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I have a Cingular 8125, which I hadn't used for a while (got a Trinity
I am trying to set it up for my wife, so I attempted to unlock it and upgrade to WM6. It is a G3 (it had 2.26). I had upgraded it several times before. but was never able to bring it down to 1.xx in order to unlock it.
So, I started trying to downgrade it, but basically, every time it entered bootloader, it seemed to lose connection and it just timed out on the PC, without ever going to the update bar on the bootloader screen.
I ran IPL_SPL_3.08, and it upgraded fine. But still no go on downgrading.
Finally, I ran Shelltool (bug fixed) and managed to flash to OS 1.5.4.2. But, after the hard reset, it just stays on the blue Cingular screen (showing IPL 3.08; SPL 3.08; GSM 02.47.11; OS 1.5.4.2.)
I have tried flashing again with an original Cingular WWE ROM (RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe), with the 1.5.4.2 ROM, even with a WM6 ROM (again, through Shelltool.) I have placed it in a powered cradle, have tried both Shelltool and RUU flashes, both while in the blue Cingular screen, and while in Bootloader mode. I have disconnected and reconnected each time, and rebooted many times (both the Wizard and the PC.) I have hard-reset. I have also tried both with USB selected and unselected in Activesync.
The Shelltool seems to freeze. The official RUU gives "ERROR [296]: UPGRADE ONLY. The NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get another NBF file." Or, alternately, it gives "ERROR [264]: CONNECTION."
Any ideas if this is repairable?
(Or should I cry (or take a hammer to the Wizard:-((
Mine is a 2.25 and it's a G4.. Isnt 2.26 a G4?
I think it was 2.26 (it may have been something like 2.27....), but it definitely didn't have the .000 at the end. I thought that the Wizards without the .000 were G3. Did I screw up?
Madcap180 said:
Mine is a 2.25 and it's a G4.. Isnt 2.26 a G4?
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2.25.0001 or 2.26.0001 would be a G4
2.25 or 2.26 would be a G3
MacGuy2006 said:
I have a Cingular 8125, which I hadn't used for a while (got a Trinity
I am trying to set it up for my wife, so I attempted to unlock it and upgrade to WM6. It is a G3 (it had 2.26). I had upgraded it several times before. but was never able to bring it down to 1.xx in order to unlock it.
So, I started trying to downgrade it, but basically, every time it entered bootloader, it seemed to lose connection and it just timed out on the PC, without ever going to the update bar on the bootloader screen.
I ran IPL_SPL_3.08, and it upgraded fine. But still no go on downgrading.
Finally, I ran Shelltool (bug fixed) and managed to flash to OS 1.5.4.2. But, after the hard reset, it just stays on the blue Cingular screen (showing IPL 3.08; SPL 3.08; GSM 02.47.11; OS 1.5.4.2.)
I have tried flashing again with an original Cingular WWE ROM (RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe), with the 1.5.4.2 ROM, even with a WM6 ROM (again, through Shelltool.) I have placed it in a powered cradle, have tried both Shelltool and RUU flashes, both while in the blue Cingular screen, and while in Bootloader mode. I have disconnected and reconnected each time, and rebooted many times (both the Wizard and the PC.) I have hard-reset. I have also tried both with USB selected and unselected in Activesync.
The Shelltool seems to freeze. The official RUU gives "ERROR [296]: UPGRADE ONLY. The NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get another NBF file." Or, alternately, it gives "ERROR [264]: CONNECTION."
Any ideas if this is repairable?
(Or should I cry (or take a hammer to the Wizard:-((
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I thought I read somewhere that IPL/SPL 3.08 was a bad convert from a Charmer? If this is true and the Charmer bootloaders are different than the Wizard bootloaders then you may have put yourself in a bind.
The fact that you can still get past bootloader is promising even though the phone doesn't finish booting.
Try flashing from the bootloader (tricolor IPL/SPL screen with USB in the corner)
Thanks. I've been trying to flash in both bootloader or "blue" screen, but no go so far. I just tried the official Cingular .nbf through shelltool: it spent about 30 minutes (in bootloader,) then it stopped responding. It's been doing this forever now.
Any other options left?
MacGuy2006 said:
Thanks. I've been trying to flash in both bootloader or "blue" screen, but no go so far. I just tried the official Cingular .nbf through shelltool: it spent about 30 minutes (in bootloader,) then it stopped responding. It's been doing this forever now.
Any other options left?
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You CAN'T use shelltool in boot loader mode! it needs the OS and the TRUFFS to read and write to the phone.
Any phone that doesn't go past the boot loader must be fixed with mtty, RUU or SD card...
Thanks for the info. I've been reading about mmty and just downloaded it. But I only have a 4GB card handy (from my Trinity.) I might be able to find my old 2GB one at home.
Edit: Well, this is what I just found: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308772&highlight=mtty+wizard
It seems that the IPL_SPL 3.08 might be a real problem. I'll try the card flash, but based on the above thread, I am not holding my breath.
If anyone has a suggestion or a solution, please let me know.
Thanks!
BTW, if the problem is indeed with the IPL_SPL 3.08, then perhaps the suggestion that we upgrade to it (in red) here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435 should be removed, so that we don't get more expensive bricks.
Just to clear up the question about 3.08 IPL/SPL, it isn't an issue at all. It's been tested thoroughly to work well, better than 2.26.
TaurusBullba said:
Just to clear up the question about 3.08 IPL/SPL, it isn't an issue at all. It's been tested thoroughly to work well, better than 2.26.
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After I unlocked my wizard and before I try any new ROM, I always burn the latest German wizard ROM with 3.08 IPL/SPL "ruu_vario_aku3.3_3822_382120_026911_tmo_de_ger_ship". Then I downgrade the Radio ROM to Cingular 2.25.11. Then I burn my ROM of choice. I've found it works best for me. I've never had a problem with 3.08.
TaurusBullba said:
Just to clear up the question about 3.08 IPL/SPL, it isn't an issue at all. It's been tested thoroughly to work well, better than 2.26.
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What are the grounds for such a comparison? How to tell that an SPL works better than another? As far as i know the SPL is there to initialise the hardware and to apply security restrictions.
What i'd like to know is if anyone has been successful in downgrading IPL/SPL from 3.xx to 2.xx as itsme once said that there was a security in newer SPL's preventing downgrading (i must look for it...)
cheers
O.K., so maybe it's not 3.08, but something has sure gone bad.
I am trying to use mtty 1.1.42.538, but see only Port 1, Port 2 and USB. When I type in \\.\WSCUSBSH001 I get a message that it cannot open the \\.\WSCUSBSH001 port.
I tried resetting as described in message #7 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=264652&highlight=mtty1.42, but nothing happened.
I also tried choosing USB, then typed in r2sd all and again, nothing happened - I just get CMD> again....
So, can anyone think of anything else I can do, or should I just drop it from the 4th floor?
What IPL/SPL values you have at this moment?
mestrini said:
What IPL/SPL values you have at this moment?
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Both ar 3.08, and I have the feeling that this is why I cannot flash the official Cingular ROM over what I have now. Which makes me wonder: is there an official Wizard ROM file combined with the IPL/SPL 3.08? This may at leas allow me to flash.
MacGuy2006 said:
Both ar 3.08, and I have the feeling that this is why I cannot flash the official Cingular ROM over what I have now. Which makes me wonder: is there an official Wizard ROM file combined with the IPL/SPL 3.08? This may at leas allow me to flash.
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I had also upgraded my IPL/SPL to 3.08 -- up from the 2.25 on the newest Cingular ROM.
Anytime I've flashed to a WM6 ROM, I've been able to downgrade to the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM -- which changes the IPL/SPL to 2.26 -- with no problems before upgrading to a WM6 ROM. After flashing the WM6, I then go back in and upgrade the IPL/SPL once again to 3.08. It's not failed me yet.
O.K., I've spent the weekend screwing around with this:
If I run any of the original 2.xx ROMs, I get "you need an updated utility" message and then the utility goes to the "Exit" screen. (I am assuming this is because of the 3.08 IPL/SPL.)
mtty tells me I don't have permissions when I tried to load the ROM on a SD card (remember, the 8125 is not SuperCD-ed.). It also does nothing when I type "set 14 0" or "task 28."
But, I found that I can run the XDA Mobile 6 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310954) and it actually starts updating, but when it gets to 99%, the bar on the 8125 turns red and after a while the Update Utility tells me that the Wizard is not connected anymore.
Got very excited when I tried mattk_r's InGeNeTiCs' ROM(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311144): it started updating, went all the way to 100%, at which point the bar on the 8125 did turn red, however after a period of time the utility gave me the "Congratulations" message and told me I've successfully upgraded. But then, the 8125 reboots, and unfortunately, it still hangs on the boot screen, and it still gives the OS as 1.5.4.2. Have tried a number of times, always the same:-(
Oh, I tried upgrading the Radio only, and it worked: I was able to upgrade to 02.61.11.
So, does it seem like there is hope, and can anyone think of what else I can do?
MacGuy2006 said:
O.K., I've spent the weekend screwing around with this:
If I run any of the original 2.xx ROMs, I get "you need an updated utility" message and then the utility goes to the "Exit" screen. (I am assuming this is because of the 3.08 IPL/SPL.)
mtty tells me I don't have permissions when I tried to load the ROM on a SD card (remember, the 8125 is not SuperCD-ed.). It also does nothing when I type "set 14 0" or "task 28."
But, I found that I can run the XDA Mobile 6 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310954) and it actually starts updating, but when it gets to 99%, the bar on the 8125 turns red and after a while the Update Utility tells me that the Wizard is not connected anymore.
Got very excited when I tried mattk_r's InGeNeTiCs' ROM(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311144): it started updating, went all the way to 100%, at which point the bar on the 8125 did turn red, however after a period of time the utility gave me the "Congratulations" message and told me I've successfully upgraded. But then, the 8125 reboots, and unfortunately, it still hangs on the boot screen, and it still gives the OS as 1.5.4.2. Have tried a number of times, always the same:-(
Oh, I tried upgrading the Radio only, and it worked: I was able to upgrade to 02.61.11.
So, does it seem like there is hope, and can anyone think of what else I can do?
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If I were you I might be talking to IMEI unlockers. Their process works from bootloader and might be able to get you CID unlocked and fix your corrupted CID area, which seems to be your major problem atm. In any case I would contact them and explain your situation and see if they think their software will unlock your phone. If so then you should be good to go once you CID is "uncorrupted" and unlocked.
one question: can You HARD RESET your device?
Do you have "format failed" message?
if so, you have 50/50 per cent for resurrection.
3.08 is not direct problem here anyway..., version is not exactly matter of problem...
(imei? now? lol)...
Thanks!
Yes, I can hard-reset fine and it claims to reformat fine.
Tx for the suggestion - I will contact IMEI (they unlocked my Trinity before the free unlockers were available
i need some serious help im desperate at this stage.
ive basically got a htc tytn ii on uk orange
i update the rom to htc standard one which sim locked it
i followed the instruction on how to get it like i got it from orange
which i believe was sucessful. but because it was still sim locked i
thought the hardspl was relocked so i ran that again which failed and ended up on the tri colour screen after which i tought it may still be hardspl locked
so i tried to flash it with the rom again it got to 17% then crashed
now my phone will only boot to the tricolour screen it wont load activesync and if i try a flash it with anyrom it either stays at 0% gets stuck or gets to 1% then the phone restarts.
ive buggered the phone up proper i need some help if there is any for this mess
when i try a rom upload it says error [294]: invalid vender id
this update utility cannot be used for your pda phoe please check your update utility
Did you install Hard SPL?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
See if you can install that and then try to reinstall your rom.
this required activesync to be green mine will respond to usb but not activesynce so i cant go any further with the hardspl unlock im stuck on the tricolour screen. and flashing will only go to 1% then restart and the message come up again.
same problem
i have the same problem and i can only get to 1% . i have tried to flash it with several roms using diferent utilities and none seem to work i used hard spl the first time when it failed. HELP PLEASE !!!!!!!
found solution
got mine working here is what i did
run mtty select usb after disabling it in activesync
press enter and you should see cmd>
type boot and when your device restarts it should start in your old rom
run hardspl again
then you need to reinstall your rom
although a word of warning my phone became sim locked after this
worked a treat many thanks it is sim locked just have to wait for the sim unlock for it now
willbyrne said:
got mine working here is what i did
run mtty select usb after disabling it in activesync
press enter and you should see cmd>
type boot and when your device restarts it should start in your old rom
run hardspl again
then you need to reinstall your rom
although a word of warning my phone became sim locked after this
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no worries
yeah no worries, i was affraid when i locked mine i might have to return it and get anothe orange version but i used some company online and got my code in about 3 days.
oh yeah you will probably need to enter the code in twice, mine said simlocked and then network locked but it was the same code
First off, anyone on this forum who has contributed anything, I am have the deepest respect for, and my favorites will get donations as soon as I have money. Ok enough a$$ kissing.
So here is my problem:
I flashed it's right's TNT 6.1 19919 after hardspling. After many problems, like pseudo-hard resetting (turning off, losing all but 6% battery, and changing the date back to what it was originally i.e. 1/27/06) while in a phone call and doing the same while using the wifi, i hard reset and still the same problems occurred. so I undid the hardspl, so now i am back to 2.25.001 in the bootloader but when i connect it to the computer (winxp) to flash the original rom (cingular 2.25) it freezes at 91%. If anyone has had this problem occur or knows the solution as to get ANY rom back on it, IT would be greatly appreciated.
Also after doing some reading I tried to flash wizard love 2.26 to it and that freezes at about 50-60%. so I am stuck and it is really annoying.
Full 8 hour charge, restart computer, different usb port. Same happens: Error 302 Update Error
Hum... maybe when you reCID locked it, you put a CID that's not for that official ROM you're trying to flash. The misbehavior of the phone is due to the ROM you had, not the CID Unlock. If I'm not mistaken, you can hardSPL it again, from bootloader. Then you can try and flash any other ROM you wish. Give my ROM (WM5SE rev5 - if your phone can handle 240MHz - or rev4) a go, after you have CID Unlocked your phone.
My phone can take up to 273 but, all the roms i flashed were g4 safe.... because the ipl spl never changed and i checked them in shell tool . it gives me a update error 302 which wizard love documentation says that the "phone needs a new rom code" which implies that it needs to be taken to cingular, and i dont think i can lie that well. how would one "accidentally" put their phone into bootloader?
theblackhandx said:
First off, anyone on this forum who has contributed anything, I am have the deepest respect for, and my favorites will get donations as soon as I have money. Ok enough a$$ kissing.
So here is my problem:
I flashed it's right's TNT 6.1 19919 after hardspling. After many problems, like pseudo-hard resetting (turning off, losing all but 6% battery, and changing the date back to what it was originally i.e. 1/27/06) while in a phone call and doing the same while using the wifi, i hard reset and still the same problems occurred. so I undid the hardspl, so now i am back to 2.25.001 in the bootloader but when i connect it to the computer (winxp) to flash the original rom (cingular 2.25) it freezes at 91%. If anyone has had this problem occur or knows the solution as to get ANY rom back on it, IT would be greatly appreciated.
Also after doing some reading I tried to flash wizard love 2.26 to it and that freezes at about 50-60%. so I am stuck and it is really annoying.
Full 8 hour charge, restart computer, different usb port. Same happens: Error 302 Update Error
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You have posted present IPL/SPL 2.25.001,is it 2.25.001 or .0001 ?
As you removed 'HardSPL',did you reflash the appropriate IPL/SPL regarding your phones official bootloader IPL/SPL...?
You shud do the 'HardSPL' again and either do the removal of HardSPL again correctly as instructed in the sticky ' How to remove HardSPL' or Flash any other Rom to recover.
Cheers!
no it was 2.25.001 just a typo. i think i will try these suggestions when i get home and i will post my findings.
I have a wizard (wiza110) running wm5 and i wanted to upgrade it. It was the first time i was trying such thing. I was following these instructions http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard%20Windows%20Mobile%206%20for%20newbies. My device is g3. My first attempt was with Button Rom, everything was fine until 99%... i think it was error 302 or something. I took off the battery and plugged it again several times but nothing came out. I had the three-colour screen.
Then I tried The Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102.exe, still nothing, lokiwiz also...
Last attempt was with wizard Love. USB appears but the ruu can't see the device and stops the process
Any ideas?
i think the device was sim-unlocked...
Flash back to the original rom, charge the battery to 100%. Make a guest connection to windows and start reading this thread from the beginning
do you have a link for the original rom? the thing is that ipl is 1.05 and spl is 2.25
aposperitis said:
do you have a link for the original rom? the thing is that ipl is 1.05 and spl is 2.25
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Based on my experience and what I've read here, I'm guessing that your original rom had ipl and spl both 2.25. When you installed the button rom, it updated the ipl but nothing else. Just a guess, but that's what happened to me the first time on my G3. I just re-flashed button rom and continued from there. You should try to find the original rom for whatever kind of phone you have (I mean, the rom from the service provider like Orange, AT&T, etc). Their latest rom might not be 2.25. For example, my phone originally came from T-Mobile. I have the T-Mobile rom that is I think 2.26. I keep it handy, but have only reflashed back to that rom once when my extended rom got messed up.
Read the link suggested above. Good stuff. It is possible to flash a phone that is stuck on the tri-color screen, but it might not work the first try.
Same thing here, just youre getting further
I have ipl and spl on 2.26 received it this way. It's G3. I've been a week looking through the forums. Trying to avoid posting here. But damn it. I can't seem to get anything right. I previously had the G1 and Juno, Flashing was a breeze. But here i feel lost.
Basically my problem is i can't get it to downgrade. upgrade. CID unlock, With neither Lokiwiz or WST. A pain. And really NO RUU runs past the 0% it reboots my phone to boot loader image and USB shows but it reads that it can't find my phone anymore. It's been charged to 100%. Deleted TEMP folder. Was guest under activesync. Changed my USB cables 10 times. It's frustrating. Please. Any suggestions??