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Downgradeing HTC Wizard

Hi,
I've installed the latest AKU 3.2 Version on my Wizard.
Now i've wanted to downgrade to AKU 2.0 (with the original Loader Provided from "Vario_AKU2.0_05-2006.exe") and the tool tells me it is not possible. Is there a way to make it run?
Thanks a lot

It looks like nobody has an idea how to downgrade from SPL2.xx en that sucks! noboby warns about it when supplying new ROMS..
I have the same problem with a TMobile Vario that needs to be flashed to stock ROM\IPL\SPL..
I've found a way to do it but its for the HTC Thyfoon and might not work with the Wizard..

Nobody warns ??????????????????????????
Gramma told me that if I don't have something nice to say to keep quiet...
Maybe if you downgrade to a 1.xx ROM first you can then go back to your AKU 2.
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Good luck.

mforce said:
It looks like nobody has an idea how to downgrade from SPL2.xx en that sucks! noboby warns about it when supplying new ROMS..
I have the same problem with a TMobile Vario that needs to be flashed to stock ROM\IPL\SPL..
I've found a way to do it but its for the HTC Thyfoon and might not work with the Wizard..
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There are tons of threads on this issue already... maybe if you are hardworking enough to search for it yourself, you won't even have that problem at all... warnings are placed everywhere... please read before you even proceed to upgrade your rom...

Dr Puttingham said:
Gramma told me that if I don't have something nice to say to keep quiet...
Maybe if you downgrade to a 1.xx ROM first you can then go back to your AKU 2.
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Good luck.
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Already tried that, not working.. btw wise gramma
vseehua said:
There are tons of threads on this issue already... maybe if you are hardworking enough to search for it yourself, you won't even have that problem at all... warnings are placed everywhere... please read before you even proceed to upgrade your rom...
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I've searched for hours the two solutions Boots 1.05 end Cingular 1.8 do not work but if you are so sure their is an solution ill keep searching
Ofcource I know about warnings but ive NEVER seen an warning about SPL not being able to downgrade..

Possible solution
A German mate told me that there is a solution
Try to load the Qtec Custom Rom from ...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
.. and Flash it to your Wizard. After that is should be possible to load older Roms without any problems.
I did not have tested it... (Please tell me if its works or not).

mforce said:
Already tried that, not working.. btw wise gramma
I've searched for hours the two solutions Boots 1.05 end Cingular 1.8 do not work but if you are so sure their is an solution ill keep searching
Ofcource I know about warnings but ive NEVER seen an warning about SPL not being able to downgrade..
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If you have a G3 device you can downgrade your IPL/SPL. I've done it my Cingular 8125 and it's 3 replacement PDA's numerous times. In addition I've downgraded at least 20 phones to 1.05 so's I could unlock and then upgrade. And then done it again. If you follow faria's instructions that is.... Now I HAVE had to flash the 1.05 twice to get the SPL down to 1.05. Humor us huh?
Note: I realize that Faria says that it doesn't work above 2.21 but I have performed this procedure on at least a dozen "out of the box" Cingular 2.25's. Downgrade to 1.05. Extract lokiwiz to the root of your C drive. Copy enablerapi.cab to your device (I know that you've unlocked your device, just indulge me please ) Execute enablerapi.cab from your PDA. get to a Dos prompt and run lokiwiz from the C prompt. Unlock CID and SIM. It WILL reboot each time. If your IPL / SPL still show a 2.x reflash again with the 1.05.
If you do this I'll just about guarantee that it'll work
Good Luck!

Dr Puttingham said:
If you have a G3 device you can downgrade your IPL/SPL. Unlock CID and SIM. It WILL reboot each time. If your IPL / SPL still show a 2.x reflash again with the 1.05.
If you do this I'll just about guarantee that it'll work
Good Luck!
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Your garantee worked great fabulous work ! I downgraded my Dutch MDA Vario from official Tmobile Rom RUU_Prodigy_2210205_22102108_021911_TMO_NL_DUT_Ship.exe with 2.21 IPL.SPL to 1.05. Indeed needed to run WWE flashrom - did the Lockwiz2b CID unlock and ran the Flashrom WWE again and voila IPL/SPL 1.01 - OS 1.5.4.2 -GSM 1.12.10.0 - Thanks a lot!!
I owe you one ..

Hi,
i want to downgrade my 2.21 G3 Vario as well which is NLD and locked. I believe that I know all the steps neccesary and already downed the QTEK custom ROM. Can I just execute this ROM and have it install the older version on my Vario, run lokiwiz02b and upgrade again?
One part I didn't find on the forum was the need to run "WWE flashrom" again to downgrade to 1.05
What is this WWE flashrom, is it a seperate tool besides the Custom rom and if yes where do I get it?
thanks,
stefan

A2Z said:
Your garantee worked great fabulous work ! I downgraded my Dutch MDA Vario from official Tmobile Rom RUU_Prodigy_2210205_22102108_021911_TMO_NL_DUT_Ship.exe with 2.21 IPL.SPL to 1.05. Indeed needed to run WWE flashrom - did the Lockwiz2b CID unlock and ran the Flashrom WWE again and voila IPL/SPL 1.01 - OS 1.5.4.2 -GSM 1.12.10.0 - Thanks a lot!!
I owe you one ..
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Great! it works

stefan1975 said:
Hi,
i want to downgrade my 2.21 G3 Vario as well which is NLD and locked. I believe that I know all the steps neccesary and already downed the QTEK custom ROM. Can I just execute this ROM and have it install the older version on my Vario, run lokiwiz02b and upgrade again?
One part I didn't find on the forum was the need to run "WWE flashrom" again to downgrade to 1.05
What is this WWE flashrom, is it a seperate tool besides the Custom rom and if yes where do I get it?
thanks,
stefan
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This one.. (flash it 2 times!)
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe

Seppl82 said:
A German mate told me that there is a solution
Try to load the Qtec Custom Rom from ...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
.. and Flash it to your Wizard. After that is should be possible to load older Roms without any problems.
I did not have tested it... (Please tell me if its works or not).
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Does NOT work, thnx anyway

I have the same problem.
But i allready downgaded with the Custom version.
When i restart i can see. it is IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.26
Is it possilble olso downgrade the SPL (i do not exactrly know what it is)

Downgrading/Upgrading
Dr P. or anyone else,
I've seen "somewhere on this board" a description of how to flash "any rom" without having to downgrade to 1.05, it stated to change the .exe file to a .rar and then change the ruu file to one that is not looking for the current phone status. I've tried that and have not had success in doing so. IF there is infact a way to do this, could someone please provide a blow by blow scenario to accomplish it?
Thanks,
vpu2

HighVoltage said:
I have the same problem.
But i allready downgaded with the Custom version.
When i restart i can see. it is IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.26
Is it possilble olso downgrade the SPL (i do not exactrly know what it is)
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Bet you didn't run the 1.05 a second time as I stated before. I'm actually doing a brand new Cingular G3 2.25 as we speak. I downgraded to 1.05, SPL still says 2.25. Copied enablerapi to the device and executed it from the device. Extracted lokiwiz to the root of my E drive (on my new thinkpad that I'm setting up at the same time...) It rebooted twice as it's susposed to when you unlock the CID and the SIM. Ran the downgrade a second time and both IPL and SPL are 1.01, the GSM is 1.12.10.0 and the OS is 1.5.4.2.... every freak'n time I do this, probably close to two dozen Cingular 8125's. If it don't work for you I just don't know what more to tell ya....

Dr Puttingham said:
Bet you didn't run the 1.05 a second time as I stated before. I'm actually doing a brand new Cingular G3 2.25 as we speak. I downgraded to 1.05, SPL still says 2.25. Copied enablerapi to the device and executed it from the device. Extracted lokiwiz to the root of my E drive (on my new thinkpad that I'm setting up at the same time...) It rebooted twice as it's susposed to when you unlock the CID and the SIM. Ran the downgrade a second time and both IPL and SPL are 1.01, the GSM is 1.12.10.0 and the OS is 1.5.4.2.... every freak'n time I do this, probably close to two dozen Cingular 8125's. If it don't work for you I just don't know what more to tell ya....
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Hi Guys,
I tried everything but it doesn't help das anyone had another option?
Thanks

could you be any vaguer? "tried everything" is so informative. report exactly the steps you've tried please.

Dr Puttingham said:
could you be any vaguer? "tried everything" is so informative. report exactly the steps you've tried please.
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I tried everything what everybody said in this post.

Mr hokkie, please humble me and document exactly what device you own and your exact IPL/SPL/OS/GSM versions. Beacuase I just don't think that you've got in in ya to be my first failure. Show me what you got

I own a Dutch MDA Vario from T-mobile, which has a T-mobile SIM-lock. I want to remove the SIM-lock, so I tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249474&page=1. Unfortunately it returned an error, it appears I have a 2.21 ROM, so I want to downgrade the rom, which brought me to this thread.
I've downloaded the CUSTOM_RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe, and ran it. I get the first few screens (the caution-screen, the prepare-screen, the Update screen, the verify screen and the last screen). After that I get the screen where a percentage bar should start moving. My phone-screen is now divided in about four horizontal parts.
The first one is red-fading to black, and it reads RUU on the top-right, and the line below it reads IPL 2.21.0001. The last line in this part reads SPL 2.21.0001.
The second part is similar to the first, but it is green, without any text. The third part is similar to the green one, except it's blue.
The last part is smaller than the previous parts, it's plain white (about two lines high) and reads USB.
On my PC I get a screen telling me:
ERROR[300]: INVALID UPDATE TOOL
This Udate Uility cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get newer Update Utillity.
What am I doing wrong here? (BTW: I'm a computer-expert and a phone-noob)
By the way, the verify screen reads:
From:
Model ID: WIZARD
Image Version: 1.2.0.0
Language: ENGLISH
To:
Model ID: Prodigy
Image version:
Language: WWE

1.xx for IPL and 2.xx for SPL..

I'had read the thread about the radio ROM that the 2.x radio rom doest support with device with 1.x bootloader like the 1.x IPL and SPL..
My device have:
IPL 1.01
SPL 2.26
how was that?.. is my bootloader version 2 or 1?
sorry.. im new to wizard.. i just sell my himalaya and got wizard just yesterday..

ok nevermind..
i tried to flash 2.19 and 2.47 radio ROM without any problems.. means im 2.x bootloader..

If you don't fix your IPL you're going to have problems...

fixing IPL?
why?..

Because you're running 1.x IPL, that's why.
But, if it works for you, great.

i thought that all my problems are solve now regarding upgrading rom in wizard..
still have to find out how fix my IPL..
do you mean fixing is by upgrading my IPL to higher?

double_ofour said:
i thought that all my problems are solve now regarding upgrading rom in wizard..
still have to find out how fix my IPL..
do you mean fixing is by upgrading my IPL to higher?
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i had the same situation whn my wiza was cid locked. i flashed it with Button;s rom and got the same situation: mixed IPL/SPL. I made cid unlocked procedure and then flashed the rom that contained IPL/SPL for my device.

i think im getting the logic here..
i should find a rom that contain 2.xx IPL/SPL to be able to upgrde in 2.xx IPL..
better search for that..
thanks for the help..

double_ofour said:
i think im getting the logic here..
i should find a rom that contain 2.xx IPL/SPL to be able to upgrde in 2.xx IPL..
better search for that..
thanks for the help..
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I suggest the T-Mobile 2.26. In my tutorial you'll find the working link.
Good luck

Thanks Dr Puttingham..
im now getting familiar to wizard..

Some help please

I am pulling my hair out here...
I have an 8125, with the following
Sim Carrier and Rom = T-Mobile
IPL/SPL=3.08
GSM=01.12.10
OS=1.5.4.2
Rom Version=1.5.4.2 WWE
Radio Version 01.12.10
I followed the two main tutorials on how to SIM and CID unlock, got both my IPL and SPL to match, flashed in the TMo Rom and thought all was good.
Now I was poking around and see that it is not a 2.26 rom that is on there but it is a 1.5.4.2. So what do I do, I go to
http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
to get the Mobile MDA Software Version (2.26.10.2)
and when I run the file that gets downloaded, it gives me a
ERROR [296] : UPGRADE ONLY
Now, does it see that the phone is infact not an MDA and is a 8125 and does not like it?
So now from this point, (I have done my research and forum search, and RTFM many times so pleae dont blast me) what do I need to do to get the updated 2.26 rom, and eventually get up to the WM6.
I appreciate all the help, as I am seriously ready to have phone meet wall.

177media said:
I am pulling my hair out here...
I have an 8125, with the following
Sim Carrier and Rom = T-Mobile
IPL/SPL=3.08
GSM=01.12.10
OS=1.5.4.2
Rom Version=1.5.4.2 WWE
Radio Version 01.12.10
I followed the two main tutorials on how to SIM and CID unlock, got both my IPL and SPL to match, flashed in the TMo Rom and thought all was good.
Now I was poking around and see that it is not a 2.26 rom that is on there but it is a 1.5.4.2. So what do I do, I go to
http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
to get the Mobile MDA Software Version (2.26.10.2)
and when I run the file that gets downloaded, it gives me a
ERROR [296] : UPGRADE ONLY
Now, does it see that the phone is infact not an MDA and is a 8125 and does not like it?
So now from this point, (I have done my research and forum search, and RTFM many times so pleae dont blast me) what do I need to do to get the updated 2.26 rom, and eventually get up to the WM6.
I appreciate all the help, as I am seriously ready to have phone meet wall.
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You have already flashed newer bootloaders that 2.26. You have 3.08. Why do you need to go back to 2.26? IF you are CID unlocked (did you take your bootloaders down to 1.xx then run lokiwiz, and then bring them up to 3.08?) you should be able to flash your WM6 rom now. Have you tried?

Zzan said:
You have already flashed newer bootloaders that 2.26. You have 3.08. Why do you need to go back to 2.26? IF you are CID unlocked (did you take your bootloaders down to 1.xx then run lokiwiz, and then bring them up to 3.08?) you should be able to flash your WM6 rom now. Have you tried?
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I think he upgraded the IPL/SPL alone from button's 1.01 and now can't flash any ROM since 3.08 can't handle 1.5 OS.
My advise is to flash IPL/SPL 1.01 and from there flash a 2.26 but... there are a lot of people mentioning IPL 3.08 and SPL 1.xx meaning that IPL won't allow to downgrade. I think it's up to him...

my understanding is that you shouldn't be going to an ipl/spl of 3.xx unless you are flashing from an ipl/spl of 2.xx. (based on thread information from old roms of molski and faria, last days of wm5 roms).
if possible, you should try to reflash back to 1.05 (i think they were customized so you shouldn't have problems).
official t-mobile roms won't let you downgrade to my understanding...at least not from one official t-mobile to another official (3.08 --> 2.26 or 2.26 -->1.80).
so...retry to flash buttons 1.05, then move up to 2.26...and then if you really want to flash again to 3.08.

That is exactly what I figured out last night.
When I RTFM where it says EDIT STEP 17: Flash to 3.08 .......
I took that as a instad of thinking that it contained the 2.16 rom as well as the IPL/SPL upgrades.
So I went through reflashed both back down to buttons 1.05 and then reflashed back up to 2.26 and then to WM6, everything is dandy and it is all becuase of the wonderful people here. I can not say it enough. This place is the greatest! And thank you all yet again.

I'm glad you managed to save your phone. Not many these days by counting the number of "Help" threads
Can i ask you to please give something back to the forum? please check my signature and visit the "Data crashes" solution thread. Tx

Definitly will.

CID Unlock not working

Hi All,
I have not been able to unlock my Cingular 8125... to upgrade the thing to WM6.
Yip ran the lockwiz a few times... it did give me some write error though.
...
CopyFileToTFFS(unlocked.bin:0, 0, 00010000)
ERROR: ITWriteDisk - An internal error occurred.
result=80072746
Your phone is now unlocked...
My phone is a G3. I can use different sims. But I cannot CID unlock? I have used lokiwiz and awizard... what else can I do to CID unlock?
I am currently downloading your rom.I have not tried any roms as I am quite new to this. I have flashed my 8125 to - IPL1.01 SPL 3.08 gsm 01.12.10 os1.5.4.2.
I have also tried several time to downgrade to button... no joy, the spl wont go. I have upgraded to both ipl/spl3.08 and still cannot upgrade the rom.
Thanks,
SanMan

Did you read the sticky with the guide to an easy and safe unlocking by Dr. Puttingham? If you did then you should have read with more attention.
You've messed up your phone's bootloader. It's not supposed to have such different values. If you didn't unlock it before moving to SPL 3.08 you won't be doing it now as it must be 1.xx for lokiwiz and other tools to work.
Go READ threads of others in same situation as you and be sure to have a FULL battery before starting the flashing process.

great thanks for that... so since my spl and ipl are not the same I need to try to downgrade my spl to the same version of button?
Bud I have read and read and read... and now I have only posted. I see that people in my predicament look for a rom called 1.18 from cingular and apparantly that fixes the problem so I can downgrade and re-run my cid unlock. I will read through all of Dr Putting threads where I have also posted to try to resolve this. Thanks for you constructive assistance.
Kind regards,
SanMan
We were all at this point in our lives sometime.

Need rom for downgrade
hi SandfordE,
Could you please send me the link or the file that downgrade the rom to 1.xx. i have tried to looking for so much time but sill can't not. all link is dead.
please, thank you for your help

the blind leading the blind.
well the only one I have been able to get is this one, from Dr putting
http://rapidshare.com/files/18212239/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe.html
I cannot find the 1.xx cingular rom which apparantly you need if you dont follow dr p, goodies properly.
Apparantly if you goto http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/161 and register there is a pathetically slow download link for 1.8x... which should be able to change the ipl and spl to the same thing.
hope this helps you. Please dont run or upgrade anything on ure phone till both the ipl and spl are 1.x that where I made my mistake.
Being a techie I guess thats our problem always wanting to upgrade with out rtfm.
hth
San

Thank SanFordE
Downloading, then downgrade to ipl/spl 1.xx, then cidunlock then uprade to ipl/spl 2.xx then update to wm6.
Am i correct??
thanks again for your help

hi magic
yip thats exactly what I am doing, hopefully it will work, please could you post ure results. Pity bandwidth here in South Africa is so terrible else i would be able to download at home.
Thanks man,
Sanford

hi SanfordE,
why my ipl is 1.xx but the spl still 2.xx after flash sucessfully??
Thanks

Hi,
This worked for me, now i just need to flash the ipl/spl 2.xx then ready for wm6
Thanks

Maybe try to flash with button from dr p sticky... but remember before you can do anything else the like run lokiwiz, the ipl and spl need to be 1.xx
hope this helps.
s

SanfordE said:
Maybe try to flash with button from dr p sticky... but remember before you can do anything else the like run lokiwiz, the ipl and spl need to be 1.xx
hope this helps.
s
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wow, i'm impressed . You passed from asking for tutoring to giving good tips in no time. well done m8 . All you need now is to manage the successful downgrade.
Are you sure your phone is still locked? Check CID status with mtty.

Thanks for that tip
Got already will try this procedure again tonight... hopefully it works.

hi SanFordE,
now i'm on wm6. thank a lot for your support

Hi MagicEr,
How many times did you have to flash with 1.8.11
I have tried twice already and my spl is still 3.08...
Maybe downgrade to Wizard_Love 2.26? The rey the other way?
Any input is kewl...
no worries S

WM6 is lovely...
All fixed on WM6
Note to all good people, once you have flashed with 1.8.11 <-- this is only on a cingular 8125, even though the spl is 3.08, you can run your lokiwiz to CID unlock and then flash.
Many thanks to all the developers and contributors to this forum.
Sanford

SanfordE said:
All fixed on WM6
Note to all good people, once you have flashed with 1.8.11 <-- this is only on a cingular 8125, even though the spl is 3.08, you can run your lokiwiz to CID unlock and then flash.
Many thanks to all the developers and contributors to this forum.
Sanford
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hmm not sure if the SPL is really 3.08 although it shows that.
The CID block protection is applied by SPL so if lokiwiz worked it means that the SPL did downgrade
Glad you fixed it though.
cheers

Downgrade Locked G3 with 3.08 IPL/SPL

I have read the guides to unlocking and from what I see there are none that work on 3.xx SPL/IPL. I was able to downgrade the IPL but never the SPL.
I have seen several threads that say if you flash button rom (several times) it will eventually downgrade the SPL also, but all night as I worked I flashed the button ROM (about 12-15 times) and still can't downgrade the SPL from the 3.08, only IPL goes to 1.01
Tried the original Cingular ROM and it isn't accepted (I think because I have a higher SPL than the original 2.26), tried using the ShellTool, Tried SoftSPL too but none worked.
IS THERE A WAY TO DOWNGRADE THE 3.08 SPL SO THAT I CAN USE THE LOKIWIZ02 OR LOKIWIZ03. I saw a thred saying that 3.08 can't be downloaded but I also saw SEVERAL saying to just keep insisting with the Button rom that it will eventually work (but after almost 15 consecutive tries I've had it).
Any help would be GREAT.
thanks
MGF
IPL 1.01
SPL 3.08
GSM 1.12.10
OS 1.5.4.2

Button ROM doesn't work for that. I tried numerous times too. The only ROMs that work to downgrade to anything else from 3.08 are the OEM releases from either T-Mo or AT&T.
The Cingular ROM isn't accepted because it checks the OS version number. I had to try several peoples' ROMs until I found one with a low enough version number to where the Cingular ROm could flash on top of it.

Try to flash T-Mobile 2.26 to bring it down to ipl/spl 2,26 then go for button's 1.05,hope it'll do the trick.
Good luck
p.s. you can try the wizard_love_Rom also,lol

I want to downgrade my phone, too. but the original T-Mobile AKU2.0 say while reading the phones ROM-Version "only update"... so, with this no downgrade is possible.
How can i CID unlock with AKU3? I want to flash a new ROM from xda-developer as well... damn
Regards
Thomas

You could probably extract the nk.nbf and use the standard tools to flash it.
The nk.nbf can usually be found in a .tmp folder in c:\documents and settings\yourname\Local Settings\Temp

Thanx for your Hint... but which "Standard-Tool" should i use?
Sorry for this silly question, but i am new in experience with my vario

imate kjam
hello, i am new enterent on this forum and need help for, have imate kjam G3 IPL/SPL 1.xx os 1.1.9.3 device and i want to upgrade with latest WM 5 SE 3.8.2.1. Can i upgrade this OS without facing any prb i.e CID/sim locked prb??? kindly adivice to me what is the right way to upgrade my imate kjam (t-mobile) thank you.
best regards
farry

Unless you are using official kjam update, otherwise please CID unlock your G3 device first, or you will face problems.

thank u for advice, but how to CID unlock first before upgrade the rom, any tool for apply to unlock?? plz help
regards
farry