Most Beautiful Edition and just loaded that ROM. I had all sorts of problems with stuff. Decided to go back to Faria, but reflashed TMobile 2.26. It hit me I didn't do that before, so I put WM6 MBE back on and its now stable and I don't see all the issues I had before (contact database screwed up, issues with ActiveSync, etc). YMMV, but this taught me to lay a clean base on before moving to a new ROM.
Best advise in all of this? Read and follow (EVERY SINGLE STEP) in Dr. P's thread on CID Unlocking. Its proven, and it works!
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Its an official ROM from t-mobile..
go grab it on their official site..
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no chance without a valid tmo phone number.
got one? ;-)
You dont need any valid t-mobile number..
Ok here's the link..
http://www.t-mobileapps.com/downloadcenter/Software_List.cfm?selDevice=24
It's also in my tutorial (where I specifically say to upgrade IPL AND SPL to 2.26....
sheesh!
Lets reinvent the wheel, no?
.... sometimes this place drives me to drink.... luckily it's a very short drive...
Thanks!
First the link didn't work and redirected me to the phone shop.
Tried the one from the unlock thread, too...
Finally got it now ;-)
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Conclusion:
we have proven that upgrading IPL/SPL version affects the device performance..
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IMHO (having tested about every IPL/SPL out there) the only thing you've proven is that 1.x IPL and 2.x SPL (or viceversa) can't live together.
If your phone is CID unlocked, it is STRONGLY SUGGESTED to use 2.x IPL and SPL (preferably the same version for both).
Bye
I dont think it should be STRONGLY SUGGESTED. It should be mandatory that both your IPL and SPL match. People seriously need to read well and see that it says if you get 1.xx and 2.xx flash phone again till both are 2.xx. so simple. "Just set it, and forget it". hahaha. just wanted to use that line. but anyways so simple and thorough reading should get you by my friend. and yes i use this as an excuse to go drink also ;-)
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No, unlocking CID in G4 only brings you the possibility to use flash through RUU while nk.nbf does NOT contain IPL and SPL files (or IPL and SPL for G4).
Flashing with G3 RUU is certainly still going to brick.
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I wasn't aware that IPL's and SPL's were different for G3's and G4's although I could be wrong there. If you have an IPL/SPL of 2.2x or above I don't believe there's much of an advantage to upgrading any higher at this point in time. The most you may gain is maybe your phone booting a couple of seconds faster. You're probably better off sticking with what you have already, especially with a G4.
fordracerguy said:
Okay thanks. Is IPL/SPL 3.08 for G3 or G4? Thats what i'd like to try. When you say Flashing a G3 IPL/SPL, do you mean the 1.x versions?
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No, don't even try that, it's obviously for G3 only.
xeno1 is correct, by upgrading IPL from 2.2x to 3.08 only gains a few seconds boot time faster, nothing else.
fordracerguy you better don't think of upgrading IPL, it is not really needed to.
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No, unlocking CID in G4 only brings you the possibility to use flash through RUU while nk.nbf does NOT contain IPL and SPL files (or IPL and SPL for G4).
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Unless i understood it wrong that information isn't correct! CID unlocked devices can flash complete/full nk.nbf files (as long as they have the respective Gx bootloaders)
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xeno1 is correct, by upgrading IPL from 2.2x to 3.08 only gains a few seconds boot time faster, nothing else.
fordracerguy you better don't think of upgrading IPL, it is not really needed to.
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A lot of people are having trouble with downgrading from SPL 3.08 which appears to be protected against it.
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Unless i understood it wrong that information isn't correct! CID unlocked devices can flash complete/full nk.nbf files (as long as they have the respective Gx bootloaders)
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Yes, you are right, but how many RUU here have IPL and SPL for G4? I don't think there are any except official ROM for G4
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A lot of people are having trouble with downgrading from SPL 3.08 which appears to be protected against it.
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I think that situation mostly appear to people that didn't unlock their Wizard before upgrading. Unlocked Wizard should downgrade without any difficulties.
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Yes, you are right, but how many RUU here have IPL and SPL for G4? I don't think there are any except official ROM for G4.
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You're right too. I can remember only one, the 2.26 ROM from Molski
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I think that situation mostly appear to people that didn't unlock their Wizard before upgrading. Unlocked Wizard should downgrade without any difficulties.
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hmmm. Unless the IPL/SPL 3.08 is a NoID how to flash it without unlocking?
IPL and SPL can be easily upgraded with a RUU that is NoID (Note: NoID is controlled by RUU, not nbf)
So the RUU exists here is mostly NoID, and flashing a Complete ROM with IPL, SPL and OS to a locked G3 will upgrade IPL and SPL, but not OS (Instead OS version in boot changes, but actually it is not, or even just hangs in boot screen)
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Unless the IPL/SPL 3.08 is a NoID how to flash it without unlocking?
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Don't think so. I had no problem downgrading. I flashed MFrazz's rom, it got stuck and Shelltools crashed, got the bootloader screen and flashed the original Cingular rom and I was back to 2.25. Then just reflashed MFrazz's rom with the RUU and then reflashed IPL/SPL 3.08
Can anyone please help with my brick ? ? ?
I tried to go to WM6 by unlocking the CID and the phone - so far so good. Read that i needed IPL/SPL 2.xx or higher so set off to search. Found IPL/SPL 3.08 so installed those to my phone. Then tried to upgrade to the WM6 official rom found on these very pages. Now every time i flash i get update error 302 at 99%.
Im almost sure its the IPL/SPL but i have nothing to backtrack to and not a lot to back this theory up as im still a newbie in the ROM area. My original versions were 1.02 each as i have a G3 O2 XDA Mini ( wizard )
im really stumped and phoneless at mo so ANY help would be grateful for.
Thanks
Andy
you say with the wm6 oficcial there is not a official rom for wizard tellme what rom do you used
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Can anyone please help with my brick ? ? ?
I tried to go to WM6 by unlocking the CID and the phone - so far so good. Read that i needed IPL/SPL 2.xx or higher so set off to search. Found IPL/SPL 3.08 so installed those to my phone. Then tried to upgrade to the WM6 official rom found on these very pages. Now every time i flash i get update error 302 at 99%.
Im almost sure its the IPL/SPL but i have nothing to backtrack to and not a lot to back this theory up as im still a newbie in the ROM area. My original versions were 1.02 each as i have a G3 O2 XDA Mini ( wizard )
im really stumped and phoneless at mo so ANY help would be grateful for.
Thanks
Andy
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I bet you went from 1.02 to 3.08 without stopping at 2.xx
Maybe that's the cause?
but he says than he flashed with the oficcial rom there is no oficcial are agree
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the quick replies.. I used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310954
( about quarter way down it says official download site for WM6.0.0)
Mestrini - Yes i went straight from 1.02 to 3.08 coz i cannot find the V2.xx IPL/SPL files but i have found the updater solely for the IPL/SPL to 3.08 which is what i used.
is that any use ??
flash your phone with the tmobile 2.26, that should correct your issue. It will also give you the 2.26 version of spl/ipl
ok if you had a cid unlocked device search in the forum for the t-mo 2.26 ipl/spl after you can update for the rom as you tell
en joy it
Thanks for the advice guys, ive tried several different roms and i have a consistent problem where it will not let me change the rom as ( i think ) my SPL version is still 3.08 and every ROM bombs out with "this is an upgrade only"
help me downgrade my IPL/SPL back to 1.02 pleaseeeee
cheers.
Andy
jb007jb
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Default Do Not Upgrade To 3.08 !!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi,
i have T-Mobile MDA and Im stuck with spl 3.08
I did everything.......... and I mean EVERYTHING and nothing helps me bring back my MDA to the original T-mobile software or downgrading the SPL.
1. Downgrading my IPL to 1.01 (using button rom)
2. Unlocking CID with lokiwiz (successfully)
3. Running button rom again
The SPL still stays 3.08 after doing the above...
If there is another way to downgrade the SPL 3.08, please let me know. I really need the T-mobile original rom version.
Thanks so much.
IPL 1.01
SPL 3.08
GSM 01.12.10
OS 1.5.4.2
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I see jb007jb has exactly the same prob i do. i have done everything he has and am still in the same situation - IPL 1.02 & SPL 3.08?
dont suppose anyone can cook up and IPL/SPL downgrader like the one i used to upgrade to 3.08 can they coz with SPL3.08 i cant downgrade ROMS coz i keep being told i need to acquire a newer ROM for my device
Thanking everyone who has taken the time to contribute
Andy. ( looking hopefully around too ;o) )
AndyG said:
I see jb007jb has exactly the same prob i do. i have done everything he has and am still in the same situation - IPL 1.02 & SPL 3.08?
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Thats your problem, reflash the 1.02 rom again, both IPL and SPL have to be the same.
hey nottoosmart
i know... i need to find a way to drop the SPL back to 1.02 or thereabouts. i cant flash back to the T-Moblie 2.26 ROM coz it says my SPL is too high. i upgraded my IPL and SPL using a rom updater now whatever i try i cannot drop the SPL version.
AndyG said:
I see jb007jb has exactly the same prob i do. i have done everything he has and am still in the same situation - IPL 1.02 & SPL 3.08?
dont suppose anyone can cook up and IPL/SPL downgrader like the one i used to upgrade to 3.08 can they coz with SPL3.08 i cant downgrade ROMS coz i keep being told i need to acquire a newer ROM for my device
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Andy. ( looking hopefully around too ;o) )
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Maybe, just maybe, the O2 ROM may help you. Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1379884&postcount=2 That post is from vippie - so you know that you can rely on it!
kernelguy
I am looking to upgrade the IPL / SPL from version 2.16 to 3.08. Can I go directly to the 3.08 or do I need to upgrade to v2.21 first.
My reasons for doing this are because I recently was sent a SIM card upgrade (Orange contract, HTC Wizard is an unlocked MDA Vario running Faria's WM6) and I am unable to send SMS messages from the phone or access the CALL DIVERT / FORWARDING options. When I attempt to send a message or access CALL DIVERT I get the error message "The phone is busy, try again later".
Do you think upgrading the IPL/SPL will resolve this?
waster656
AFAIK, IPL/SPL should not affect the way the OS or software behaves. I am not aware of any major benefit in going from a 2.x IPL/SPL to 3.08
kernelguy
kernelguy said:
AFAIK, IPL/SPL should not affect the way the OS or software behaves. I am not aware of any major benefit in going from a 2.x IPL/SPL to 3.08
kernelguy
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I subscribe to this opinion... I never went above 2.26