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Phantasm versus iPlay: Which Should I Get?

I just demo'd Phantasm and, boy, I was floored (and I thought you only get that feeling after listening to audiophile headphones). The reverb effect was awesome, better than ANY mp3 player on the market and rivaling/possibly beating my X-Fi's EAX effects. Most of all, I loved the crossfeed. Kudos to side channel localization. It was better than Headroom's crossfeed found on their "audiophile-quality" amps. I am sure it is better than Headroom after listening with my collection of Sennheisers.
TO GET TO THE POINT, I noticed 40th Floor also sells iPlay. From what I can tell, it has the same format support, with more settings in exchange for less "user-friendliness." Can someone tell me which would be better? I KNOW I will get my money's worth with either after listening. I just want an opinion.
PS: A link to where to purchase would be helpful.

Hi!
I am wondering about the same. I just installed both demos. They are very different. iPlay is very unintuitive, but obviously more powerful. It supports more codecs also, like OGG. I couldn't understand the library function - does it have one, or do you just get a long list of songs? There is a rename function that renames all files based on tags, so Artist gets first in the filename. Then you can sort the files based on that. I guess that that's the way they do it. But if that is the only solution, I don't think it is very satisfactory. Phantasm on the other hand has a good library function, but less features otherwise. No streaming, no recording, less codecs, no web radio. But it has a nice interface and is easy to operate with the joypad. Both sound good to me, and both are supposedly perfectly gapless if the files are coded in either LAME MP3's or in iTunes.

best mp3 player

hello there, i just bought an X1 and was trying to find the best mp3 player. the ones i found on the phone were very slow. i have an 8 gb card with 1400 songs on it.
i need a player that doesn't have a delay between changing the songs and also a search function.
i found winamp for WM; i runs smoothly but i couldn't find the jump button.
any ideas ?

there are plenty...pocket player, imulator, s2p, lcg jukebox...
imo, pocket player is better choice, but it is not free

I also recommend Pocket Player by Conduits. Not free but the best player I have seen so far.

thanks man, i found pocket player, it's nice, but it's so slow . i'm having so many problems with this thingy, i can't even find the gps menu in settings

I dont consider Pocket Player slow. Its not lightning fast, ok. But slow?
Concerning gps setting: You will find them under settings\system\external gps

Another vote for Conduits Pocket Player. Not slow at all, slides and performs as expected. I had been a satisfied user for many years and had it running on all of my WM devices with no issues, and we are talking a far less spec-ed ones than Xperia. The best part for me is that it sends music over the bluetooth to a mono headset and with tweaks can be set up as a default media player for Voice Command, which means it gets controlled through bluetooth as well. Can't beat that.

mishick said:
hello there, i just bought an X1 and was trying to find the best mp3 player. the ones i found on the phone were very slow. i have an 8 gb card with 1400 songs on it.
i need a player that doesn't have a delay between changing the songs and also a search function.
i found winamp for WM; i runs smoothly but i couldn't find the jump button.
any ideas ?
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With Pocket Player you can set up the interval between songs, even fading of one song into another.

mishick said:
thanks man, i found pocket player, it's nice, but it's so slow . i'm having so many problems with this thingy, i can't even find the gps menu in settings
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I wonder if slowness is caused by your card read rates...

yeah, my card is probably slow, but this doesn't change the fact that pocket player has a not so nice search function. after you find the desired track, it replaces the playlist and you have to go back each and every time.
have you tried that winamp version for WM ? if i could find the "jump" button. it really looks like winamp and it's veeeery fast.
ps: i'm using the same micro sd on an n95 and it works like a charm, i'll try and update the x1 to 6.5; if i'm not satisfied with the results, i'll swap it for an n97.

It's a question of configuration. In advanced settings you can choose whether to generally replace the current playlist or to enqueue an opened file. What's more it is important to choose the correct method. If you want to replace the current playlist you choose open\open file but if you'd like to enqueue you have to use open\add file. It's the same in the library. When you press on an album, artist or track in the list a menu pops up and you can choose between play (replaces current playlist) or enqueue. In the library there are settings too. There you can once again choose between different ways the program interprets gestures/ actions. So all in all what you describe is a mere question of configuration and using the correct method

i've given up. i tried saving a playlist and it freezed my phone (twice). i don't care anymore.
now...this is WINDOWS mobile, right? on my p990 i had an emulator for old nintendo games (mortal kombat, street fighter etc); is there such thing?
what other games do you know? i saw a video, someone was playing tony hawk, i'm looking for something similar with good graphics and interesting gameplay, perhaps a football game, pool, bowling...

Perhaps... the problem is with your device.... I can't say I ever had any problems of any kind running Pocket Player, saving playlists, selecting songs, scrolling through lists etc, and I used it on quite a few WM devices so far. Can't even say the performance was ever affected by the ROM or specifications. It runs equally well on 200Mhz devices and 620Mhz devices, with 64Mb RAM and 256Mb. It even runs perfectly well on LG KS20 and that little bugger has many problems. I have it on my Xperia, needless to say.

FYI: I realise that you asked for a new media player, but I thought it was worth mentioning that both the X1s built-in meda players have a highly elegant quick search as you type feature.... just start typing..

sonus said:
FYI: I realise that you asked for a new media player, but I thought it was worth mentioning that both the X1s built-in meda players have a highly elegant quick search as you type feature.... just start typing..
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if you have more than 1 song that starts with "mar" for example, it will only show you the first one
what's so elegant if it doesn't satisfy my needs? btw, where's the equalizer on these so sweet and neat "media" players? even with the players that have equalizer, the sound sucks in my car/headsets comparing to nokia.
i'm sorry to say this, i love ericsson, but i regret buying xperia.

Look it is clearly visible that you don't now how to use Pocket Player. You say: "This does not work, that is not possible". But everything you mentioned so far is possible with Pocket Player as long as you know how to use it.
Concerning your problem with playlists I cant confirm that the Xperia crashes when saving a playlist. Have you tried saving in another format?
If you don't like Pocket Player there are other solutions. Pocket Music by Pocketmind for example or Mortplayer. Both come with an equaliser but for me Pocket Player is by far the best program available.

AS for games you can get warcraft 2 and starcraft and heaps of other games.

hey, i have the best solution: throw away this crap and buy the goddamn ugly n97,
this morning i was trying to send an sms to a bunch of my friends and, surprise, i can't mark recipients, i have to select them 1 by 1. YEAH XPERIA ALL THE WAAAY

Look I found in 5 minutes by using the search function what you say is not possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354164
Search also for the keyword "power sms" as this is another solution. Maybe there is even more software available here at XDA. Generally everything is possible with Windows Mobile because there is software for almost any function you can imagine. So please either start using your brain or stop annoying us with your false statements. I don't care if you believe Xperia X1 is crap and N97 is better but stop claiming things that are just plain wrong only because you are to lazy to look for a solution yourself.

for me nitrogen is the best mp3 player for winmo.

so i have to install a third party software to send a lousy sms? if i wanna send a message to 1 guy, i use it's default app and if i wanna send one to many, the other one. i can't believe this. yes, i'm slothful, that's why i bought a smartphone
oh, btw, sometimes, it doesn't show the number that's callin' me so i have to restart it...
i have nothing against xperia or WM, i'm just being objective here, but imagine if i would have had to pay for all these extra applications? imagine if i didn't know my way around technology. i would want my SMAAARTPHONE to do everything by default; and by everything, i mean the basics.
you guys know better than me that many 3rd party apps are ****ed up and buggy and laggy, and trust me, i had more than 10 symbian phones, i know what i'm talking about. so don't you dare jump on me with "use your brain, false statements". maybe i do have a cheap micro sd, but why does the old n95 work so smooth with it a?
altae, i dare you to show me a video of you using pocket player. i want you to load a playlist with at least a couple of hundred songs, i want you to have there songs that have the same title such as come(ing) undone by placebo, korn and robbie williams. search for "undone", let me see how it shows you all 3 songs and after you select one, the playlist goes on just like "good ol' winamp". if you can do that and i can't, i swear i'll hit myself as hard as i can with the x1 in the head, in my nuts or wherever you want me to.

Complete N00b? Att and T-mobile

I have att nexus with service. If i flash a rom, do I need to change any setting to have phone functionality completely working? What is the best image out there for a noob that just needs tethering and maybe a little bit snappier n1?
Thanx in advance

The best suggestion would probably be to stay stock for a while and explore the system as it is, since it's great even completely stock.

You can try Cyanogen mods. Just make sure you read the wiki properly and do what it says. You do not have to change any settings to get the original functionality. You will lose the apps you have installed when you flash a new ROM. So back them up first.

thanx
thank you, coming from an iphone 3g, i should have done this soooo long ago. the n1 is so much faster at everything. I used to listen to a bunch of podcast, is there anything out there like itunes that i can grab all the podcasts from?
thank you

yes just install google listen, it does all audio podcasts, and even syncs them with your google account.
other podcast apps will do video if that's what you want.

what about music player?
what is everyones favorite music player?
since being stuck on apple for 2 years never new what a real phone should be. my n1 is worth every penny.
thanx

noonerealy said:
what is everyones favorite music player?
since being stuck on apple for 2 years never new what a real phone should be. my n1 is worth every penny.
thanx
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Doubletwist is a pretty nice media player (video/audio), a lot of others use cubed as their media player (both free), doggcatcher is a good podcast app (great audio and video podcasts), doggcatcher isn't free but you can refund paid apps for a little while after purchase if you dont like them

[Q] Media experience panel problems

I liked the idea of media panel since I knew about it. But now when i have it on my device and I took a closer look at it I noticed some disappointing things about it. It seams that's it's good in general but every part has some defect:
1)Pictures part(most disappointing)-it seams to zoom not the actual images but the thumbnails of them.What's that for!?Can't it load images from sd card?
2)Music part-has no equalizer(I can live with that) and can't show all songs of one artist.
3)Video part-it's almost OK but it is just a bit more laggy then WMP.
The point is-are those real problems or am I a noob and just don't know the solution?

Do you mean the the MPX Panel MR1 (without radio) or MR2 (with Radio)?
If it's MR2, absolutely yes, it occures to me.
If it's MR1 (Original ROM), I don't think so.

I had the second version of the panel, the one with the radio. I have just uninstalled it and installed MR1 version. Well...there are no differences between them, at least i haven't noticed any.The video plays a little smoother, that's all.
So there isn't any way to fix picture viewer in the panel?

I use the Media Xperiance Panel only to play high quality movies. For this purpose it is definitely much better than WMP. For everything else I use a dedicated program. It's Pocket Player for sound and XNView for pictures. The reason is the inflexibility of the Media Xperiance Panel. Like you mentioned it offers no equalizer and the picture part is crap. But to watch high quality mp4s it's great.

I just hoped that this Media panel was so useful as I thought it would be when I first heard about it. Oh well!.. I'm using other programs for multimedia too - Coreplayer for music and Resco Picture Manager for pictures, but if there weren't those defects it has, it would be a great useful program! Thanks a lot for your answers.

Actually I found a way to deal with the music player part! I've installed the HTC Audio Booster - it didn't work for me last time because i didn't rename the .mui file to my region code but now it works perfect! So now I have Media panel with equalizer!

Asked a question about picture viewer to Sony Ericsson support. They said to update my phone's software. Like it would change something even if I could(already have R3AA007)!

It's a sad thing. Almost every time you contact a support hotline (SE is no exception) you realise that you already know far more than the person on the other end of the line will ever

Yep, totally. But I suppose that's because people who you call/write to are not engineers - their job is to tell you that "you should update your phone's software and everything will be awesome!". But anyway i started using the not-zooming panel picture viewer to quickly look at my recently added pictures, it's quite useful to have all pictures in one place and not browsing through 100 directories.

I agree, the panel is definitely a good thing. It is not perfect and SE wasted some of the panels potential but it's useful nonetheless. Like I wrote before I still consider it the best solution to watch high quality movies. Far better than WMP.

Got my HD7!

Hi Everyone,
My HD7 arrived today and I have started to set it up etc. (I am in the UK)
Any questions you want to know fire them at me.
I am coming from a Galaxy S so it does seem a tad limited for now until the apps catch up.
So far I have noticed the following oddities.
OS based Issues MS need to fix
Video player does not play audio via A2DP. (music does)
Bluetooth settings lack any options for type (Headset/Stereo) settings (no real issue)
Mobile IE does not render Toodledo/slim well so not sure about other sites.
Zune software - Podcast section does not appear in market in UK have to add rss feeds manually to the app.
No custom ringtones/other sound settings
No option to connect to WIFI with hidden SSID
Only syncs main calendar from any source not any additionals.
Media HUB only remembers the location of the last video in the play list that is "paused" once you move to other items of music or other videos it forgets the place.
Other issues not OS related. (all will be fixed over time with good apps)
Lack of apps is a real issue on day one. This should change.
No TODO app with push notifications available! big issue for me.
YouTube App just loads the m.youtube.com so its really just a player engine once you pick a video from the site.
Videos get converted on the fly during sync which makes this a slow process. Should kick off the conversion as soon as you say sync to phone.
Other than these points the phone itself is really nice and fast, no lag at all.
Takes some getting used to but I am trying hard to make it all work.
Russ

No connection to hidden SSID? That sucks!
Can you categorise imported/synched videos into any album you want and rename the albums? So I could have say one video album labelled FAMILY, one labelled, FUNNY, one labelled MOVIES etc

Thanks for the input. What's your opinion of the screen coming from samoled? How is the ringer volume compared to the Samsung?
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I got mine today, just sold my Galaxy S, still have my iPhone 4.
Screen is almost as good as iPhone, nothing like Super AMOLED sadly.
Biggest issue for me is speakers are terrible.
Kev

Oh okay thanks for the info. I had an ip4 so if its close to that I am cool. I hate to hear the speakers suck. That's big issue for me. Especially since I can't add my loud ringers I usually add if speakers suck on the phones I get
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I thought the HTCs had Dolby Surround or whats it called How can they be worse than the competitors?

I may be mistaken but Dolby Sound and SRS only work when headphones are plugged in. Maybe someone can confim.

i Can confirm that both SRS and Dolby mobile work through headphones and through the speakers, when putting on Dolby does make it sound slightly louder and clearer for me!!

That's great to hear
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tboy2000 said:
No connection to hidden SSID? That sucks!
Can you categorise imported/synched videos into any album you want and rename the albums? So I could have say one video album labelled FAMILY, one labelled, FUNNY, one labelled MOVIES etc
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As far as I can make out on my Zune software I can not group videos into playlists so there does not seem to be an easy way to get it to auto sync unless you pick the ALL option.
Still messing with it though.
Russ

kevwright said:
I got mine today, just sold my Galaxy S, still have my iPhone 4.
Screen is almost as good as iPhone, nothing like Super AMOLED sadly.
Biggest issue for me is speakers are terrible.
Kev
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Agreed, the screen is nowhere as good as the Galaxy but if you have never had a Super Amoled then I dont think you will be disappointed.
Speaker volume is very low compared to my Galaxy also. I thought the grills at top and bottom were speakers but they are just for show.
The speaker is next to the camera on the back.
Russ

RussST24 said:
YouTube App just loads the m.youtube.com so its really just a player engine once you pick a video from the site.
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This is not true, without the Youtube app you can't play Youtube Videos from the website. The App contains necessary Code/Drivers which allow you to play Youtube videos whethere going through the App/Link or from IE.
Also the Front Mounted Speakers are still being questioned. HTC seemed to have advertised the phone to Reviewers/Critics as having "Front Mounted Stereo Speakers" however atm they are either not used (software update required from M$) or HTC were lying. I'd like to hope it's teh first one but you never know
The Screen on mine is brilliant when the brightness is set to High. When on Auto it seems to keep screen brightness on Medium which is a bit rubbish and doesn't show it off very well. Get it on High and you'll notice the difference. It's (very) hardly noticable from the HTC Desire's when they're side by side, but the fact it's massive far outways that.

Thats was my point about it being just a player engine (codecs etc). I was comparing what I know from Android for a youtube app and was suprised it was not a full in app experience.
But being able to play the videos at all is a big plus.
Agree on the screen, set on HIGH it looks very nice and anyone will be happy with it but I am not sure what impact the battery is going to take. Side by side with a galaxy S though you do see the difference but if you never had a super Amoled then you wont care at all.
What is a score with Low - Med - High anyway, wheres the slider for brightness. Seems like a miss that should have been easy.
Russ

Ah apologies I misread you on the YouTube thing. I've left my screen brightness on high for a few days now and I must say I haven't even noticed a difference in battery life, although tbh my battery life is terrible anyway. Why HTC chose a 1200 instead of a 1500 is beyond me.

Waiting on my new HTC HD7 arriving this afteroon, been using an HTC HD2 with hacked Android and love it apart from the bugs etc...
Have 14 days to decide weather its worth it or if i need to switch carries to the Desire HD...
Hurry up DHL!!!

Did you already try to install on your HD7 some .CABs developed for WM6 ?
There are a couple of apps (SPB Wallet, iGO8) I couldn't live without, and losing them under WM7 would be a big problem.
Thanks
S

sandrinopi said:
There are a couple of apps (SPB Wallet, iGO8) I couldn't live without, and losing them under WM7 would be a big problem.
Thanks
S
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Yes, would like to know if iGo8 works with Windows Phone 7 as well.

sandrinopi said:
Did you already try to install on your HD7 some .CABs developed for WM6 ?
There are a couple of apps (SPB Wallet, iGO8) I couldn't live without, and losing them under WM7 would be a big problem.
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1) Absolutely, positively no possible way ANY Windows Mobile apps will run on Windows Phone 7 as it exists today.
2) What is this "WM7" of which you speak?

tai4de2 said:
1) Absolutely, positively no possible way ANY Windows Mobile apps will run on Windows Phone 7 as it exists today.
2) What is this "WM7" of which you speak?
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...you mean that NO existing app running on WM6.x will run under WM7 ?
No backward compatibility ?
Apps have to be completely rewritten ?
Please tell me I'm wrong
PS WM7 = Windows Mobile 7

exactly, WP7 and WM6 are 2 different pairs of shoes. You also cannot run a Windows program on a Commodore C64 Btw. there is on Windows Mobile 7, it´s called Windows Phone 7,
cheers