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First shipment of the 8925 is Sep 3rd 3,200 will be shipped.

This is my first post here, but I come here all the time. But I just got some great info from AT&T. First off let me tell you, I got a 8525 about 2 months ago, and I love it, 2 weeks later I find out about the 8925 coming out. So for the last 2 months I have been doing the 30 day trial of a phone. After 30 days I trade in for a new 8525 so I can keep doing that and get the full value of the phone once the 8925 comes in. Every time I ask about the 8925, with no luck. Well today came around and its time for me to trade in again. I asked about it again and I found out great info. I know we have all seen the reports of the Sep 3rd date. But I now heard it with my own ears. This is what I am told.
First shipment of the 8925 is Sep 3rd 3,200 will be shipped in. then for the next 3 weeks 4,480, 3,200, 3,200 will be shipped into stock.
I hope this info makes you as happy as I am. Oh and I was told in her system it was the HTC 8925, she did not have it called the "tilt"

TimSykes said:
This is my first post here, but I come here all the time. But I just got some great info from AT&T. First off let me tell you, I got a 8525 about 2 months ago, and I love it, 2 weeks later I find out about the 8925 coming out. So for the last 2 months I have been doing the 30 day trial of a phone. After 30 days I trade in for a new 8525 so I can keep doing that and get the full value of the phone once the 8925 comes in. Every time I ask about the 8925, with no luck. Well today came around and its time for me to trade in again. I asked about it again and I found out great info. I know we have all seen the reports of the Sep 3rd date. But I now heard it with my own ears. This is what I am told.
First shipment of the 8925 is Sep 3rd 3,200 will be shipped in. then for the next 3 weeks 4,480, 3,200, 3,200 will be shipped into stock.
I hope this info makes you as happy as I am. Oh and I was told in her system it was the HTC 8925, she did not have it called the "tilt"
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Hmmm....I hope you are right. I don't care what they name the device as long as it is released soon 'cause the wait is killing me!

say......who did you talk to? att customer relations? or customer service? because i might call and try to digg to information myself.......and see if this info can be confirmed a second time......

Woot
Nice, I'll be purchasing one from ATT if they don't remove the front video camera and/or the price is as low as the $499 rumored.

It was someone in sales. They had no more 8525 for me to swap with. But she was able to tell me when the next shipment was in on the 27th. At that point I asked her when the 8925 would be shipped in, and thats when she told me sept the 3rd. I hope this help you get the info too.

nope nada......got nothing...the rep said he can't find any info....was talkin bout maybe it was an hp or nokia that i heard about....so obviously he has no clue or could even find any info on this information..........so i guess we'll just wait and see.....hope when the day comes its not too much of a disspointment

Incorrect Information
HTC representatives are demonstrating the AT&T 8925 to Customer Service within AT&T this week.
The Device will be called AT&T 8925, but it is still commonly referred to the Tilt.
Sadly, the device is will not be coming out on Sept 3rd. The device is however scheduled to be release by the end of September.
I just spoke with Customer Service who went up to the HTC rep in regards to the 8925, and the conversation went like this (litterly):
AT&T Rep: Can you tell me when the 8925 is due to be released?
HTC Rep: The phone does not have a solid release date, but it will be released at the end of the month
AT&T Rep: The customer I have on the phone says he has read on the itnernet that the phone will be released on Sept 3rd.
*HTC rep turns her screen around to show the AT&T Rep*
HTC Rep: That is not gonna happen. *laughs* It will be out by towards the end of September.
Well there you go, a short story of how it happened.
Sadly it was also noted that the AT&T 8925 WILL NOT have the front VGA camera for video calling.

iservealot said:
Sadly it was also noted that the AT&T 8925 WILL NOT have the front VGA camera for video calling.
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Great info, thanks for posting that.
Hmm.. so do I want the front camera to spend more and get the htc version.. or wait for ATT version. The simple answer is to wait for both to be released and compare!

I don't know, the rep I talked to read me the sipping report from her PC. Maybe they are getting a few shipments in before they release it. But its just odd the first date I was given was the 3rd. We will just have to see.

Ok here is an update. I called back and spoke with this really awesome rep.
She checked her system, and at first glance her system showed that the phone would not be released until "mid-late sept". Then she checked her warehouse inventory, and it showed they are in fact gonna receive the phones on Sept 3rd.
She was then sort of confused and figured that they might be getting the phones early, but not actually start selling them until a later date.
I for one am very excited for sept 3rd because after continuing to talk to her, they will be sending me a free 8925 (tilt) with free shipping and taxes waived. I have been having multipul problems with my phone, and she got it approved to be sent out to me as soon as the warehouse gets em.

Wow that is nice. And its great to get confirmation on what I was told.

iservealot said:
I for one am very excited for sept 3rd because after continuing to talk to her, they will be sending me a free 8925 (tilt) with free shipping and taxes waived. I have been having multipul problems with my phone, and she got it approved to be sent out to me as soon as the warehouse gets em.
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Ok wow, I officially hate you!

wow, what did you have to say to convince them of that? how much did your current phone cost? was it much less than the kaiser and they still will give you the kaiser completely free?

getting mine on sept. 3rd
yeah, i too am getting my 8925 free with no shipping cost sent out to me on the 3rd, or so im told. due to the fact that i have had 4, yes 4 8525s sent to me becfuase everytime i dl i cooked rom it shuts out my internet and cingular cant fix it, and im to lazy, they just kept sending me some. well i finally went trough about 10 differtent people and said i want the 8925 when it came in after turning down about 150 $ in credit they agreed. after they told me they would be getting them on the 3rd. yay me

I have also had about 4 8525's. They have also credited my account hundreds of dollars already because of issues with the phone, and my account in general.
hopefully this 8925 will solve all my issues!

getting my 8925 free
mr_nonshalant said:
yeah, i too am getting my 8925 free with no shipping cost sent out to me on the 3rd, or so im told. due to the fact that i have had 4, yes 4 8525s sent to me becfuase everytime i dl i cooked rom it shuts out my internet and cingular cant fix it, and im to lazy, they just kept sending me some. well i finally went trough about 10 differtent people and said i want the 8925 when it came in after turning down about 150 $ in credit they agreed. after they told me they would be getting them on the 3rd. yay me
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Friends, I have the same situation..exchanged 8525 3 times already due to bad quality, lock-ups while charging etc. etc. I called AT&T Customer Service and after many transfers to all places including data exchange department, I was told people who are posting that they'll get 8925 is NOT accurate. I am NOT trying to imply here anything at all except expressing my frustration with 8525 and AT&T. Those who succeeded..did you call any specifc tel no. spoke to any particular department? any pointers will be appreciated. The people I spoke to including their supervisors had NO clue about AT&T Tilt/8925 ..frusrtated user...

I called today. First time, no record of that unit in the computer. Second time, same thing, but at least they had heard about it. Third time... third person...no dice... didn't hear about the phone, don't know when its due in, no way to check the record of what may or may be in a warehouse.
Went down to the store, following a post made in the hermes forum. Talked to the manager. Manager was a phone geek. Knew about the phone, liked the fact that I had the kaiser home plug in on my 8525. But, he couldn't confirm or deny when the phone was going to be in, as he said it simply wasn't in his system yet. I told him some of the things that have been posted here "my friend said they are on a list for shipping when it comes out" yadda yadda yadda.
End result, some total of 3 hours later, nothing.
So, as sharmahw above said "Got any pointers or anything"?

We will now know in less than a week......one way or the other
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dwella said:
We will now know in less than a week......one way or the other
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LOL!!!! 8525 release anyone? Heck, 8125 release anyone?
(Both phones went through this same multi-month experience of "It's gonna ship on MMMM, DD!!! - I heard it from the CEO/President/Brother-In-Law/etc")
I'd love to be wrong, but I'm not holding my breath for any sort of confirmation!
Richard

I talked with 2 reps today, both in-store. One, from Cornelius, NC, said to check phonescoop.com. Yeah, I thought the same thing as you upon hearing that.
The second rep, from Charlotte, NC, knew of the phone, and was pretty much just repeating that she'd heard the 3rd of September, but only from websites, and not from anyone within the company.
Kind of funny, but, eh, wouldn't the reps be demoed the phones no shorter than a week before they hit market? Some regions may be demoing them, but the NC stores have no clue.

AT&T Kaiser Delayed until October?

I typically don't like contributing to the rumor mill, but I am looking forward to this device, and was disappointed when I got word from my AT&T Regional Sales Manager this morning that there are some delays in the release of the Kaiser.
Typically he is spot on and his information matches what has been circulated on these boards, but I hadn't seen any information like this here as of yet.
He wrote in an email to me that his conversations with their HTC rep indicated that WM6 and its functionality with some of the "custom features" of the handset. He went on to say that we should expect to see it launched in October.
I'm not exactly sure what he meant by the WM6 functionality, but I thought I'd send this out to this group to see if it can be confirmed from someone else's contacts at AT&T.

thirdowl said:
I typically don't like contributing to the rumor mill, but I am looking forward to this device, and was disappointed when I got word from my AT&T Regional Sales Manager this morning that there are some delays in the release of the Kaiser.
Typically he is spot on and his information matches what has been circulated on these boards, but I hadn't seen any information like this here as of yet.
He wrote in an email to me that his conversations with their HTC rep indicated that WM6 and its functionality with some of the "custom features" of the handset. He went on to say that we should expect to see it launched in October.
I'm not exactly sure what he meant by the WM6 functionality, but I thought I'd send this out to this group to see if it can be confirmed from someone else's contacts at AT&T.
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I still have my hopes up for 9/3 or 9/11.

grr dub post

if true it means ATT is trying to lock it down even more then they did on the 8525 being wm6 is fairly solid out of the box

Is there any possibility ATT will allow the Kaiser to view voicemails like the iPhone can? I know its an ATT specific service, not just iPhone.

I wonder if they are trying to figure out the various versions, i.e. front facing camera, no front facing camera etc.
Who knows.
I'm hoping that someone with another contact will actually prove this wrong!

The managers in the two ATT stores near me (Providence, RI) were both dour on the September release. One said that he really hadn't heard anything about September 3 and that he generally would have a couple of weeks out.

i just checked with my local AT&T store a few hours ago and the manager said that its still on for the 3rd of sept. and that the pricing will be $499 as an upgrade or 1 year contract, $399 as a new 2 yr contract, plus a $50 mail in rebate that brings it down to $349 and for some reason i seem to be eligible for another $50 off and a waived upgrade fee.
Hope this helps

Boy Genius is reporting October 1. Guess I'll just have to stick it out with the 8525 for one more month!
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/08/31/atts-got-a-busy-month-ahead-of-them/[/URL]

Tilt will cost $299 with a 2-year contract!

Well, according to this article, Tilt will cost $299 with a 2-year contract and $375 with a one-year contract. Btw, the release date mentioned in the article is October 1st.
Link: http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/09/11/tilt-duo-inferno-and-q9h-to-blow-out-atandts-october/

Finally and it is good to here that it will be reasonable priced which will make the device open to more users...thus it will be hacked sooner. We need cooked ROMs casue you know ATT will **** up the OS. First thing we will need to hack the PTT button since ATT PTT is retarded and its one more button that can be useful.

sherpa said:
Well, according to this article, Tilt will cost $299 with a 2-year contract and $375 with a one-year contract. Btw, the release date mentioned in the article is October 1st.
Link: http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/09/11/tilt-duo-inferno-and-q9h-to-blow-out-atandts-october/
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No offense but I think Ill go buy one online if I see another frickin post like this. Not directed at you sherpa, just venting a bit. I am just tired of hearing things like "supposedly" and "we heard" or "rumored" I have had a few sources tell me that it will be this month....PERIOD.... I just want to see a date posted on the site saying it will be released on.... I personally dont care if its 3 ****ing years from now as long as they can just say it rather than the cause the whole guessing game.
O.k. now that I have vented, I'll say that I hope this info is wrong on the October part because I am an impatient child and hope its right on the $299 part

swtaltima said:
No offense but I think Ill go buy one online if I see another frickin post like this. Not directed at you sherpa, just venting a bit. I am just tired of hearing things like "supposedly" and "we heard" or "rumored" I have had a few sources tell me that it will be this month....PERIOD.... I just want to see a date posted on the site saying it will be released on.... I personally dont care if its 3 ****ing years from now as long as they can just say it rather than the cause the whole guessing game.
O.k. now that I have vented, I'll say that I hope this info is wrong on the October part because I am an impatient child and hope its right on the $299 part
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Dude, I feel the same way too. I get frustrated hearing all these rumor dates but at the same time get excited. Just like you, I would rather hear a firm date from AT&T (be it three years from now) but it would at least make me constantly visiting different sites all the time. Now, I also hope info posted on the link above is wrong (the date part, that is) and hope the date is something earlier than that.

wpbear said:
Finally and it is good to here that it will be reasonable priced which will make the device open to more users...thus it will be hacked sooner. We need cooked ROMs casue you know ATT will **** up the OS. First thing we will need to hack the PTT button since ATT PTT is retarded and its one more button that can be useful.
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I dunno wp...At 299...something has to be missing..and it's gotta be more then the video call camera...why would the Tilt with more features then the 8525 cost less??? I'm very leery about this...btw wp..haven't seen u on HOFO in a while..

well after seeing another date come and go that it was suppost to go live on I just went ahead and ordered mine online. Better to have it then have to deal with the waiting and then if they end up screwing it hard well...

HTCFAN0923 said:
I dunno wp...At 299...something has to be missing..and it's gotta be more then the video call camera...why would the Tilt with more features then the 8525 cost less??? I'm very leery about this...btw wp..haven't seen u on HOFO in a while..
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The low price can be justified because of iPhone's price slashes! AT&T is thinking of the whole market and not just of us hardcore users. Majority of the market will compare iPhone and Tilt side-by-side, and with iPhone's bigger screen, brand recognition, built-in memory, and popularity, people will go for the iPhone. So, if AT&T prices both reasonably, Tilt will sell well.

HTCFAN0923 said:
I dunno wp...At 299...something has to be missing..and it's gotta be more then the video call camera...why would the Tilt with more features then the 8525 cost less??? I'm very leery about this...btw wp..haven't seen u on HOFO in a while..
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my guess is cuz they're going up against the iphone's price point

HTCFAN0923 said:
I dunno wp...At 299...something has to be missing..and it's gotta be more then the video call camera...why would the Tilt with more features then the 8525 cost less??? I'm very leery about this...btw wp..haven't seen u on HOFO in a while..
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I think the front camera and the Tom-Tom Software will be removed and thats all. I think GPS will work but you have to use TeleNav, free google maps, live search or buy your own Tom-Tom. My guess as a geek with no insider info....
I got banned for flaming the asshole 14 year old Tito.
I created a cab file for the Blackjack to auto install overclocking and it works but he was the only one to have a problem. Two forums I posted the cab and he was the only one to need a HR. He *****ed that he lost all his contacts and they were so important. I flamed him cause he tried to blame me for his error and for him not backing up his device. What the **** is so important in contacts that 14 year old has. Anyway I flamed, got banned and told HOFO to **** off. I still read over there and can not stand the stupidity that runs rampant on that bored. Change the name on hofo to "here's your sign" (Redneck Comedy)

Either AT&T has been court ordered to donate to charity, or they have severely crippled the Kaiser. I refuse to believe that $299 price point...

Poetique said:
Either AT&T has been court ordered to donate to charity, or they have severely crippled the Kaiser. I refuse to believe that $299 price point...
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I am very surprised, I would of thought $399 and they drop the 8525 to $249. But I like charity

yea that 299 price point does not seem correct being the 8525 cost more. Also the 8925 is suppost to be a flagship type phone for them for highend users and lower end peps then have the Icrap, or the pantach 810 also the blackjack still and a handfull of other pda type phones.

No way it's 299.
and 200 in amazon.com ???
8525's retail price is 599 from att. With a 2 year contract it's 450, which after rebates and everything else it comes down to 350.
the HTC Tytn II is 800 on mobileplanet.com and 850 on htcphonestore.com.
If the carrier branded ones were 300$ cheaper (which is never the case, carrier branded phones are usually 100-150 cheaper than htc branded ones) then ATT's would be 500.
If that was the price everybody would buy one signing up for a 2 year contract and cancel their contract after a month.
Ending up spending 375 or 475 (which is still better than 800)
I'm guessing the retail price is probably going to be around 650-750 and the price with a 2 year contract be around 500-600.

I think everyone is failing to see the point... and most of you are right, its probably not $299 up front... i would bet though that its 299 AFTER rebate....
wpbear.. its always good to be banned from somewhere... even i was banned from the cingular forums for speaking out about their poor moderation or lack there of...

shogunmark said:
wpbear.. its always good to be banned from somewhere... even i was banned from the cingular forums for speaking out about their poor moderation or lack there of...
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Is that "street cred" like a rapper needs to sell albums. At least I only have to get banned and not shot like a rapper.

wpbear said:
Is that "street cred" like a rapper needs to sell albums. At least I only have to get banned and not shot like a rapper.
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[email protected], guess i will put my shiney gun away...

shogunmark said:
[email protected], guess i will put my shiney gun away...
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Man.... we didnt need to hear about how you polish your gun....

wpbear said:
I think the front camera and the Tom-Tom Software will be removed and thats all. I think GPS will work but you have to use TeleNav, free google maps, live search or buy your own Tom-Tom. My guess as a geek with no insider info....
I got banned for flaming the asshole 14 year old Tito.
I created a cab file for the Blackjack to auto install overclocking and it works but he was the only one to have a problem. Two forums I posted the cab and he was the only one to need a HR. He *****ed that he lost all his contacts and they were so important. I flamed him cause he tried to blame me for his error and for him not backing up his device. What the **** is so important in contacts that 14 year old has. Anyway I flamed, got banned and told HOFO to **** off. I still read over there and can not stand the stupidity that runs rampant on that bored. Change the name on hofo to "here's your sign" (Redneck Comedy)
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I agree that Tito kid is so annoying! He seems like a rich little brat and says LOL too much!

killershot20 said:
No way it's 299.
and 200 in amazon.com ???
8525's retail price is 599 from att. With a 2 year contract it's 450, which after rebates and everything else it comes down to 350.
the HTC Tytn II is 800 on mobileplanet.com and 850 on htcphonestore.com.
If the carrier branded ones were 300$ cheaper (which is never the case, carrier branded phones are usually 100-150 cheaper than htc branded ones) then ATT's would be 500.
If that was the price everybody would buy one signing up for a 2 year contract and cancel their contract after a month.
Ending up spending 375 or 475 (which is still better than 800)
I'm guessing the retail price is probably going to be around 650-750 and the price with a 2 year contract be around 500-600.
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Keep in mind that AT&T likely sees these devices as big recurring revenue streams - particularly text messaging, data usage, and their pay GPS service. These phones are likely to be sold to tech-savvy customers who use these features extensively. As a result they may even sell these devices at a loss.....

if at&t price does indeed end up being $299, is there any possibility of it driving the unlocked price down?

ATT Kaiser pricing and release update

This was posted in the $299 thread but its at the way back so I thought I would create a thread so people would have an easier time finding it. Apparently the guys at howard forums don't know jack.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/09/14/att-tilt-drops-some-knowledge-on-us/
$ 349 with 2 year sign up and data (though I imagine corp will be much cheaper)
release date is listed as late september in the docs.

Am I blind or do they not even list its GPS on there features there?

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Am I blind or do they not even list its GPS on there features there?
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Thats what I said, however they do mention it in the top paragraph. To be honest Ill still get it even if it doesn't have built in. All I do is put an at&t logo on my punching bag at home to take out my aggression LOL.

oh well I ordered the HTC one lol. Not a bad price on this one tho even without a contract its nice at 549.

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oh well I ordered the HTC one lol. Not a bad price on this one tho even without a contract its nice at 549.
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$549? I thought they were like $800?

I was saying the att one is not a bad price at 549. The htc unlocked one I got was 789.

man atnt is wack!! no front-facing camera??

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man atnt is wack!! no front-facing camera??
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They dont have any video calling so whats the point of having an extra low-quality camera?

Wow, $800 HTC Kaiser it is! Screw that ugly nerfed ATT one.

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They dont have any video calling so whats the point of having an extra low-quality camera?
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they just launched video calling.

I posted this over at Howard Forums...
There's an online vendor who sells the Kaiser who is offering them to me at $700 for a group buy. If anyone is in IL and is interested, lemme know. The only reason I want to limit it to people in IL is I can drive and meet them someplace so there's no payment/shipping issues. I'm not a reseller and I don't want to be a reseller. I'm just trying to get this as cheap as possible.
-Mc

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I posted this over at Howard Forums...
There's an online vendor who sells the Kaiser who is offering them to me at $700 for a group buy. If anyone is in IL and is interested, lemme know. The only reason I want to limit it to people in IL is I can drive and meet them someplace so there's no payment/shipping issues. I'm not a reseller and I don't want to be a reseller. I'm just trying to get this as cheap as possible.
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I dont think $700 is that cheap though. $600 maybe, I am curious to see what "group" means and will you be able to meet the minimum order in just IL.

I have to buy 5 to get that price. I have Me and 2 buddies from work. So technically I only need 2 more. Figured I'd offer it to the forum.
They are selling them out within days of getting them in stock at 850 so they aren't making much on these at 700. I have just bought a LOT of phones from them and directed a lot of sales their way.
Once AT&T's starts selling, I would think that prices will drop a little but I don't think we'll ever see an online vendor dip below the $700 mark. MMB is $749 which is still the lowest I've seen and he's the most reliable seller I've ever dealt with.
-Mc
Correction: I just checked his website and he raised the price to $779.

McHale said:
I have to buy 5 to get that price. I have Me and 2 buddies from work. So technically I only need 2 more. Figured I'd offer it to the forum.
They are selling them out within days of getting them in stock at 850 so they aren't making much on these at 700. I have just bought a LOT of phones from them and directed a lot of sales their way.
Once AT&T's starts selling, I would think that prices will drop a little but I don't think we'll ever see an online vendor dip below the $700 mark. MMB is $749 which is still the lowest I've seen and he's the most reliable seller I've ever dealt with.
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Correction: I just checked his website and he raised the price to $779.
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5 is a good deal, but at $700 that is too much and all you get is the front camera. ATT for $400 and no front camera is MUCH easier to swallow.

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5 is a good deal, but at $700 that is too much and all you get is the front camera. ATT for $400 and no front camera is MUCH easier to swallow.
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I agree. I just don't want to wait forever for them to release it. I've been holding off because I wanted to see what AT&T did to it. I hate crippled devices. I'm also reluctant to put the 8925 on my account as it could get me kicked off my data plan. A generic device isn't as automated for the system to verify against your plan.
-Mc

Called ATT store by me and asked when they would have the tilt in stock, the guy put me on hold for 2 minutes and told me oct 1st. Surprised to hear he even knew about it and even more surprised to have a date they would have it in store.

Yup me too. i just went to the att store and asked them this afternoon and she said the same thing in october. color will remain the same and as already reported no front camera and so on.........

Some people are claiming that ATT in Manhattan and most of the New York city was selling the 8925 today.

why would u want to watch who u are talking to. if anything u cant lie to the wife when she wants to see where u are if she doesnt believe u .....

McHale said:
I agree. I just don't want to wait forever for them to release it. I've been holding off because I wanted to see what AT&T did to it. I hate crippled devices. I'm also reluctant to put the 8925 on my account as it could get me kicked off my data plan. A generic device isn't as automated for the system to verify against your plan.
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What do you mean by getting kicked off your data plan? i have been using the media max bundle for over a year with my treo and my 8525 with no problems. i have never paid the outrageous 60 for a pda data plan.
could you please clarify?
thanks

so who's switching to the new iphone in a month?

New iphone??
Seems like 3G iphone is ready for delivery. I wonder if it has GPS as well. That could very well make it something to consider as an alternative to the Kaiser... I love my Kaiser, but my wife has an iphone and it does do certain things better. With Jailbreak, there are plenty of cool apps too. I even found a voice command app. Pretty much fill most of the gaps...

but it still doesnt have the hardware qwerty keyboard for me and i'm not a iphone fanboy...just me though

I'll jump ship to the iphone if they update their browser to support flash. i'm still disappointed that after all this time (deepfish, opera 9.5 beta) their isnt a comparable browser out there for windows mobile. Opera mini is really good, but not as good as it could get

Steve Jobs is going to have a press conference on monday 6/9 (which is today for some users). I hear that at&t were able to get him to commit to release the new iphone at $199.99 w/2 year contract.

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Steve Jobs is going to have a press conference on monday 6/9 (which is today for some users). I hear that at&t were able to get him to commit to release the new iphone at $199.99 w/2 year contract.
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If that's true...I will certainly buy one for that price...for $200 you can't beat that.

AllTheWay said:
If that's true...I will certainly buy one for that price...for $200 you can't beat that.
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inside info suggest that the device will start below current two year contract price or significantly less I received information that the device would be between 199.99-299.99. We will see in about 12 hrs if Jobs mentions pricing.

redbandana said:
Steve Jobs is going to have a press conference on monday 6/9 (which is today for some users). I hear that at&t were able to get him to commit to release the new iphone at $199.99 w/2 year contract.
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Vodacom which has the largest user base in South Africa has been granted the distribution rights for the Iphone. Vodacom is 50% owned by Vodafone and 50% by Telkom, the local fixed line operator.
We will be getting the gereration 2 version, but apart from it's 3G capabilities we will have to wait for the announcement today. Shipping will apparently start immediately.
The only down side here is that we do not have a Itunes Store so we cannot use that side of it's functionality.

basilrsa said:
Vodacom which has the largest user base in South Africa has been granted the distribution rights for the Iphone. Vodacom is 50% owned by Vodafone and 50% by Telkom, the local fixed line operator.
We will be getting the gereration 2 version, but apart from it's 3G capabilities we will have to wait for the announcement today. Shipping will apparently start immediately.
The only down side here is that we do not have a Itunes Store so we cannot use that side of it's functionality.
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Howzit basilrsa,
Nice to know that there are other South Africans here!!!
I am not an iPhoney fan anyway, so I will wait for the TyTN III or the SE Xperia X1 maybe.
In the meantime my TyTN II ROCKS!!!
Again, good to meet you boet!!!
Regards,
MAC

WWDC starts at 10 AM PDT, we will get the final specifications then but sites like engadget say:
- It will be 3G (a given, any phone is nowadays)
- But it will not have a front-facing camera for videoconferencing (it seems that it's not a known thing in USA, so if USA does not want it, Apple does not include it)
- It will have GPS receiver (nothing surprising, adding GPS to a phone is only $5)
- No hardware keyboard, typing with finger on a 2.8" screen does not convince me
- As always, closed system, very vendor-centric, very few applications you can run there.

I thought they moved to an open source setup.

I know this is a dumb question, but I rather ask then not know at all. Will the 3G IPhone be able to flash the Window 6.1 instead of there OS. I ask because I don't know if it was a Hoax or if it was for real.......I saw a Iphone that had the WM6 on it. This was a while ago that I saw it............
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I looked more closely, it's not only a hoax it is a fake Iphone...........I'm sorry for this waste of space I just used up..

3g Iphone....
So 199 out July 11th... think it will be unlocked by then? If so might need to try it out, even though I hate apple with a passion.

Just announced... 3G iPhone... For those who care, Engadget link.

I'm thinking I'm going to try out that new iphone. If it sucks and I don't like it, I'm only out $200 and then I can most likely sell it on ebay for more than i paid...haha.

is it 200 with a new contract or without?

i'd suspcect with
as apple cant get their cut of each mb downloaded if iphone3gs are sold without a contract

Personally I still cringe inside regarding the Iphone. My next phone will be either a X1, HTC Touch Diamond Pro, or the Nokia N96 (can't go wrong with an internal 16GB + SD slot for additional memory + accelatometer(sp?). Variety and change is always good though.

I'm sad that it still uses the same lame camera

I kinda wanted an iPhone but only if it had GPS...the new one does....hmmmm....let's see!!!

NotATreoFan said:
Just announced... 3G iPhone... For those who care, Engadget link.
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Also you can check out the official website.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/