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I have a new tilt and the camera seems very slow and sluggish. When I move the phone around the picture gets blurry and there is an awful delay. Any fix?
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dylanc430 said:
I have a new tilt and the camera seems very slow and sluggish. When I move the phone around the picture gets blurry and there is an awful delay. Any fix?
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same... tried all roms just to get this fixed... no luck... theres no picture i have taken that isnt blurred atleast a bit...
HTC fix it or lose a fan forever !!!
EDIT: fit it or lose 14222 fans forever
drownage said:
same... tried all roms just to get this fixed... no luck... theres no picture i have taken that isnt blurred atleast a bit...
HTC fix it or lose a fan forever !!!
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For me, I felt like Leo's latest v4 ROM had the fastest image previewing and capturing of all ROMs I've tested. To go to the thread, CLICK HERE.
you call that a camera?
drownage said:
same... tried all roms just to get this fixed... no luck... theres no picture i have taken that isnt blurred atleast a bit...
HTC fix it or lose a fan forever !!!
EDIT: fit it or lose 14222 fans forever
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i surely hope that you didnt get the kaiser so that you use it as a camera! I would give up the camera if it would make it thinner, lighter, or cheaper... even for non of the above.
HTC, please remove the camera and sliding keyboard and make the thing thinner... if not i'm sure you'll not lose anyone you weren't gonna lose once the new iphone is out with 3G, gps, and custon softs.
Ok I have some points to make here. You guys ever heard the phrase, "Jack of all Trades, Master of none"? It means the Kaiser is not the Best Phone or Camera or GPS device. But they are good enough. If you want quality Prints get a Digital SLR. Nikon with 51 Focus Points!. Yeah Baby!
Second, If you pop off the battery cover and take a picture of something, then pop it back on and take the very same picture. Compare the Two. The Plastic over the Camera clouds the pictures. I personally Broke the Plastic Away from in front of the Camera, It takes great pictures now.
I swear, Why do you guys keep dwelling on this Driver Issue. Its like this one time I touched the stove, The burner was On, I burned my hand. I now don't touch the stove when it's on. HTC has blew past some many promises of these "Magical Fix all drivers." That I now don't care for or expect the drivers.
JimmyMcGee said:
Ok I have some points to make here. You guys ever heard the phrase, "Jack of all Trades, Master of none"? It means the Kaiser is not the Best Phone or Camera or GPS device. But they are good enough. If you want quality Prints get a Digital SLR. Nikon with 51 Focus Points!. Yeah Baby!
Second, If you pop off the battery cover and take a picture of something, then pop it back on and take the very same picture. Compare the Two. The Plastic over the Camera clouds the pictures. I personally Broke the Plastic Away from in front of the Camera, It takes great pictures now.
I swear, Why do you guys keep dwelling on this Driver Issue. Its like this one time I touched the stove, The burner was On, I burned my hand. I now don't touch the stove when it's on. HTC has blew past some many promises of these "Magical Fix all drivers." That I now don't care for or expect the drivers.
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My main question is jimmy, the tilt has a camera WERE???
hahahaha
JimmyMcGee said:
Second, If you pop off the battery cover and take a picture of something, then pop it back on and take the very same picture. Compare the Two. The Plastic over the Camera clouds the pictures. I personally Broke the Plastic Away from in front of the Camera, It takes great pictures now.
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Tried it , nice tip! Next time I forget the Nikon (coopic ha) and I absolutly have to take a pic with the Kaiser, I'm taking the cover off. Picture came out 50% clearer.
Quick Solution
In order to have a faster responding camera, do the following:
Turn on your camera
Press the power button to switch the device to standby mode
wait for 5 seconds
Switch on
You will have the camera much faster
Note that you are to turn off the key lock app if you have it on in order to have this working
HOPING FOR FULL DRIVERS.....NEVER GONNA HAPPEN
AWAITING THE XPERIA
i figured out a way to make it better..u need light tho otherwise it will be really dark..if its laggy leave ur camera on and press power wait for a couple secons and press power again..it should be black for a while and then ur camera will come up but it will be very dark..tell me if this helps
I have an easier fix. Turn off your wifi before taking pictures. If you haven't noticed, clicking the power button to go into standby suspends the wifi. When you click the power button again you will have about 3-5 solid seconds of faster camera until the wifi turns back on then it'll be lagging again as usual. So just turn off the wifi then take pictures. If you have a AT&T Tilt you can easily turn off the wifi by hitting Fn then Right arrow on your keyboard, then do the same thing again when you want to turn it back on.
Doing that and also doing what Jimmy said in this post
JimmyMcGee said:
Second, If you pop off the battery cover and take a picture of something, then pop it back on and take the very same picture. Compare the Two. The Plastic over the Camera clouds the pictures. I personally Broke the Plastic Away from in front of the Camera, It takes great pictures now.
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Will give you some amazing picture quality compared to before.
Be happy you have a camera on your phone. I remember when all there was were big block bag phones
I have noticed each phone I have had is different based on the lighting conditions. Some cameras do better indoors some outdoors. Its all based on the lighting conditions(incadescent, flourescent). The kaiser cameras work best in natural light. Outdoors the camera will hardly blur, take it indoors and it blurs really bad.
thanks fot the tip
I have triying it and it was very usefull, it really works
fireblade63 said:
In order to have a faster responding camera, do the following:
Turn on your camera
Press the power button to switch the device to standby mode
wait for 5 seconds
Switch on
You will have the camera much faster
Note that you are to turn off the key lock app if you have it on in order to have this working
HOPING FOR FULL DRIVERS.....NEVER GONNA HAPPEN
AWAITING THE XPERIA
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I can't believe it. This workaround really works!
thanks for the advice
Has any one found a compatible 6.1 camera driver? I have been searching and i cannot seem to find one.The Nadavi_HTC_Camera_5_0_4_2915_00 driver i had on 6.0 no longer works.
bucketz said:
Has any one found a compatible 6.1 camera driver? I have been searching and i cannot seem to find one.The Nadavi_HTC_Camera_5_0_4_2915_00 driver i had on 6.0 no longer works.
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What do you need a camera driver for?!
Isn't that driver part of the WM6.1 update?
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Dave
it still seems a little slug-ish, especially when is little lighting. I do a lot of video, so i assumed the 6.1 update would have fixed it, but it still seems the same as before.
bucketz said:
it still seems a little slug-ish, especially when is little lighting. I do a lot of video, so i assumed the 6.1 update would have fixed it, but it still seems the same as before.
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The Kaiser camera is Very Bad in low light. I was embarrased by an N95 owner when filming my son playing at home.
The drivers made some improvment, but not enought IMO.
Dave
Well I heard that its not a driver issue but more of the CMOS that came with it... Correct me if im wrong (and I hope I am) as that's one of the main points why I bought this phone instead of an N95
I think there is a bug in the camera software meaning its pretty useless in low light. Anyway I came across a workaround that works ok for me. Switch cam on in in low light. Frames per second (FPS) will be pretty low at about 2 to 3 and everything will be blurry. Right hold hand in front of lense (with cam still on) so that everything is black. Switch off phone using power button (brief tap - don't power down completely). Wait a second and with hand still in front of the lense so it is completely covered press power button on again, wait a second or two then remove your hand and hey presto FPS will be about 18.
Try it out
Cheers
Barney
Barneyabz said:
I think there is a bug in the camera software meaning its pretty useless in low light. Anyway I came across a workaround that works ok for me. Switch cam on in in low light. Frames per second (FPS) will be pretty low at about 2 to 3 and everything will be blurry. Right hold hand in front of lense (with cam still on) so that everything is black. Switch off phone using power button (brief tap - don't power down completely). Wait a second and with hand still in front of the lense so it is completely covered press power button on again, wait a second or two then remove your hand and hey presto FPS will be about 18.
Try it out
Cheers
Barney
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lmao, what a fix!! that actually works. thx barney
Lol, I came across the fix in another post some time ago (can't take credit for it) - you would think that there would be a software fix for this! Guess HTC aren't interested - anyway enjoy
cheers
Barney
Barneyabz said:
I think there is a bug in the camera software meaning its pretty useless in low light. Anyway I came across a workaround that works ok for me. Switch cam on in in low light. Frames per second (FPS) will be pretty low at about 2 to 3 and everything will be blurry. Right hold hand in front of lense (with cam still on) so that everything is black. Switch off phone using power button (brief tap - don't power down completely). Wait a second and with hand still in front of the lense so it is completely covered press power button on again, wait a second or two then remove your hand and hey presto FPS will be about 18.
Try it out
Cheers
Barney
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yeah that's what i do now, but the brightness is much darker. i guess there isn't really any way to fix it, unless some one can create a whole new camera software & driver.
I'm beginning to think its cheap camera hardware, becuz I've read that the diamond has the same problem!
Just to add my opinion, I had the same problem with the phone being slow. I used a few different roms, I've been experimenting a lot over the past month.
In the end, I've reflashed Sleuth's rom. It's absolutely perfect, fast, stable, and best of all (and with reference to this thread).... the camera suffers no lag.
Thoroughly recommended.
camera software
not only kaiser but all HTC and HTC manufactured PPC have this camera issue. i have seen wizard, tytn,tytn2, tilt, touch etc all fail on camera. My old nokia 6600 vga camera takes better pics then wy wizard
There's a software fix, but it doesn't work perfectly with the camera software in the Tilt 6.1 upgrade(no preview). I'm using it with Schap's 4.31 WM6 rom and it does a wonderful job. Try it.
http://rapidshare.com/files/141688095/TyTNII_Photo_Quality.CAB.html
Try turning the flicker adjustment to 60 Hz. That'll (possibly)increase quality as well.
Ok so I don't know how HTC can allow this type of thing to happen but the Kaiser is by far the worst phone I've used in terms of bugs.
The camera... oh the camera...
My secondary VGA camera takes a 5x clearer photo than the 3MP one.
The VGA camera has no lag or reduced fps in the viewer, yet the 3MP camera has horrible horrible lag when you press button and what seems like 3-5 fps.
This is all the same with the video...
Can somebody tell me what the ****?? Are you all having this problem also or is it just me?
Could it be my radio?
I'm using ROMeOS 4.21
Thanks... and HTC... eff you!
edit: forgot to mention I've tried editing the registry and changing the button to half press instead of full... nothing works.
I'm sorry, but this sort of thing has been discussed before.
Here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360001&highlight=Camera
Here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426101&highlight=Camera
And try searching for the Subject "Camera" in this Fourm. You'll find a few posts.
I am not going to spend another minute trolling on this issue.
Dave
Thanks Dave but I've really tried everything suggested in those thread already.
From changing the registry in HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\Captparam
to installing HTC Album and Camera (with no improvements).
Also I don't see how the first link you posted is relevant at all.
This is why I come to think it is either a screw up in my registry or my radio?
I think the camera in general is bad, I though the first link was a different thread, sorry.
If you search for Threads with the title camera in Kaiser General you will see the scale of how many people have complained about this camera. I am not happy with mine, but I also own a EOS400D, so it's not too bad
Dave
lol I see fair enough... For me I was planning to use my phone camera as my primary camera.. I really just cannot believe the VGA camera can operate at a higher quality than the 3MP..
I honestly think there is a fault in my registry..
I'll say it again.. sometimes the camera works perfect and takes a picture instantly with no FPS lag in the viewer, but most of the time it will be extremely low FPS and after I press the shutter button it will lag for 3 seconds then capture a fuzzy ****ty image.
deXtrous said:
lol I see fair enough... For me I was planning to use my phone camera as my primary camera.. I really just cannot believe the VGA camera can operate at a higher quality than the 3MP..
I honestly think there is a fault in my registry..
I'll say it again.. sometimes the camera works perfect and takes a picture instantly with no FPS lag in the viewer, but most of the time it will be extremely low FPS and after I press the shutter button it will lag for 3 seconds then capture a fuzzy ****ty image.
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Do a Hard Reset and / or try another ROM, if you really think there is something in the registry corrupt / wrong.
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Dave
DaveShaw said:
Do a Hard Reset and / or try another ROM, if you really think there is something in the registry corrupt / wrong.
Ta
Dave
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Might just do that, cheers.
deXtrous said:
lol I see fair enough... For me I was planning to use my phone camera as my primary camera..
[blah blah blah]
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You have got to be kidding.... It's convenient to have a decent camera built into the phone. But your primary camera? Ugh.
deXtrous said:
lol I see fair enough... For me I was planning to use my phone camera as my primary camera.. I really just cannot believe the VGA camera can operate at a higher quality than the 3MP..
I honestly think there is a fault in my registry..
I'll say it again.. sometimes the camera works perfect and takes a picture instantly with no FPS lag in the viewer, but most of the time it will be extremely low FPS and after I press the shutter button it will lag for 3 seconds then capture a fuzzy ****ty image.
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Have you noticed that the camera takes faster pics in lit areas and slower the darker it gets? This topic is fairly redundant. Click my Vegas link and you can see what the camera does.
Ok, so you're getting a fuzzy image, that will be due to movement when pressing the button.
To improve this slightly use the 3 second timer, that way you can line it up, press the button and hold the camera steady to get a more stable picture.
No, its not a fix for the poor hardware, but it helps a little.
Try removing the transparent cover from the rear casing - or just take pics without the rear casing. Pic quality improves no end....
deXtrous said:
Ok so I don't know how HTC can allow this type of thing to happen but the Kaiser is by far the worst phone I've used in terms of bugs.
The camera... oh the camera...
My secondary VGA camera takes a 5x clearer photo than the 3MP one.
The VGA camera has no lag or reduced fps in the viewer, yet the 3MP camera has horrible horrible lag when you press button and what seems like 3-5 fps.
This is all the same with the video...
Can somebody tell me what the ****?? Are you all having this problem also or is it just me?
Could it be my radio?
I'm using ROMeOS 4.21
Thanks... and HTC... eff you!
edit: forgot to mention I've tried editing the registry and changing the button to half press instead of full... nothing works.
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This has been discussed many times before...The camera is only usable in daylight. Even artificial light makes it really slow (bulbs) Here's why whenever you use the camera in other conditions than the daylight it switches itself into "Night Mode" and because of the lack of optimized 2D drivers the nightmode is terribly slow. Now... there's a small workaround....turn on the camera...if it's slow...press the button on the side the one that switches the screen off..press it again after about 10 seconds and you should have satisfying amount of frames in the camera app. Basically this trick forces the camera to turn off the night mode at least for a while. The only drawback is the quality of the pictures...they are darker. So if you disable the night mode through the registry you will have the camera without any lags.
Good luck
You think the Kaiser is the worst phone ever because it takes bad pictures. Wow. I think it is the best phone ever with an ok camera. I didn't buy the phone because of the camera.
wmg76 said:
You think the Kaiser is the worst phone ever because it takes bad pictures. Wow. I think it is the best phone ever with an ok camera. I didn't buy the phone because of the camera.
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Not only the camera mate, and it's my personal opinion.
The phone itself is very buggy, crashes, not very responsive..
I thank got I found this forum or else my phone would be in the trash by now..
PS. Was your post even needed?
oh, oh, oh.
Please, deXtrous, a little humility. You joined last month and go around shouting at people already?
Perhaps your phone bugging out and crashing is a result of multiple registry edits, application installs, radio/spl/rom incompatibility etc. Not necessarily of putrid quality of the phone itself. Look around this forum: there are many MANY people who are either happy with their Kaisers, or have only minor gripes. This should mean that the phone is not inherently bad, just that - maybe- it is less than perfect... but then, what IS perfect?
Ever since I switched to ROMeOS (easily half a year) I haven't had a single hang-up or bug-out. Granted, I tend to use a tried-and-tested set of applications, but hey, there are about 40-50 of them! And my Kaiser still works nice and fast..... sans the camera which still sucks... but hey, it's just an effing camera. Useful in a phone but FAR from key.
deXtrous said:
Not only the camera mate, and it's my personal opinion.
The phone itself is very buggy, crashes, not very responsive..
I thank got I found this forum or else my phone would be in the trash by now..
PS. Was your post even needed?
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You're asking a guy who's defending a kaiser, in a kaiser forum, after you rubbish the kaiser, if he needed to post. I think you should chill for a bit..
OK, enough. No need to start laying into each other.
Can a Mod close this thread? Nothing constructive can come from this.
Ta
Dave
Ha... Sorry I find this kind of funny..
It's just a phone guys, no need to take offense to anything I say about a silly phone..
It's my personal experiences with the phone. Not everyone can be happy with the product they buy but why should the unhappy ones be shunned off by their counterparts for simply voicing their opinions?
Everyone has an opinion and view on things, no need to be offended of my opinion that the kaiser is a piece of crap with **** battery life, **** camera, flimsy buttons and crap hardware (IME).
anyway,
The camera was like this even prior to any ROM swapping or registry editing, which is why I thought a new ROM might help but apparently not.
Maybe you have a bad phone, I know I don't think mine is buggy and non reponsive. Also nothing I have on mine seems to be flimsy..
Bad phone maybe?
Hi guys... i'm new in this forum and i'm a brazilian, so sorry for my bad english
I've got my tytn some weeks ago, but i have a little problem... When I take any photos with the back camera (the 3.0mp one), it always ends up VERY blurred. I've noted that before pressing half-camera button, the camera image is nice, but when i take the photo or press half button, the camera image begins to blur. So, i think this is some problem with the auto-focus feature.
A curious note is that when i take/focus photos from very close (aprox 2-5cm from the camera), doesn't show any blur at all... but more far than that it gets completely blurred. And before doing any focusing, the camera picture isn't blurred at all.
The front camera photos don't get blurred because they haven't got any auto-focus, so the pics are shot instantenously.
Anybody has any idea of how fix that blur in the back camera? or at least how to deactivate the auto-focus so i can take some pic from distance?
Oh yes, i already cleaned the lens from inside and outside.
Thank everybody for the patience, and sorry for the bad english
try taking the battery cover off and take the photo and see how it comes off, they use cheap plastic on the camera cover and it gets a film of somesort on it and causes the pics to come out blurry
neonspeed1995 said:
try taking the battery cover off and take the photo and see how it comes off, they use cheap plastic on the camera cover and it gets a film of somesort on it and causes the pics to come out blurry
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Yeah, i've tried that, but the photo still come blurred without the battery cover.
If you guys want, i can take some photos and upload them so you guys can see the blurred photos.
What ROM, or camera build are you using.
KD8DNS said:
What ROM, or camera build are you using.
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I use an original WM 6.1 rom, build 3.28.405.0 WWE from date 05/02/08
My radio is version 1.65.17.56
Just a note, this rom was flashed, my original rom was a 6.0 one with radio version 1.26.xx and rom build 1.7xxx from 2007 (i can't remember)
but even with the out of the box rom, the camera wasn't right, I think (I haven't used the camera until a little time ago)
BAD HTC autofocus
I have exactly the same problem with my Polaris Htc!! Please find a solution!!!I tried everything to resolve it but nothing worked. SOme people say it is a hardware problem, but i hope it is a software problem...
Please help me!!!
Thanks for all
Fishos
try updating your camera app to this one
Nadavi's Camera
make sure u install HTC album first or else the Camera app will show a black screen while taking pics.
Also make sure your environment is well light and hold the camera still while takings pics, HTC didnt exactly make the best camera for this phone.
i had the exact same problem with my htc kaiser.
after 1 1/2 year, i decided to send it back to t-mobile to have it replaced due to a hardware warranty issue. the knew about the problem. there seems to be something wrong with the lense/sensor the auto-fokus uses. dunno.
about 2 days later i got my replacement tilt (refurbished one), reflashed to a anryl wm6.5 rom i used before and now the picture are way better
so you might try to get yours replaced.
The point is: your autofocus does not keep its parameters while the image is shot. Try hard resetting Kaiser, then install Nadavi's patch mentioned above, add latest HTC Camera and welcome!
P.S. If you do really need a cam in your Kaiser, switch to Android. Some builds support the camera, but it is... manual. I mean, you focus with a scroller wheel: far from perfect, but in some 50 pics taken you'll be into it quite nicely.
set the camera button to take the picture immediately and not full press
So which version of Camera is best and includes the ability Auto Focus, i know there is Low FPS problems and thats a hardware thing, but i just want to know the best version of camera available, Thanks
I will respond since no one else seems interested...
Ironically, I am using the default camera app right now (4.x I believe). I tried Nadavi's 5.0.4 for several months, and it seemed faster than 4.x, but I eventually realized that auto-focus was really crippled in that version as well (half-press of the button to focus, but full press causes a re-focus before the picture is taken, which always causes me to lose the shot).
Long story short, 4.x doesn't seem to have the problem, so I decided to stick with it for now. Plus it takes pictures at a decent speed when the lighting is adequate.
Short answer... you cannot expect a Hyundai to win a Nascar race. Sure it will drive around the track, and if you want to do 500 laps with it, no problem, but it ain't ever gonna be the right tool you need to win.
The camera on this phone sucks, it has serious limitations. If you want to take a picture of a significant event, bring a stand alone camera.
I agree with the previous poster, the default camera software is about as good as you can do.
I am with you about the half press and full press problem , but i get over it by making the option of taking the photo is press half press only and it work so well.. its auto focus then take a pic with no blur at all.. i am using this ver attached. so well in TYTN II .
also now i can take photos using the front camera with it .
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I will respond since no one else seems interested...
Ironically, I am using the default camera app right now (4.x I believe). I tried Nadavi's 5.0.4 for several months, and it seemed faster than 4.x, but I eventually realized that auto-focus was really crippled in that version as well (half-press of the button to focus, but full press causes a re-focus before the picture is taken, which always causes me to lose the shot).
Long story short, 4.x doesn't seem to have the problem, so I decided to stick with it for now. Plus it takes pictures at a decent speed when the lighting is adequate.
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Press the windows button once. It's better!
giannis.epp said:
Press the windows button once. It's better!
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But not much better
boufa said:
Short answer... you cannot expect a Hyundai to win a Nascar race. Sure it will drive around the track, and if you want to do 500 laps with it, no problem, but it ain't ever gonna be the right tool you need to win.
The camera on this phone sucks, it has serious limitations. If you want to take a picture of a significant event, bring a stand alone camera.
I agree with the previous poster, the default camera software is about as good as you can do.
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I quite agree, but I need to mention that the camera on EVERY phone sucks. If you're buying a phone because of the camera, that's waste of money. You can't expect this tiny bit of lens (more than ten times smaller than the ones used in real cameras and of dubious quality) to produce anything but lousy images. The problem is not with the software, but with the CCD and the lens.
I have this phone for about 6 months and I haven't taken a single picture with it - I prefer my Pentax
hello guys..well i need some help here please..
i got a problem with my tytn 11.the camera is bugging after i flash with some xda roms.my problem is i cant use the 2nd camera.it seem the icon to change from main camera to 2nd camera suddenly disappear.so i cant use the front camera to snap pic and make v.call..sadly i doesnt know my stock roms.but i already flash my phone with some xda stock roms but it still the same.the front camera doesnt work..somebody please help mee
thank u man for you'r help