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Odd Question over Summiter's Cingular ROM

When I had flashed over to Summiter's Cingular AKU 2.3 + CF2 Test 2 package, I had let it do the upgrade and came back after the installation of the image finished with the phone rebooted.
I never got a chance to glance at the boot-up screen until just a moment ago and noticed that the IPL and SPL read as the following...
IPL: 2.24
SPL: 2.26
My phone is CID Unlocked and also SIM unlocked from the downgrade/lokwiz/upgrade/flash tutorial and in addition I do know that Summiter has not been around. I just wanted to see if anyone out there is using Summiter's ROM and noticed this.
I have just reflashed to Molski's Clean ROM and the IPL & SPL now read 2.26 for both, in fears of the phone bricking for those wondering.

What's your question?
Hi Miata. I'm not quite sure what you are asking.

I was just wondering if anyone is using Summiter's Cingular Clean ROM and if they are... Did they notice that the IPL and SPL are different?
I wouldn't want anyone else to brick their phones.

The last custom rom I used was the same Summiter rom. I went directly from that rom to Molski's 30 MB Rev 3 Rom on my CID/SIM unlocked G3 8125 with no problems.
my current numbers
IPL 2.26
SPL 2.26
GMS 02.47.11
OS 2.26.10.2
All with no problems

After upgrading to Molski's 30mb Clean ROM, my IPL and SPL fixed themselves thankfully to 2.26. Just trying to double check if I was seeing things or not, because it would be a shame for someone to brick their phone just simply because they need the Cingular settings in a custom ROM.

deathMiata said:
After upgrading to Molski's 30mb Clean ROM, my IPL and SPL fixed themselves thankfully to 2.26. Just trying to double check if I was seeing things or not, because it would be a shame for someone to brick their phone just simply because they need the Cingular settings in a custom ROM.
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If you just needed the Cingular GPRS and MMS settings you can get that in any rom... There are threads that have all of the Cingular settings integrated into CAB files.
See HERE
Page 1 has the MMS settings files, Page 3 has the GPRS/EDGE settings files

SPl/IPL 3.08 on WM5

Does IPL/SPL 3.08 on WM5 affect the performance / slow it down?

alexanderi said:
Does IPL/SPL 3.08 on WM5 affect the performance / slow it down?
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I don't think so as the IPL/SPL are instructions to launch and activate the hardware of the phone - and also to apply restrictions on their use . As everybody experienced the hard way, after SPL 2.x CID unlocking become unavailable (for free) and, in some cases i don't know exactly, the SPL downgrade also became unavailable.
So who knows what changes they applied on this new SPL version???
I think it's a 'find it yourself' situation
cheers

Some help please

I am pulling my hair out here...
I have an 8125, with the following
Sim Carrier and Rom = T-Mobile
IPL/SPL=3.08
GSM=01.12.10
OS=1.5.4.2
Rom Version=1.5.4.2 WWE
Radio Version 01.12.10
I followed the two main tutorials on how to SIM and CID unlock, got both my IPL and SPL to match, flashed in the TMo Rom and thought all was good.
Now I was poking around and see that it is not a 2.26 rom that is on there but it is a 1.5.4.2. So what do I do, I go to
http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
to get the Mobile MDA Software Version (2.26.10.2)
and when I run the file that gets downloaded, it gives me a
ERROR [296] : UPGRADE ONLY
Now, does it see that the phone is infact not an MDA and is a 8125 and does not like it?
So now from this point, (I have done my research and forum search, and RTFM many times so pleae dont blast me) what do I need to do to get the updated 2.26 rom, and eventually get up to the WM6.
I appreciate all the help, as I am seriously ready to have phone meet wall.

177media said:
I am pulling my hair out here...
I have an 8125, with the following
Sim Carrier and Rom = T-Mobile
IPL/SPL=3.08
GSM=01.12.10
OS=1.5.4.2
Rom Version=1.5.4.2 WWE
Radio Version 01.12.10
I followed the two main tutorials on how to SIM and CID unlock, got both my IPL and SPL to match, flashed in the TMo Rom and thought all was good.
Now I was poking around and see that it is not a 2.26 rom that is on there but it is a 1.5.4.2. So what do I do, I go to
http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
to get the Mobile MDA Software Version (2.26.10.2)
and when I run the file that gets downloaded, it gives me a
ERROR [296] : UPGRADE ONLY
Now, does it see that the phone is infact not an MDA and is a 8125 and does not like it?
So now from this point, (I have done my research and forum search, and RTFM many times so pleae dont blast me) what do I need to do to get the updated 2.26 rom, and eventually get up to the WM6.
I appreciate all the help, as I am seriously ready to have phone meet wall.
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You have already flashed newer bootloaders that 2.26. You have 3.08. Why do you need to go back to 2.26? IF you are CID unlocked (did you take your bootloaders down to 1.xx then run lokiwiz, and then bring them up to 3.08?) you should be able to flash your WM6 rom now. Have you tried?

Zzan said:
You have already flashed newer bootloaders that 2.26. You have 3.08. Why do you need to go back to 2.26? IF you are CID unlocked (did you take your bootloaders down to 1.xx then run lokiwiz, and then bring them up to 3.08?) you should be able to flash your WM6 rom now. Have you tried?
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I think he upgraded the IPL/SPL alone from button's 1.01 and now can't flash any ROM since 3.08 can't handle 1.5 OS.
My advise is to flash IPL/SPL 1.01 and from there flash a 2.26 but... there are a lot of people mentioning IPL 3.08 and SPL 1.xx meaning that IPL won't allow to downgrade. I think it's up to him...

my understanding is that you shouldn't be going to an ipl/spl of 3.xx unless you are flashing from an ipl/spl of 2.xx. (based on thread information from old roms of molski and faria, last days of wm5 roms).
if possible, you should try to reflash back to 1.05 (i think they were customized so you shouldn't have problems).
official t-mobile roms won't let you downgrade to my understanding...at least not from one official t-mobile to another official (3.08 --> 2.26 or 2.26 -->1.80).
so...retry to flash buttons 1.05, then move up to 2.26...and then if you really want to flash again to 3.08.

That is exactly what I figured out last night.
When I RTFM where it says EDIT STEP 17: Flash to 3.08 .......
I took that as a instad of thinking that it contained the 2.16 rom as well as the IPL/SPL upgrades.
So I went through reflashed both back down to buttons 1.05 and then reflashed back up to 2.26 and then to WM6, everything is dandy and it is all becuase of the wonderful people here. I can not say it enough. This place is the greatest! And thank you all yet again.

I'm glad you managed to save your phone. Not many these days by counting the number of "Help" threads
Can i ask you to please give something back to the forum? please check my signature and visit the "Data crashes" solution thread. Tx

Definitly will.

Downgrade Locked G3 with 3.08 IPL/SPL

I have read the guides to unlocking and from what I see there are none that work on 3.xx SPL/IPL. I was able to downgrade the IPL but never the SPL.
I have seen several threads that say if you flash button rom (several times) it will eventually downgrade the SPL also, but all night as I worked I flashed the button ROM (about 12-15 times) and still can't downgrade the SPL from the 3.08, only IPL goes to 1.01
Tried the original Cingular ROM and it isn't accepted (I think because I have a higher SPL than the original 2.26), tried using the ShellTool, Tried SoftSPL too but none worked.
IS THERE A WAY TO DOWNGRADE THE 3.08 SPL SO THAT I CAN USE THE LOKIWIZ02 OR LOKIWIZ03. I saw a thred saying that 3.08 can't be downloaded but I also saw SEVERAL saying to just keep insisting with the Button rom that it will eventually work (but after almost 15 consecutive tries I've had it).
Any help would be GREAT.
thanks
MGF
IPL 1.01
SPL 3.08
GSM 1.12.10
OS 1.5.4.2

Button ROM doesn't work for that. I tried numerous times too. The only ROMs that work to downgrade to anything else from 3.08 are the OEM releases from either T-Mo or AT&T.
The Cingular ROM isn't accepted because it checks the OS version number. I had to try several peoples' ROMs until I found one with a low enough version number to where the Cingular ROm could flash on top of it.

Try to flash T-Mobile 2.26 to bring it down to ipl/spl 2,26 then go for button's 1.05,hope it'll do the trick.
Good luck
p.s. you can try the wizard_love_Rom also,lol

I want to downgrade my phone, too. but the original T-Mobile AKU2.0 say while reading the phones ROM-Version "only update"... so, with this no downgrade is possible.
How can i CID unlock with AKU3? I want to flash a new ROM from xda-developer as well... damn
Regards
Thomas

You could probably extract the nk.nbf and use the standard tools to flash it.
The nk.nbf can usually be found in a .tmp folder in c:\documents and settings\yourname\Local Settings\Temp

Thanx for your Hint... but which "Standard-Tool" should i use?
Sorry for this silly question, but i am new in experience with my vario

imate kjam
hello, i am new enterent on this forum and need help for, have imate kjam G3 IPL/SPL 1.xx os 1.1.9.3 device and i want to upgrade with latest WM 5 SE 3.8.2.1. Can i upgrade this OS without facing any prb i.e CID/sim locked prb??? kindly adivice to me what is the right way to upgrade my imate kjam (t-mobile) thank you.
best regards
farry

Unless you are using official kjam update, otherwise please CID unlock your G3 device first, or you will face problems.

thank u for advice, but how to CID unlock first before upgrade the rom, any tool for apply to unlock?? plz help
regards
farry

Damn - Radio ROM upgrade & now No Signal or USB (active sync)

Hi Guys, been searching but haven't really found much on this.
Right have a G3 Wizrd and loaded TNT 19209 (had ipl & spl1.06 with GSM 01.12.10)
Everything seem to be operating fine but not GPRS (settings were correct as test on another phone TMobile UK).
So decided to update the radio ROM to 2.47.11 (i think) and now unable to get any signal and even more frightening no USB connection.
I have already BRICK a phone this wk and this was to replace that one...(yeah, what a week)
Also the phone is extremely slow now too.
So advise would be greatly appreciated on this matter..
If i go to bootloader and plug in the USB it is recognised but unable to reload the radio rom from here. Do I re run the orignal ROM TNT (as i tried the onboard reinstall)
thanks

have you upgraded the bootloaders to 2.xx before uploading the TNT ROM?

madnutter said:
Hi Guys, been searching but haven't really found much on this.
Right have a G3 Wizrd and loaded TNT 19209 (had ipl & spl1.06 with GSM 01.12.10)
Everything seem to be operating fine but not GPRS (settings were correct as test on another phone TMobile UK).
So decided to update the radio ROM to 2.47.11 (i think) and now unable to get any signal and even more frightening no USB connection.
I have already BRICK a phone this wk and this was to replace that one...(yeah, what a week)
Also the phone is extremely slow now too.
So advise would be greatly appreciated on this matter..
If i go to bootloader and plug in the USB it is recognised but unable to reload the radio rom from here. Do I re run the orignal ROM TNT (as i tried the onboard reinstall)
thanks
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How come you got IPL/SPL 1.06 and running TNT 19209 ? TNT 19209 is a wm6.1 Rom,which can only be upgraded with IPL/SPL 2.xx. Did you CID unlock the phone before upgrading to TNT wm6 rom.

zabardast_1 said:
How come you got IPL/SPL 1.06 and running TNT 19209 ? TNT 19209 is a wm6.1 Rom,which can only be upgraded with IPL/SPL 2.xx. Did you CID unlock the phone before upgrading to TNT wm6 rom.
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Yes, i did Super CID unlock the phone before hand using the Wizard Service Tool.
Can i now upgrade IPL\SPL by using the tri screen or is there another way without booting into WM6.1? (I'll try taking sim out but don't think that will help)....
Any ideas?
thanks

madnutter said:
Yes, i did Super CID unlock the phone before hand using the Wizard Service Tool.
Can i now upgrade IPL\SPL by using the tri screen or is there another way without booting into WM6.1? (I'll try taking sim out but don't think that will help)....
Any ideas?
thanks
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Ok,if you say its Super CID,then you must not have upgraded to IPL/SPL 2.xx,mandatory for upgrade to wm6 thats why it shows ipl/spl 1.06 or its still not Super Cid and still on its official wm5 rom.
First,check again with WST tool to verify the CID lock/unlock status,if its still unlocked,then get it CID unlocked and upgrade to IPL/SPL 2.xx by flashing T-mobile 2.26 rom and after that upgrade to any wm6 rom.
But,if it's already CID unlocked then,YES! first flash to upgrade to IPL/SPL 2.xx and then upgrade to wm6.

zabardast_1 said:
Ok,if you say its Super CID,then you must not have upgraded to IPL/SPL 2.xx,mandatory for upgrade to wm6 thats why it shows ipl/spl 1.06 or its still not Super Cid and still on its official wm5 rom.
First,check again with WST tool to verify the CID lock/unlock status,if its still unlocked,then get it CID unlocked and upgrade to IPL/SPL 2.xx by flashing T-mobile 2.26 rom and after that upgrade to any wm6 rom.
But,if it's already CID unlocked then,YES! first flash to upgrade to IPL/SPL 2.xx and then upgrade to wm6.
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Thanks - Back and kicking now. Had to start phone in bootloader mode before i was able to flash again. Gone to TMobile 2.26. Used WST regarding CID:
CID: 11111111 (SuperCID)
Phone is already CID unlocked!
Same for SIM.
Have now loaded TNT 19209 Pro but have stuck to 2.26 for now (or should i go up a level?).
thanks

madnutter said:
Thanks - Back and kicking now. Had to start phone in bootloader mode before i was able to flash again. Gone to TMobile 2.26. Used WST regarding CID:
CID: 11111111 (SuperCID)
Phone is already CID unlocked!
Same for SIM.
Have now loaded TNT 19209 Pro but have stuck to 2.26 for now (or should i go up a level?).
thanks
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Thanks ! glade you got it back and kicking
Well,upgrading to IPL/SPL 3.08 will not give you some very phenomenal boost or changes,it'll just slightly improve the Boot up timing only,which is hardly noticeable and nothing else,where as,it also sometimes creates problems while downgrading.IPL/SPL 2.26 are the most stable Bootloaders and have proven their worth time and again,if you are happy and comfortable with 2.26,My suggestion wud be to stick with them instead of upgrading to 3.08.

IPL/SPL
zabardast_1 said:
Thanks ! glade you got it back and kicking
Well,upgrading to IPL/SPL 3.08 will not give you some very phenomenal boost or changes,it'll just slightly improve the Boot up timing only,which is hardly noticeable and nothing else,where as,it also sometimes creates problems while downgrading.IPL/SPL 2.26 are the most stable Bootloaders and have proven their worth time and again,if you are happy and comfortable with 2.26,My suggestion wud be to stick with them instead of upgrading to 3.08.
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Do you have 2.26? I would like to downgrade back to it. I upgraded to 3.08, but I don't really see any difference.

thurman said:
Do you have 2.26? I would like to downgrade back to it. I upgraded to 3.08, but I don't really see any difference.
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Well,here I wud rather suggest you to keep running 3.08,as long as,it doesn't give or pose any problem,coz downgrading from 3.08 to 2.26 sometimes doesn't go successful and creates problems.
But if you really want to downgrade to 2.26,than simply flash back the T-mobile 2.26,it'll downgrade the IPL/SPL to 2.26,after that you can again upgrade to any latest wm6 or 6.1 rom,but the IPL/SPL will remain at 2.26.