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GPS without 3G/edge?

i bought a tilt yesterday and it is my first smartphone. I already flashed it to Dutty's v1.1. With my plan i rely on wifi so i didnt get any data plan.
Without 3g, edge, gprs how can i get GPS to work with my TILT that doesnt cost money?
Anyone want to help a noobout?? If you could teach me some stuff PM!!!

GPS does not cost money because it doesn't uses GPRS/EDGES etc - unless you install and run QuickGPS (or similar). GPS is only receiving freely available satellite info
QuickGPS is a service that helps the GPS unit get its first fix quicker and this uses the internet and hence GPRS/EDGE - but it is optional, so if you are prepared to wait a minute of two to get a good GPS fix, then GPS will not cost you a penny.

how do you get the free gps though?

Could you elaborate a bit? What do you mean by "how do you get the free gps though?". Because as Weasel said, GPS IS Free. Do you mean how do you get free software (i.e. TOMTOM)?

unk3 said:
how do you get the free gps though?
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You already have it, in form of your GPS receiver in your device. If you are wondering how you can get programs/maps to run your GPS with, well there is really just one option for you:
Buy some software! The market is flooded with GPS software, to name a few:
TomTom
iGo
Garmin XT
Destinator
MioMap
and so on...
If you had a data plan, you could use Google Maps in combination with your GPS (google maps is free).
Alternatively, if you are more about using your GPS functionality for hiking, off-road travel,... then I recommend:
GPSTuner 5.2 (excellent software for off-road)
Track-Me (You get this in the Kaiser > Kaiser forum. Great piece of software, and so far it's free)
Either way, you'll need software to make use of the hardware.
Hope this helps a bit.
H.

A good free option would be MGMaps, which uses stored maps and doesn't need to transfer data (however it can do it if you wish).

i guess what im trying to say is, Where can i download "MAPs" or the software that has maps for free.
I tried using googlemaps, but i can only use it when im in a wifi area lol

gps

ok heres a total newbi question i have searched.
what is the best gps receiver for my tilt. i dont want to have to be online all the time to get signals.

Your tilt has an Internal GPS Receiver?

streetknight said:
ok heres a total newbi question i have searched.
what is the best gps receiver for my tilt. i dont want to have to be online all the time to get signals.
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I think what you mean is what is the best gps software, as the TyTN II/Tilt/P4550 comes with built in gps but no software.
I use TomTom with QuickGPS and this works great for me. You don't have to be online all the time. QuickGPS merely downloads the satellite info which lasts 6 days and Tomom does the rest.
Hope this helps.

yes sorry thats what i ment, i was thinking faster the i could type. a friend emailed me this software anyone try it,http://gpsvp.garminmapsearch.com/ its free and uses google maps.

I use TomTom which works great.
As for QuickGPS. This downloads Sattelite data as MACjam said. It will download via your data plan if not conected to a PC, or via your PC's internet connection when connected via Activsync. I use the Activesync method so I don't have any unknown data sessions open.

How to use the GPS built in ?

I just bought a Htc 8925 and i heard that it has a gps built in the phone. but i could not figure it out how to use the gps without paying the monthly fees. So please let me know any options that i could do to make my phone work like a gps or at lease help me to get where i want to go. thank you very much

GPS Programs
Hello Shadowluan,
This is a problem I once had too, and I found that you only have to subscribe to programs like telenav or pay GPS programs like tom tom. The two standard yet excellent free gps applications I use are Windows Live Search http://livesearchmobile.com/windows_mobile.htm, and Google Maps http://www.google.com/mobile/default/maps/index.html. However, the free programs do not do everything a good pricey GPS program will do. However, you should use quick GPS under programs > tools before connecting, as it can greatly reduce the time it takes to connect to the satellites. Hope I've helped,
Dave

Download google maps for pocket pc. When it's open check off use gps.

hi, i have google maps already, but whenever i use it, it says i have to have a data connection. if i check off use gps like you said, how can i use google maps to show the direction? thank you very much

Can I use google maps or windows live search to find the direction i want without data connection or Wifi or any internet stuff. because i think htc 8925 has gps built in right? thanks

GPS Usage
Hello Shadowluan,
Windows live search can show direction once it has a satellite connection established and an active internet connection. However, as far as I know, there is no free GPS program that can show maps without an internet connection over At&t or wifi or some other internet connection. Having maps installed on the device I believe is only a feature of the pricey programs. Hope I've helped,
Dave

shadowluan said:
Can I use google maps or windows live search to find the direction i want without data connection or Wifi or any internet stuff. because i think htc 8925 has gps built in right? thanks
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The HTC 8925 HAS GPS built in, all it has is a device that sends your phone its Lat/Long Coordinates. You need a piece of software that can take that information and feed it into a map.
Google Maps and Windows Live, store their maps on a server and therefore require a data connection.
Other Programs put the maps on your Device, TomTom, iGo 2008, but these cost money.
Make your choice. Buy the Nav Program or pay the Data Charge.

GPS issue on AT&T Tilt [Please Help]

I have Tom Tom on my device and it was working great until recently when i blocked data on my account (I read somewhere here GPS doesn't use data) so now the GPS tracking doesn't work anymore. Is there a way to fix it or do i have to go put my data back on (and does GPS use alot of data so i have to purchase a plan?).
unlocked AT*T Tilt on Fido network

Now I don't know loads about GPS, but I do know that Assisted GPS (AGPS) uses data, and that helps you get a GPS fix by using pre-calculated information on a remote server. Though you are not using data to download maps if you are using Tom Tom, your GPS might have been using AGPS to speed up the time it takes for the GPS to locate you. As I mentioned though, I'm not super knowledgeable about GPS, so I might not be right. This is just a theory though.
Dave

Tom Tom use does not require a data plan for operation.
The tilt has a built in GPS chip so it does not require assistance (data plan) to find your location like some other phones.
However if you use any of the features in Tom Tom that require an internet connection like Tom Tom traffic, you will need an internet connection (data plan).
TW,

Tiger Woods is correct (I just wanted to say that like I actualyl know TIger Woods)... But seriously...
Tom Tom and a few otehr programs do not require you to use aq data plan as mentioned.. These programs store their maps on your device (well, usually the microSD card)... The TomTom US map is nearly 1 gb... The advantage with this type of program is that you do not need to be within cellular range for it to work.. and it doesn;t use data for map info... The bad pat is you have to have a 1gb map sitting there takign up room on your card...
Other GPS programs like MS Live Search, Google, and many others stream in the map info from your data plan via cell tower... The GPS part itself doesn;t need the data plan, but the programs that operate this way do... You could be using "A-GPS"... It stands for Assisted GPS and is called that because the towers stream the GPS location that they are and assists your phone in figuring outs its location... Luckily the Tilt offers both A-GPS and "True"-GPS... so you can use it either way...
I would suggest buying a copy of TomTom and using that as it is great.. uses the true GPS.. and if you have a 2gb or higher microSD card you should be fine.. I use an 8gb myself and have tons of software installed on it, music, movies, tomtom, and more...
Plus I have also found that I can use ORB on my phone using pIE and stream full screen video or music from my computer (if you are in a wifi hot-spot)...
I hope I was helpful.... and took some of the pressure off of Tiger Woods helping you.. that guy neeeds to concentrate on his golf game...

On a trip back from vegas I was able to leave my phone on airplane mode and use gpstoday to watch our speed.

Disable AGPS (Assisted GPS) and you will be fine. If you dont know how than use the built-in search to find a tool to disable it.

just use wifi to update the info needed to speed up gps

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just use wifi to update the info needed to speed up gps
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correct, before using tomtom, you should:
1) update quickgps and/or quickposition if you have them
2) open gps with gpstest or htc_gps_tool (However if you are using htc_gps_tool you must leave it open)
3) open tomtom (w/assisted gps turned off of course)
I usually have zero issues now finding a satellite within a few seconds.

I have Tom-Tom. A fast lock comes from the data plan and since you have it off, you go solely on the GPS driver AT&T provides. I think your issue is not that the GPS is not working, but the GPS is taking forever to get a lock. When I have the Stock crapy AT&T rom installed and turn data off; it takes 10 to 15+ minutes to get a lock (same goes for 3 of my friends here in southern California USA). I have no idea why AT&T screwed this up; I think the change was to help battery life. So to fix this, I have started by using cooked ROMs, and finally use my own cooked ROMs. With my current Rom I get a REAL GPS lock in less than 2 minutes. Also I have found -G-'s DK 10 Final rom also has an extremely fast GPS lock. And Hyper Dragon is also somewhat fast 3-4 minutes. Have you tried a different Rom?

Thinking about upgrading to a tilt, but questions

Im sure this will be easy for you guys. I have a 8125 now with live search on it. My question is if I upgrade to the tilt, is there a way I can use the gps without being charged? I would really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance

a gps don't use the phone it get signals from satellites
so it don't cost anything
but of cause if you use gmaps for navigation it will cost
but if you use tomtom or garmin program and maps you
don't even need a sim card in the phone

The Wizard is cool, but the Tilt...
Hi there,
I use Google Maps...if you pay your provider for internet access (like PDA Connect or MediaNet Unlimited...search on those if you don't know the truth!) then it won't cost you anything more.
There is a clause in the Google Maps program that says not to use it while moving, and I'm still unclear myself as to the exact reasons why, so at least be aware when you are doing something you're 'not supposed to' do...but it works just fine, is EASY to use, has broad general search capabilities, incorporates their Satellite View and practically real-time Traffic info.
If you do NOT pay for internet access (although I strongly suggest taking advantage of the 3G on the Tilt) you can use a 3rd party app like TomTom, Garmin and many others.
I also have DeLorme's Street Atlas 2007, but it does not support the GPS built into the Tilt, I have an external BT GPS for that.
The latest version of Street Atlas has...I believe...addressed that issue and should work fine.
And there are a TON of other GPS programs out there that have many subtle differences to suit whatever your needs are...search the Kaiser > Software Forum and you'll find people who love and hate almost every one of them available. Installing most of them on the SD is more efficient, but some are small enough to put in without one.
The Tilt also has Quick GPS that, when updated regularly, speeds up the satellite acquisition time for the GPS effectively...I usually get a lock within 10-15 seconds, but it does take longer on occasion. Quick GPS downloads info from the Net, so you would need access to utilize that function.
I too had a Wizard before the Tilt...and I liked it alot...but the 3G, the GPS, the 3MP Camera...and THIS FORUM!...have taken me to a point where I LOVE my Tilt, and...although I can 'upgrade' now to a Fuze...I don't think I can get a better phone without going outside my Provider Dealer (AT&T thru Hawk Electronics).
Search the Kaiser Forum for GPS, look specifically in the Software section and I think you'll find more than enough info to help you make your decision.
If you do make the switch, I'd keep the Wizard and start playing with Cooked ROMs and Software so you can get acquainted with the process. What you can do with the Tilt on this Forum is only limited by the time these guys have to tweak.
For what it may or may not be worth, my opinion is...get the Tilt!

Thanks guys, I plan on getting it and I have spb 3 so ill throw it on there right away