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I have been looking for this since I first started using Windows Mobile.
Unfortunately, most of the softwares out there (because they are not built into the ROM) can not reject calls without the other side knowing. I have tried every software out there, all of them are the same, the caller will hear a ring, or part of a ring, then they will get a busy signal (rejected).
I can't believe this is hard to create, I use to have it 12 years ago in my BASIC alcatel phone. When a black listed caller dials, they get nothing .. or get an out of coverage message from the operator. I believe the way it worked, is that the phone detects the caller number, BEFORE responding that it has acknowledged the call and is ringing.
I guess that is why I am saying that it is built in to the ROM as a driver or something, and not just a software.
Any Ideas, thoughts, where I can find this, anyone WILLING to make it ?
I know there are some recent roms being created that has the call blocking feature built in. i'm using one those roms, which is indicated in my signature. when u mentioned that you've tried them (call blocking applications) all, were they free and/or commercial apps, or apps created in the development/hacking section? Collectively speaking, there's alot of those types of applications floating out there, but maybe you've already tried those.
pheroah said:
I have been looking for this since I first started using Windows Mobile.
Unfortunately, most of the softwares out there (because they are not built into the ROM) can not reject calls without the other side knowing. I have tried every software out there, all of them are the same, the caller will hear a ring, or part of a ring, then they will get a busy signal (rejected).
I can't believe this is hard to create, I use to have it 12 years ago in my BASIC alcatel phone. When a black listed caller dials, they get nothing .. or get an out of coverage message from the operator. I believe the way it worked, is that the phone detects the caller number, BEFORE responding that it has acknowledged the call and is ringing.
I guess that is why I am saying that it is built in to the ROM as a driver or something, and not just a software.
Any Ideas, thoughts, where I can find this, anyone WILLING to make it ?
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1st off, change your number
if that doesn't suite your needs make a fake dial tone which states your number is not in service as your voicemail while using call firewall. after a few weeks the person will give up calling you. Callers will receive one full ring and it will go to your new fake voicemail after blocking them, which they will perceive as your phone being turned off or changed your number.
common sense now pay me.
hahahah nice one .. except the keyword here is UNDETECTABLE ... if they know i changed my number or i am blocking them, they will find me and ask for the NEW number ....
As I said before, the only device I saw that feature on, was the really old alcatel models; which didn't give you a ring, didn't give you a busy tone, probably just ignored the request coming in from the telco when it is one of the black listed numbers.
Nice try, but I would pay you, if you could do the same on windows mobile. By the way I was testing an alpha versio of the cruise before it was launched, and it actually (accidently) opened the speaker, before you actually picked up the phone call, so the other side could hear you, before you even answer.
Thus, I am sure these things are possible, if there is someone who has the knowledge, and power to play with the operator
I haven't tried anything comercial, didn't find what i was looking for. If you know of any comercial software or freeware that does what i am stating. i.e. doesn't ring before it blocks the call. That would be great
I have something called MAGICALL, and it works great. You can set it to pick up then hang up, however the best part is that the call doesnt "come through" or let the phone ring. Unless you specify the software to give you a pop up message indicating it blocked a call. I love it since it doesnt even let the phone ring, its like if you never got called.
Same thing, I already tried MagiCall and it rings once to the caller, and then disconnects. Very obvious that you are avoiding the person.
I currently use a free voicemail feature called YouMail, which has call filtering and call blocking features. You can block calls (I believe) and also create a unique voicemail greetings for those you want/trying to avoid as well. www.youmail.com
I also use magicall for this. As an action I choose 'ignore' and then the caller just hears the phoen ringing, the connection is not broken. And you, well you hear and see nothing so you are not disturbed. Is that not what you want/?
Not exactly, ignore is a nice feature if you dont' want to be disturbed, but if someone is constantly bugging you; you would like them not to even reach your phone (so they don't come next day in the office, and say I left you three missed calls, and you didn't answer me).
It would be easier if they just got a this phone is out of coverage (or something similar) from the operator; then you can always blame the operator, that they couldn't reach you ... you get my drift ?
Yeah, I get your drift. But, if you're not reachable, then I guess it's the provider that sends back a message to the caller. I don't think your phone can send that message to the caller.
Moreover in most cases if you're not reachable then the caller also gets sent to your voicemail and he can also leave a message and come to you next day asking why you didn't react to his voice messages.
So the only option would be to send a message back saying that the number doesn't exist. But again, you would have to be able to spoof a provider based message for that.
I see these options when a caller really wants to get hold of you and you don't want to react:
* drop the call after 1 ring: caller notices he gets dropped, gets pissed an comes to see you
* send message back saying you're out of coverage: caller leaves message, which you ignore, caller gets pissed and comes to see you
* send a message back saying that the number doesn't exist: caller inquires whether you changed number, finds out you didn't, gets pissed and comes to see you
* silently ignore him: caller leaves a message, which you ignore, caller gets pissed and comes to see you.
Seems you're screwed either way
Why not simply answer the call and tell the caller to f*ck off. He's bound to get pissed also but at least he'll leave you alone and you'll feel relieved.
Well for one, I don't use voice mail ... secondly, because it is the provider that sends the message, it is authentic....
So if your mobile ... somehow ... ignores the call coming from the provider ... the provider sends a message saying that the mobile is out of coverage ...
pheroah said:
hahahah nice one .. except the keyword here is UNDETECTABLE ... if they know i changed my number or i am blocking them, they will find me and ask for the NEW number ....
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Hmm, you're asking for someone to develop a piece of software because you have no spine? I know of no Java/.Net/etc API that is better than the truth. Tell the person to leave you be. The currently available call firewalls work great for when you need to be in a "Call Free Environment."
It has nothing to do with my spine; and I currently have NO ONE harasing me; but I believe that the current Call firewalls have a disadvantage, and lack a feature.
I wish there was someone in XDA-Developers who is willing to spend some time to make some adjustments to one of the ROMs to have this built in. Especially as this feature is available in historic phones that have a lot less features than a WM.
Im also using Magicall for this & its working great, the other party doen't even hear a ring. It has many other features too.
Hi,
If wanted to call my service provider today and noticed that there might be a terrible bug in the phone interface.
During the call, I got a auto response system (computer) on the other line, telling me to dial 1 for option A, dial 2 for option b etc...
Now I looked everywhere to retreive the phonepad, but I just could not find it. This would mean that I can not phone any company using an automated response system... or did I overlook an option. The manual doen not explain this.
Hope there is a solution to this.
Touch Diamond
i don't know know about your phone but for mine. during a call there's "keypad" as my left soft key.
whats your ROM version anyway?
deception83 said:
i don't know know about your phone but for mine. during a call there's "keypad" as my left soft key.
whats your ROM version anyway?
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LMAO,... so sorry
I am using the Dutch version, and the word 'Toetsenblok' (keypad) is also short for button-lock. In other words I thought this would lock the screen features.
Damn.... how stupid of me. Glad that there is not a real problem here tho
I was going through the menu, this is where the KEYPAD option was in my previous HTC phone.
read the dialed number from the reciever
Hello guys,
Can developers know what does the caller press on his keypad.
In other words,
during a call between two persons, if someone dials 3 for example, can the other guy read this number using a piece of software code?
Regards,
Hi,
I have a CDMA Touch from Telus Mobility in Canada.
The issue I am having is # rings with incoming calls.
I am using latest Jawbone Bluetooth headset, when I have an incoming call, I receive 2 rings and calls goes to voice mail.
I have called HTC Support and Telus support, they have no solution.
Is there a setting to modify the number of rings for incoming calls?
dave3211
If you're talking about the number of rings before the voicemail kicks in, yes there is a solution if your phone number is in Alberta or BC.
I dont know what Alberta or BC is...
but on my phone i do it like this...
Start->Settings->click phone->'Services(dono if it's called this, second tab)
There is a list, in that list there should be (again, dono the english word) 'forward to'
click Get Settings...
now u can set the number of secunds before it connects the call to voicemail..
with the intervals 5,10,15,20,25,30 seconds (at least with my phone provider)
hope this helps
thanks nisse thats very helpfull.
by the way forward to is call forwarding.
Excellent!!
NisseDILLIGAF said:
I dont know what Alberta or BC is...
but on my phone i do it like this...
Start->Settings->click phone->'Services(dono if it's called this, second tab)
There is a list, in that list there should be (again, dono the english word) 'forward to'
click Get Settings...
now u can set the number of secunds before it connects the call to voicemail..
with the intervals 5,10,15,20,25,30 seconds (at least with my phone provider)
hope this helps
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Been trying to sort this out for years...nice one and thanks!!
NisseDILLIGAF said:
I dont know what Alberta or BC is...
but on my phone i do it like this...
Start->Settings->click phone->'Services(dono if it's called this, second tab)
There is a list, in that list there should be (again, dono the english word) 'forward to'
click Get Settings...
now u can set the number of secunds before it connects the call to voicemail..
with the intervals 5,10,15,20,25,30 seconds (at least with my phone provider)
hope this helps
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Nice one indeed. thank you!!
3 rings delay in incoming call
Hi,
This might be due to another related issue:
There is delay of 3 rings before the diamond actually starts ringing.
i.e, after the caller has heard 3 rings, only then the diamond starts ringing, and by the time you pick the call, there will be many rings and it will go to answer phone as usual.
As soon as there is an incoming call, the light starts blinking. But there is a delay in the ringer/vibrate. You can try this out by calling from another phone.
This might be cause for your issue.
I too am having the same problem, and I'm searching for a solution. Maybe some cab which fixes the 3 rings dealy in incoming call... I'm sure there must be some such cab. Still going through the threads in the forum.
Could anybody please point us to a fix if you know...
Thks,
Sandeep
I've got the same problem on my touch pro..
It's even worse actually - I'm experimenting, but it seems like half the time the phone *never rings* when wifi is on and if it's asleep...
What the???
-mark
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2793104#post2793104
its a setting by your phone provider
yeah ive been testing the same problem with mine ringin from my nokia you hear it ringing out but the touch is still a sleap and bingo like you said 3 rings later it fires into action
ive also searched about - downloaded a new rom but still has the glitch
anyone sorted this out yet !! please post if you have a link to the cure
sandeepn81 said:
Hi,
This might be due to another related issue:
There is delay of 3 rings before the diamond actually starts ringing.
i.e, after the caller has heard 3 rings, only then the diamond starts ringing, and by the time you pick the call, there will be many rings and it will go to answer phone as usual.
As soon as there is an incoming call, the light starts blinking. But there is a delay in the ringer/vibrate. You can try this out by calling from another phone.
This might be cause for your issue.
I too am having the same problem, and I'm searching for a solution. Maybe some cab which fixes the 3 rings dealy in incoming call... I'm sure there must be some such cab. Still going through the threads in the forum.
Could anybody please point us to a fix if you know...
Thks,
Sandeep
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I think that he's referring to the 3 second delay built into most phones. On earlier devices this was fixed by changing the polling time in the phone programming. (often referred to as the Slot Cycle Index). I haven't tried it on my Diamond as I haven't noticed that much of a lag.
Since I was thinking about it, I decided to try. I changed my SCI from 2 to 0.
I did look and found that I don't have that "Forward to" option in my phone settings. Probably a provider change.
Hi Before I purchased my Kaiser i had a Sony Ericsson phone, my old phone gave me a signal when the person I was calling was handling another call. This is not happening with my Kaiser, anyone know of an application that can make this on the Kaiser or can anyone develop one? (I know it still working because I just test it with my old phone)
Thanks
Bump, Anyone?
as far as i know, if you call a person who is busy on another line, my network plays a prerecorded female voice that says:
"The number you have dialed is busy on another line. Please wait."
i had a cheap-ass motorola phone and this is what i heard. after upgrading to the kaiser, i hear the SAME THING, nothing more, nothing less.
what i mean to say is that MAYBE the sony ericsson was doing something propriatory that might not be considered a "standard feature" and therefore the kaiser (and my previous cheap-ass motorola and countless other basic bare bone phones i've used) doesn't include it.
HOWEVER, when I myself am on the phone and someone calls me, the kaiser beeps/rings/vibrates (depending on the sound profile and settings) to indicate i have a call waiting.
ASCIIker said:
as far as i know, if you call a person who is busy on another line, my network plays a prerecorded female voice that says:
"The number you have dialed is busy on another line. Please wait."
i had a cheap-ass motorola phone and this is what i heard. after upgrading to the kaiser, i hear the SAME THING, nothing more, nothing less.
what i mean to say is that MAYBE the sony ericsson was doing something propriatory that might not be considered a "standard feature" and therefore the kaiser (and my previous cheap-ass motorola and countless other basic bare bone phones i've used) doesn't include it.
HOWEVER, when I myself am on the phone and someone calls me, the kaiser beeps/rings/vibrates (depending on the sound profile and settings) to indicate i have a call waiting.
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ASCIIker I Completely understand what your saying, when you call someone that is busy on another line your carrier gives you a message saying that the caller is busy on the other line and to wait, in my carrier it doesn't happen like that, you get the same tone as if the caller its not on another call, so that's why this tools is handy at least with my carrier, In my case it goes like these, it rings and in the middle of the first ring it gives me a tone(and also shows a message saying "caller busy"), with my kaiser it doesn't do it.
Thanks for the reply
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when i call someone and that someone is on a call with another person, i should get a message saying that the person is on a call so that i'd know that he is busy with another call ..
Would appreciate if anyone can be of help here.
t_assal said:
when i call someone and that someone is on a call with another person, i should get a message saying that the person is on a call so that i'd know that he is busy with another call ..
Would appreciate if anyone can be of help here.
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Who says that you should receive a notice as to what the other person is doing when you call ?
t_assal said:
when i call someone and that someone is on a call with another person, i should get a message saying that the person is on a call so that i'd know that he is busy with another call ..
Would appreciate if anyone can be of help here.
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yes, but that doesn't have nothing to do with your phone. It's a provider's (vendor/operator) service. And only some of them support it
Actually @t_assal is correct, he meant if I call a guy who is calling someone else and this guy is activated the call waiting function, I have to get a message "waiting" and then you decide to continue disturbing him or to hang up.
Also @papo is correct that his is an operator thing.
But the problem that the operator send me back this waiting signal, and neither my iPhone nor my Nexus one shows this message, but my 10 years old Nokia show it. the same sim card used in the three phones for this test.
Which means the waiting signal which sent by the operator "maybe only Mr. t_assal's and mine" is not recognized by neither iPhone nor nexus1 (also winmo)
We need a solution
nightcap79 said:
Actually @t_assal is correct, he meant if I call a guy who is calling someone else and this guy is activated the call waiting function, I have to get a message "waiting" and the you decide to continue disturbing him or to hang up.
Also @papo is correct that his is an operator thing.
But the problem that the operator send me back this waiting signal, and neither my iPhone nor my Nexus one shows this message, but my 10 years old Nokia show it. the same sim card used in the three phones for this test.
Which means the waiting signal which sent by the operator (maybe only mine and t_assal's) is not recognized by iPhone nor nexus 1.
We need a solution
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we need to make clear about this. Just to make post short and spare my brain waves, I supposed (wrongly?) he messed it up and is referring to sms which called party get after finish his call.
That's the service I've wrote about.
It's handy if you are off, turn phone on and receive message from Bob, but it's automated and saying he tried to call and you can hit call back btn. In some countries/operators it's common.
Why would I want a message saying Bill is busy on call, 5 secs after I hear beep beep from the line? But yes that would be phone function and it's possible to handle. It's a network message, nokia is showing them by default (and can't be turned off!!!! :-S )
Make an application showing message such as this is possible and there could be one. Just what the purpose?
Though there is one useful info there. After active call ends, phone will receive network message containing code, which describes reason of ended call: red button by called, caller, lost reception (out of coverage or battery), network error, network busy
If you often make people angry over line and they hang on you, with this cell code you can have an monthly statistic of upset people or whatever you want. aah just cant see any reason to have this eather
run windows\fieldtest.exe and check it there, that's good enough.
sorry to hear ppl who thinks they know it all and says bull****..
The fact is clear, whe u call some one who has HIS call waiting service active UR phone MUST indicate U the other person call status. that's what call waiting means. usually "call on waiting.." or something, but STILL ringing and the othrer person hears some indicator beep or someting , and HE desides to take the call or not.
the bug is Iphone 3gs, 4g (and nexus aparently) don't show this message "call waiting" like ALL other phones, in my case, OMNIA II, nokia, (with the same SIM card) shows the msg.
please don't coment if u dont know and PLEASE lowercase and regular font. NOOBS.
sorry for my bad english.
sorry to hear ppl who thinks they know it all and says bullSt.. the fact is clear, whe u call some one who has HIS call waiting service active UR phone MUST indicate U the other person call status. thas what call waiting means. usually "call on waiting.." or something, but STILL ringing and the othrer person listen some indicator beep or someting and he desides to take the call or not.
the bug is Iphone 3gs, 4g (and nexus) don't show this message "call waiting" like ALL other phones, in my case, OMNIA II, (with the same SIM card) shows the msg.
please don't coment if u dont know and PLEASE lowercase and regular font. NOOBS.
satanm said:
sorry to hear ppl who thinks they know it all and says bullSt.. the fact is clear, whe u call some one who has HIS call waiting service active UR phone MUST indicate U the other person call status. thas what call waiting means. usually "call on waiting.." or something, but STILL ringing and the othrer person listen some indicator beep or someting and he desides to take the call or not.
the bug is Iphone 3gs, 4g (and nexus) don't show this message "call waiting" like ALL other phones, in my case, OMNIA II, (with the same SIM card) shows the msg.
please don't coment if u dont know and PLEASE lowercase and regular font. NOOBS.
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Who's the noob? You double posted and no this isn't a fact, I've never had a phone tell me when someone is on a call. There are some carriers that have a tone at the end of the ring to let you know they are on another call..
I think you are confusing your words, your phone should alert you (the person getting the call) that someone is calling you while on another line, it's not the other way..
Provide some info stating other wise that isn't half ass typed like the **** you are posting.
Yes it's true I had this problem since i started using PDA phones only (HTC Mda compact, then HTC Tytn 2 and the HTC HD2), I think problem only exists when using PDA phones because ''call waiting'' function is working on my all other symbian phones like (Samsung, Nokia, .... with symbian)
It might be with Windows mobile phones not sure, but don't know if there is any fixing for this specially for HTC HD2 ..
thanks