Cant go on - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

Hi people. I have updated my Wizard with wm6, and it works great for weeks. Today, i have to reinstall the rom because one error... I installed that correctly but the ppc turns on and shows: HTC IPL:2.18, SPL:2.18... And dont go on! I can access to bootloader mode, but nothing it all. What i should do?

It is possible that you didn't unlock properly before flashing.
If you CID unlocked your Wizard when IPL is 2.18, then it is NOT unlocked. Follow the unlocking stickies in this forum and use Button's 1.05 ROM to unlock again.
If you are sure that you unlocked CID in IPL 1.xx, then just start RUU in bootloader mode and everything should be fine (You may need to disable USB connection in ActiveSync for RUU through bootloader to work properly)

He can't do that. Phone doesn't go past the bootloader and is indeed CID locked and also doesn't accept any flash.
But then again, button rom might do the trick...

No, my Wizard used to be the same situation. As soon as IPL not upgraded to 3.08, there is a high possibility to flash Button's 1.05 ROM into the device without problems.

Problem solved! I downloaded a ROM from here, whitch downgraded my IPL and installed WM5.. Now im waiting for the orders of mestrini

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2.25.11.1

ok just got my wizard back from HTC who repaired the screen for 180 dollars.
Instead of a "repair" they sent me a whole new cingular 8125. Now my rom says 2.25.11.1
Is this g3 or g4.. and which rom should I downgrade to before cid unlock
Congrats, you have a new baby ?? wizard?
ctheodores said:
ok just got my wizard back from HTC who repaired the screen for 180 dollars.
Instead of a "repair" they sent me a whole new cingular 8125. Now my rom says 2.25.11.1
Is this g3 or g4.. and which rom should I downgrade to before cid unlock
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Looks like a G4 What is the IPL/SPL when you boot?
hmmm
its 2.25. I think the rom they put on there is just a new rom from htc maybe. Instead of a repair of a broken screen they sent a whole new 8125 so it must be a g3 huh?
ctheodores said:
its 2.25. I think the rom they put on there is just a new rom from htc maybe. Instead of a repair of a broken screen they sent a whole new 8125 so it must be a g3 huh?
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If the IPL/SPL is only 2.25 then it is a G3. If it was IPL/SPL 2.25.0001 then it would be a G4
ok i have another question you might be able to help me with. I am trying to cid unlock, downloaded the button rom but the spl is stuck at 2.25 and i have flashed about 10 times now, it wont go down, is there any other rom which i could use to downgrade then cid unlock
ctheodores said:
ok i have another question you might be able to help me with. I am trying to cid unlock, downloaded the button rom but the spl is stuck at 2.25 and i have flashed about 10 times now, it wont go down, is there any other rom which i could use to downgrade then cid unlock
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Try this rom to downgrade your SPL Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102
It should work and then you can continue with the CID unlock.
yea thanks thats acutally what i am doing right now I hope it works on 1st time and i dont have to do it 9 times
ok I have a question about this rom. do i put the RUU and ENTERBOOTLOADER onto the phone. how about the nbf file.
ctheodores said:
ok I have a question about this rom. do i put the RUU and ENTERBOOTLOADER onto the phone. how about the nbf file.
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no you want to extract the zip/rar file to its own folder and then just run the RUU.exe file. It will do everything else for you.
Once you flash it, update me with your results.
wow ok this is really weird. i run the update utility which looks just like the button rom, and it has the same spl and everything! I have no clue what to do I cant get the spl from 2.25
ctheodores said:
wow ok this is really weird. i run the update utility which looks just like the button rom, and it has the same spl and everything! I have no clue what to do I cant get the spl from 2.25
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Hmm... Give this a try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=265928
Its the newest version of lokiwiz that should work on a 2.xx SPL and you shouldn't have to downgrade.
Once you run lokiwiz, then use Wizard Service tools to read the CID and make sure it is unlocked.
first im gonna try to dload that rom you just gave me again,. but do u think the loiki will work with ipl-1.05 and spl 2.25
ctheodores said:
first im gonna try to dload that rom you just gave me again,. but do u think the loiki will work with ipl-1.05 and spl 2.25
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WAIT! Your IPL was changed to 1.05? If it is, your ready to use lokiwiz. The SPL does not change with that rom because the rom isn't CID unlocked yet. LOL.
Go ahead and run lokiwiz and then use the wizard service tool from my last post to read the CID and make sure it is CID unlocked.
Update me with your results and I will help you with the whole process. I've been through it before so I know what needs to be done.
ipl-1.05
spl-2.25
i dont get why both those roms are 1.05
are you sure the spl is not supposed to be changed because ive had the WST and it tells me to downgrade SPL to CID unlock.
lokiwiz 0.3 a says WITHOUT cid unlock
Well what I am trying to do is upgrade to a WM6 Rom and you have to have a spl of 1.x to do this am I correct? and also it needs to be CID unlocked, which lokiwiz 0.3a does not do... am i stuck or what
ctheodores said:
ipl-1.05
spl-2.25
i dont get why both those roms are 1.05
are you sure the spl is not supposed to be changed because ive had the WST and it tells me to downgrade SPL to CID unlock.
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Ok I see that you are confused.(No big deal TRUST ME...) I previously had a G4 and always used shelltools to flash roms and had no Idea what I was doing when I dove into this CID unlocking thing but here is step by step what you need to do.
1. Download button rom and flash to device and you will see IPL 1.05 and SPL of 2.25
2. Connect to device but do not sync. Just cancel when connecting and connect as guest.
3. Run Lokiwiz and first press U. This will SIM unlock your device and your device will soft-reset itself.
4. Repeat steps 2 and 3 only now press C instead of U. Lokiwiz will now CID unlock your device and it will soft-reset itself.
5. This time when activesync tries to connect to your device, syncronize it with your PC.
6. Install and run WST and and under CID options, click read CID. It will tell you in plain english if your device is still locked or CID unlocked.
7. If it tells you your device is CID unlocked, proceed to step 8, if not repeat steps 1-6.
8. If your device was successfully CID unlocked, download T-Mobile Official WM5 rom and flash it to your device. You will now have a strong 2.26 IPL/SPL.
9. Allow customization to finish and then the device will soft-reset itself.
10. Now flash the 3.08 IPL/SPL to your device for faster boot time.
Now your finished. Your device is now CID unlocked and has a strong IPL/SPL as a base to flash any WM6 rom you please.
Once you have done this, post results here so if it did not work, I can try to help you figure out what went wrong.
ctheodores said:
Well what I am trying to do is upgrade to a WM6 Rom and you have to have a spl of 1.x to do this am I correct? and also it needs to be CID unlocked, which lokiwiz 0.3a does not do... am i stuck or what
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Try using this version of lokiwiz instead. lokiwiz - HTC Wizard Unlocker UPDATE Version 0.2b
ok i get every single step on here except..
version 0.3a does not give me any unlock options in the DOS... i am going to try 0.2b right now

Urgent Help Regarding SPL and IPL

hi all..My MDA VARIO IPL is 1.01 and SPL is 2.26.I flashed MDA 2 times with Button Rom but no changes happend with SPL and its same.I want to upgrade my MDA to the latest Rom available with WM5.Now m stuck with my phone and dont know excatly wat to do.I downloaded the latest Rom from T-Mobile website and try to install but it gives me error i.e "249 Invalid Vendor ID ".
Plz need urgent help in this matter.Regards
You may try to unlock first, then reflash again and SPL should also stay at 1.01.
I beg to differ. When I CID Unlocked My G3 USA T-Mobile MDA, the SPL never Changed until I flashed it with the 3.08 IPL/SPL.
I just proceeded with the upgrade and everything went fine.
Umm...
That's just my experience. My Wizard was unlocked this way.
There may be many undiscovered solutions.
dharvey4651 said:
I beg to differ. When I CID Unlocked My G3 USA T-Mobile MDA, the SPL never Changed until I flashed it with the 3.08 IPL/SPL.
I just proceeded with the upgrade and everything went fine.
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How did you CID unlock? Via imei-check's? Or your bootloaders were already 1.xx?
i've installed now Button Rom but still my IPL is 1.01 and SPL is 2.26 which is same as it was before with T-mobile Rom.Anyone can guide how to downgrade my SPL.Also how to chek whether my Phone is CID unlocked now? I run lockiwiz and i think its CID unlocked now but still wana confirm.
OK..finally i got IPL and SPL same i.e 1.01.Now m going for the next step...
ahmeed80 said:
OK..finally i got IPL and SPL same i.e 1.01.Now m going for the next step...
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Use WST, is easier and safer...
mestrini said:
How did you CID unlock? Via imei-check's? Or your bootloaders were already 1.xx?
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To CID unlock my G3 USA T-Mobile MDA, I simply used the tutorial [READ FIRST] The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards and followed the instructions to the letter.
When I received my device, it was a factory shipped USA T-Mobile MDA with IPL/SPL of 2.26.
I flashed the button ROM giving me an IPL of 1.05 but leaving my SPL untouched.
I installed EnableRapi.cab and soft-reset.
I connected as a guest by canceling synchronization.
I downloaded lokiwiz and ran lokiwiz.bat and pressed U to SIM unlock my device and let it reboot itself.
I once again canceled synchronization leaving my device connected as a guest, ran lokiwiz.bat and this time pressed C to CID unlock my device and let it reboot itself.
I used WST to check to see if my device was in fact CID unlocked and it was.
This time I allowed my device to synchronize with my PC when it connected and then proceeded to flash the T-Mobile Official WM5 Rom directly after completing the unlocking process and it went smoothly.
Then I flashed the IPL/SPL set of 3.08 and that went smoothly.
Then I flashed the 2.19.11 T-Mobile UK Radio and again, that went smoothly.
After all of that was completed, I experimented with new ROMs for a while until finally settling for TNT.1437 TouchFlo using the 2.19.11 Radio and never had any problems the whole time.
Everything went so smooth that I thought about writing another tutorial that was simple and to the point describing the process that I used and detailing how to do it since all of the tutorials here are very complex and can be confusing to a noobie flashing for the first time but never got around to it.

ROM upgrade problems please help!

Hi, Ive looked around the forum and cannot find a solution to my problem. Ok, step by step here is what I did: I used the button 1.05 custom ROM, this was installed successfully. Then I used the definitive guide to unlocking the G3 wizard using the lokiwiz tool and this was successful as far as I know. I then upgraded to the t - mobile 3.08 ROM as this was recommended before upgrading to a WM6 ROM. This is where the problems began. I tried to flash Faria's WM6 crossbow rom and partway through the flash it hung and got stuck in bootloader mode. I read around the forums and tried to downgrade back to button 1.05, the tmobile 3.08 rom, and also the cingular 2.25 rom. The furthest I got was about 49% on the progress when my phone returns to the bootloader screen. My phone always seems to do one of two things: I either get a communication error "with my pc" which starts the recovery process(which never actually works) or I get error 274 which says that I am no longer connected to my pc (even though it still says "usb" on the screen of my pocket pc. I know that my battery will soon run out and I will have to buy a new one to resume trying to get my phone to work again. I ve also uninstalled active sync, re- down loaded and installed it, rebooted my computer (as was suggested) and this didnt work. Some one please help me as I am pretty new at this and cannot find this exact issue on the forums. Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!
Try to flash on another PC.
Ok I've tried to flash it on 3 different PCs and I havent been able to make it work, any other suggestions?
You have misread and misunderstood the definitive guide.You are confusing T-mobile 2.26 and IPL/SPL 3.08,its T-mobile 2.26 and not T-mobile 3.08. T-mobile 2.26 is a Rom ,an OS (Operating System) and IPL/SPL 3.08 are the latest upgrades to Bootloaders and not a rom.
Now,after downgrading with Button's Rom 1.05,your phone's IPL/SPL must have been 1.05,then you applied lokiwiz02b to SIM/CID unlock the phone,but ipl/spl must have remained 1.05 as you had Button's Rom 1.05 installed on your phone.
In order to upgrade to wm6,its required to have IPL/SPL 2.xx,so you were supposed to flash T-mobile 2.26 to get your IPL/SPL 2.26,but,instead of flashing t-mobile 2.26,you flashed IPL/SPL 3.08,so you have now IPL/SPL 3.08,correct ?
IPL/SPL 3.08 is an option to upgrade your IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) but upgrading to T-mobile 2.26 is recommended,so that you get IPL/SPL 2.xx to upgrade to wm6.There's your mistake,got my point ?
So,now try to downgrade to ipl/spl 2.xx or 1.xx,to do so,download the official carrier's rom of your phone from it's website and flash to get back to its original default status.
After that reread the guide correctly and follow the method.
Good luck
Thanks for your help, I'll try that and let you know how it turns out.
OK i downloaded the official cingular ROM 2.25 and attempted to flash it. I got about 76% done and got a communication error. I've tried to do it several times since then with no luck. However, my ipl and spl did change to 2.25. What should I do now?
Anybody have any suggestions? I'm dying here guys I would really appreciate some help, thanks
ok,get into Bootloaders (tricolor screen)check usb appear at the bottom of bootloaders,,try to get down to ipl/spl 1.xx,first try with button's rom,if it works,fine,otherwise try xda_minis_launch rom or wizard_love rom,if any of them installs,download WST tool and check the status of your phone by hitting the 'CID Action' button.It'll verify if your phone is locked or unlocked,ok,if unlocked then flash t_mobile 2.26 and if locked,run the lokiwiz02b again to unlock.
while flashing,turn off any antivirus,firewall and don't surf the net,check email or play any games.Leave the phone and pc alone.Must have a fully charged battery.Delete partnership with activesync and uncheck 'Allow usb connection' in the activesync,it helps sometimes.Try with a different usb cable or plugin usb cable in other usb input slot of the pc.I do hope,it might do the trick and work out fine.
Good luck

Help... MDA stuck in bootup

ok so after reading many many times and attempting to flash to 1.05 which worked but i was never able to upgrade. I used the shell tool to try and get XM6R5 to flash and it locked up. since then the phone now starts to boot but locks in on the button rom (from button with love) and shows
IPL 1.05
SPL 3.08
GSM 01.12.10
OS 1.5.4.2
After sitting on this bootup screen for over a minute the picture looks shaky??
So i attempted to reflash to 1.05 again and it goes all the way to 100% and tells me successful and reboots then locks up! So i try to flash back to Tmobile rom and i get a 296 error: ERROR {296} : UPGRADE ONLY This NBF file cannot be used for your PDA phone. please get new NBF file.
The usb and active sync wont work either.
I even held the comm and voice button and pushed reset and tried to format and it says format failed.
Please help, i now wish i never attempted to flash to WM6. This is a brand new replacement MDA and i figured i would attempt to upgrade it before i did anything and now it seems locked!
ok,as long as it gets stuck at the loading splash screen of button's rom,it ain't dead yet.
First,how did you get SPL 3,08 ?,did you flash the ipl/spl 3.08 before flashing the button's rom 1,05 ?
Secondly,There was no need to upgrade with 'Shell Tool',after downgrading to ipl/spl 1.xx by button's rom,you shud have used 'lokiwiz02b' to SIM/CID unlock the phone and upgraded to any wm6 Rom.Try to get the phone in bootloaders mode(Tricolor screen),if it gets there,download the official carrier's rom of your phone from its website and flash it in the bootloaders to bring the phone back to its default status.After that downgrade with button's rom 1.05 and SIM/CID unlock your phone with 'lokiwiz02b' and upgrade to wm6.
its very hard to brick it fortunatly
let us know if you succeeded , it might help others
I flashed to 1.05, then tried tmobile 2.26, once i did that i upgraded to 3.08 which made ipl/spl 3.08. I tried several times to reflash to 1.05 again and the ipl changed back but the spl stays at 3.08. I have flashed several times to 1.05 and the spl will not change from 3.08(how can i make it do this) So now that the 3.08 is stuck there the original tmobile rom wont install and it gives me a 296 error when attempted.
I have taken the battery out and gotten into bootloader on reboot however, when i flash to 1.05 or tmobile and it goes thru the cycle... once it gets to 100%(I also get the pop up that says upgrade successful and hit ok) the phone reboots and then gets stuck again in the splash screen?!?! then the screen gets shaky looking as well?
oh and i used the shell tool because everytime i downloaded the button rom the ipl only changed to 1.05 the spl would never change from 2.26 to 1.05 and i tried several times to flash. then using lokiwiz2b it would NEVER unlock the phone. Kept giving me an internal error. Maybe because the extracting of lokiwiz automatically would open the program when i downloaded in mozilla firefox? is this IE use only maybe?
So anyhow i thot shell tool would be best to use since i couldnt unlock it. Guesss not.
I wish one of you guys lived right down the street so we could do this together or maybe i just call one of you geniouses
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oh and i used the shell tool because everytime i downloaded the button rom the ipl only changed to 1.05 the spl would never change from 2.26 to 1.05 and i tried several times to flash. then using lokiwiz2b it would NEVER unlock the phone. Kept giving me an internal error. Maybe because the extracting of lokiwiz automatically would open the program when i downloaded in mozilla firefox? is this IE use only maybe?
So anyhow i thot shell tool would be best to use since i couldnt unlock it. Guesss not.
I wish one of you guys lived right down the street so we could do this together or maybe i just call one of you geniouses
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hmmmm, thats the mistake.After downgrading to ipl/spl 1.xx after flashing button's 1.05,you shud have first sim/cid unlocked the phone and then flashed t-mobile 2,26 to upgrade to ipl/spl 2.xx.Then shud have upgraded to any wm6 roms,upgrading to ipl/spl 3.08 is not at all necessary for upgrading to wm6,but an option,where as,ipl/spl 2.xx is only required for wm6 upgrading.
You,instead,of getting your phone sim/cid unlocked,flashed and upgraded to 3.08,but to sim/cid unlock,its required to have 1.xx,now it won't downgrade to 1.xx with button's rom.Its very commonly observed that after upgrading to 3.08 without getting the phone sim/cid unlocked,it becomes a pain in a** to downgrade to 1.xx and unlock.Now its a catch22 situation,where it doesn't downgrade to 1.xx for unlocking and nor accepting any other rom flash,its stuck at splash screen at 3.08.
Now,the only solution is to get the phone back to its default status.Try to flash either official stock rom,button's rom,if button's don't work,try the xda_minis_launch rom or the wizard_love_rom in the bootloaders mode.You got to keep your patience and it might take several flashes with either of these roms to get through.
Good luck !!!
thank you, im going to attempt all this now, ill keep everyone posted!
ok heres the scoop...
ive tried the tmobile official rom 2.26 upgrade and the xda_minis_launch rom and the wizard_love_rom (Love rom seems to be in a foreign language and gives a error 300) in the bootloaders mode and every time it will refuse to read the usb and gives me either a 264 or 296 error with these roms. Not sure why the phone says its not connected for the above roms but will read buttons rom still saying its not connected
The only rom that seems to read for whatever reason is buttons rom and i have flashed it 5 times at least now and always tells me it works but then gets stuck in bootloader with a glass of beer and the same ipl-1.01 spl- 3.08 gsm- 01.12.10 os- 1.5.4.2
so i dont know what to do!! there must be someway to get this thing to work!
Yes ! I understand it sometimes becomes very annoying and frustrating,but you got to keep cool. believe me and I can assure you there's nothing wrong with your phone as long as it can get into bootloaders.It's just that the bootloaders have got corrupted and stuck on spl 3.08,its only spl 3.08 which is creating all the problem,untill and unless it doesn't downgrade to either spl 1.xx or 2.xx,it'll not be possible to flash any other rom.now the only way to get the bootloaders corrected is to flash any official rom to bring both ipl/spl to 1.xx or 2.xx.
ok,when you get the phone in bootloaders and connect the phone via usb,does a small usb appear at the bottom of the bootloaders screen ? forget about the activesync for a while,cuz activesync doesn't work or get connected in bootloaders.The only way to verify if the phone has established connectivity with the pc is to verify if usb appears in the bootloaders.Rather I'll suggest you to delete the partnership with pc in activesync and uncheck the option 'allow usb connections' in the Async.If its verified that usb appears and has connection in bootloaders then you are good to go and run RUU,but if there's a problem and it doesn't show in bootloaders then your usb is not establishing proper connection.In that case,either the usb cable is faulty or the mini usb port of the phone is damaged.Check and verify this.
Secondly,lets try to flash the Rom with replaced RUU like 'RomUpdateUtility_wizard_Noid', or 'newromupdateutility_wizard_noid' or 'Ruu_Mun',you can find them in the forum.Either copy and replace it with ruu in the rom or copy and past 'nk_nbf' in the rom to the folder of these RUU and try to flash in the bootloaders,but first confirm the connectivity of the phone via usb as explained above. Hope this might do the trick,lets hope so!!!
Cheers!
I had a same problem like you. Here is the solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963
not my idea. Works great. Martin
maty said:
I had a same problem like you. Here is the solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963
not my idea. Works great. Martin
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ok,was your phone CID unlocked when you did back up with sdcard using 'Mtty' program ? cuz its not possible to go through recovering back by this method if the phone is CID locked,the rom will not back up to sdcard,it'll give error.Here his phone is still Cid locked and he has upgraded to 3.08,now it won't let him downgrade to ipl/spl 1.xx to use lokiwiz02b and SIM/CID unlock his phone.
Cheers!
ok here is the problem im having now. ANY ROM i attempt to flash to in bootloaders mode or 3 colored screen WILL NOT WORK! it gives me a 264 error on any of them besides button rom. I have tried several times to upload tmobiles official rom and it tells me i have to get a newer nbf file!
I pop the battery out and wait a few seconds and then hold camera button and power, (now in bootloaders) i then plug in usb and the USB letters do show on the bottom left hand side. I also disabled allow usb connection on active sync.
i wish i understood why no other rom except buttons will flash? even muns ruu wont work, it gives me a 300 error invalid update tool!

AKU3 stuck

format is failed after a power outage in the middle of ugrading with shell tool.
made it worse bu trying to flash with tmobiles latest rom.
so now i'm stuck in boot screen with the following
Device is g3 with
IPL 3.08
SPL 3:08
GSM 02.69.11
OS 3.8.2.1
did i mention CID unlocked?
please advice
rephrase
Let me rephrase the question.
I have a friend who saw me use shell tool to upgrade my cid locked wizard.
He went home to try the same on his cid locked g3 wizard.
he had bad luck and it was interrupted mid way through so he brought me his dead wizard.(stuck on bootloader)
The only official rom i had was Tmobile's 3.08 so i flashed it to try and revive it.
it flashed and finished but still stuck on bootloader.
when i try and hard reset it says "format is failed".
button rom wont work, wizard love wont work, sd method wont work as it is cid locked.
Any ideas?
And if none, will imei-check work..
Get the official stock ROM for his Wizard, then flash it and you will get a working Wizard back.
However, if the IPL and SPL still stays at 3.08, there is possibility that IPL and SPL not downgradeable, so unlocking may not be possible.
Another thing...by CID unlocking the Wizard, there is no reason to use ShellTool while you can actually use RUU directly! Using ShellTool may lead to incomplete update!
Not yet home
Hey, the stock rom (tmobile 3.08) succesfully flashes but the wizard still doesnt boot. it gets stuck on the first screen.
Any more ideas?
BTW i'm very experimental so i'll try anything..
Hi,
Have you tried to flash the wizard with Hard-SPL or Soft-SPL.
I had the same with mine wizard (G4) but Hard-SPL worked for me.
You have a G3 so I don't no if it will work. Otherwise read this thread first post
Hope it will work.
Peter
pd2903 said:
Hi,
Have you tried to flash the wizard with Hard-SPL or Soft-SPL.
I had the same with mine wizard (G4) but Hard-SPL worked for me.
You have a G3 so I don't no if it will work. Otherwise read this thread first post
Hope it will work.
Peter
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Both solutions advised require WinCE to boot to be applied... which isn't the case here
hey
mestrini said:
Both solutions advised require WinCE to boot to be applied... which isn't the case here
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So mestrini,
What to do??
will imei-check work?
And what exactly is format is failed?
Try this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
This worked for a friend of mine. he has a G3.
Peter

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